Tuesday, February 24, 2009

Thomas Sowell on Sarah Palin and Whittaker Chambers; UPDATE: The Reaction



The great Thomas Sowell has penned a beautiful and thought-provoking article on Gov. Palin titled "Not One of Us." I will post it in full because it should not be excerpted. It must be read in its entirety:

If Barack Obama has been the most remarkable phenomenon of the recent political scene, Sarah Palin must be second. The emotional responses to each-- especially by the media and the intelligentsia -- go beyond anything that can be explained by the usual political differences of opinion on issues of the day.

That liberals would be thrilled by another liberal is not surprising. But there are conservative Republicans who voted for Barack Obama, and other conservatives who may not have voted for him, but who are quick to see in various pragmatic moves of his since taking office an indication that he is not an extremist.

Anyone familiar with history knows that Hitler and Stalin were pragmatic. After years of denouncing each other, they signed the Nazi-Soviet pact under which they became allies for a couple of years before going to war against one another.

Pragmatism tells you nothing about extremism. But the conservative intellectuals who seize upon President Obama's pragmatism to give him the benefit of the doubt are obviously bending over backward for some reason.

With Governor Palin, it is just the opposite. The conservative intelligentsia who react against her have remarkably little to say that will stand up to scrutiny. People who actually dealt with her, before she became a national figure, have expressed how much they were impressed by her intelligence.

Governor Palin's "inexperience" is a talking point that might have some plausibility if it were not for the fact that Barack Obama has far less experience in actually making policies than Sarah Palin has. Joe Biden has had decades of experience in being both consistently wrong and consistently a source of asinine statements.

Governor Palin's candidacy for the vice presidency was what galvanized grass roots Republicans in a way that John McCain never did. But there was something about her that turned even some conservative intellectuals against her and provoked visceral anger and hatred from liberal intellectuals.

Perhaps the best way to try to understand these reactions is to recall what Eleanor Roosevelt said when she first saw Whittaker Chambers, who had accused Alger Hiss of being a spy for the Soviet Union. Upon seeing the slouching, overweight and disheveled Chambers, she said, "He's not one of us."

The trim, erect and impeccably dressed Alger Hiss, with his Ivy League and New Deal pedigree, clearly was "one of us." As it turned out, he was also a liar and a spy for the Soviet Union. Not only did a jury decide that at the time, the opening of the secret files of the Soviet Union in its last days added more evidence of his guilt.

The Hiss-Chambers confrontation of more than half a century ago produced the same kind of visceral polarization that Governor Sarah Palin provokes today.

Before the first trial of Alger Hiss began, reporters who gathered at the courthouse informally sounded each other out as to which of them they believed, before any evidence had been presented. Most believed that Hiss was telling the truth and that it was Chambers who was lying.

More important, those reporters who believed that Chambers was telling the truth were immediately ostracized. None of this could have been based on the evidence for either side, for that evidence had not yet been presented in court.

For decades after Hiss was convicted and sent to federal prison, much of the media and the intelligentsia defended him. To this day, there is an Alger Hiss chair at Bard College.

Why did it matter so much to so many people which of two previously little-known men was telling the truth? Because what was on trial was not one man but a whole vision of the world and a way of life.

Governor Sarah Palin is both a challenge and an affront to that vision and that way of life-- an overdue challenge, much as Chambers' challenge was overdue.

Whether Governor Palin runs for national office again is something that only time will tell. But the Republicans need some candidate who is neither one of the country club Republicans nor-- worse yet-- the sort of person who appeals to the intelligentsia.

This article gives me the opportunity to discuss two of my heroes: Thomas Sowell and Whittaker Chambers.

I first discovered Thomas Sowell as a teenager reading my older brother's copy of the Conservative Chronicle. In the days before the internet, the Chronicle was how we read conservative columnists from around the country.

Robert Stacy McCain often touts Sowell's book "The Vision of the Anointed" -- and rightly so. It's well worth reading.

Sowell compares Palin to Whittaker Chambers, and in my mind, there can be few greater honors than to be compared to that brave and brilliant man. I don't know how many of you ordinary barbarians have read Chambers' famous book "Witness," but if you haven't, you absolutely must. It's one of finest memoirs of the twentieth century, and it's certainly a masterpiece of conservative literature and of American literature in general. There is a lyrical quality to his writing that is evocative of the great literary figures of the 1920s and 30s. As an undergrad at Columbia, his professors and fellow students all thought that he would go on to become a major poet or novelist. You'll see why when you read his book.

Ronald Reagan always had a copy of "Witness" on his shelf. It was a life-changing book for him. He often quoted it.

In 1984, President Reagan posthumously awarded Chambers the Presidential Medal of Freedom for his contribution to "the century's epic struggle between freedom and totalitarianism."

Sowell is right -- Chambers wasn't "one of them." Sarah Palin isn't one of them either. She's one of us. So was Chambers. Chambers was the best of us. So is Sarah Palin.

UPDATE:

The reaction to this column is going to be fun to watch if the comments over at RealClearPolitics are any indication. Here's my personal favorite from a Palin-hater:

Two years as a governor in a state that has no income tax? What did she know about making tough decisions? How hard is it to keep people happy in a state where people get an oil check from the federal government and just want to be left alone? As it's been said, she'd be more fit to run Saudi Arabia than America, where you have to make choices that affect your constituents where it matters, in their pocketbook.

Yeah, creating energy plans and infrastructure for a state that is largely untouched and just 50 years shy of its territorial days as a frontier outpost... walk in the park! Negotiating the largest private infrastructure project in North American history... any idiot could do that! Designing and implementing a massive multifaceted renewable energy plan for a state larger than the combined area of the next three largest states (Texas, California, and Montana)... peanuts! Of course, Sarah Palin is a complete idiot. She's dumb because she has a Fargo accent and winks and says things like "doggone it" and shops at Wal-Mart. She's stupid. When are all of you stupid people going to understand this?

People like that commenter are immune to facts or logic. They think Palin is stupid, and nothing you tell them will change their minds. They're the people Sowell had in mind when he wrote, "The conservative intelligentsia who react against her have remarkably little to say that will stand up to scrutiny."

In our own comments section, some of you have suggested that NRO's love of Jindal and dislike of Palin is a Catholic vs. Evangelical thing. No, I completely disagree. I'm a Catholic in the same vein as the NRO Catholics, and I admire Evangelicals. I think the NRO Catholics do too.

I think the Palin-dislike has to do with certain intellectuals. And I write "certain" because one of the finest intellects at NRO is Victor Davis Hanson, and he loves Sarah Palin. His numerous defenses of Palin during the election were brilliant. And let's not forget the great Mark Steyn and John O'Sullivan. (Outside of NRO, one of my favorite Palin-defending intellectuals is Roger Kimball.) The hate-Palin NRO crowd included Frum, Parker, Chris Buckley and a few other mostly neo-con contributors. The core NRO editorial staff members like K-Lo, Lowry, Ramesh, and Jonah Goldberg were supportive of Palin during the election, but are generally neutral to her now. They tend to just ignore her. I highly doubt that they would support her during a primary election. I don't think they really like her because I don't think they really respect her. I think that's where their instinctive snob-reflex comes into play. They wouldn't admit it unless you gave them sodium pentothal, but I think deep down they're embarrassed by us ordinary barbarians. They'd like the conservative movement to look more like Bobby Jindal and less like Sarah Palin because Palin looks like us and Jindal looks like a faculty member. I think that's what Thomas Sowell was subtly getting at in this column.

I should add that I really like Jindal too. I like both Jindal and Palin and don't see why the conservative movement should be fragmented the way it is by people who show such contempt for Sarah Palin.

On a separate note, one of our readers, Emerson C, suggests that we compile a list of our favorite conservative books. Excellent idea. He offers some suggestions:

Apart from the one's mentioned, my picks would be Eric Voegelin's 'The New Science of Politics', Eric von Kuehnelt Leddhin's 'Leftism Revisited' and Bertrand De Jouvanel's "Power--its Growth and History'.

Benjamin Disraeli instructed us to "Read no history: nothing but biography, for that is life without theory." I tend to read history books and biographies in order to get at the truth without theory -- at least at first. I go for theory later, and Emerson suggests some fine tomes in that department. I encourage our readers to suggest others. Who said the ordinary barbarians can't think like the swells? We just read our Chambers and Kirk in carhartts, that's all.

UPDATE II:

Our readers howiroll and Anonymous (why can't you people just choose a name?!) inform us that Palin was spotted carrying a Thomas Sowell's book at the airport on her way back to Alaska. Excellent choice, Guv.

57 comments:

Anonymous,  February 24, 2009 5:40 AM  

Palin reads a lot of his stuff as well I might add...She was spotted holding one of his books at the airport on her way back to alaska.

Emerson C,  February 24, 2009 5:49 AM  

Ramrocks:

Two excellent books, 'Witness' and "Visions of the Annointed'. It might be useful, if on this forum, we were to share our thoughts on the best conservative books and authors. Apart from the one's mentioned, my picks would be Eric Voegelin's 'The New Science of Politics', Eric von Kuehnelt Leddhin's 'Leftism Revisited' and Bertrand De Jouvanel's "Power--its Growth and History'.

This was a beautiful piece on Sarah. Sowell is a genuiely deep thinker and scholar and 'out-intellectualises' all the so-called intellectuals.

Dave C February 24, 2009 7:41 AM  

Walter Williams too..

Williams and Sowell are the intellectual one-two punch in any argument..

:)

promachus,  February 24, 2009 8:18 AM  

Wasn't Chambers the one who trashed Rand's Atlas Shrugged? I am a Rand homie myself, so no Chambers for me , thanks.

promachus,  February 24, 2009 8:20 AM  

But the Republicans need some candidate who is neither one of the country club Republicans nor-- worse yet-- the sort of person who appeals to the intelligentsia.

Nice closing but it seems all the Republicans are closing ranks behind Bobby Jindal, at least in the blogosphere.

promachus,  February 24, 2009 8:40 AM  

And I meant to add, "all the Republicans are closing ranks behind Bobby Jindal,as one who appeals to intelligentsia and we'll all be screwed!" in the above post.

BTW, I did a preliminary search of Carol Platt Liebau and she endorsed Mark Sanford for Mccain VP. As I've said, they are all trashing Palin just to promote their own candidate. I am guessing that the operatives of the prospective candidates are also hogging conservative hangouts like Hot Air to undermine Gov.Palin

Also, I am guessing why National Review is so cold toward Gov.Palin is that she is an evangelical and they are a Catholic-dominated magazine and those two groups don't really jell together.

The fight is on to discourage and dissuade Gov.Palin from running in 2012 or make her so radioactive that she can't win a primary.

Jenny February 24, 2009 9:23 AM  

Promachus,
I don't think religion has much to do with NR's positives on Jindal. I'm a Catholic who loves Evangelicals because I relate to them and their devotion to their religion unfortunately there are many cafeteria Catholics and the church does not do much about that.
Palin and Glenn Beck were baptized Catholics and left the Church. I don't blame them. As you can tell from my mini rant, I have issues with the lack of chutzpah from the Catholic church.
Anyway, Sowell's piece is excellent. I need to pick up a copy of Chamber's book. (Was that the book Anonymous mentioned Palin was reading or was it Sowell's?)
Palin is a common gal, who did not go to the biggest university or is a scholar, but is bright and gets what conservatism means.
Recall, Reagan had the same attacks from the conservative intelligentsia, and they supported Papa Bush. However, there was no denying that Reagan had the 'it' factor and was extremely bright. He eventually won. Big time.
As for Jindal, I do like him, and he does seem to be a normal guy. We haven't seen nor read much of him to formulate an opinion. I was impressed with MTP interview, and he can be funny. It's a wait and see approach with Bobby.

Videmus Omnia February 24, 2009 9:34 AM  

Promachus, I agree that I don't think Catholicism is too much of a factor with the NR thing. I think it's much more of an elitist, went to the right schools kind of thing.

Laura Ingraham is a fervent convert to Catholicm who backs up Governor Palin 100%.

sarah palin rocks February 24, 2009 10:11 AM  

As Sowell says, "only time will tell." I do know that many people feel that Sarah is "one of us."

We are a long way from 2012 and bloggers can talk up whatever candidates they want to. The MSM will do the same hit jobs on any candidate that threatens Obama (remember what happened to Hillary, McCain and Sarah).

Sarah is a phenomenon! She is the only politician (besides Obama) who can draw tens of thousands to listen to her on a consistent basis. People are forgetting the huge crowds she drew during the campaign despite the daily media attacks.

Anytime Sarah is on tv, she is ratings gold. She is a proven national fundraiser (look at McCain campaign's donations after she was added to the ticket). I'll bet SarahPAC will be quite a success.

I don't see any other politician generating this level of enthusiasm or excitement which is it what takes to win.

JR February 24, 2009 10:12 AM  

I'm a Catholic and I support the Cuda 6000000000000%

!!!!

Jindal is great but he doesn't have "it"

sarah palin rocks February 24, 2009 10:12 AM  

As Sowell says, "only time will tell." I do know that many people feel that Sarah is "one of us."

We are a long way from 2012 and bloggers can talk up whatever candidates they want to. The MSM will do the same hit jobs on any candidate that threatens Obama (remember what happened to Hillary, McCain and Sarah).

Sarah is a phenomenon! She is the only politician (besides Obama) who can draw tens of thousands to listen to her on a consistent basis. People are forgetting the huge crowds she drew during the campaign despite the daily media attacks.

Anytime Sarah is on tv, she is ratings gold. She is a proven national fundraiser (look at McCain campaign's donations after she was added to the ticket). I'll bet SarahPAC will be quite a success.

I don't see any other politician generating this level of enthusiasm or excitement which is it what takes to win.

narciso February 24, 2009 10:18 AM  

I'm tired of this elitism, they were probably the leading backers of Goldwater, who was quite nearly the same profile as Sarah. Ironically it takes expatriates like Steyn and O'Sullivan, to appreciate her more than the domestic kind. I linked in a earlier post, the Telegraph piece
about young Margaret Thatcher, who was remarkably more like the Governor than I ever though. Don't ask me about John "I was an extra in a Bruce Lee film" Derbyshire strange aversion to her. It seems to be rooted in his agnosticism,
or possibly because she won't lock every illegal immigrant. Steyn is more like Burnham, the geostrategist, but with a sense of humor



Chamber's reaction to Rand, is more strongly rooted in his refusal to abandon his faith, which was a consequence of Rand's experiences in Russia.

promachus,  February 24, 2009 10:46 AM  

Class, race, sexism--I knew the Democrats were mired in that stuff but I never expected from GOP the kinda snobbery they threw at Gov.Palin. I think the animus against her is eating up the entire party. You can tell by the outburts coming from the congresisonal retreat, Sanford's remarks, NRO and other mainstream conservatives -- it keeps sprouting up in different quarters,it all adds up. They are choking in some kind of anti-Palin hysteria and it is very galling to think that could be caused by class issue. It's really opened by eyes and I will never trust GOP implicitly again. As foreigners we tend to believe certain myths about America and it's very hard to have them get them knocked before you. Even Mark Steyn admitted he got a slap in the face kinda revelation and he's stayed in America for so many years!

I know there are many prominent conservatives who are Catholics but on the whole, there does seem to be some kinda friction between evangelicals and catholics within the conservative movement and that could harm Gov.Palin. This is jsut my hunch and I'd be glad to be proved wrong.

Narciso, I don't think Rand's atheism flows from her experience in Russia. It's strong uncompromising individualism that she gets from Russia. Rand flirted with theological and spiritual arguments for a while and I think from her writings, it is clear that she was attracted to a certain kind of Catholicism(she admired Acquinas) and she did say she wasn't a militant atheist. I did read the Chambers hit piece on Rand and as many fellow Objectivists would have it, we will never get even with him. Faith is fine, rank dishonesty is another matter altogether and his attack on Atlas Shurgged was totally dishonest. His other work maybe good but I don't have the stomach to sample it.

bitterclinger,  February 24, 2009 11:26 AM  

I just don't think I could take the GOP Establishment putting up Romney or Jindal or someone of their choosing. It's time to let the base decide -- and other than Romney's private cash, SarahPac has to have the most money. Time's a wastin' with Barry Carter and his minions wrecking the country. If Sarah ran as an Independent or Libertarian I'd vote for her no matter what. Screw the GOP.

I'm listening to Glenn Beck and Stu marvel at his ratings (TV, radio and internet streaming) going through the roof, I think he's a key. He'd root for Sarah and tout her possible candidacy as much as he could. He's getting quite a following.

Dave C February 24, 2009 12:18 PM  

Blue blood..

a fancy way of saying 'In-bred'

howIroll February 24, 2009 12:27 PM  

"Vision of the Anointed" was the book she was carrying.

Videmus Omnia February 24, 2009 12:29 PM  

Promachus, the class issue slapped me hard across the face during this past election, and I was born and raised here!

I always knew the Democrats were hypocrites with their rhetoric about the middle class, but I never dreamed the phenomenon was so widespread through the conservative punditry.

It's as if the GOP expects ordinary flyover-country conservatives to just fall in line and vote for their candidates in exactly the way the Democrats expect minorities to do so.

Anonymous,  February 24, 2009 12:44 PM  

Laura Ingraham pushes Bobby Jindel's name a lot on her show. As she says, she got to know him years ago. So basically, he's her guy if it was a choice between Palin and him.

JR February 24, 2009 12:50 PM  

People need to stop worrying about every little thing people say about Jindal

Relax a little

bitterclinger,  February 24, 2009 12:54 PM  

Speaking of books, I've been hearing lots about "Unintended Consequences," by John Ross. It's a 2nd Amendment book told in story form.

Don't take my word for it - look at the reader reviews on Amazon. This book actually converts anti-gun zealots to gun owners. My local 'brary doesn't have copies and the price is between $50 - $60. I'm placing a want ad in my local paper.

Anonymous,  February 24, 2009 1:28 PM  

A clarification about Gov. Palin "leaving the Catholic Church": she was a young child when her mother left the Church and took her children with her.

JR is right, Jindal doesn't have "it". Since 1960 when television became a vital part of national politics, "it" is what takes a candidate over the top. Jindal may be 1,000x smarter than Obambi, but he would make Obama literally look good. Gov. Palin would have the opposite effect. Also, the left may be unwittingly setting the bar for her so low that she will inevitably come across as much more serious and informed than expected, whilst Dear Leader loses a little luster everyday.

promachus,  February 24, 2009 2:08 PM  

Why are these posts jumping up and down all the time even when there are no updates?

Jenny February 24, 2009 2:08 PM  

Thank you Howlroll. I might check out "Vision of the Anointed."
Also, I know Laura Ingraham (or as "The Great One" calls her one of the "backbenchers")loves Jindal. I can see because she has known Jindal since he had some fame with his published writings on his conversion to Catholicism in Catholic magazines, especially Jesuit Magazine in his twenties.
Some say that Jindal got some of his political positions early on because of his fame in Catholic quarters in the South.
I am not going to jump on Jindal since I do like him. But Sarah IMHO is more of a threat against Obama and as Dennis Miller said, she is "pissing off the right people for me."

JR February 24, 2009 2:18 PM  

Promachus,

I felt this was the most important post of the day

... so far

Lorna Marie February 24, 2009 2:37 PM  

i just read this
http://thomasalamb.blogspot.com/2009/02/wasilla-womens-glee-club-chatty-cattys.html

and myt blood is boilinga. THIS perhsonal crap is what gets me.

promachus,  February 24, 2009 2:49 PM  

Enough of crap for one day. Can't take anymore.

Goes looking. Can't help it.

Want to smash the head of that rat.

Also, laughing aloud thinking that Sarah doesn't need to stray when she has Todd with her. Obviously, these bitches are jealous.

howIroll February 24, 2009 2:54 PM  

Here's what heartens me---all candidates we have who enter the primary will be debating one another, and you know the debates will be nationally televised especially if the Guv is among them. She has natural debating skills; if she couples that with clear and concise knowledge on the subjects and a vision, she'll blow them all away on a televised debate. Not to worry.

Lorna Marie February 24, 2009 3:00 PM  

btw Fox is about to do a segment on jindal after the commercial "jindal star power?"...well shoot maybe it'll be on shep's show. lol ran outta time i guess.

and lol promachus. bitches be jealous forsure.

manajordan February 24, 2009 3:03 PM  

Thanks so much for this post. My respect for Thomas Sowell increases anytime I read or anything from him. I think he hit the nail on the head.
Sarah Palin will be successful at whatever she does because she does it for the right reasons, she has the heart of a true servant.
A good heart and a good brain, makes for a great leader.

howIroll February 24, 2009 3:04 PM  

You guys realize that NOBODY really follows all this political stuff except for us junkies. The only people reading political blogs and watching cable news 24/7 now already have their agenda and their favorites already in place. It'll be all about the swing voters--and none of them will pay one whit of attention until a few months before an election.
That's why name recognition and charisma are so important.

Lorna Marie February 24, 2009 3:12 PM  

oi vey. now bobby jindal is the first gov to want to turn down stimulus money....smacks head...now unless they mean he's the first to formally put a tag price on what he's turning down then fine.

oh and thanks howlroll for the book title!

Anonymous,  February 24, 2009 3:18 PM  

Here's the transcript of Ziegler on Beck:
http://www.glennbeck.com/content/articles/article/196/21908/

DEO,  February 24, 2009 3:26 PM  

Well, I LOVE the CUDA!!! I am also too very frightened of her. You know she´s like a warrior goddess, a moose skinner, Cruella deVille sometimes with the wolf paw stuff. Then again, I can relate to her totally because I also too went to many schools to get MY journalism degree and many times I will find myself whining about people who are constantly out to get me! I swear, it´s true, they just ARE.

hrh February 24, 2009 3:33 PM  

Ziegler also going to be on Beck's TV show tonight at 5:00 p.m. ...

promachus,  February 24, 2009 3:35 PM  

DEO,your rant is not really funny.

promachus,  February 24, 2009 3:52 PM  

I never read biographies. They bore me. reading history is a habit I've developed recentlyand it's something I love.

I think Jonah likes Gov.Palin even though he knows pushing her could cause serious heartburn now. He at least doesn't take pot shots at her,more than you can say about the other stuffy people out there.

BTW, yall seem to be Catholics here. What gives? :)

promachus,  February 24, 2009 4:02 PM  

Sorry, I keep hogging the thread but I trawled through a lot of conservative blogs today and wherever Jindal's video was posted, there was unanimous support for him with the requisite Palin bashing of course.

Ramrocks, just an objective question, since I know nothing at all about ins and outs of this issue.

Somebody at Hot Air said that Jindal rose in Louisiana so quickly because of his connections in the Catholic circuit there. I was wondering if Palin-Jindal extended primary wouldn't become ugly . Would the conservative Catholic establishment(as much as is left) back Gov.Palin against Jindal or will they try to get one of their own into power?

Emerson C,  February 24, 2009 4:04 PM  

Promachus:

As a Catholic, I would support Governor Sarah Palin before I would support faux-Catholics like Pelosi, Biden, Kerry or Kennedy. I think that ortodox Catholics are far closer to evangelicals than they are to liberal/modernist Catholics. I am also aware that Sarah Palin has probably been influenced by the writings of CS Lewis (Charlie Snow's interview). She thought he was 'very deep'. CS Lewis was a British writer, at Oxford, who was steeped in literature and the classics, and was one of the greatest Christian apologists of the 20th century. CS lewis may not have been everyone's cup of tea but he wrote in the orthodox tradition and in no way could be disparaged as a 'fundamentalist'. CS Lewis has always been immensely popular with both Catholics and Evangelicals.

Ignore Deo, she does this all over the place.

davek70 February 24, 2009 4:04 PM  

I just hope Jindal goes back and focuses on governing his state after tonight. I want to judge his record as governor just as Sarah's is judged. Maybe it's just b/c he's giving the response tonight, but I am continuing to think the media is already starting to build him up as the establishment GOP candidate. This is what got the GOP in trouble last election and how we ended up w/ McCain. I am going to watch the response from him tonight and I like him as well, but I still think Sarah is the frontrunner now. I would love for them to run together.

Ramrocks February 24, 2009 4:13 PM  

Awesome! We've got our first moby. Welcome, DEO. Now leave.

Dave C February 24, 2009 4:19 PM  

In less than a month, an ivy league graduate has already spent more, with a swoop of his pen, than the entire eight years of GWB.

Yeah, we really dodged a bullet with that Palin chick.

yup.
/sarc off.

Lorna Marie February 24, 2009 4:22 PM  

haha promachus, and a happy fat tuesday to you :)

i spoke with my family a bit about palin vs jindal. now they are pretty hardcore catholic as far as being involved in the catholic community. they like what they know about jindal, as far as being a catholic politician, but they dont know his policies per se. we're more of a palin bunch than jindal, maybe because my uncle and i are in the tank for palin haha.

however, id say we both feel that jindal would be on the short list for palin's VP.

otherwise, the majority of the people in my filipino/catholic family are democrats. :(
that made for fun arguments at family parties.

Lorna Marie February 24, 2009 4:24 PM  

huntsman on neil cavuto now.

Lorna Marie February 24, 2009 4:25 PM  

funniest thing ever. as huntsman is talking, all the fox facts under huntsman is all about jindal haha

davek70 February 24, 2009 4:27 PM  

Mods,

Off topic here, but I just found this in my local paper. As soon as the AK legislative session is over Sarah needs to get down here and start helping Perry. Hutch has a huge lead. Which is a bit baffling to me since everyone I know down here on the GOP side thinks she's too RINO. Perry is not much better, but if Sarah can turn this thing around for him, it will demonstrate enormous power of her campaigning and fundraising abilities. I'm going to post it at TeamSarah as well.

http://blogs.chron.com/txpotomac/2009/02/new_poll_hutchison_has_huge_le.html

Dave C February 24, 2009 4:30 PM  

The buzz about Jindal could be a silver lining..

Take some of the media attention off of Sarah.. Then she can do her job without the microscope on her.

(wrong thread for here but here I am)

What kinds of cars do the legislators in AK drive? Most notably , Hollis French?

J Sawyer February 24, 2009 4:54 PM  

****
think you meant John O'Sullivan instead of Andrew Sullivan.
****

Since I think some conservatives will be less into Palin as her abstinence plus views and like issues become more widely known, I was delighted with Sowell's support. And indeed her centrist views must get out of the black hole of the crazy Palin-Narrative.

Reading Thomas Sowell is the drug of my choice. Glad he's legal.

Anyone know what book Palin had as she was traveling??

Reading Sowell's Personal Memoirs was a blast. What attitude!

~Johanna

Ramrocks February 24, 2009 5:04 PM  

Johanna,

Thank you so much for catching that. Dear Lord, how could I have confused those two!

howIroll February 24, 2009 5:30 PM  

FWIW, I believe Jindal when he said he is NOT going to run in 2012. He's been governor for just 2 years now and I think we need more time to see exactly how things go down in LA. So far so good...but... Additionally, Jindal will not even be 40 years old when he needs to begin campaigning. IMO that's far too young (yes, I know he's constitutionally eligible) to run for POTUS. However, I think he'd make a great VP choice.

Ivy League grads have gotten us into the situation we now find ourselves---Clinton, Bush, and now Obama, along with their appointees. When will we learn? (and this is coming from the mom of 2 Yalies, so I don't need to hear from Ivy Leaguers).

As far as tonight goes, as I've posted before, I wish Jindal had not agreed to give the response--at least not this year. I'm glad Palin is not giving it. Elections are won/lost by the party which can attract the swing voter. If Jindal goes too hard on Obama, I can see the average swing voter being left with a bad taste---"that guy isn't giving the president a chance, he's only been in office for a month," etc. If he doesn't go too hard, he's not conservative enough. He's caught between a rock and a hard place.

Emerson C,  February 24, 2009 5:37 PM  

I Think that the late Gerry Falwell and Fr Nauhaus spoke a lot about 'Evangelicals and Catholics together', brought together by the 'values' issues. One of them (I cant remember which) spoke of the 'ecunemism of the trenches' on the sanctity of life issue. I don't know enough about the development of Jindal's outlook to comment, but Palin by her life choices, incarnates those values more than can ever be achieved by mere espousal. Insofar ss this issue is paramount, this is her true charism, and it is irresistable.

Ramrocks February 24, 2009 5:52 PM  

Emerson,

Please email us at editor@conservatives4palin.com. We have a question for you.

Anonymous,  February 24, 2009 8:44 PM  

Hmmm, my Jindal questioning comment was removed from the comments section. It wasn't mean or nasty.

Interesting.

bitterclinger,  February 24, 2009 9:38 PM  

Yet another conservative Catholic in the bunch here. For what it's worth, I think Sarah and Todd's decision to welcome Trig to their family despite the Down diagnosis has her at the top of every conservative Catholic's ideal candidate wish list.

Bobby's okay, and I'm glad he has joined the fold, but Christian is Christian as far as I'm concerned. I don't think Catholics have had a scorecard since John Kennedy was elected.

The hippie priest at my FORMER church was so anti-war that he was a major Obama guy -- even if it meant supporting a baby killer. Sickening.

Ramrocks February 25, 2009 4:09 AM  

Anonymous,

I didn't delete it. I don't think JR did. We're the ban hammers here. Perhaps it wasn't saved or entered properly. Feel free to post it again.

Timmy W,  March 10, 2009 5:19 PM  

I admire Sarah Palin, but she is a political lightweight -- and did show she could not hold her own as a communicator.

There are better choices -- even BJ.

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