Monday Open Thread: There's a Bore in the Woods
h/t MWN for the title
"Bring her about and give 'em another broadside!"
UPDATE by VO: Tommy Christopher had this to say about the video:
There's no way to know at this point, but I imagine Romney's next move will be to purchase the rights to "Yakkety Sax" and make a copyright claim with YouTube.
UPDATE by RAM: Welcome readers from the HuffPost, Politico, Politics Daily, et al. There seems to be some suggestion that the video was intended to show Palin shooting Mitt. Gimme a break. It's the bear she takes out. That's why she has the bear skin rug in the last frame.
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Good Grief .So everyone who has a video showing them working out in the woods gets the Gov. to protect them.
Hey, that seems reasonable to me.
So, Mittens runs away when there's a bear in the woods but the Go.v tackles it and get herself a great rug.
Nice.
That's great! Looks like the first ad for the 2012 GOP nomination.
Benny Hill - YEA!
How appropriate.
Holy Moly! Don't you guys ever sleep? That was freaking fantastic! It's great to wake up and start the day with a deep belly laugh. Thank you very much.
Over at GOP12.com, he has the entire video up of the Romney/Cantor interview with John King. It's the one where Romney disses Palin, at around the 14 minute mark.
http://www.gop12.com/
Great video! That was hilarious! That put a smile on my face.
Definitely 2 thumbs up!
Thanks for the laughs!!
Why did Mr. Romney respond about Governor Palin in that way? Even if she were less than his first choice in Republican leadership, I expected more from him. That's disappointing.
BTW, I hope it doesn't get nasty around here between Palinites and MittBots. That would really turn me off. Seriously.
If you are interested in seeing a diagram that links Obama to all of his radical connections and learn more of the Cloward-Piven strategy of orchestrating the downfall of capitalism I suggest that you go and read an article at:
www.americanthinker.com/2008/09/barack_obama_and_the_strategy.html
sorry the link got cut off:
www.americanthinker.com/2008/09/
barack_obama_and_the_strategy.html
Patty,
You def just got pranked lol
maybe the "GILF" should have given it away
THAT"S MESSED UP!!!!! they did spell the name incorrectly so...
www.americanthinker.com/2009/09/
barack_obama_and_the_strategy.html
Just got this tweet from Allahpundit:
allahpunditVideo: Palin fans smack Romney for taking a shot at her http://is.gd/wBZk
Maybe he'll post this at HA later..
i like the gop12 guys thoughts on the politico piece about top gop grumblings:
http://www.gop12.com/2009/05/palin-no-comments-romney.html
he hits the nail on the button.
That is funny right there, I don't care who you are..
Objectively since the beginning of the Alaskan legislature what do you think the majority of people of the Lower 48 remember Sarah Palin the most for?
1)several ethics complaints and her setting up a legal defense fund
2)her speech at the pro-life dinner at Evansville
3)the reporting of her original stand on the stimulus bill compared to the final result as determined by the legislature
4)the establishment of SarahPAC
5)the supposed mix-up of her appearance at the Congressional dinner
My answer: unfortunately #1.
Well played, C4P! Your move, Mittens.
I *heart* the Guv!
I apologize if this has already been posted, and I missed it:
http://www.redstate.com/josh_painter/2009/05/01/sarah-palin-is-still-alive-and-well-in-alaska/
It's a good read.
Jeb Bush says it's time to leave Reagan behind. Here is what he really saying:
1)By association leave Palin behind as well
2)JB is a RINO and is not a conservative
3)He is defending his brother from any comparison between Reagan and GWB
4)his belief in competing with Obama on the Messiah's playing field of 'socialism'
5)JB will not be talking about the natural rights of man anytime soon
Another article: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2009/05/04/2009-05-04_aww_shoot_nra_makes_palin_top_gun.html#ixzz0EXvz0VHk&B
This one is about the NRA's tribute gun to Governor Palin and Alaska.
Props to someone at the C4P facebook group for posting these two articles.
i think jeb is just saying that the republicans need good ideas... then they can bash the dems over the head but simply saying "ahhh remember regan" isn't going to get you anywhere.
Rasmussen has Obama's net approval index today at +5 (35-30)and his overall rating +14 (57-43). Obama had a good day on Sunday.
Ideas = New Government Programs and Mandates.
My idea is that we live up to the principles of conservatism, how about that?
If they want to toss the Reagan legacy out like so much garbage, we'll be glad to pick it up, dust it off, and rally behind that flag. With pride...
At least we've settled the issue of who is the real "Reagan conservative" nice and early.
Have fun, guys. I'm sure you all will go far without the conservative base. Your new friends in the "radical middle" will take great care of you.
By the way, big letdown, Jindal.
Sarah's playing this like a pro. She's the Annie Duke of politics.
Geeeeez, Techno, who is Rassmusen polling? That's a big swing from Sat.
Too much snark in GOP12, what's she's supposed to get rid of the bear, give up the Arctic Cat snow machines, even if they are the main mode of transportation up
there. Race 42012,with the exception of Adam Brickley, doesn't impress me either, very much, that toting up of Romney's 'advantages', like that team that McCain hired, who showed no loyalty or ingenuity when times became difficult. In undoubtedly tough times, you want someone who will 'have your back' and you don't have to second guess their commitment to the effort. Mitt had all the advantages on paper, but when the time came, he bailed, much too prematurely. Sarah carries all these other responsibilities, yet she thought it was her duty to help out, And she did not falter, or fade under the relentless assault. A lesser
man or woman, would have said, it was nice knowing ya, but I'm not getting involved again in anything larger than my state. Yet she has first for Chambliss, then the stimulus, and finally Evansville, because of the greater implications for the Nation. I’m really disappointed at Jeb’s words, which one of Reagan’s principles should we jettison now. Low taxes, pro military, defense of firearms
And law enforcement
I have a question for the contributors. Yesterday Sinistar had a post about C4P creating an archive of Sarah Palin videos. I think that's a great idea. After reading this morning's post by VO, a thought occurred to me. Is it feasible for C4P to create an archive or list of so-called Republican "insiders" or "consultants" who have dissed Governor Palin. I can think of 4 right off the bat. Nicole Wallace, Rob Gray, Mike Murphy, and that guy from a few weeks ago. I can't remember his name other than it was hard to pronounce. John Feerhly or something like that??? Anyway. if C4P could create a list of these fools along with links to their idiotic statements, it could be useful in the future. Perhaps the list could be presented to Governor Palin at some point so that she doesn't hire any of these clowns. If the creation of such a list becomes well known to these beltway types, maybe an added benefit would be that they STFU...if for no other reason than future employment prospects.
Wow DB now THAT is a great idea.
Have it called the "naysayers of Politics" or something like that.
Sinister might be a tad upset about it though.
Couple stories from Publishers Weekly.
The Good:
Glenn Beck signs multi-book deal with S&S including "Common Sense" (his take on Paine) and "Arguing with Idiots."
http://www.publishersweekly.com/article/CA6655969.html?nid=2286&source=link&rid=285875021
The Sickening:
GMA and The View hosted James Carville for his new book, "40 More Years: How the Democrats Will Rule the Next Generation"
http://www.publishersweekly.com/article/CA6655920.html?nid=2286&source=title&rid=285875021
Heh, heh, wonder if he mentions Palin?
hrh.. my stomach just turned, flipped flopped at the Carville books deal and the name of it. Good grief!
The Trig Truther at the Atlantic magazine blog, Andrew Sullivan, is at it again with a post last night about Gov. Palin's remarks about Trig during the Evansville speech. The man is in the advanced stages of derangement.
To make matters worse, AOSHQ has a post this morning on how the President follows Sullivan's blog, and it was the source for the false statement about Churchill during last week's press conference.
Wouldn't it be nice if some reporter would ask the President or Gibbs why the President gets his information from a blogger who believes that Trig Palin is some kind of fraud.
Lmao! Run for hills Mitt!
Rush is talking about Palin and will talk more about her in the next hour! He exposed the New American Council for their despise on Sarah.
vertias:
"Wouldn't it be nice if some reporter would ask the President or Gibbs why the President gets his information from a blogger who believes that Trig Palin is some kind of fraud."
brilliant!!! lol
Rush Limbaugh is claiming that Jeb Bush is diminishing the 'nostalgia of Reagan to get at Sarah Palin.
Make no mistake when a prominent Republican like Jeb is attacking the credentials of a governor who has been on hiatus for the last 5 months you know that Sarah is 'on the mind' of prominent Republicans and is considered a major player and 'exasperated' by the attention she is getting.
Rush is right 99% of the time. What are the chances he is wrong here?
With the news of John Edwards being under federal investigation, I'm reminded of the disparate treatement he and Gov. Palin received from the MSM. Both had pretty much the same "experience" when picked to run as VP. The MSM portrayed Edwards as a godsend and tirelessly pushed him as an attractive presidential candidate in 2008. No teams of investigative reporters were sent to look through dumpsters in NC for dirt on him.
Look how wrong they were.
Rush is really giving Sarah a boost today by associating her with the pro-life movement and and being anti-amnesty. The guy has 22m listeners. For Sarah she could spend millions of dollars on a 30 minute ad on TV and not get the type of credibility that Rush just gave her. And remember Rush never says anything on radio that he has never thought about.
veritas:
Rumor out there that Sully is blogging from a mental health clinic.
So, that would be "Gibbs, why does the president break bread with a mental patient who believes Trig Palin is some sort of fraud?"
http://justoneminute.typepad.com/main/2009/04/ben-smith-with-a-bullet.html
Nat - right, I was giving that lunatic more credit than he deserves.
You're listening to Rush, techno? He's on fire.... really sticking it to this "new council" and claiming they all want to run for President in 2012 and this is a way of silencing Sarah Palin. He said Palin was the only candidate who stands for "good old-fashioned American conservatism" and these guys don't want her, they despise her and are threatened.
He also said Romney's "dig" was a dig at her, period.
Yogi41 - I'm listening to Rush talk about this too.
He is ticked off that Jeb Bush said to leave Reagan behind. Rush said he is hearing people say we should leave the Bushes behind instead! LOL!
Yep - Even Rush picked up that Romney took a dig at Sarah with those "beautiful" comments. So its not just our imagination.
Rush also says that more and more people are thinking about leaving the country because they are "scared to death" of the Obama administration's power grab.
Yogi41:
When Rush mentions Sarah it is always good news because he has the unique ability to define her opposition in lay terms which Sarah because of political practicality could never come close to approaching and thus increase the popular and financial support for her among his listeners.
Amen, techno! :)
Sarah is anti-amnesty?
Look, if we should take that tack, only after Sarah gives an explicit indication of where her priorities lie.
Can't wait to download it from 24/7 when I get home. Sounds like a Rush classic.
With Rush, Hannity, Levin, and Ingraham more or less on board, how can Romney, Jeb, and company possibly hope to compete?
There aren't enough moderates out there to offset the fatal damage they are doing to themselves with the base.
Like I said, if they don't want the Reagan legacy weighing them down, we'll give it a good home and do the Gipper proud.
This is why I think Obama can be a one termer. He is striking fear into the hearts of many people. Reports are surfacing that Obama's administration threatened Chrysler bold holders who did not want to accept the bankruptcy deal that gives the UAW Union majority control of that company.
I also saw a ticker headline that Obama says that Wall Street will not be a main factor in the US economy in the future. He is going after hedgefunds and corporations now that AIG has been ruined.
Can you imagine what Obama will do if he wins a second term? Obama and the Dems would control everything ACORN would be all powerful.
I believe we will have show trials of Republicans who worked for Bush in Obama's second term. Obama probably won't push for the show trials until after he is re-elected. Republicans better stop attacking conservatives and focus on working hard to defeat Obama/DNC.
wisetrog,
If her interview with Greta is still available, I do recall she discusses the immigration issue. It's the interview on Halloween day, where she's on the bus with Piper, Todd, Willow and Trig around her.
She never mentions amnesty; she instead diverts the discussion towards enforcing the laws on the books. She said something to the effect of she's tired of everyone talking about it and never taking any action. She said we have laws on the books to build the fence, raids and other tactics and those are courses we should be following.
But, she steered clear of talking about the 12 million already here, so I don't know where she stands on amnesty.
Nat Hound,
glad to hear we are RUSH 24/7 compatriots!
Anyone who listens to Limbaugh regularly can pick up his subtle messages, and one thing I'm certain of, is that he is disappointed that Jindal has taken up with the McCain posse and rushed to the middle. Friday, at the end of his discussion concerning their New GOP confab, he said.
"These guys, they're going to make a mistake if they allow Democrat criticism to shape the way they do this."
Now being that he could care less about any of the other guys in that group, I believe he was aiming this at jindal. Also, I would add BECK to your list of Palin supporters. He is a HUGE Palin fan and could be an important ally in recruiting the Libertarians to the cause. (Of which I am 2-3 days a week depending on how many idiotic things the Repubs do). (:
Yesterday I referred to the acronym SPIN. The more I think about it the more I realize this it is exactly the overall strategy Obama is employing to implement his agenda and destroy Sarah:
Specious reasoning
Presumptuous behavior
Insidious subterfuge
Negation of contrary opinion
What I would like (wishlist)for my next "President" to do:
1. Eeopen drilling in the OCS areas of the Nation and reopen drilling in the Nation for prospecting NG and Oil for our fellow Americans.
2. Close the southern border and erect a decent wall, that if it needs adjustment to have it worked out.
3. Stop halting farmers to stop farming. Also stop paying them a subsidy and if it comes down to it, let them NOT pay taxes so they can live and farm to produce food for Americans!
4. Ask Congress and the Senate to offer incentives to "College Kids" that if they help on Farms (picking and fielding) that colleges (which do get Federal monies) to offer incentives (such as lower tuition) to go to college as they help farmers for a decent wage and push the illegals out.
5. Knock the EPA, and IEA enviormental standards off. As it is hurting all businesses.
6. Have the Federal government offer incentives (tax subs or write off's) for small to medium businesses that can show they are not wasting, they are hiring and viable to the economy.
7. If a fruadualt claim comes to light on envirnmental issues and is shown that is it fraudulent. The Enviromental Org or Comp should pay back the Government in wasting time and fees on this lawsuit and to pay a sum to the Company or Person(s) that they had a lawsuit against, so that the Comp/Person(s) can start the process of whatever it was before halted.
9. If a Political person is found that they are "corupt", they should be removed from any/all political offices and have hearing ASAP and the seat should have a vote by the people, for replacement.
10. Hold people accoutable in all sense of the word, for any violations done to the constitution.
Ok, this is my "wish list".
Wise, Yogi... she is not for amnesty.
She had a National Guard unit go down and help start the "wall". I can find a link if you like.
Also there is a start up here on deporting people back to wherever they come from. As Alaska doesn't have the influx from mexico (we do have some) we have more people whom are from China, Veitnam and other Orient areas.
upinak, you've made me really glad. if she comes explicitly against amnesty, cons would be delighted.
wise, Sarah and I don't really know how bad it is down there. As up here we are isolated.
But we are not stupid, we have seen the news and know. Just give her time. She will figure out something to say concerning it.
Another take on Thatcher, from a surprising source, the German magazine Spiegel, consider the parallels therein.
http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,622618,00.html
Upinak, that does seem to fit everything we know about her, the thing is she will frame in theless fire breathing tones, than the other commentators on the topic.
The likes of Univision and the amnesty will raise a ruckus, but that's par for the course
sarah palin rocks:
It is interesting you mention the word 'fear' because it will be interesting in a democracy how the electorate will consider to this emotion when exercising their secret ballot in 2010 and 2012.
I am convinced that Obama will leverage this fear and convert it through the MSM prism of absolute Leftist veracity to an emotion of antagonistic jaundiced resentment and cyncial hostility that could prompt abiding 'fear' of counterrevolution from the Messiah's supporters and make them even more fervent in wanting to fulfill the Messiah's every desire and see the Democrats win.
What should become a winning hand for the Republicans in most elections may in turn become its greatest obstacle to taking Obama out in 2012 if Obama's war room and its allies have anything to say in the matter.
You might ask how I know this. This is exactly the strategy that Hitler used between 1934 and 1945 when he cited the Communists and the Jews as a greater fear to the German nation and its citizens than some recalcitrant citizens expressing horror at the efficiency of the Nazi regime to protect the anachronisms of their past influence and power.
upinak,
I had not heard that about the deporting people in AK. Interesting.
Amnesty is one of my #1 issues for the next GOP candidate. I also remember the Greta interview as well where Sarah said protect the border and enforce the laws on the books.
This amnesty issue is really complicated for the GOP. Someone is going to have to come up with a viable and pragmatic solution to it. Virtually nothing was said about it in the last campaign b/c no one wants to touch it.
I am of the belief that many Hispanics (or any immigrants) who are here legally would like to see the illegal ones "get in line" or "return home and come back legally" just like they did. The problem has been that the GOP cannot settle on a position on this issue and articulate it.
Obama is trying to bring all Hispanics under his control, and will do so unless there is a solid, positive pro legal immigration message coming out of the GOP.
I hope Sarah will articulate a good message on this if and when she runs for POTUS. Hispanics are traditional, family values, hard working people. There is no reason why they should not be in the GOP column.
I saw the spanish interview of Palin on Univision during the campaign. I believe she answered the immigration question by saying something like her first priority would be enforcing the borders (wall, security, etc). I think she said that she is also, like McCain, in favor of allowing work permits to otherwise law-abiding immigrants. My understanding was that she agreed with Bush's plan, except she would actually enforce it.
I remember Malkin not being ecstatic about her answer. So this won't be a Republican selling point.
We should get a transcript of that to be sure, but I think she's with McCain/Bush on this one.
upinak,
That is good to hear. I'm in Southern California, so you can only imagine how horrible it is here and we don't have any politician with the guts to tell the truth about this issue.
Look everyone
Operation Jump Start
http://www.arng.army.mil/Lists/NewsItems/DispForm.aspx?ID=1371
Also this:
http://www.adn.com/front/story/583471.html
AmeriCuda -
This summer will start my 19th year as a fan of the big man. It's been a pleasure, even in the dark days.
He's aging like fine wine, never been better, and we're going to need him.
Sarah vs. Obama vs. Mitt and Jeb's "Legion of (Electoral) Doom" may be just the thing to push Rush off the sideline come primary time.
Can you imagine this lineup for an appearance:
Zo and Carrie Prejean opening for a Rush/Sarah double bill. They'd tear the roof off the place.
I'm having trouble understanding why his comments were so offensive. True, it wasn't necessarily flattering to Gov. Palin, but this wasn't malicious either. Why the uproar?
Ok, I found some of her comments and I will translate a few for you guys.
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Reporter: "How many undocumented immigrants are there in Alaska?"
Palin: "I don't know, I don't know. That's a good question."
Palin does not agree to giving amnesty to the 12 or 13 million undocumented immigrants in the United States.
Palin: "No, I do not agree, I do not believe in total amnesty."
However, she also does not believe that they should be all be deported.
Palin: "It is impossible to arrest every undocumented immigrant....It's impossible, and additionally, it's not a humane form of dealing with this situation."
Palin, like McCain, supports first reinforcing the border with Mexico so that less undocumented immigrants can enter. And once that is accomplished, offer those undocumented and without a criminal record the opportunity to legalize their immigrant status.
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Link: http://www.univision.com/content/content.jhtml?chid=3&schid=160&secid=3117&cid=1715206&pagenum=2
Cory said..."I'm having trouble understanding why his comments were so offensive. True, it wasn't necessarily flattering to Gov. Palin, but this wasn't malicious either. Why the uproar?"
I don't know about an "uproar". For me, it's just something I'm going to tuck away for when voting time comes. I don't know if Governor Palin is a Romney supporter or not, but I know she doesn't even make dismissive comments about him or other Republican leaders- even the ones that have made negative public statements about her (see Huckabee). It's called 'class'.
It's rare, I know.
latinchic:
Thank you for finding those comments.
Sarah was McCain's running mate at the time so she had to support his positions on immigration.
After she has studied the issue more in depth, then she should be able to come out with her own views on our immigration problems.
However, we must remember that amnesty may be a moot point by 2012. Obama and the Dems are pushing real hard to grant amnesty to as many illegals as possible. Obama says this is a priority before the 2010 elections. Unless the Conservatives really fight this, we will have some form of amnesty by 2012.
OT-
'Anotherblackconservative' has an EXCELLENT video up with Condoleezza Rice.Its called "I MISS THIS WOMAN!"
http:www.anotherblackconservative.blogspot.com/2009/05/i-miss-this-woman.html
I was hoping for either Sarah OR Condi as the VP choices last spring.
See this comes across as an unsubtle and hamhanded approach on the part of Mitt and his staff, This is not the first time, he's addressed the question, he usually refers to that apocryphal eleven million dollar book deal, or some dig at her family. The first is untrue, the second is an attack on her supporters. You might as well slash your leg and pour salt on it, when you ridicule her stated and acted upon pro life convictions
as well as the other members of the conservative coalition,2nd amendmment, anti tax activists
are concerned. Had he said
something like " we appreciated Governor Palin's efforts during the campaign, we look forward to any ideas she may provide to this on going dialogue" but no he had to go for the cheap shot.
sarah palin rocks,
If Obama gets that thru, he will have permanent control over that voting bloc. It must be stopped or modified somehow. That's why I was saying the GOP needs to get on this issue now and present another solution.
You can be sure that Governor Palin has heard what Romney said and was offended by it. He clearly was insinuating that the only reason she is on that list is because of her looks. If that isn't condescending, I don't know what it. And I agree with others on this thread that Mittens has broken the 11th commandment and did so in a way devoid of any class. Governor Palin is the only one in this who has shown any class.
Think about when we were younger guys.
What ticked off the people whom said things to you, or "picked on you".
You don't say a word or show that they gave you a rise... and what will happen is that they become more angry and show how much of a butt they really are.
Did someone tape Rush today? Let us know!
Upinak,
That is so true. I had younger siblings and when I made fun of them, I hated it when they ignored me!
check his website later tonight..
there is always a transcript of the program..
sarah palin rocks said...
"latinchic:
Sarah was McCain's running mate at the time so she had to support his positions on immigration."
That never flies with me. If you say you support something, I'm going to take you at your word. She has the right to change her mind or modify her stance later if she wants, and that's fine. She didn't agree with McCain on ANWR, and that was well-publicized. There's no reason to believe she would be afraid to disagree with him on this. She's never been one to say something she doesn't believe in order to get a vote. Malkin recognized this as well, and encouraged Palin to read her book about it. (I intend to get that soon.)
That said....immigration, though important, will not be the biggest issue for me. But it will be for many Hispanics, which I will be trying to court for Palin (and only Palin) if she decides to run. It'll be much, much, MUCH harder if she takes the Michelle Malkin/popular Republican stance. (For the record, I support Palin's stated positions, and we can debate that on another thread on another day.)
Good point about what Obama may or may not do by 2012 on this issue. It may change the entire game.
upinak, I really like/love your list of what policy positions you want in the next Prez candidate. Me too.
Regarding the good gov's supporters, I'd replace Hannity with Beck. Or maybe Cavuto. H seems wishy washy. Although C had Sanford on the other day and led off by insinuating that Sarah caved on the stimulus so Sanford was the only good guy left. That was way disappointing. Come on, C, get back with the program!
For example, on Friday's show H indicated Sarah was on the listening tour when she seems to decidedly not be. He's not doing his homework either.
'Course, Beck has made some mistakes, too, but it doesn't seem like as many ...
Has Rush ever made a misstatement about the good gov? Is he the only one who truly does his homework?
Has Gov. Palin ever slighted Mitt? I'm just asking here because I don't remember her ever doing that.
Why then does he feel a need to go out of his way to take a slap at her?
He's not Presidential material.
Rush also addressed illegal immigration in general. "The Dems already have the Hispanic vote. The GOP can't be Dem lite on this. They have to differentiate themselves." (or words to that effect.
Construction workers are hurting and illegals are taking American jobs in this industry esp.
A construction worker told Dennis Miller this afternoon that he showed a 1040 form to illegals working construction and not one of them recognized it for what it was. Meanwhile, his guys are all laid off.
There's resentment growing out there from Americans who pay into the system and get the shaft in favor of illegals.
Sarah saying the system is in place and the wall voted on tells me she's for enforcement and building the fence.
You really can't compare ANWR with immigration as an issue to disagree on. She stated on Kudlow that she disagreed with McCain on ANWR and this was LONG before she was picked as VP. However, these other issues ... immigration and TARP came up during the campaign.
ANWR was set in stone beforehand
latinchic, at the risk of sounding like a "blind Palinbot," I'm willing to give the good gov a break on the amnesty thing versus ANWR, because I believe while she's TOTALLY checked out on ANWR, illegal immigration is just not a huge problem in AK and so she's not so checked out on it and was willing to be more supportive of McCain's stance.
It seemed to me that even as the campaign went on, i.e. the Greta on the bus interview which was Halloween 10/31 very late in the campaign, she seemed to be backing off amnesty already and going for the rule of law argument. I see that as an example of being a quick study and a quick learner.
So am I a blind Palinbot or do these arguments merit giving Palin a bit of a break for initially supporting McCain's position on amnesty?
Joseph yes it was as Sarah tried to have confgress men and women and Senators come up and see ANWR first hand.
Only a few choose to do so.
As much as she's is a respecter of laws.. It's been well documented on C4P that she follows the State Const. of Alaska and state law.. I have a difficult time believing that she will disregard our Nation's laws when it comes to border enforcement and Illegal immigration..
Even though countless of other pols. have..
It's been well documented on C4P that she follows the State Const. of Alaska and state law .. Even when it is in confrontation of her own views.. I meant to add..
I am convinced Gov. palin would not have supported TARP if she had been on top of the ticket. She has said so since the campaign in subtle ways. I could also tell during the campaign that she was uncomfortable talking about it. She really had no choice but to support McCain's position during the campaign since it came up during the campaign.
Just saw this at Politico:
Palin will work with Nat'l Council
Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin plans to work with a new Republican group, the National Council for a New America, a spokeswoman said.
Palin "looks forward to doing all she can to bring about positive change many desire and deserve, across Alaska and our great nation, through this National Council for a New America and others," Meghan Stapleton, a spokeswoman for SarahPAC, said in an e-mail.
Stapleton said Palin plans to be involved with the group "as long as everyone knows that Alaska always comes first."
Palin "is focused on moving Alaska forward and pushing for her goals which include providing energy independence and security for Alaskans and Americans," she said.
The governor's absence from the new group produced, alternately, suggestions that she's "snubbing" it, and attacks on its leaders for leaving her out. Earlier this afternoon, a spokesman for Rep. Eric Cantor, who's spearheading the Council, said he hadn't heard from Palin.
"We've reached out to Gov. Palin and are awaiting her response," said Cantor spokesman Brad Dayspring, who had said the same thing last week. "We hope that in the days and months ahead, every leader on both the local and national levels will become involved in this effort to engage in a conversation with the American people about finding the solutions to the challenges they face."
Cantor and Sen. John McCain had both started trying to reach Palin before the Council launched last week, Republicans said, and the lack of communication has been seen as another sign of the gap between the Beltway GOP and one of the party's best-known figures
ShermanCT,
Awww, c_ _ p. That's exactly what I did NOT want to hear.
Looks like she's narrowing her issues--sounds like she's been getting some good advice. Energy independence and national security are excellent issues for her.
Yogi, I disagree. She'll be focused on the issues of import to her--and offering to work with anyone who is willing to give a listen. She cannot become a major player by completely ignoring other players in the party--even ones whom she disagrees with and ones whom we would prefer she not engage. They will all be "in the game," like it or not. Let the games begin!
I hear you, howlroll, and I'm glad you're happy with the decision. I am entitled to mine, and I have been consistent with my view that she has much more appeal being away from this group.
I've repeatedly said I know I'm in the minority on this, but I like her better when she's not working with the likes of Romney, McCain and Bush. I stand by my statement that I'm disappointed in her decision.
Okay, this video is pretty good.
Sarah Saving Private Mittens
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=niPi-jrZ2aA&feature=response_watch
Gonna have to find a bigger pizza place to hold their meetings when Sarah shows up.
Yogi,
I can't say I totally agree with it either but it's not like she is going to be the "leader" of the group. When she is involved she will be the center of attention and that can only help with independent and non-political voters. It provides her a forum for the people that don't read blogs like this- 95% of American voters.
It reminds me of Techno's list earlier today at 11:18 am. I would bet that most voters know nothing about any of those issues.
Personally, if it hadn't been for me sitting in a hotel room with nothing to do the night of her acceptance speech I wouldn't know about any of those issues either.
To add a tidbit to the immigration discussion in posts above . . .
Is there any school district in the US more ethnically diverse than the Anchorage School District?
"ASD students speak 94 different languages at home. After English, the five most common are Spanish, Hmong, Tagalog, Samoan and Korean. In the 2007-08 school year, for the first time, minority students comprised 50 percent of the student population."
http://www.asdk12.org/aboutasd/
ShermanCT,
Yeah, disappointment comes and goes and it's definitely not a dealbreaker for me.
Digressing a little - what does your avatar say? It looks funny!
Never mind, ShermanCT. I just enlarged it - very good. :)
Oh wow so Glenn Beck says he can't think of one conservative candidate coming up. So I guess because she took the stimulus money she is no longer conservative? What a tool.
Oh, my. It was crazy at work today so I am late to the party.
That video is so funny.
I wonder if the guv has seen it?
How can we send it to her, would have to perk her up,
hrh says: "So am I a blind Palinbot or do these arguments merit giving Palin a bit of a break for initially supporting McCain's position on amnesty?"
I won't think less of Palin if she modifies her stance on immigration, hrh. I would still court Hispanics for her if she runs. Immigration is not a deal-breaker for me. My point is, that it IS a deal-breaker for Hispanics.
Forgive me if I have not made myself clear.
Yeah, the illegal immigration issue is a touchy one, and I've been a little afraid that Gov. Palin, way up there in Alaska, might not grasp what a massive problem it's been for us in the border states. As a long-time Texan, I've actually always had a great liking and appreciation of its hispanic cultural heritage and the folks and neighbors that are part of it. But that's a wholly separate thing from the utter chaos and lowered quality-of-life that the tidal wave of illegals has wrought on our communities.
Most cite the problems on taxpayers via schools and hospitals and such, but it goes so beyond just that. In fact, when hit by a hurricane three years ago, a slew of struggling carpenters and workers from the small towns up north came down to work on roofs. They needed the work desperately. But after a week, the various outfits ditched these American workers in favor of illegals, which they could get away with paying half as much, and not have to report any of it to the government. Then, there are those 'faux' supply stores selling stolen construction materials outside garages, by illegals. Both examples of outlandish lawlessness, but police and city officials refused to clamp down on any of this criminality, not wanting to 'offend' the immigrant community.
I could cite page after page of such things, where various laws and ordinances are ignored for the sake of multicultural respect, and have led to a distinctly degraded environment. I mean, I certainly can't blame the illegals for wanting to come here, and a good many of them are fine, hard-working people. But dang, there exacting a horrific toll on us law-abiding taxpayers. It's like being squeezed to death. I'm sure certain parts of the country just don't yet have these problems, and probably dismiss this as a combination of racism and alarmism, no matter what protestations. But it's real, and it's just downright killing us, and we're seeing our towns and cities retrogress something awful. It's so shocking to see what's happened to some towns in just ten short years... quaint Mayberry-ish towns now made-over with MS-13 graffiti and whatnot. Oh well, enough. It hurts me just to recount these things.
Broadmoor: you're right on in your comments. I'm a native Texan, of Mexican immigrant parents and I have many friends that are immigrants, and yes- quite a few are illegal. I actually worked for one of the best immigration attorneys in my city. So I understand why many on both sides of the issue feel the way they do.
I still think Palin can be a very appealing candidate to Hispanics. But if she takes what Hispanics may consider the 'hardline' position on immigration (no form of amnesty whatsoever), I won't have a lot of hope courting them for her.
Not even among Hispanic evangelicals. That's just a fact.
That said....I think if she takes the so-called 'hardline' approach to Hispanics, I actually think she has a chance converting African-American evangelicals. I think she can strike a big enough wedge in that group to steal votes away from the Democrat base.
LOL! Dynamite vid.
Latinchic: The amnesty topic is about as combustible as an issue can get in my vicinity. I literally know of at least two dozen people who voted for Geo. W. Bush, and supported him, but once he started pushing amnesty, they all grew to despise him with a heated passion. Heck, I think a few of them would have tried to strangle Bush with their bare hands had the opportunity arisen. To this day, they can't even stand the mention of his name.
Various reasons for all this. Some have lost jobs due to illegals, and some have even lost friends in car wrecks due to illegals. One of those was a high-school honor-student, run down just a few blocks away from me here, by two idiots who'd just robbed a quickie-mart. Another was a mother and daughter killed coming back from church by a drunk. Anyway, the whole topic of amnesty around here is a lightning rod like no other, and I often don't doubt it could truly explode into violence.
I know what you mean. The attorney I worked for did not vote for Bush because he was against the deportation of illegal immigrants with DWI's......DWfreakinI's.
10 fascinating quotes:
1)"Much as I admire President Obama, I believe with something approaching certainty that his spending will bring this country to its knees...a $3.6trillion budget is not 'sustainable'. Doubling the national debt is not sustainable. Inaction in the face of $77trillion in unfunded liabilities (Social Security, Medicare, entitlements) is not sustainable. This is math, not ideology.
Christopher Buckley The Daily Beast
May 4, 2009
my question: why does anybody who criticizes Obama always have to start off with praising him?
And if he is right about Obama's fiscal policies appearing to lead America to financial disaster how does an intellectual like and with the pedigree of Buckley rationalize his support of the Messiah?
2)"Something else you have to understand, these people hate Palin, too. They despise Sarah Palin. They don't like her, either. According to them, she'e embarrassing."
Rush Limbaugh, today
Would the members of National Council have been more embarrassed if Sarah Palin had not agreed to join the Council as a member and if Rush is right what is the nature of the embarrassment with Sarah Palin?
3)"We prosecuted the Nazis so let's prosecute Bush."
Senator Christopher Dodd, today
Does Dodd really believe Adolf Eichmann the architect of the Holocaust that caused the death of millions in death camps deserves to be mentioned in the same breath as GWB who never had anybody killed in Gitmo? If he really does subscribe to this garbage at his age, what do the young Leftists believe should be done to Bush-hang him up by thumbs before crucifying him?
4)"The vast majority of American voters, including Republican voters, wanted change because Bush drove any hint of conservatism from the GOP agends. The change by Obama was the only change that was presented. it was definitely not the change everyone one wanted, just the ONLY one..."
HA volense May 3, 2009
Did Bush's abandonment of conservatism elect Obama?
5)"Yet,for offering a view of marriage nearly identical to that of the Democratic POTUS, she (Carrie Prejean) has been repeatedly ridiculed on the left? Do those on the left know how nasty they sound?
GayPatriotWest May 2, 2009
Why has the MSM not suggested that Obama be attacked as well for the selfsame position? Does the venom of the attack have to do more with how she was raised and the moral code she lives by than what she actually said?
6)"One of my clients was directly threatened by the White House and in essence compelled to withdraw its opposition to the deal under the threat that the full force of the WH Press Corps wouid destroy its reputation if it continued to fight." Thomas Lauria, lawyer commenting that one of his bondholder (investment bank) clients was threatened if he went through with exercising his rights as a senior creditor to Chrysler's bankruptcy
If the WH press corps actually participated in this travesty would they still be protected by the First Amendment from ensuing legal action?
"Obama's auto task force attempted to browbeat Chrysler's creditors into taking a terrible deal in order to spare the UAW union as much pain as possible. The large banks, which owe their continued existence to the $700B TARP caved and agreed to take a massive haricut on their secured Chrysler debt. But a group of smaller firms, calling themselves 'The Committee of Chrysler Non-TARP lenders' refused to play ball...holding out for the best deal in bankruptcy court...secured debtholders take priority over other creditors. The administraton's plan called for secured lenders to get in line behind the UAW."
HA Knucklehead May 2, 2009
7)"Actually some banks didn't want to (take the bailout money) and didn't need to. They were forced to by one of Timmy's (Geithner) mentors, the thuggish Paulson. He wanted all banks to take it so he could 'hide' the weak banks in the crowd and avoid a run on the weak banks. Plus he also waved the flag and intimated they would be unpatriotic if they didn't participate.
Some of these banks now want to give it back, but Timmy won't let them, as the TARP money gives Treasury the LEVERAGE TO MANIPULATE THE BANKS.
HA Wethal May 2, 2009
Why was Geithner deemed the 'only man capable in America' of dealing with this crisis?
8)"...we convert him, we capture his inner mind, we reshape him. We burn all evil and all illusion out of him; we bring him over to our side, not in appearance, but genuinely, heart and soui. We make him one with ourselves before we kill him. IT IS INTOLERABLE TO US THAT AN ERRONEOUS THOUGHT SHOULD EXIST ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD, HOWEVER SECRET AND POWERLESS IT MAY BE. Even in the instance of death we cannot permit any deviation...we make the brain perfect before we blow it out."
George Orwell 1984
submitted by HA Star20 5/2/2009
Ultimately after Obama emasculates the Constitution is this his plan for America?
9)"67% of Catholics approve of Obama's performance in his first 100 days. If the culture wars can't even deter supermajority approval among Catholics, what's the point?
Allahpundit May 1, 2009
Does a vote for Obama reflect the hierarchical nature of the RC church and perhaps a belief in its political counterpart statism?
10)"I view that quality of EMPATHY, of understanding and identifying with peoples hopes and struggles as an essential ingredient for arriving at just decisions and outcomes."
President Barack Obama May 1/2009 in describing the type of judges he will nominate for the US Supreme Court
If the commissioner of the NFL made the above criteria the standard for hiring referees and other football personnel how long do you think the owners would keep him at the tiller?
Now that made me laugh...
I'm just now catching up, getting ready for the Yukon break-up in the next day or so. It's great to catch up on a few things.
Not a fan of Romney!
OK ... um ... uh ... we're gonna do it right because that's the American way ... 'cause we're special. ---Oh, sorry, thought that was BARRY in the woods! (Ha! Ha!) OK, Mitt keep spendin' your money 'cause it's just gonna help stimulate the economy!!!!!
"You can be sure that Governor Palin has heard what Romney said and was offended by it. He clearly was insinuating that the only reason she is on that list is because of her looks.".....
I don't believe this is true. The whole thing was taken out of context. Mitt wasn't referring to GOV Palin at all. The question from the moderator was if Republicans were disappointed that only two prominent Republicans were on the list. That's when Mitt said....."was it the Top 100 Most Beautiful...or influential? We have plenty of influential Republicans out there."....and then made the self deprecating remark about overall looks. This has been blown WWAAAAYYYY out of proportion!!
psdgwd,
Aw, that's cute troll. Alas, comments like that aren't acceptable here.
I hope Sarah Palin was not stupid enough to be involved in this You-tube video or indorsed it.
Mitt was saying there should be more Republicans on the list...he wasn't insulting anyone...but I do agree...Sarah is about as "hot" as Rush Limbaugh.
Maybe what Mitt was referring to is the general opinion that, while there are Palin fans out there, considering her a leader of the party is a win for the Dems, which it would be. No matter how badly they screw up, Palin v. Obama in '12 is a win for Obama.
I guess Kabooper is stupid enough to believe Palin endorsed this video. LOL
Jay, I see you are buying the liberals talking points. Maybe you voted for Obama
Fly, No it was not blown out of proportion. If Romney really wanted to be fair he should have answered, “We have plenty of influential Republicans out there, Sarah Palin and Rush have the media on their backs so when you have the media targeting you that mush automatically everything you do or say becomes a big story, hence, influential but look we have more people out there” or something like it. But he used the word “Beautiful” that was a cheap shot.
Kabooper, seems that you still don’t get and yep, Sarah is hot. Live with it.
Jay. One week in politics can be a life time let alone four years, allot can happen in this time so don’t be too fast to predict. Just over one year ago conventional wisdom had it that the 08 race was going to be between Hillary and Giuliani, how did that turn out?
Obama now owns the Economy, Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Healthcare, the Banks and i good go on. He has a lot on his plate, if he succeeds with his policies he wins if he screws up on either one he losses. Second term elections is a referendum on the incumbent not on the challenger.
At this point Palin is strictly focused on Alaska, if and when she decides to get into the race she’ll run her campaign in her own way not by the botched up terms of the McCain camp and that’s when the real Sarah will be seen.
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