David Letterman is a Sexist Pervert; UPDATE: Gov. Palin Responds; Treacher Smackdown
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While counting down "The Top Ten Highlights Of Sarah Palin's Trip To New York" on the Late Show, David Letterman thought it would be funny to use crude and sexist terms to describe an accomplished governor. According to Letterman, the number two highlight of Governor Palin's trip was this:
2. Bought makeup from Bloomingdale's to update her "slutty flight attendant" look
Video via Hot Air:
I won't hold my breath waiting for the feminists and women's groups to express outrage over this despicably sexist "joke". As we've learned from the election last year, the rules are different for a pro-life, pro-Second Amendment conservative woman. Letterman continues to reveal himself as a pervert when he reduces a governor, a mother, and a wife to an object that he can leer at for his own pleasure.
Update by JR: It is believed that Letterman is the inspiration behind the "Herbert the Pervert" character on Family Guy:
Update II by JR: (H/T Yogi41) David Letterman also made a cruel comment about Governor Palin's 14 year old daughter:
Dave, you are a cruel and washed up hack.
UPDATE by Daniel: Governor Palin responded to Letterman today on John Ziegler's radio show:
For more information on John Ziegler's outstanding documentary, click here. You can listen to his complete interview with Gov. Palin here.
UPDATE by RAM: Check out this great smackdown of Letterman by Jim Treacher. Treacher takes on Letterman's disgusting comments about Gov. Palin's daughter Willow:
Palin brought her 14-year-old daughter Willow to the Yankees game with her.
That’s right: A state governor went to a baseball game with her underage daughter, and a national talk show host made a joke about the girl being sexually assaulted by one of the players.
I realize I’m just an inbred backwoods moron who can’t abide by any criticism of Sarah Palin whatsoever, but is this really the precedent we want to set for our politicians and their families?
Be sure to read the rest. It's vintage.
UPDATE II by RAM: Amy Siskind has a great article titled “Sexism Against Conservative Women is still Sexism!”:
When is sexism acceptable? The answer should be never. Yet for many feminists in our country, only certain types of women have been worth defending. When a conservative woman is the target of an attack, many so-called feminists stay silent. This “selective sexism”, or speaking out against sexism on a case by case basis, does not advance our national dialogue on women’s issues. Rather, selective sexism allows a dangerous level of permissible sexism to live and breed in our country. The only way for the women of this country to truly move forward is to unite and speak out against all forms of sexism regardless of party or the source of the attack.
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Or when Governor Sarah Palin’s 14 year-old daughter is the subject of a degrading and humiliating joke by David Letterman, how can we let this be part of our culture? How would any one of us feel if this comment were directed at our daughter? And if Governor Palin were Governor “Sam” Palin, would Letterman dare to make that joke?
Read the rest.
UPDATE by VO: Bruce notes that the New York Times has mysteriously censored Letterman's Willow joke from their transcript of his monologue.
UPDATE III by RAM: Letterman decided to double down on creepiness and sexism last night by making another sick joke about Palin's 14-year-old daughter. Read about it and read the Palins' statement about it here.
UPDATE IV by RAM: Some dude named Scott Martin from Examiner.com (ever heard of him? Yeah, me neither) writes a snark about how “humorless” we are at C4P. Here’s the reply I left on his article:
We actually have a great sense of humor at Conservatives4Palin. We just don't think jokes about 14-year-old girls getting sexually assaulted are funny. Maybe you do. That says more about you than about us. But it's more likely that you didn't even know about Letterman's joke about Palin's young daughter (at least I hope you didn't). If that's the case, then you didn't research the situation properly before writing about it -- otherwise you would have known that it was the reference to Palin's 14-year-old daughter that really caused the outrage.
By the way, you might try reading our website before making blanket statements about us. I don't make blanket statements about you -- like, say, you're an overpaid nancyboy who writes derivative drivel and knows jack about conservatism and isn't even witty or amusing. It would be premature and unfair of me to make such statements -- even though my personal biases have led me to conclude that most local newspaper columnists are second or third rate Maureen Dowd wannabes. You might prove the exception to the rule. And my website might prove the exception to your "rule" about sites with a "4" in the title being dry and boring and self-righteously humorless.
UPDATE V by RAM: I got a nice conciliatory email from Scott Martin. He blogs at The Patriot Room regularly. I was correct. He didn't know about the Willow joke. His column was in response to the Top Ten List.
In truth, it was the suggestion that we're humorless that hurt the most. We're damn funny, damn it!
No hard feelings. Really, I don't like it when conservatives smack each other around. It ain't right.







205 comments:
Send to Greta and or BOR they will light in on him.
He is just mad...she would NOT grace his stage..maybe he can bring Katie back and get 3 more people to watch her broadcast!
Letterman is a Epic FAIL!
I can't stand watching him and have no clue as to why people actually do. he isn't funny and I wasn't laughing at him when he had heart surgury and giggled when he said he found a new diet plan... aka heart disease he brought on himself.
He is a sleaze. I can't wait for someone to get back at him. He will probably eithe die of heart issues or a blood clot.
Sad sign of our times -- people can't tell the difference between a pretty, nicely dressed woman and (to borrow Dave's word) a "slut." They have no terms to describe the former, except to compare her to the latter.
He's an old man , he don't know what he's doing by now.
Letterman's dead to me.
Slut is the only type of woman Dave ever had a chance with.
Katie have you seen Dave's wife?
He took years to marry this poor woman.. he just strung her along. Yes he "got around" with other women.
Dave doesn't know how good he has it.
Man, it is really crowded behind the C4P woodshed today!
David Letterman, Katie Couric, a Julian person, media people galore, a bunch of Senators.
I can hardly find a place to step!
what letterman is trying to proof with his sexist remarks?
To me, Sarah Palin's style could be considered "slutty" by some conservatives, although it was not nice of David Letterman to express that on TV. Even Palin supporters have to admit that it is evident that Gov. Palin aims for a sexy look - lots of makeup, high heels, short skirts, etc. She succeeds very well at that.
Calling someone slutty is an INSULT. That does not make David Letterman a "pervert." Please, people. Sticks and stones.
Sarah... please, just because some women can wear over the knee skirts, makes up (which she doesn't wear that much actually) and blouses or shirts that FIT her body unlike the crap I see 35+ yr old wear that look like they are either trying for 18 yrs old or it looks like a mu moo. Sarah at least has taste and style. But I am not sure if you know that a pencil skirt is stylish as you probably can't wear one.
Nancy.. I have an extra pair of chest waders. If you need them. The BS is getting high!
There are several things about the world I don't understand.
Among them, why do people watch television when there is no known events worth watching?
If one MUST watch television, why do they watch nulls like Letterman.
It they MUST watch Letterman, why do think anybody else will think what Letterman said is worth knowing about?
Almost like telling me what Andrew Sullivn said.
Sarah -What are you talking about? Oh darn her dress is above the knees unless you are Taliban it is not a big deal. It isn't like she has to pull her skirt down to hide her rearend. Her makeup isn't like TammyFaye Baker or anything. She wears makeup. Big deal. So does my wife. She dress like a professional business lady often. Guess what? She is one.
Look God gave her and her husband and her children good genes. I'm sorry if the ugly stick hit most Democrat Women. That isn't Sarahs fault.
And yes coupled with other comments Letterman has made about Sarah he is a Pervert. And no Sarah doesn't dress slutty. Actually what she wears is in style.
Next you will complain about her necklace with her childrens names on it.
Amanda K - Letterman has been dead to me for a LONG time. Of course he was way before Sarah came along. His show ran out of steam about 20 years ago.
Larry... well this boatface would still like to know why you think conspiracy theories are fun.
Still waiting there Buckwheat.
When you've got nothing to attack on substance, they make personal attacks.
Color me not shocked.
Tomorrow will we see Letterman make fun of Obama's ears?
I think not.
Do they realize that every time they pull something like this, there are legions of us that go and donate money to SarahPAC just to piss them off? Because I do. Every single time they say crap like this I donate. I'm going broke.
PEC.. I can't WAIT till they say I need to wear a Burka and a Hajib (sp). Should I wear mine in gold lame? Or make it crushed velvet?
It's not just that. In the same list he calls her a bigoted xenophobe, an adulterer, a lesbian, a vandal, an anti-semite, and a crack smoker.
Dave, it's actually our current President who smoked crack. Just so you know.
Also, even worse, in his monologue, he joked about Willow, a 14 yr old girl, being raped at Yankee Stadium by Alex Rodriguez.
The man is completely unhinged and deranged. A misogynistic, hate-filled loser.
How long until NOW says something? I'm not holding my breath.
Is this where we are in America that a major natl media figure, a man adored by the press, can go on natl tv and call a woman a slut and a crack smoker, can crack jokes and laugh about a 14 yr old girl being raped by a grown man? Is this the new politics Obama preached? The new tone?
So we have the President joking about children on The Tonight Show and the other late night host calling one of the most prominent women in America a slut and a crackhead and lauhging about her 14yr old daughter being raped in public. Great.
Will the Secretary of State comment? She knows first hand how Obama and his hate-filled minions treated her and all women. So does Bill. The same minions that wore t shirts calling Gov Palin something that rhymes with hunt. Of course the press said nothing. That played 99 problems but a bitch aint one after he won in IA. That eagerly accepted the support of Ludacris and his hatefilled and violence inspiring lyrics. I hope Sarah and Hillary announce that they're running on a unity ticket to end this disaster. They'd win easily. If Lehman Bros hadn't collapsed none of this would have ever happened. Damn you, Lehman Bros.
Will CBS have anything to say? Is this official CBS policy? Condoning rape of 14 yr old girls and calling women sluts and crackheads? I'm never watching another CBS show. Period.
Governor Palin should simply issue a statement saying "Dave is right that I enjoyed not appearing on his show. I also enjoyed not watching it. Judging from his ratings, it appears I'm not the only one."
I know I shouldn't get worke dup over this, but it's just so infuriating.
He really said that about Willow?
"Also, even worse, in his monologue, he joked about Willow, a 14 yr old girl, being raped at Yankee Stadium by Alex Rodriguez."????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
Thanks upinak! Whew, I might need them.
Ssssoooooo, I think, according to that Sarah, if to some people Governor Palin dresses slutty, they might think I am a slutty dresser too.
Thinking...thinking...thinking...okay, yeah, I'm fine with that.
Letterman has never recovered from his failure to be Johnny Carson's successor. He is a bitter, bitter man. Bitter at Leno, bitter at NBC and bitter at life in general. He is a man to be pitied and ignored!
upinak, I am not saying that Gov. Palin is doing anything wrong by dressing according to her taste. She looks good.
I said that insulting Sarah Palin doesn't make David Letterman a pervert.
Thanks ever so much for the fashion lesson. :-\ whateves!!!
The troll said:
"Larry... well this boatface would still like to know why you think conspiracy theories are fun.
Still waiting there Buckwheat."
I have no idea why.
(The boat reference was an error on my part on several counts--the important one being that boats are useful, particularly the umiaks that I was making a poor pun with.
My apologies to those rightly offended.)
Larry .. first off I am NOT a troll!
Been around the blogosphere for a LONG time.
UPINAK is actually a "name" as in Up In AK as I am an Alaskan. But it is also a Native name... Upinak.
But you wouldn't know that, now owuld you?
Hmm so is Larry showing sexism?
Lets see!
"He is a man to be pitied and ignored!"
But mostly ignored.
Letterman LOVES to tick people off, so to best offset him, I remain calm----and tune him out.
....except for his sick comment re. someone's raping Willow. For suggesting that, Letterman IS beyond bratty: he's a sick pervert. Rape is NEVER a joke. I thought it was also sick when libs slammed Sarah as a W they'd love to F. SICK SICK SICK
I owuld. I ogt it. I think upinak is a oogd nad celevr srecen anme.
Blow me??? for real?
now that's a perv.
hahahahahaha love it!
Sarah.. I am sorry you think dyslexia is a problem.
Should I off myself for it?
Or should I just tell you to BLOW ME! :)
Some people seriously need to get off that high horse.
this is not the first time lettermen has said sexist things.
eesh... you have dyslexia? I apologize, upinak. I didn't mean any harm. I thought it was a typo.
Are you aware of THE NEW AGENDA...It is a group of woman that are sick and tired of the NOW organization not speaking up to defend woman.
They have a great web site THE NEW AGENDA..I comment their often regarding the protection of women.
PLEASE go there and ask them to defend Sarah and her daughter and explain what Letterman said last night.
They are mainstreaming rape as a political weapon against conservative women and their families. That Jewish actress, Sarah something started it. Playboy picked it up. Now Letterman.
I used to actually like Letterman's show, back in the 1980s, before he switched to CBS. Watched it all the time. But, wow, he just grew unbearable in recent years, brimming with grumpy bitterness. I would occasionally still take a passing glance at his show, but even that came to an end about 6 months ago, when he made some snarky jokes about the burning of Palin's church. That was such a serious crime, yet the entire media, still high on their Obama victory, made light of the whole thing. It infuriated me beyond words, and once Letterman joked about it, I vowed NEVER to watch his damned show ever again. And, I haven't. The bastard can just go crawl in a hole and die for all I care.
SarahWeddington, thanks for the comment. I haven't seen the show and I don't intend to watch it, so was focused only on the slutty remark. the Willow comment is beyond the pale. Why is everyone else missing that? If you don't mind, I'll take the opportunity and post it Hot Air. Letterman should be off the air if really made such a comment. This should not go unchallenged. Wishing rape on a 14 year old is beyond disgusting.
Wise I haven't even been on HA today. Did Ed or Allah post something on it?
"Wishing rape on a 14 year old is beyond disgusting."
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Remember Samson Obama?
He was denied entry into the UK because he sexuality assaulted a 13 year old girl.
/media silent
Yeah they have.
The Lord does not support women wearing short skirts and red shoes. It's haughty and certainly not modest. Ms. Palin should know this if she actually read the Bible. Shame on her. She needs to dress like a woman of the Lord. What would Jeus think?
No, seriously, he said WHAT about Willow???
What if he said that Michelle Obama looks like a klingon?
Governor Palin doesn't wear short skirts. And red shoes, well, all I can think is there are some redophobes out there. Not that there's anything wrong with that.
I watched the whow online and Letterman did not joke about Willow getting raped. Someone here is starting nasty rumors. Stil to truth. The good Lord expects us to at least be honest, doesn't he? Amen!
Sarah does wear many very short skirts and has many super high eels, she tries to look sexy. It's very unChristian. I don't think it helps the conservative cause for her to dress in ways that cause people to call her a slut.
She was even photographed in red pumps with red toe nails with crystals on them. What professional wheres 5 inch red shoes with red glittered toes? it's very tacky and distasteful.
Let me get this straight...
You judge Sarah about her clothes..and yet you watch Letterman...HMMMMMMMMMMMMMM?
Scratching my head on that one!
How un-Christian of you!
Is this Andree? Do you have your breast cleavage ruler out for the short skirt measurement?
I said I watched it ONLINE to see if he said a 14 year old got raped, as a 'joke." I don't even have a television in my home.
But thank you for being the judger of all. Very Godly of you.
Well, maybe using the word rape was a tad inflammatory. He didn't say "she was raped by A Rod". He said that she was knocked up by A Rod.
Now, a 34 yr old guy knocking up a 14 yr old girl is considered rape in any jurisdiction in the country. Even moreso since even there would obviously be no consent involved.
So, the rape part was my commentary/description on it. But he clearly joked about her being raped by A Rod(even if he didn't use that word explcitly). How would she end up knocked up by him? He joked about her being knocked up which would necessarliy involved her being raped. A simple syllogism or exercise of logic.
Quite frankly, any joke about any sexual activity involving a 14 yr old girl is disgusting and beyond the pale.
Now, him and his staff probably heard her daughter was there and assumed it was Bristol. Still joking about an 18 yr old girl isn't much better. And again, assuming that Bristol wouldn't be in the habit of consenting to sex with A Rod, there would have been rape involved in that scenario as wlel. Who knows maybe they knew she was 14 and said it anyway.
"What would Jeus think?"
Why don't you ask Him?
Hey everybody,
We've got a What Not To Wear PDSer over here!
His "joke" about Willow was that it was an awkward moment for Sarah Palin at the Yankees game, when, during the 7th inning, her daughter got knocked up by Alex Rodriguez.
And the low-life audience laughed and clapped.
If Sarah is to be a true Christian leader, then the least she could do is dress according, regardless of what Lettermen said. If she dressed properly we wouldn't be hearing about these comments, would we?
I also want women to dress modestly, with decency and propriety, not with braided hair or gold or pearls or expensive clothes, but with good deeds, appropriate for women who profess to worship God. (NIV, 1 Timothy 2:9-10)
Your beauty should not come from outward adornment, such as braided hair and the wearing of gold jewelry and fine clothes. Instead, it should be that of your inner self, the unfading beauty of a gentle and quiet spirit, which is of great worth in God's sight. For this is the way the holy women of the past who put their hope in God used to make themselves beautiful. (NIV, 1 Peter 3:2-5)
Letterman has said many things that have been over the line with her,I'm not going to repeat them, someone else can bring them up. This always happens, when ever we call attention to an outrage, it's an uruk hai and nazgul scrum.
Gov.Palin is always classy dressed, and she is a beautiful woman.
Mae day! Mae day!
Come on, it'll be fun!
Yeah Nancy...a "Christian PDS'er"
Is that just the most IRONIC thing in the World...I am literally..LMAO!
Larry, I did ask him, and the answer was posted above. What the Lord wants is written very clearly for all to read and follow.
I feel more people would take SP more seriously is she dressed differently. Her clothes and short skirts, expensive RNC outfits, shiny toes and shoes get more media reporting than any cause (abortion, teen pregnancy, etc.)
It would be better if they had no such issue to distract them, then they'd have to report on the event, cause, etc.
YES,.,,,LETTERMAN DID SAY THAT ABOUT SARA'S DAUGHTER....Go to CBS site and click on the right hand side for Letterman's program.
He doesn't use the word rape...he says...Palin's daughter was "knocked up" by Alex Rodriquerz.
Yup I believe it is Andree...
She is on her:
"I want a Beer and I want to see Sarah Naked Tour"... again!
Paula,
Perhpas you missed his joke about her getting knocked up by A Rod. Now, what do you call it when a 14 yr old is "knocked up" by a 34 yr old man?
According to my quick perusal of the relevant legal text, it's rape.
Maybe you have a different definition.
He was also pretty much calling A Rod a pedophile.
You stay classy, Dave.
Brother Zeb said...
"hey!"I said I watched it ONLINE"
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Why are you using the internet? It' a tool of Satan, dontcha' know?
This is very Un-Christian like behavior.
This is exactly why the GOP is losing ground. Those of you who 'claim' to be Christian are the first to tear others to shreds. Why do you think Obama won? Christians spewing hate. It's very sad to me. You can all laugh, but I think it's a terrible thing when people who claim to be Christian are so hateful. It stears people away from the faith and then they become athiests or pagans or such and hate what the Bible taught but too many didn't follow.
Letterman is a sexist and a jerk.
Better ignore him; he isn't worth the attention.
Where was that comment about Willow? It's not in the Top Ten list. Was it during his monologue. That's a serious accusation to make about him. I would like to note it if it's true, but I can't find proof of it.
SarahWeddington, please explain where you heard him say that about Willow Palin.
Letterman has become a rabid idealogue over the past few years and clearly does not like the Gov. However, I'd put money on it that he and his staff tried to get her to come on his show while she was in New York. And this is not the first time he has tried to get her on. He is notorious for smearing big names who won't come on his show, and this is part of the reason why he is so brutal towards her.
All we hear about are Michelle's arms. She probably wears less than Palin and has all these stylists traveling with her.
If you can't see the joy of the Lord on Governor Palin's face, then you are blind.
David Letterman seems to be a snarky, mean-spirited, bitter, Governor Palin hater. No matter what Governor Palin wears(and she is a classy dresser, from her head to her toes), she will be savaged. She is the dagger in the heart of everything President Obama is attempting to do, and because she is beautiful, inside and out, she must be destroyed. David Letterman is attempting to do that, albeit, on a very sewer level, but that is where he dwells. This remark and many other shots he has taken at Governor Palin show his soul problem, not hers.
Take the shots at his lowlife remarks, not her being a light to millions in this country. I guarantee David Letterman is not a light to anyone, in anyway.
R. A. Mansour said...
Where was that comment about Willow? It's not in the Top Ten list. Was it during his monologue. That's a serious accusation to make about him. I would like to note it if it's true, but I can't find proof of it.
SarahWeddington, please explain where you heard him say that about Willow Palin.
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Be careful there, I asked the same thing and was ripped to shreds.
Brother Zeb said..
but I think it's a terrible thing when people who claim to be Christian are so hateful. It stears people away from the faith
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Irony, eh?
I promise I'm not on Matt Drudge's payroll, but damn he's on a pro-Sarah/anti-CBS roll now.
Check out the latest articles. One bashing Katie for her anti-Sarah screed at Princeton and one bashing Letterman for last night's show.
Great man to have on your side that Drudge.
Actually Nancy I am blind. Using a computer with speech software called JAWS, (not made by Satan either Toki).
RAM,
Here's the video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5g8kE_g-YA&feature=player_embedded
Visit the thefoxnation.com ram.
He said that Palin's daughter who obviously is Willow was knocked up by arod.
You can come to the inference that since the child is underage that it would be considered rape.
I'm sorry, but how can you see how short her skirts are then?
I'm sorry you can't see the joy and love of life that she radiates, wherever she goes.
Go to the CBS site...click on Letterman show on the right hand side..the remarks about Sarah's daughter is near the end. This is what he said "While Sarah was at the Yankee game there was an awkward moment during the 7th inning when Sarah's daughter got KNOCKED UP by Alex Rodriquez."
I would think Alex Rodriquez wouldn't be too fond of this comment either. After all everyone knew it was Willow her 14 year old daughter that was in N.Y. with her.
DISGUSTING.
If she wasn't wearing short skirts, red shoes, glittered toe nails, or miniskirts to events in Alaska where people claim they saw her panties from the audience, then why would people always be talking about what she wore? I also didn't have to 'see' her outfits that the RNC bought her. I cannot see pictures of Michelle Obama but I know she likes to wear sleevless dresses, they write about that too, so I assume she does or they wouldn't be discussing it.
I am so very ashamed that I ever used to like this guy.
I think that Lettermann's comment is symtomatic of a wider issue about women in powerful positions. There is an assunption abroad that somehow, any women aspiring to such positions must somehow become "degendered" (if i may coin a word), in other word behave more like a man. Why? A male politician, who is tall, dark with handsome features will not seek to hide the fact. Sarah Palin obviously delights in being a women. And why not? Is there some law which says that a beautiful attractive woman, who delights in her femininity, should not seek to become Governor, or President? Next stop for the Governor--an address along these lines to the New Agenda feminists.
Family Guy Character says:
mmmmmmmmmmm---hmmmmmmmmmm
Hey little kiddie, I got my newspaper payment in my pocket. Care to reach in and get it.
I got some popsickles in basement...want one???
Get your fat ass back here kid !!!!
Patty explained it, as did an earlier post a few up by me.
A 14 yr old girl being knocked up by a 34 yr old guy is clearly rape in the books of all 50 states. Or 57 if you believe Obama. Joking about is is even worse.
Even if she was over 14, it'd still be rape as I highly doubt she'd consent to A Rod knocking her up in the middle of Yankee Stadium. Or anywhere else for that matter.
Once he already calls her a slut, a crack user, an adulterer, a lesbian, a bigot and a felon in his top 10 list it's no surprise he'd stoop even lower.
I mean, joking about the sex life of a 14 yr old girl? To quote Edward R Murrow, "Have you no decency, Sir?"
Idiot said....
Why do you think Obama won? Christians spewing hate.
Now, who is on here spewing hate? And accusing C4P of being "judgemental"?
You must read a different bible than me.
This guy is disgusting. He must be in the O'Reiley Pinheads list. Attacking a 14 years old girl, what a shameful SOB. Decent broadcasters should comdemn those remarks.
Paula,
I thought you must be getting your information from a PDSer site, just some advice, they are loopy, don't believe a word they tell you about Governor Palin. They don't "see" Governor Palin from this planet. They are in their own, little world, and I think the sky in their world is not blue either.
Brother Zeb said...
I'm blind so you have to feel bad for me, I use JAWS *sob*
(not made by Satan either Toki)
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All modern technology is a tool of Satan, fellow wanderer. You should know that. If it wasn't for the internet and JAWS, you could be worshipping God right now, but instead you're talking to me, a sinful pagan.
Shameful.
Are you sure you are reading the bible and not a cereal box?
What we need to do is elect Sarah Palin president and SOBs like this sexist animal have him eat his own $,,,,!
Paula,
YOU are a concern troll. You are cruisin for a bannin if you keep it up.
Nobody her believes you are Christian.
I'm a Christian man and Sarah DOES NOT dress slutty.
Now she wouldn't fit in with an Amish clan, but she don't dress slutty. She dresses professionally but attractively and it is PAR for the course in this day and age.
You are free to not vote for her because of her clothing or some other ridiculously immaterial issue.
But if you do, you would be making a bad move. Sarah is a very good person, and a Christian.
Get used to it.
it's even worse. not only does he joke about it. he jokes about the public having seen it and watched it.
He is truly pathetic.
He should get the Imus treatment. IMHO, this is worse than what Imus said. Imus never joked about a teenage girl being raped.
Remember how indignant Obama was and how he called for Imus to be fired? I don't suspect we'll be hearing from him.
Maybe John Coale can get Sarah and Hillary and some other women politicians to make a non-partisan statement about Letterman's disgusting misogyny and sick, twisted mind. He seems to have ceratin connections with a bunch of them.
It is time for this to stop and certain things go beyond party issues. I'd say the same thing if Sean Hannity or Rush joked about Obama's daughter being knocked up. They likely be fired immediately, or at least suspended or heavily dressed down.
If CBS had any smarts they'd fire Dave immediately, and pay Jon Stewart. He'd get better ratings at a much lower cost. He'd be just as liberal if not moreso than Dave, but he wouldn't be joking about 14 yr olds being sexually assaulted.
I wonder if A Rod or the Palins could press charges of falsley reporting a crime. Letterman as many out there do not know is it was not Bristol it was Willow that was with Sarah. HE publicly made an accusation of statutory rape, I say he has to back up this or face charges.
JAWS huh.
What not a brail keyboard and Dragon softly speak?
Like a good friend of mine has. As i know it is not as easy to put in the codes they ask for when you put in to get your comment up.
Things are really starting to get weird around here! I suppose it was inevitable. Paula &Amp:Christian&Amp whoever you are, you have acknowledged being blind. I can only suppose you are relying on others to describe Sarah's appearance to you. They are misleading you. she does not dress immodestly. she does not overemphasize her looks at all. I would gladly escort her and Todd into the Church I pastor and welcome them onto our platform. Her inner beauty and Joy of the Lord is there for all to see. as well as the modest, understated wardrobe she wears. Please don't engage in the needless gossip and destruction of a dear sister in Christ. We have too much of that already.
Okay, I'll bite:
Sarah does wear more modern clothes. However, nothing Sarah wears or says is ever "slutty."
Let's not sound like the Taliban; next thing you know, Sarah will have to shroud herself, so as not to offend someone. Bleah!
God created red, and shoes can be red and not be slutty. When I was young, little girls wore red Mary Janes, or red velvet shoes with rhinestones---and no one at our conservative church thought the shoes were slutty or unChristian.
Good Lord, we have the Taliban and al Quaeda to fight, not each other. Sarah is a sweet and savvy Christian who's been slammed big-time for it, so let's just all support her!
"Now she wouldn't fit in with an Amish clan,..."
I'm not sure that is right,
Am not Amish (nor Mennonite, nor other similar persuasion) but I have met a few, driven a big truck in their world (want to have your vanity bruised? get into a road race with a young girl driving one of those buggies!) and I'm not sure their Christian beliefs would allow them to criticize Sarah Palin.
For sure Mrs Palin no doubt would be uncomfortable, but I think that would be here doing, not theirs.
And her beliefs match what I know about theirs better than most politicians in view today.
It would be interesting to see an analysis of how they vote.
As for as I know a 34 y/o with a 14 y/o is Statutory rape in all States. We have to get this to BOR and Greta. Also maybe we can let Rudy know. He knows NY Law and see if Letterman with these accustations committed a crime.
When Obama was going around topless and the press was swooning over his "pecs" (like they were anything special), I don't recall similar treatment, that he somehow looked undignified. In fact it was quite the opposite: he supposedly looked studly. Needless to say, the double standard is...oh I give up.
Ignore the "Christian" troll. There is something called Christian left which is as rabid as any other left; I am guessing the troll belongs to the "Christian" left and is using religious points to bash Sarah. Will these trolls ever get a new trick in life?
Seriously, peddle your garbage somewhere else, Politico or AD
News, The Governor has the right convictions, the right policies, a servant's heart, an infectious enthusiasm that can't help but
light up a room.
Hey, Larry! My former prayer partner (we both moved, so we couldn't keep teaming up) was Mennonite, and she told me she hadn't been allowed to wear velvet or rhinestones----but you're right, Larry: she would never, ever judge someone else for doing so.
I liked the Bible verses you quoted, Sister Paula, and agree of course that women should not ornament themselves.
However, I remember my seminary prof, Joe Sittler, speak about the difference between the words, "ornament" (which is surface and potentially slutty), and "adorn" (which is lovely and godly).
Believe me, if you could see Sarah, you would agree that she ADORNS the world and Christian Church Universal with her beauty and grace. Truly, she's a lady and a blessing.
(Ain't that right, Brianus!?)
Paula,
Are you Andree McLeod? You sure seem to be obsessed with Governor Palin's clothing. Or are you Shannyn Moore and run around with your camera trying to get a picture up her skirt? Either way, you need to get a life.
Looks like our "concern" troll is one of those knuckle dragging Bible thumpers the Left is always talking about. Just waiting for the "a good Christian mother would be at home taking care of her children and leaving politics to the men" dribble.
Is that not a charm bracelet she wears with stuff about her kids?
HOW DARE SHE!
Ugh...
Get a life Andree or who ever you may be!
Oh CRAP...I forgot she wears a modest wedding band as well!
I've been saying that for a time now in many political web sites. Sarah Palin and Hillary Clinton gathering forces in an incredible presidential ticket.
I like to follow prophesies and what psychics have to say. And there are some accurate psychics saying that Obama will be a ONE TERM PRESIDENT (or less)and that three (3) women will be running for president in 2012.
The formidable Palin-Clinton ticket is very possible.
A presidential nominee can pick whoever she/he wants for VP. Lincoln chose a democrat. Reagan picked a moderate. McCain was thinking about picking a democrat.
When Sarah is nominee, she might shake the whole nation and the world picking Hillary as VP. Yet, the nation will be in more shocked when Hillary accepts.
This, ladies and gentlemen will be the biggest win in presidential elections history.
Imaging then, a female as Secretary of State, and defense and Head of the military.
Okay, back to earth!
Well, I am very sorry folks. I was referred to this site by my pastor who said it had many wonderful links and good dialog and that I might meet some likeminded conservative Christians.
Instead of a likeminded group, I found a group who does accept anyone who does not agree with them 100%. I was under the impression that comment boards and chat areas were for meaningful dialog, rather than attack areas where posters were theatened.
I never asked for anyones pity for being blind, and I certainly would have hoped that others who support a candidate who advocates for the disabled, that I would not be made fun of and ridiculed because I mentioned my own disability.
You have the audacity to tear down Lettermen for making fun of the Gov. yet turn around and make fun of my being blind with "reading cereal boxes" comments and making fun of my "Satanic" computer use, while you are all here online.
The internet is a way for me to meet people in a fashion that does not require me to drive, as well as offering me the opportunity to read the news, current events, etc.
I was unaware that beleiving women should dress as the Bible asks that it meant I would be booted from a site supposedly supported by likeminded conservative Christians.
Just because we support a candadate does not require that we agree with every thing they do or say -that would be a mark of a totalitarian regime. I thought that was exactly what "we" were trying to avoid by electing McCain/Palin?
Continue on, I can see your group has only one point of view: attatcking all who don't agree with whatever you say without question, and bashing the diabled.
No, apparently we don't read the same Bible.
Whatever you wish that men would do to you, do so to them. Matthew 7.12
Thank you Mountain Mama for your thoughtful and insightful commentary -exactly what I expected from a site.
My intenet was not to judge, my point was that if her clothese get so much media attention that it overrides her agenda that maybe she should consider wearing skirts a few inches longer and more conservative shoes.
It doesn't change the message or the messenger, but it may assure that her "outward appearence" is not dominate to her inner appearence, goals and abilities.
Paula.... What the hell ever!
You come onto this Thread and bash Sarah Palin right away via the clothes that she wears.
Please, I don't care if you are blind, no one does. On the internet you can be who and what you want. JAWS, a brail keyboard and Dragon Speak easy's are not just for blind but for disabled and those who can not see well enough that it has to be super imposed. I would know I have to possibly get one in a few years.
Now, that we have this taken care of. Why come on to this thread and Bash Sarah Palin... for clothing? It is petty.
What is your point?
Shannyn,CD, Andree, Mae,
Whichever one of you is typing as Paula, did you catch that Governor Palin had lipstick on her front tooth the other day!
Yep, that's right, she is an idiot, and is not put together. She just walked right out the door, and didn't realize there was another opening for the PDSers to take shots at her! You missed it!
Nah, just kidding! But you started to hyperventilate didn't you?Come on, admit it, I had you going, didn't I? You were reaching for the paper bag, I just know it! Now, go lay down for a few minutes, shake it off, and go make up some new plays for your playbook.
Sister Paula, this blogsite has conservative commenters of all stripes, not just necessarily your exact type of Christian. It's okay!
For example, many Christians can't tolerate the ordination of women, and I know I'll face slams in those groups; I've been ordained for over 2 decades. It's still okay! I see challenges as a teaching opportunity----for others, and for myself, too.
Be patient, and keep blogging----but understand that getting Sarah elected will require the support of many people, some Christian, some not, and many not YOUR type of Christian. It's all good; God can redeem it all, with our MUTUAL help and work.
Paula & Christian & Guests- the issue is not with you being blind, the issue is not with you being a Christian but the issue is that you thought this was a site for narrow minded sanctimoneous people. Perhaps you'd be happier elsewhere.
Ya know Paula (Andree)..My Mom tried the guilt thing too...Did not work so well for her either.
I grew up having things turned on me as if I had the issue...Life is what it is! You judge Sarah..but it is all our fault! HMMMMM?
And you use Christianity as a weapon of guilt! I am not sorry for my feelings..Sarah has inspired me as well as a few other folks...around here!
And you chose to focus on her "panties", clothes, and shoes..
You are the blind one and you are the petty one! I think most of us see her "inner" better than we see her "outer"...In other words..
WE GET IT!
I'm sorry you don't!
Paula, You are accepted here. But please leave the passive-aggressive self-pity stuff at the door. You Came on here judging Sarah's Christian character, based on comments by D Letterman and whoever has been describing her appearance to you. You were rebuffed, fairly mildly by internet standards, and no one mocked your disability. So, reflect on your own actions and QUIT JUDGING SARAH UNFAIRLY! That is not tolerated here! It happens WAAY to much elsewhere, and this is a safe site for people who appreciate who Sarah is and what she has to offer our Country. Honest, factual criticism is welcomed. But you better bring the goods, or else you will be smacked. Scripture also talks about Mercy being given in the measure it it is received.
I thought clothes was the topic? The top ten topic, saying she needed makeup to match her ----clothes. If clothes was not the topic at hand I would not have mentioned her clothes. The post title is that Letterman is a sexist pig (for making the clothes comment). Thus, I assumed that comment was THE topic.
Did I click the wrong comment link?
Paula,
Are you in the Taliban?
I don't know about pressing charges or anything. I wsa simply pointing out how sick and twisted and utterly bereft of class and dignity Dave must be to crack jokes about the sex life of a 14 yr old girl.
Rape is a strong word but it is what he described happening.
No need to press charges, but definitely worthy of pointing out, so we know who Dave really is. If he wants to joke about Sarah being a slut and smoking crack, and having lesbian sex with Rachael Ray(I guess we know what Dave's thinking about), as appalling and disgusting as that is, Sarah is an adult and she has put herself in the public eye. She could have turned down the VP slot and none of this would have ever happened.
But...to make jokes about sex involving a 14 yr old girl and a 34 year old grown man is so awful as to be astounding. Truly, a sick, sick mind.
That was my only point. No need to get over the top.
Goodness, we keep cross-posting, Paula!
;->
I just read your nice note, and I thank you. I'm not always as sweet as I should be----as Sarah ALWAYS is----but I know G-d wants Christians to work hard, hang in there, and reach out to people, including even craniac, dear craniac.
JUST PULLING YOUR CHAIN A BIT, craniac! (wink)
Paula, Yes you clicked the wrong link. Your system must not be working. You can go to the Huffington Post now. They want Sarah to be dressed by your standards on that page.
Cannot. Help. Myself.
What Not To Wear PDSers will only be happy if Governor Palin is wearing skirts that she trips over.
SarahW - He made an accusation of Statutory Rape. That is a serious crime. He must back it up. I expect the police of New York to do what they are suppose to and have Letterman back up this serious crime he said happened in a sworn statement. When individuals are accused of serious crimes there has to be an investigation.
jack caffery is such a loon.
Letterman was funny about 20 years ago. What a loser! I totally agree with your "washed up hack" comment.
@Paula & Christian & Guests
The right link for you is the Huffington Post .
I personally don't care how Sarah dresses, I just thought she might not get made fun of all the time is she tones it down on the public stage.
Thank you Mountain Momma for being a kind person who can have real dialog.
I do however think I will return to http://www.draftpalinforpresident.com/
where the people are not so rude and nasty.
Had I been a troll you would have proven your point in the left wings reports that most Palin supporters are hateful people. This is no way to garner supporters or represent the canidate we so admire.
So far I've read 14 comments by the transparenttrollthatsaysitisachristian. 14 times 25 is 350 dollars to SarahPAC. Maybe they can buy more supposed "hussy clothes" for the Gov!
Sarah 2012!
"Professing to be wise, they became fools.."
Romans 1:22
Alaska Governor Responds: Calls 'Late Show' Host 'Pathetic'... Developing... on the Drudge Report
www.drudgereport.com
HAVEN'T YOU ALL AND PAULA BEATEN YOUR SUBJECT TO DEATH...GEEZZZ..MOVE ON...As in most religious discussions..no one wins...agree to disagree and change the subject.
Paula, Andree, or whoever..
If you are blind...I am sorry..
but my question is...if that is the truth...than what websites are you on that gives you the information about how Sarah dresses? I have viewed many photos and video of the Good Gov...and have yet to see her in a "short skirt."...
Maybe you are on the wrong websites?...perhaps...just a thought...I'm confused!
Is there a rule that you can't wear red shoes after Valentines day or something..?
I know the White shoe thing after labor day...but I am not aware of the red shoe thing....Hell I only wear Crocs.. I have white, blue, black, and black furry ones...
I am thinking about getting a pair of red and pink crocs...but I don't want to break any fashion rules!
Can someone help me out there?
Where does the Bible say you can't wear red shoes? Plus so you know the hair cover in most christian churches of today you will be glad to know Sarah meets because she wears her hair long.
You people are some sick MFs.
If you think that sleezy bimbette hoe Palin is going to win a potato sack race you folks are off your ever lovin rockers.
The women could not speak a proper sentence if her life depended on it.
She's a fake, a fraud, a freak and a nobody. She's anti-American, anti-intellect, anti-female, tried to kill her disabled fetus before it was born (if it isn't her sleezebag daughters, that is).
She's nothing more than a national laughing stock and has a place on the evolutionary totum pole akin to pond scum. As do the rest of you wacknut losers.
Keep us laughing you stupid redneck ignorant fools. We want Palin in the spotlight for as long as humanly possible so we don't forget what a disgrace she is to our nation and the world.
Keep up the good work you bunch of skanks.
Thanks for playing, Concern Troll and Hate Troll. Donations to SarahPAC roll in every time you open your mouths.
SarahPAC gets richer thanks to you trolls. Going to donate now.
Bye, bye, troll...
RAM--be merciful--we're all God's creatures even the ass backwards ones. Just be swift in your beheading...
Dear "Me":
sleezy=sleazy
hoe = the "street" term for "whore" is "ho"
sleezebag = sleazebag
totum = totem
And in America, in most cases we show possessives with an apostrophe and the letter "S."
Now, who's anti-intellectual again?
"Sick MFs"
"sleezy (sic) bimbette hoe"
"fake, fraud, freak and a nobody"
"sleezebag (sic) daughters (sic)"
"pond scum"
"wacknut losers"
"skanks"
Again, who is anti-intellectual? That is your idea of debate? Careful, you are projecting.
Thanks for playing, but you lose.
I gather "duty troll" is a shift assignment here.
Letterman is such a creep...Palin's reaction is classy & cheerful as always - stark contrast!
Here's Andy Barr's write-up with audio at politico:
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0609/23536.html
What a weird day.What a weird thread. I guess we're moving up in the blogosphere and weird trolls and commenters are the price of growth. Oh, well! Onward and upward.
Steve, no I think it is just an odd day. I know I am having one.
Juju's right: we've talked about the religion subject enough for one day.
For Gov. Palin:
"God bless you, Governor Palin, for making a kind and wise statement re. Letterman. You immediately turned the topic to the reason you came to NYC: to support independence and research re. autism! As the mother of two who experience that condition, I thank you and call down God's richest blessings upon you and yours."
Can you imagine how positive and energetic this nation could again become, with Sarah at the helm!? Praying hard: "May it be so! (ie., "AMEN!")
Dear Me,
What?
What do you mean, what?
Well, are you talking to me.
Yes.
Okay, so, start talking.
Okay, hey Me.
Whaaaaat?
Do you think Me is kind of sewerish?
Are you talking about Me, Me? Or me,me?
Me,Me.
Of course Me is sewerish, Me comes from the hate troll department of PDS collective.
Do you think that "Me" might be David Letterman? Although, I would think that Dave would know how to spell, but you never know?
Mystery of the Universe....why do the trolls never know how to spell?
Wow..I just read this whole comment section, and am amazed at the nastiness here. I am a 40 year old female from Oklahoma and was looking for a place to discuss Palin and found this site. If some of you people changed your tone a bit, you just might get more people to join your site. As for me, I will not return here, and can only imagine the good riddances that will be thrown my way.
"Steve, no I think it is just an odd day. I know I am having one."
Is it a full moon?
Why yes, looks like it is!
I thought Palin is a Fruad.
And now we know what the PDSers want Governor Palin to wear, a potato sack! That's it! No toenails showing with that one! No red sacks though.
Ohhh--gotta post something for the trolls! The captcha is "marons"!
Shyann they can't spell because they don't need to know how in order to cash their welfare checks and use their food stamps.
OH NO! Fox Nation said that Letterman was talking about Bristol when he made that A-Rod joke.
I didn't realize Letterman made that sick joke about Willow until CP4 posted it here now. This is even more outrageous and waaay way over the line! Letterman needs to apologize to the Palins, Willow and A-Rod right now!! How bitter and mean Letterman has become!
E-Mail CBS Demanding an apology.
Carmelo Junior:
That would be the most AWESOME post-partisan ticket to win the White House and shatter the glass ceiling ever!
People are getting real sick of both parties and all these fake politicians who are messing things up!
Many Hillary supporters think that Obama will stab Hillary in the back and throw her under that big 'ole bus when Obama's foreign policy mistakes and failings blow up in his face.
Things are going to very bad on the foreign policy front. North Korea is threatening to use nukes and is holding 2 American woman reporters as hostages in their gulag. Today a luxury 5-star hotel was stormed and blown up in Peshawar, Pakistan. Israel, Iran and the rest of the Middle East is a ticking time bomb.
Obama has tied Hillary's hands. Dick Morris recently wrote that: " Obama has surrounded Hillary with his people and carved up her jurisdiction geographically....
With peers who are competitors and subordinates who can deal directly with the president, Hillary is reduced to announcing foreign aid packages for Pakistan while Holbrooke does the heavy lifting."
The link to Morris' excellent article is:
http://thehill.com/dick-morris/the-incredible-shrinking-clintons-2009-05-26.html
Here's the CBS feedback link, if any of you want to follow up and complain to the station.
http://www.cbs.com/info/user_services/fb_global_form.php
AliceBowen,say I dropped by your house in Oklahoma on the day after you had just been savagely confronted by a gossipy neighbor.Say this person had spread lies all over town about what a slut you were,and how your under-aged daughter was knocked up/ assaulted by a local jock (a lie, of course). Say that other people and news outlets in nearby towns began to comment on this. Might I find you, your family and people who knew you and supported you a little angry and vocal. Would it be fair for me to think this is how things always are at your house. So, come back back or don't come back, I don't particularly care. Just leave your judgmental attitude back in Oklahoma next time. We've had enough of that for one day!
sarah palin rocks - while I can't say that I would support a Palin/Hillary ticket I do agree that Obama has hog tied Hillary.
IMO he made her Sec to force her to not challenge him but then took away any power her position normally has. I wouldn't be at all suprised if she is blamed for the foreign policy disasters but you know he'll take any credit that comes along.
I never thought I'd say that I wish Hillary had won the Dem nomination but she'd be better than the O.
Quite odd?
It's amazing how many noob's we attracted today.
You "ordinary barbarian's" are being unreasonable. The noob's want your full attention, that you are being short sighted, in hoping the Gov. can be are leader.
I don't know about you, but I had a hard time switching from the religion lesson, to what Me had to say, and jumping right to alicebowe said, about our tone.
I have the name old for reason. Can you trolls slow it down a bit, I'm trying to figure out which name you called me, fit the best. Their were so many, I'm thinking of making a top ten list. (like Dave)
Some noob's, say they are not coming back.....
I guess we are a disgusting "cult" group.
I hope Ram is getting that compound built, because we will be shunned, if this keeps up.
Are Larry King and Letterman competing for "Creepy Leftist Pervert of the year" ?
What a couple of hacks.
Letterman doesnt know it yet...he is deathly afraid of Sarah Palin. She is a strong conservative, an effective governor, she is beautiful woman & will possibly run for office in 2012. This very notion freaks him out so, he tries to (ineffectively) get under her skin by doing his top 10 list. He and his audience think its funny, but it's sadly evident: He is an unhappy, washed up individual who makes fun of others to feel good about himself. His great dislike of Sarah Palin and hating what she represents validates his existence.
Meanwhile at the "Legion of DOOM" headquarters, Lex Luthor (after reading the polls) decides it's time to whack Palin. He orders the loons and trolls to attack all Palin friendly sites.
KOS and friends are on the march!!!
Yes, Mountain Mama about Our Sarah. She radiates beauty, grace, hope, happiness. She had that effect on me from the first moment I saw her, and it continues to this day. I used to watch letterman, but have long since dumped his show. Mark Levin did an admirable job defending Sarah on his radio show today. I should not express what I would like to do to letterman; we fight here with prayer, words, ideas. The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness knows it not (is St. John going to sue me for "plagiarism"??)
LONG LIVE OUR PRECIOUS SARAH!!!
Brianus
What else can the ol' geezer Letterer do? Put her pigtails in an inkwell?And rush home to the nude women in his National Geographic Magazine. He has to lock the door remembering how his mommy used to barge in and catch him.Poor guy like many Democrat Socialist Party memebers has lots of sexual hangups. Palin is one of his.
Letterman has been phoning it in for years. He has become increasingly liberal and political and his ratings reflect that; not only does he get hammered by Leno and now Conan, he now gets beat every night by 'Nightline' and is in danger of posting lower numbers than the much wittier fellow that follows him, Craig Ferguson.
But CBS will continue to run his show because it is relatively cheap to put on air and makes money.
Some of us are writing in such negative ways, that Sarah Palin would be ashamed we are her supporters.
If Paula and others try to make comments about her dress that aren't as laid-back as we like, that doesn't mean we have to attack Paula et al. viciously.
I mean it: Sarah would not be happy with the vicious response.
Can't we all (including me, believe it) learn from Sarah's own sweet attitudes? Let's try to give information and express opinions, without being the vicious folk that Sarah Palin is working hard to beat in politics.
It will be interesting to see if people attack me for writing this, rather than examine their own words and think again: would Sarah be proud?
(Notice that I did NOT ask anyone to think, "What would Jesus do?" Just act like Sarah would like.)
It's Bully comedy pure and simple just like kids do on the play ground... the wise kid trying to get a laugh to substantiate his leadership among the not so bright ones.
Remember, this is America today, no limits on indecency.
You live by the sword-you die by the sword, and die he will with his brand of BULLYING.... the fall is always harder for his kind. only time will tell.
When you wish that a man(A-Rod rapes a 14 year old child that is crossing the line.
Willow was with Gov. Palin not Bristol.
Who can we contact about this trash.
First off.. Sarah isn't God.
She won't judge anyone if you get upset. But I am damn sure she, like most Alaskans, will tell you to go "bite me" in out very sarcastic way.
She told Letterman he is more or less a joke.
Time to move on, email a nasty gram to CBS and get'r'done. That is all we can do... unless someone else has something they would like to come up with.
1. I didn't even know David Letterman was still on telly. Imagine my surprise.!
2. I believe he will go to his grave before the Governor goes on his show.
3. Given his age that could be as early as tomorrow.
Upinak, I love your native name.
No, Sarah isn't God, and she'll fight with understated sarcasm. But she never gets vicious or swears.
Just a thought....
Re. Letterman: Sarah dissed him, without getting ticked off or nasty. WISE move.
!
SORRY ahead of time for the long post.
I was going to stay out of this but I will make this comment.
I am a devote evangelical Christian.
I think Governor Palin dresses fine. Some of her clothes I may not wear myself, but I do not find what she wears to be offensive in any way.
"There is only one Lawgiver and Judge, the one who is able to save and destroy. But you-who are you to judge your neighbor?" James 4:12
I will not stand in judgement over anyone. I am not their judge. I have plenty of things that I do that is sin, I must focus on my sins, not tell others what I think their sin is.
"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.
Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother's eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye?" Matthew 7:1-3
Sarah Palin professes to be a Christian. She has taken heat for doing so. She references God in much of her speeches and it appears her actions are dictated by what she feels God would have her do.
The Bible is a perfect document. but many people interpret passages differently. It is a very sticky subject.
The passage in I Timothy and I Peter can be a powerful weapon Christian women use against fellow sisters in Christ.
I would say that by Biblical standards even the most modestly dressed Christian woman could be considered dressing "sexy" by what they wore in Paul and Peter's day. What exactly does modestly mean now? What did it mean then? Perhaps a true Christian woman will know how she should dress to honor her Lord. The Lord will use the Holy Spirit to guide you in your actions, including how you dress.
Sarah, I am sure, listens to that still small voice and honors her Lord. I have never seen cleavage on Sarah, I do not find her skirts to short.
The Bible also says: "And every woman who prays or prophesies with her head uncovered dishonors her head-it is just as though her head were shaved. If a woman does not cover her head, she should have her hair cut off; it is a disgrace for a woman to have her hair cut or shaved off, she should cover her head." I Cor 11:5-6
Ever went into church with your head uncovered ladies? I have. Ever cut your hair ladies? I have. You have to look at the interpretation, the Greek and Hebrew to understand what was being said and meant.
My point is, it is easy to take a verse from the Bible and use it as a weapon against someone else/ To make them appear as a sinner or a nonChristian. To use it to stand judgement over someone else.
I instead try everyday to live as my Lord would be pleased with me. I have a husband and friends who LOVINGLY hold me accountable when I stray.
To look at how Sarah dresses and decide that she is not a good Christian is standing in judgment over her. That is not what the Bible teaches.
I believe Sarah to be Godly, not perfect, but a woman who loves God and tries to live her life to honor and please Him.
I could give many more examples of these passages like eating red meat, slaves obeying your masters etc. but I think I have made my point.
I posted this on Hot Air and I hope it's okay to repost here since it's the same topic.
"This is absolutely disgusting. I can't believe CBS will allow him to get away with this. He should be fired. The only thing I watch on CBS is Survivor sometimes and I'll tell you right now never again will I watch CBS if they don't do somethin about Letterman's behavior towards Palin. I'm also contacting the sponsors if someone lists who they are.
My friend, a producer, said that Lettereman likes to play kingmaker and that this is typical of him if he gets mad. She thinks he probably tried real hard to get Palin to come on and she turned him down and this is his payback.
Another thing that has been bothering me is the way the Hill and other Leftist publications lie and misrepresent what happend about the GOP fundraiser night. It was totally the NRSC that jumped the gun in announcing Palin had accepted thier invite. She had not committed because she wasn't sure at that point she could do it. Then they asked Newt to be their keynote speaker because they wouldn't wait for the AK legislative session to end and then Palin would know. Then they re-invite her and ask her to speak and then they disinvite her again because they don't want Newt upstaged and they should look stupid but the Leftist try to make it look like Palin got miffed, is a Diva and was the cause of the problems and she wasn't. For Palin to show up after all that shows how self assured, patient and classy she is. It just makes me sick the way the Hatefilled Left treats her."
I pray for Sarah and her family everyday now. I'll pray for Lettereman like God commands as soon as I can get my attitude right.
Someone once said that one could be judged by the quality of their enemies.... To be so relentlessly hounded by the Lib-idiots, Sarah must have them scared out of their pants. Good job, Sarah
Has Obama been on Letterman? If He goes on again, should he say anything?
Who cares? Neither of these people are your relatives or friends, so who really cares? Politics is just a show.
"Has Obama been on Letterman? If He goes on again, should he say
anything?"
Who cares?
I meant really, what difference does it make.
I certainly am not going to see it.
Seems to be qan echo in here.
Hellllloooooo.....
Gov. Palin should have had her own top 10 for Letterman.
Letterman should be in hot water over that Willow comment.
Lipstick:
"The passage in I Timothy and I Peter can be a powerful weapon Christian women use against fellow sisters in Christ."
I don't believe the two concerned Christian women who took shots at Sarah or us are "sister in Christ" They are Hatefilled Left trolls dispatched to C4P to try out another Alinsky method... They are trying to hold Sarah to a standard that is impossible and for which they can then call her a hypocrite and ridicule her if she falls short... which every human will eventually.
Mountain Momma I agree with you that we should not repay evil with evil and I personally try to represent Sarah's values when I'm on this site. I don't think Sarah would respond the way some of our loyal posters do. I'm tired of this treatment of Sarah too but I've yet to become vulgar or cuss. What I do is ignore the trolls and wait until RAM gets rid of them. She eventually does when she is convinced they are here to do only mischief.
Letterman is a pathetic, smarmy, condescending hack
Check out this piece over at The New Agenda (a non-partisan women's rights group):
Sexism Against Conservative Women is Still Sexism!
http://thenewagenda.net/2009/06/09/sexism-against-conservative-women-is-still-sexism/
While the harm to Mrs. Palin, her family, and human decency is palpable, the worst harm has not been mentioned much.
Rodriquez has been accused of at least two felonies, unfairly.
David Loserman and CBS ought to be made to put up or issue a major retraction.
RAM thanks for posting what Treacher said.
Treacher is a great guy and is just neat all the way around.
What he said was true, to the point and maybe it should tick off people.
Treach thought it was Bristol until I corrected him it was Willow that Dave was speaking about. I think Treach freaked after that.
CCRWM:
I was speaking in general terms. If I had to guess I would agree w/ you that the two women in question are probably not Christians, but trolls as you said. I was trying to not directly attack anyone.
I, like you, have made it a point to not be crass or curse. Not that I am "holier than thou" because, goodness, I am not. I am a sinner saved by a perfect, loving savior who forgets my sin. "If we confess our sins He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and cleanse us from all unrighteousness." I keep the tone I do to represent my Savior in the best possible manner.
Plus I do not speak that way in person, so I don't one line either.
Also, Sarah herself keeps an upbeat tone and does not make person jabs at people. I am like that in person, like she, so I do the same on line.
I try to ignore trolls and hope they will go away. I love to come here and speak with like minded people.
I support and respect Sarah Palin. I will admit I hope she runs for POTUS and wins. I am an Ultra Right Wing Conservative and a devote evangelical. I am not perfect (ask my husband ;0) but I do try to keep a good tone although I do admit I am sarcastic at times. It hurts me when the Bible is used to intentionally hurt people. We should instead use it to edify, lift up and show others a way to a life full of joy in service to Him.
I've had an extremely busy night.
I wrote both my state senators here as well as my district congressional representative. I wrote CBS news telling them how disgusting I thought Mr. Bucktooth's comment was. I wrote Biegel telling her that her endorsement of Letterman's 'jokes' was disgusting and asked her how she'd feel if someone joked about children of interacial couples or patients with heart disease.
At first my outrage was at the 'slutty' comment on the top 10 list. But when I learned that he made a disgusting joke about Alex Rodriguez knocking up Governor Palin's daughter (in this case, he was referring to Willow clearly, since she went), my outrage went Nova.
I am always amazed and impressed at the level of calmness by Governor Palin with regards to this disgusting lecherous pervert. If someone said that about my daughter, I'd make sure that they could only drink through a straw the rest of their life.
This is proof positive that liberalism is a disease.
"Has Obama been on Letterman? If He goes on again, should he say
anything?"
He was on last year. Heard it was closer to a 1:00 am soft porn movie on cable than an acutal interview. Letterman blowing Obama for 15 mins. Could explain the gaps between his teeth.
Hey, guys. Moe Lane linked you:
http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/2009/06/09/david-letterman-jokes-about-alex-rodriguez-raping-willow-palin/
Cheers,
- JP
Like most in the entertainment industry, Letterman is a pig!
You can leave comments on this Sarah Palin "Top 10" list.
Go leave a comment, and let him know how ridiculous, sexist and washed up he is!!
http://www.cbs.com/late_show/the_ten_spot/video.php?cid=518893744&pid=Deg29qSvX_nvlHF1iVF3miN3lzpNnoXT&show=all&offset=0&play=true#formCommentlink
This is probably old news.
http://www.politico.com/blogs/michaelcalderone/0609/Palin_stops_by_CNN.html
Hey Leave Letterman alone, he is dealing with a serious issue.
http://minx.cc/?post=288358
Ace os spades website
The only thing that was funny about Letterman’s little rant is the fact that the more loud mouthed goons like him try to savage Governor Palin and make her the butt of their lame jokes, the more they help to rally people to her cause.
I thought conservatives could take a joke? It's Letterman not NBC's Brian Williams saying this.
The guy is a comedian who does a late night talk show.....what are we whining about?
He talked about Bill and Hilary Both on his show and those jokes were far harsher than this.....please, get a spine!
Agreed. There's lots of sexism in the media. For example, everyone is talking about whether Sotomayor will let her "emotions" influence her judgment. I don't recall the media saying the same things about Alito or Roberts when they talkied about how their experience informs their judging.
There is plenty to criticize about Palin without crossing the line into sexism (like bragging about collectivist ownership of natural resources nd in the same breath calling others "socialist), but it's nice to see conservatives taking note of the things feminists have been talking about for decades. Maybe the right will stop vilifying feminism.
Sarah can take care of herself.. of that I have no doubt! What Ziegler did NOT know about at the time was the "Willow Issue".. then all bets are off...
SARAH GET YOUR GUN!
For those saying that Conservatives should lighten up about this because Letterman has made similar jokes about the Clintons and other prominent Democrats in the past and that proves he is an equal opportunity offender, All I can say is if that was truly the case than whey isn’t he making wise cracks about the Obama's?
To Hellrider:
Will have to wait to Obama does something he can make fun of. Conservatives can't even crack funny jokes on this guy yet.
Clinton was a womanizer, Hilary had the rolling pin in hand persona and Sarah the sexy mom.....Pelosi, Reid Gingrich, Limbaugh etc all have been made fun of by Letterman.
Obama has been guarded and trying his best to be perfect, he will get burned by Letterman sooner or later, and I voted for him.
Relax guys Letterman does this all the time, that's who he is.
This left vs. right stuff goes to far way to often......it's a joke by D a v i d L e t t e r m a n, have you ever watch the show? This is what he does.
This is not like that Playboy crap a week ago. Stuff like that was denounced by both sides, this is harmless.
This is not like that Playboy crap a week ago. Stuff like that was denounced by both sides, this is harmless.
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"Joking" about the rape of a 14 year old girl is harmless?
Buddy if you think Obama hasn’t done anything that comedians can make fun of yet then you must have been living under a rock for the last six months. Every other day Obama and his goons at the White House do something worthy of a good roasting at the hands of the likes of Letterman yet he chooses to make jokes about raping a fourteen year old girl.
Seriously if George W Bush had made half as many bone headed mistakes that Obama has made in the last six months while he was President the guffawing from comedians like Letterman laughing at their own lame Bush jokes would have been deafening.
The reality is that none of these so called comedians have the balls to tell an Obama joke because they are all deathly afraid of being called a racist and potentially falling out of favor with the left wing ideologues that control the MSM and influence popular culture.
Debtstar: "He's an old man , he don't know what he's doing by now."
Dave may be an old man but he acts like a petulent child and not worthy of my valuable TV viewing time.
I have never been able to appreciate how people can consider him as funny. He has always been decidedly un-funny and classless to me.
Leno beats him hollow and is classy at the same time.
My 2 Cents
The more they attack Palin and her family the more money I donate to her.
Its all about Fear! These never ending low blow attacks tell us who they are and what they fear. Why fear a Gov of a state that has less population than most medium sized cities? They are fearful, she kept the bleeding from being more that it was,they are fearful. They saw what she has done up in Alaska, and they are fearful. Winners don't do this sort of thing. And as for her looks, and style. Looks pretty good to me, my only question is what is her favorite Moose Rifle and what fly Rod she likes. Pure class any way you slice it. And she flies too.
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