Kerry (D-Vietnam) Flip Flops on Joke
WAPO reports:
Kerry's spokeswoman now tells The Sleuth the senator really didn't mean what he said, though his clarification would hardly qualify as an apology.
"We stand corrected, the truth is every Democrat hopes Governor Palin is in the public eye for a long, long time, especially on the 2012 presidential ballot," Kerry spokeswoman Jodi Seth says. "Lately it's been Vice President Cheney that everyone hopes would lose the cameras and go for a long leisurely hike on the Appalachian Trail. And good grief, if anyone thinks John Kerry is afraid of strong, smart women, they sure haven't met his brilliant wife and two independent daughters. It sounds like getting crushed these last two election cycles cost some of these Republicans their sense of humor."
So, you are admitting that Governor Palin is a "strong and smart woman"? The whole statement is a flip-flop. First they want Governor Palin to run for president (because she must be a "weak" candidate) and then they say she is a "strong and smart woman." Candidates who are "strong and smart" usually end up winning. Wow.
I think that the junior senator from Massachusetts may be requesting a purple heart (will he throw this one away too?) due to Governor Palin's witty response to his original joke. I think it may have drawn blood.
If liberals are so secure with their sense of humor, why do they always end up apologizing? Oh, that's right -- because their jokes are always tasteless and need clarification.
Governor Palin has a fine sense of humor. Kerry joked about her and she returned fire and her audience seemed to enjoy it tremendously.
You can learn something from Governor Palin in the way she treats and respects the military. The military has a great sense of humor, except when you do what Kerry did and trash them. However, I do not think that the military is too fond of trashing special needs children and talking about professional baseball players "knocking up" 14 year olds. Liberals always need to "explain" their humor after it backfires.
Update: Is Kerry the first "Palin Democrat?"
"We stand corrected, the truth is every Democrat hopes Governor Palin is in the public eye for a long, long time, especially on the 2012 presidential ballot," Kerry spokeswoman Jodi Seth says.
Democrats are already second guessing Obama and looking to change the party in the White House? (H/T Anonymoose)
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Well he is...afterall...the "KING of the FLIPFLOP!"
This statement is just another slight towards Gov. Palin...only in the other direction.
Sen. John Kerry (D-Mass.) would like to amend that little joke he made earlier this week about Sarah Palin when he said he wished it had been the Alaska governor who had gone missing instead of South Carolina Gov. Mark Sanford.
"Too bad, if a governor had to go missing, it couldn't have been the governor of Alaska. You know, Sarah Palin," Kerry told a group of civic and business leaders on Tuesday, according to the Boston Herald. That, of course, was before he and the rest of us learned Sanford had lost himself in Argentina with his secret mistress.
Read the above carefully...isn't this a lie?? They are claiming Kerry didn't know about Sanford missing when he made the joke..Duh
What other governor has gone missing lately? Of course he knew.
How could they make such a stupid statement. The above was taken from the Sleuth article.
I hope Gov. Palin doesn't reply. I think Kerry has dug a hole where none was needed.
So let me get this straight. Kerry makes a bad joke directed at Palin. Palin fires back with her own joke. Kerry releases statement to clarify, but really it's a backhanded comment clearly indicating he's irritated. And yet Palin is the one who can't take a joke?
Oh, and Kerry is ever still the worthless flip-flopper: "I said I wanted her to go away because I can't stand her. I meant I wanted her to stay because I can't stand her. And I voted for the 87 billion before I voted against it." Priceless.
LOL what the hell kind of statement is that!?!
That is not blood. That is ketchup on JF Kerry. Mrs. Heinz was miffed. JF Kerry was paying attention to another woman. Ketchup pays his bills. He had to make amends. Follow the money. Watch out for ketchup.
JF Kerry does not want the fate of the gherkin pickle.
JF Kerry might be retired at any time.
All Mrs. Heinz has to do is give JF Kerry the gherkin pickle stare and whisper " gherkin." JF Kerry salutes and tells the world about wonderful Mrs Heinz.
That is called, "staying on message."
http://www.heinz.com/our-company/press-room/press-releases/press-release.aspx?ndmConfigId=1012072&newsId=20090116005716
http://www.businesswire.com/portal/site/heinz/template.PAGE/menuitem.d178cd749ed9c5f79ca8e410e6908a0c/?javax.portlet.tpst=4364db86be4303bcce5b57e7d89721c8_ws_MX&javax.portlet.prp_4364db86be4303bcce5b57e7d89721c8_newsLang=en&javax.portlet.prp_4364db86be4303bcce5b57e7d89721c8_viewID=multimedia_detail&javax.portlet.prp_4364db86be4303bcce5b57e7d89721c8_contentGroupId=1745426&javax.portlet.prp_4364db86be4303bcce5b57e7d89721c8_ndmConfigId=1012072&javax.portlet.prp_4364db86be4303bcce5b57e7d89721c8_moduleId=367929115&javax.portlet.prp_4364db86be4303bcce5b57e7d89721c8_beanID=367929115&javax.portlet.prp_4364db86be4303bcce5b57e7d89721c8_newsId=20090116005716&beanID=367929115&viewID=multimedia_detail&javax.portlet.begCacheTok=com.vignette.cachetoken&javax.portlet.endCacheTok=com.vignette.cachetoken
The next time you see Heinz Ketchup think about JF Kerry, desperate to avoid gherkin status, saluting Mrs. Heinz as he tries to compare her to the incomparable Sarah Palin.
It is impressive that c4p was able to obtain a photo of the Heinz couple taken just after Mrs. Heinz whispered "gherkin" in his ear.
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_YICBAWVh6w8/SkZexR_xZhI/AAAAAAAACFM/NMhsabrx418/s400/automotivator(2).jpg
Russo,
Can we get a post about how Obama failed to visit the wounded troops at the hospital last year in Germany?
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2008/07/24/obama-snubs-injured-soldiers-workout-will-media-care
Contrast it with where the 'Cuda is going today.
Here are the links included in Newsbusters:
http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/politics/blog/2008/07/barack_obama_us_troops_germany.html
http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/0,1518,567821,00.html
I hope if Politico reports this that JR will issue a brief statement from C4P about the Kerry comment where he "misspoke" (lied) he knew nothing about the Governor Sanford missing..yet his joke states. "I hope if a Governor goes missing......
Russo,
Ed did yeoman's work on the Obama did not visit the troops story:
http://hotair.com/archives/2008/07/24/competing-optics-cheering-germans-or-american-military/
Tip to Kerry:
Think of it. Had you said something like the following, instead of your above blather, you might have gained some mileage (but of course, your didn't have the ability for that):
What Kerry might have said:
"Yes, I'll confess disappointment that Gov Palin didn't go missing -- it's no secret that we Democrats would rather not face that tough lady 2012."
Now, consider what response that might have garnered Kerry?
I think all Kerry was trying to do is get some attention. No one pays any attention to him otherwise. He knew that if he made some sort of crack about Gov. Palin, it would get reported. Wishing someone was missing is not my idea of a joke.
This column by Creative Minority Report is a good take on Kerry's crack:
http://www.creativeminorityreport.com/2009/06/sarah-palin-as-rocky-balboa.html
Two things:
1. When I first read the statement that Kerry hopes Palin is around for a long time and on the 2012 ticket, I thought it was an insult. I've run into alot of Dems who say they want Palin on the ticket because they think she's incompetent and they can so easily beat her. Maybe it wasn't an insult, but that's the first thing that crossed my mind.
2. I think Palin's jab back was a sign that she does have a sense of humor. It was a good-natured jab back, not a campaign to have Kerry shunned forever. I think it's this Kerry spokesperson who doesn't have a sense of humor. Palin's line back was hillarious.
That is all.
A, That was hilarious, ketchep :)
You just gotta roll your eyes at this.
WHAAAAATTTT!!! You're making fun of a decorated war vet? How outrageous!! What are you thinking!?! Isn't this what is called being a "hypocrite?" Just wondering. Oh, what's that? You say it is parody? Oh. ok.
Uffda,
It was clearly an insult. I don't think Russo is discounting that.
However, later in the statement, he does seem to concede that she's a "strong" woman by claiming that critics were arguing that he's afraid of strong women.
How can we really expect a known limp dishrag, who has the personality of a sponge, to understand any type of attempt at humor he might make. He can't talk himself out of it, because he's never been near a punchline.
I, mean, this is a stretch for the man.
Kerry joking is a quagmire , he got swifted again. Now crying "she hit me back".
Why the long face..
Whoa,
Nobody views Kerry as a "decorated war veteran." He's one of the most unpopular nationally recognized politicians in America.
http://www.pollingreport.com/k.htm
More people view him as a traitor to his country than a "decorated war veteran." Notice how the troops loved Palin taking a dig at him? They don't view him as a "decorated war veteran."
Whoa Baby,
Now who can't take a joke?
Whoa, Baby and a clue, really need to meet sometime.
TommyReport,
Only in your small world. There is a whole generation who sees him as a decorated war hero who stood up and spoke out against an unjust war, er excuse me, police action. He had the courage to publicly stand up for what he believed. He walked the walk and talked the talk. What about you?
Whoa,
You have a poll to prove it? I've got data...you've got hot air. There is no generation that supports Kerry except in your own head.
Uffda, what? You couldn't see my tongue in my cheek?
Whoa ,...you may soon go the way of DDJ...Don't you remember Kerry's
horrible report to the Congress about all the terrible things our troops were doing in Nam. And, guess you forgot he threw those purple hearts over the White House fence. That tells you what he thinks of the military.
He does not and will not get the respect of many military people.
My husband just happened to be a swift boater in Nam too, and I can tell you even then they didn't think much of Kerry.
Boy are you right about the Gov's incredible wit! I hear even Letterman thought it was so funny that he told the same joke!
Hey! John Kerry!
Open wide and INSERT FLIP-FLOPS! :)
Another day, another democrat apology.
Time to keep records.
Letterman 2
Kerry 1
next...
There was really no reason to get upset about any of this. I think Kerry overreacted to Palin's line. These libs just aren't used to people poking back.
Whoa,
Nope. Kinda hard to pick up inflection in print.
Be careful on the Kerry timing. IIRC, he said it when the story was "hike on the Appalachian Trail", before it was "Argentina mistress."
They are different, and make the insult different.
The "missing" story could have been "died." Until the outcome was known, jokes took that risk.
But, it was never a "joke." It was always an "insult." It still is an "insult."
JF Kerry thinks an insult is a joke.
Breaking News!
John Kerry just attempted to throw himself under the bus, but as he does at most things, he failed miserably. Apparently, he was trying to clarify something he said, that no one would have noticed without the words "Governor Palin" in it.
As a consequence, Governor Palin tweeked him in the ribs, and he immediately went out and threw himself under the bus. But, he tripped while running toward it, and fell, breaking both elbows. The doctors are attempting to attach funny bones, right now, so he can understand humor in the future.
He's quoted as saying, "I look forward to being able to "get" a joke, instead of laughing in a group, just so no one will know, that I didn't get the joke. My wife has graciously accepted paying for this procedure."
His face was not hurt, so there are still plenty of jokes out there to use on him, and maybe he'll actually get them this time.
Now back to C4P regularly scheduled programming.
It is one thing to speak ill of the military and what you may or may not approved of when the war is over, but to do it while there are still soldiers in harms way...doesn't turn many military people on.
Any way he lied about his joke:
Go back and read my posts at 2:24 and
2:35. Quoted from the Slueth article.
I voted for the joke before I voted against it....
J.K.
Uffda, exactly and so you seem to have missed Kerry's tongue in his cheek as well. It is a real stretch to think he was upset by Palin's remark. As for libs not being used to people poking back, are you kidding? Are you seriously kidding? After 8 years of Bush/Cheney/Rove? Puhleeeze.
Nancy,
You're crazy. In a very good way.
Great Nancy
Whoa Baby,
what statement did you read? And I'm assuming there was some tongue in cheek about that Bush/Cheney/Rove thing, because that's just too unbelievable to be a serious statement.
"We stand corrected, the truth is every Democrat hopes Governor Palin is in the public eye for a long, long time, especially on the 2012 presidential ballot,"
So it's true, the Dems are souring on Dear Leader already.
Ha Ha,
the governor can use this endorsment as a running gag until election day, John Kerry said so, the first leading Palin democrat.
It is a real stretch to think he was upset by Palin's remark. As for libs not being used to people poking back, are you kidding? Are you seriously kidding? After 8 years of Bush/Cheney/Rove? Puhleeeze.
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Above comment by Whoa: Do you have a problem with reading and getting your news straight?? Bush rarely fought back on comments people made about him. In fact, even the Republican party was upset by him, because he never responded. That is why we are not going to let it happen again. WHERE DO YOU GET YOUR INFORMATION???
Why would Kerry feel it was necessary for his his spokes person to respond if it didn't upset him. Duh. Both jokes by both of them was harmless and funny..End of story...or so we thought. Except of course for the lie in Kerry's statement. He didn't know about a Gov. being missing...DUH
I can't believe Kerry felt the need to release a statement that relates to joking back and forward. This guy is a dork.
Somebody needs to remind this guy that the only bright spot for the republicans in 2006 was Gov. Palin getting elected as Governor of Alaska.
I still can't believe he felt the need to release a statement.
JeanA , he doesn't know the first rule of holes , stop digging.
JeanA...I agree with you. I think Kerry was taken back that Gov. Palin had a almost immediate response joke back to him. LMAO Isn't this what the dems like to call whinning?
Who is the "we" in we stand corrected and who corrected them? This whole situation is funny and bizarre.
You know why Kerry felt he had to apologize. The Obama war room told him he had gone off script by mocking Palin personally which the Obama war room never does. What the latter does of course is try to destroy her in an insidious manner using any means at its disposal to destroy her, but never does it resort to Obama making fun of her. Sarah is just too sharp as she proved with Kerry.
And secondly by Kerry making fun of her it just drives SarahPAC donations up even more and strengthens her hold on the base of the Republican Party, because the base figures if an ex-presidential candidate like Kerry has to pay Palin special notice something must be amiss in Democratic land to make him single Palin out for special consideration. Yes, Virginia, perhaps Palin is a threat to topple the Messiah in 2012.
We is OBAMA's group..you know the ones..His hit men.
Thanks for the H/T, OPG of the GOP.
Well here's an interesting photo of John Kerry I have never seen before.
http://tinyurl.com/n5xyru
Oh now I see who the "we" is referring to. Never mind.
Sarah should let her spokeswomen also declare the neither she is afraid of strong women , and would like to see Kerry's face for a long ,long time especially on the 2012 ballot.
C4P should headline a story about Kerry endorsing Gov. Palin in 2012. It would get picked up by Google Alerts, and undoubtedly spread to other blogs, and maybe some papers. It would then force him to make yet another clarification of the original clarification that was meant to clarify his joke. It would make him look even more ridiculous than he already does.
Let's face it. Sarah has decided to not be anyone's punching bag anymore.
If she knows of something said about her she will make a joke or comment back if she decides she wants too.
The left is going to whine about it because they are used to being the little sister or brother who always hits the older children and because they are the youngest mom lets it slide. Sarah has decided to hit the little slots back. Now they are saying "mom, she hit me back..."
Sarah is a big girl and has decided to stick up for herself, if they can't take it, then don't dish it out.
Also I think Sarah is tired of anyone who wants a bit of air time using her name.
Sarah needs to tell the libs.."sorry , don't mean to be bitchy but since YOU started it..."
Greg...I love it...Techno...right on the mark.
Juju, "He does not and will not get the respect of many military people." I'm guessing you live in a small world of mostly conservatives. Perhaps I'm wrong. I live in a conservative world too, so let me share something with you. I'm actually the wife of a retired army officer of Kerry's generation. I live in a military town and have at least three neighbors who were in Viet Nam. It isn't politically correct for a military person to publicly speak out against the government, especially in this town; however, privately is a different matter. Every one of these people, including spouse, and other military friends is still jaw-clenching angry about Viet Nam. Without exception, they love their country, but are not too blind to see what a gigantic fiasco it was on so many levels. As for horrendous things done by some of our troops, yep it happened. Happening now. War can do serious psychological damage to otherwise God-fearing, decent people. The military machine is very unresponsive to providing the psychological help that some troops need. I applaud Kerry and others like him who were not afraid to speak out. There is another perspective and experience out there, Juju. That experience is just as authentic as anything you may know.
THough he never said Dick Cheney in the Joke he did get one thing right and that is calling Sarah a Strong Smart woman.
Baby, the problem is that Kerry was bashing the soldiers.
LOL, JR! When I read that excerpt you posted above, right away I saw "strong, smart woman." It just made me smile. =)
Ben Smith at Politico would run with the announcement that Kerry endorses Palin in a heart beat.
Can't you just see it?
"Kerry's spokes person announces today that Senator Kerry doesn't want Gov. Palin missing like the other Governor that was missing last week. Instead, Kerry gives Palin a thumbs up for 2012.
Gov. Palin could not be reached for a response to Kerry's thumbs up for 2012, because she is in Germany visiting wounded warriors.
Trouble Brewing in Democrat Party over 0bama Overreach:
In a bold move, John Kerry, through his spokesperson, Jodi Seth, declared that Gov. Sarah Palin is a "strong and smart woman" and that "every Democrat hopes Governor Palin is in the public eye for a long, long time, especially on the 2012 presidential ballot."
It is not known whether John Kerry is, in fact, leading a "Democrats for Palin" movement at this time, but unnamed sources within the Democrat Party have hinted that this is the case.
Debtstar, that wasn't my take on it, but it has been a long time since I heard the testimony. I will review it later today and respond. I do know the people of whom I spoke do not believe Kerry was wrong in his testimony. One must also consider the context in which the testimony was given. This was a decent young man who had experienced the unspeakable horror of war. I am sure that his concept of what the world was and should be had been shaken to the core. If he had held back his testimony for say ten years after he had time to process his experiences, I'm sure it would have been framed differently. Admittedly, I tend to give slack to those who have experienced and lived day after day a horror that I can barely imagine.
juju:
What I think a lot of people including some readers and posters at C4P fail to understand is that like with the expression 'all roads lead to Rome', all insidious efforts, schemes and plots to destroy Sarah Palin through mockery, smears, lies, deceit, disinformation and propaganda directly or indirectly all lead back to one place: the Obama war room. Never forget that Obama and his merry men and women are evil and you'll begin to understand why certain events are occurring.
From the perspective that he wants her to go missing it was either a. Too big of a threat for '12. b. He wants a mother of 5 to go missing speaking to the character of the Dem Party.
Whoa...tell that to someone else..that will believe you. The military has always been strongly for the Republicans...and, more importantly the Republicans have always been for a strong military. I can't waste time or space with you. The ONE has never even been to see the wounded in Germany. And he was there too...he just didn't go see the wounded.
PEC, it was joke. Period. Not "A" nor "B". Get over your false outrage. Her response was also a joke as was his response to it. Stop trying to make it into a fight.
Baby , Kerrys need to "clarify" through his spokeswomen shows that at least he thinks it was more than a joke.
Juju, it seems you have gone off on a tangent about Republicans, strong military and Obama. I never denied anything in your second sentence. You are absolutely correct. I am telling you the very real, private feelings of many people in the military who were in Viet Nam, particularly the enlisted men and women. Over the years, I have taken the time to do a lot of listening to these people with whom we socialize, have as neighbors, and with whom I teach. The anguish is real, Juju.
Greg @ 3:49PM -
Your comment made me LOL!!!
YES, we should post a topic saying Kerry endorses Palin for 2012!
What really burned poor Johnny Long-Face was that she delivered it to serving troops, and she got a big laugh! They got his number when he insulted them back in '04.
And, notice that he had his staff spokeswoman deliver the reply. Guess he didn't want to get burned again! Guys like him take a risk every time they try to be funny.
How stupid does he think we are?
Obama, Kerry, where in the world do they get the idea they can recant, revise, change and re-write events words and meanings from their very mouths.
Kids do it until they are taught different by loving parents..... WHERE WERE THEIR PARENTS?
Such CRAP! ......" It is, what It is" Elitism, Narcism, or whatever describes the sense of entitlement, Im me and you will never be me, you classless barbarian, I will do anything I want, anytime I want, and to anyone I want, and us barbarians just better accept It and sit down and shut up!......
John Kerry and all alike, WE ARE NOT SITTING DOWN AND NOT SHUTTING UP, NEVER, NEVER, NEVER.
Whoa..I am not doubting you about your comments. It is Kerry we are talking about and his comments to the Congress were not good. Like I said my husband was in Nam, and he was a swift boater, he was shot in his back, and lost part of his finger on a rope accident on the boat. He did not know Kerry, but he
was serving at the same time and the same area and he has always said that the boaters did not want to be under Kerry's command. In fact, during the Bush/Kerry election he contacted the Swift Boaters and volunteered to go to
DC and be a part of them against Kerry.
When you came here it was to jump on us for making fun of Kerry, a war hero, which is stupid statement,that you can't tell a joke because he was a war hero. Now you are claiming that both Palin and Kerry were joking. At least we haven't taken his pic and put a different head on.
TECHNO: You hit the nail on the head..completely agree.
If there is one thing that you might notice about the Obama regime-it is they are not into humor or telling jokes.
And the reason is quite simply when the joke goes bad, the teller of the joke is forced to apologize and lose face. For the Obama war room this is an egregious sin and an unforced error it wants no part of. Thus the Kerry apology or explanation.
Believe me, Obama's war room has got at least 200 people right now on the 'personal destruction of Sarah Palin' project brainstorming like crazy to come up with a scenario that isn't water off a duck's back for her.
Of course they'd love to go personal with her, but how can you when she's led a perfect life, has remained faithful to her husband and doesn't beat her kids!
Attack her through her kids and intimidate her. That doesn't seem to have worked. Sarah is still standing upright and is stronger than ever, politically speaking.
What Obama's war room might have to resort to is ordering the MSM to artificially prop up Huckabee and Romney by showing both of them lots of love and that they are the greatest politicians since sliced bread. That could prove self-defeating however if one of them ends up beating Obama in 2012.
But believe me Obama's war room will come up with something. it always does.
Greg, June 27, 2009 3:49 PM --
Wait a second . . . you mean he wasn't endorsing her?
whoa baby - So Dems believe it is a joke for a mother of 5 to go missing? We now know their moral system.
Put another one in the win column for Saracuda. Her joke was a funny rejoinder to Kerry's weak attempt at humor. Kerry's second clumsy stab at being funny proves it.
PEC, get real. How in the world did you come up with that? Too bad I can't see your body language to see if you are joking. That's the problem with the internet.
Did John Kerry serve in Vietnam? He sure kept quiet about that. (sarc.) This is an oldie but a goodie from the 2004 election.
JOB APPLICATION
NAME: John Kerry
RESIDENCES:
7 mansions, including Washington DC, worth multi-millions. I served in Vietnam (four months).
EDUCATION AND EXPERIENCE:
Law Enforcement. I voted to cut every law enforcement, CIA and defense bill in my career as a U.S. Senator. I ordered the city of Boston to remove a fire hydrant in front of my mansion, thereby endangering my neighbors in the event of fire. I served in Vietnam (four months).
MILITARY:
I served in Vietnam (four months). I used three minor injuries to get an early discharge from the military and service in Vietnam (as documented by the attending doctor). I served in Vietnam (four months). I then returned to the U.S., joined Jane Fonda in protesting the war, and insulted returning Vietnam vets, claiming they committed atrocities and were baby killers. I served in Vietnam (four months). I threw my medals, ribbons, or something away in protest. Or did I? My book; Vietnam Veterans Against the War: The New Soldier shows how I truly feel about the military. I served in Vietnam (four months).
COLLEGE:
I graduated from Yale University with a low C average. Unlike my counterpart George Bush, I have no higher education and did not get admitted to Harvard nor graduate with an M.B.A
PAST WORK EXPERIENCE:
I ran for U.S. Congress and have been there ever since. I have no real world experience except marrying rich women and running HJ Heinz vicariously through my wife Teresa. I served in Vietnam (four months).
ACCOMPLISHMENTS:
As a U.S. Senator I set the record for the most liberal voting record, exceeding even Ted Kennedy and Hillary Clinton. I have consistently failed to support our military and CIA by voting against budgets, thus gutting our country's ability to defend itself. Although I voted for the Iraq War, now I am against it and refuse to admit that I voted for it. I voted for every liberal piece of legislation. I have no plan to help this country but I intend to raise taxes significantly if I am elected. I served in Vietnam (four months).
My wealth so far exceeds that of my counterpart, George Bush, that he will never catch up. I make little or no charitable contributions and have never agreed to pay any voluntary excess taxes in Massachusetts, despite family wealth in excess of $1 billion. I served in Vietnam (four months).
I (we) own 28 manufacturing plants (Heinz) outside of the U.S. in places like Asia, Mexico and Europe. We can make more profit from the cheaper cost of labor in those Countries, although I blame George Bush for sending all of the jobs out of Country. I served in Vietnam (four months).
Although I claim to be in favor of alternative energy sources, Ted Kennedy and I oppose windmills off Nantucket and Martha's Vineyard as it might spoil our view of the ocean as we cruise on our yachts. I served in Vietnam (four months).
RECORDS AND REFERENCES:
None. However, I served in Vietnam (four months).
PERSONAL I practice my Catholic faith when cameras are present.
I ride a Serotta Bike.
I love to ski/snowboard (especially when son-of-a-bitch secret service agents don't get in my way).
My Gulfstream V Jet I call "The Flying Squirrel".
I call my $850,000 42-foot Hinckley twin diesel yacht the "Scarmouche”.
I am fascinated by rap and hip-hop and feel it reflects our real culture.
I own several "Large" SUVs including one parked at my Nantucket summer mansion, though I am against large polluting inefficient vehicles and blame George Bush for the energy problems.
I served in Vietnam (four months).
PLEASE CONSIDER MY EXPERIENCE WHEN VOTING IN 2004.
That whole statement is just... strange. For the spokeswoman to say "if anyone thinks Senator Kerry is afraid of a strong woman..." makes no sense; it doesn't even pertain to the joke or the situation.
He made a lame joke and she made a better joke. Yet Kerry responds, dragging this out another day.
Me thinks remarks about his long face made him bristle.... or perhaps it was that everyone laughed at it, including the troops.
Debstar, I re-read his testimony just now. I have to say as I reflect on it that my take is that he is chastising the Congressional committee members. It is interesting to read it again after so many years of talking to vets. His words ring true. His indictiment of some of the officers is troubling to me, but I know from experience that the military foster the mentality of "Not my fault. I did as I was told." So I can't say that I blame the officers who may have swept these things under the rug. We certainly should follow "To thine ownself be true" philosophy, but I know too how the military (all countries) takes the individualism out of its soldiers. Follow directions. Do as you are told. Period.
whoa baby - This is simple. A Dem leader said a mother of 5 is who should have been missing. If this is such a joke as you Dems call it then have him tell it to Piper with Todd present. If they believe it is a joke then it is. Otherwise Kerry may be wishing he was back in the 'Nam.
I just want to reach out and say " John - Why the long farce?"
The left would have us think that people overseas would hate Sarah more than they hate Bush.
Seeing pics of Sarah on the street makes me wonder if perhaps she may be just as popular with the common folk in foreign countries as she is here. Especially as she travels more overseas.
PEC, this is simple. It was a joke at a GOVERNOR, not a comment about how a mother of five, poor little children should go missing and leave them motherless for the rest of their lives. Sob and boo hoo. Sheesh. Talk about making a mountain out of a mole hill. Need another tank of helium while you're blowing things out of proportion?
whoa baby - THis is simple. Sarah Palin is a mother of 5. If he wants Sarah Palin missing then a mother of 5 is missing. I am sorry maybe Dems are not enough to think through the full affects of their mean spirited jokes but the truth is the truth. If you want Sarah Palin to be missing (ie Shannyn Moore said the same thing) then you are saying you want a mother of 5 missing. I do realize Dems do not like facts to get in the way of the truth but her being a mother of 5 is a fact.
Whoa,
You're wrapped way too tight. The very unlikable John "effing" Kerry made a joke about Palin. It was a typical Kerry joke which is to say dumb and not funny. She then came back with a joke of her own, much funnier and delivered with a smile on her face. Kerry then felt the need to comment or retract his joke or something like that. End of story.
Tommy
@ 2:33
I can't get either one of your links to open.
Do you have the complete link there?
Do you think the Guv is going to find a little time to hit the middle east or not?
whoa baby give it a rest. The truth of the matter is she is a mother of five and people need to think before they speak. Perhaps in a couple months the Senator can share his joke with Track when he comes home. In fact I think the experience of being around someone who has actually been in a war zone would be good for Senator Kerry.
Apologies if this has already been posted, but a poster at Hot Air had the perfect reply from Gov. Palin:
“While I appreciate the Senator from Massachusetts’ endorsement, we really should just quit this horsing around.”
toenail on June 27, 2009 at 3:03 PM
Doug - Agree. The only thing funny was how disjointed his response back was. It was actually funnier to try to read than the actual jokes. The scary thing is this guy was one state from winning the Presidency. The only thing worse than him is the one in office now. He is the biggest joke only I cry when I see what he is doing to my children and grandchildren.
Kerry should have just shut up and left it as it was. He cracked a joke. She cracked one back. End of story.
PEC and Doug, give me an address. I'll send the helium (or gas of your choice).
Mansour, and he cracked one back at her. Tag you're it. So what? It's what politicians do (on both sides of the aisle).
Yogi,
That's awesome.
"“While I appreciate the Senator from Massachusetts’ endorsement, we really should just quit this horsing around.”
I'd love for her to say something like that.
PEC,
Absolutely. Kerry is such a narcissist that he has no idea how unfunny and unlikable he is. He should just keep his mouth shut and stick to parasailing off the Vineyard. This is yet another reason we can't nominate Mittens. As many on here have pointed out, Mittens is the Rerpublican John "effing" Kerry.
What a sarcastic comment. He wants Palin on 2012 because he thinks she will be easy to defeat! Bas....
Whoa,
Can you use your food stamps to purchase helium? I thank you for your offer to send me some since we are having a 4th of July cookout. The kids need some for their balloons.
LEt us follow the trend the last few weeks.
Liberal Comedian makes a joke of Statutory Rape of a Teenager.
Official Dem from Alaska makes fun of a Down Syndrome child.
Dem Senator and former Dem Presidential Nominee thinks it is funny if a mother of 5 is missing (if he can't think of all consequences any better than that why is he a US Sen)
All along Dems have riduculed a Single Teenage Mother Going to school and working to support her child.
We are really seeing the thought process and the values of the Dems through Gov Palin and family.
Oh and let us not forget the current leader and President made a joke about special olympic children.
Dems seem to always like to joke about Females and special needs people.
I need an address, Doug. Food stamps? Why would you assume that I am on welfare. Does Alaska pay teachers that poorly? I don't know about you, but my family (for generations)has never done welfare. Doug, do you know what they say about the word "assume"? Hmmmm?
Bee,
You can find those links in the Newsbuster article that I linked before that.
Don't know if Palin is headed towards Iraq/Afghanistan but the fact that there hasn't been a tweet in the last thirteen hours suggests she's headed somwhere after stopping off with the wounded troops in Germany.
And, Doug? Be sure to visit http://www.ecolovy.com/english/products/index.html to get those biodegradable balloons. Don't want to pollute the environment, do we? Ciao.
whoa baby - The Address is 1600 Penn. AVE, Washington DC. He can use Helium to replace the cocaine that he has used and considering what he is doing appears to still be hooked on.
I just thought of something, since this "clarification" mentions Kerry's wife and two daugthers, using the dems own logic, Kerry's family is now fair game for attack and ridicule. He's obviously using them as political props, and only trotting them out to gain political points.
"...does nothing to assuage my regarding with..."
If this is an example of the education available in Alaska, I can fully understand your concern. My condolences.
Mr. Kerry has aggressive sensitivity.
I was almost surprised by it.
I thought Kerry's original joke was mildly amusing and Palin's response was in kind. Should have ended there.
"the truth is every Democrat hopes Governor Palin is in the public eye for a long, long time, especially on the 2012 presidential ballot"
Careful what you wish for....I'm going to dance with my wife at Sarah's inauguration while Democrats all over Washington look at each other and say, "How did we lose to HER?"
Whoa,
You're a teacher? That's an alarming thought and certainly does nothing to assuage my concerns regarding the state of today's educational system.
The facial expressions of the Kerrys in that picture is quite amusing.
I think there's more warmth for Senator Kerry, coming from the thon....hold on! (Puking in my mouth again at the thought of John Kerry in a thon...okay, I can do this. Just plow through it! Think flip-flops, flip-flops.)
I'll try it again.
I think there's more warmth for Senator Kerry, coming from that flip-flop in the first picture than is coming from Theresa, in the second picture.
It almost looks like the photographer caught them just as he was asking her if she would buy him a new yacht.
In my best Thurston Howell the III voice:"Oh, strong, brilliant, independent, cash register. Don't you think it would just be marvelous, if you bought me a brand, new yacht!" Gives her a squeeze.Smiles.
Click.
Well, as you can see by HER expression, perhaps he didn't get that new yacht.
"You're a teacher? That's an alarming thought..."
You have exactly nothing on which to base your evaluation of my teaching abilities; therefore, your less than witty and snide remark falls in the category of childish at the junior high level. It is right along the lines of "I know you are, but what am I" frequently heard during name-calling on the playground. I suggest that you follow this advice: Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt.
whoa baby - He is basing it on the current education system and the fact that you defend a liberals attack on a mother of 5 because that person is a conservative confirms what type of teacher you are. Do you make jokes in your class of conservative mothers of 5 going missing and joking about it?
I have a joke you can tell your class an idiot said he is going to show fiscal responsiblity by spending 1.2 Trillion dollars. Have your students do the math on that and they will see what a joke that person is.
Whoa Baby,
You are quite correct that I don't have a basis upon which to evaluate your teaching abilities. I do, however, have a basis upon which to evaluate your intelligence...your comments. In evaluating the aforementioned comments, I am indeed alarmed, if not petrified, that young skulls full of mush are being taught by a teacher of your mental acumen.
PEC,
Exactly. Have a great Saturday night my friend! Time to head out now to my favorite restaurant. Pickle Bills. Can you say A-Y-C-E crab legs? You betcha!
http://www.picklebills.com/
Doug(formerly DB),
AWESOME POST ON KERRYS RESUME!!!!
Very funny, very true, very timely.
Whoa baby,
I know lots of Obama jokes. Don't know any jokes about Obama's CHILDREN. Want to know why?
Because me and my friends are not SCUMBAGS!
So by John Kerry saying he hopes Palin is the 2012 candidate he is saying he thinks she will be a worse candidate than he was?
He got clobbered by one of the most unpopular Presidents of all time and he thinks he can run his mouth about someone else being a bad candidate?
Well, you would both be wrong as my students do amazingly well on the state tests. They do so well, in fact, that we went from a failing school to a model school (with the combined expertise of our whole faculty of course). I would be a poor teacher indeed if I used my classroom as a pulpit to indoctrinate my students with my opinions. I use blogs to express my political views. As for my students, I try to teach them how to think and how to research properly to form their opinions. I teach them how to evaluate the quality of their resources. Furthermore, my mantra is this, "If you are not willing to think about important issues and thoroughly research information to form your own opinions, someone else will form your opinions for you." Bye bye, guys. It's been fun.
Sarah, Undefeated!
15-0 at home
2-0 on the road
Be smart, don't mess with the Cuda!
Snooper said, "The truth of the matter is she is a mother of five and people need to think before they speak." What does that even mean?
We can only hope that John Kerry is again the democrat presidential nominee at some time in the near future. He is a phenomenon in his own mind.
Anne Whitney said...
Snooper said, "The truth of the matter is she is a mother of five and people need to think before they speak." What does that even mean?
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Not sure. I think perhaps he was suggesting a return to civility in our public discourse. Not sure how effective that will be, but worth a shot.
Michael Jackson - Thriller
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCqHOt3Lu68
Doug - I love that Kerry resume, never saw it before. He is a complete ass.
The thing that make me sad is his access to the Heinz money. Too bad it didn't go to charity. John Heinz was a republican through and through. He might have burned it rather than have teresa and longface use it attempting to destroy this country.
And who in their right mind amends a joke?
If you have orders from Axelrod and the boys, you amend a joke...that is who amends jokes.
http://bostonherald.com/news/columnists/view/20090626john_kerry_talks_sports_like_well_john_kerry/srvc=home&position=1
Compare sportsman Kerry to sportswoman Sarah.
Unfair, I know.
Kerry just proclaimed he is anti-Obama! C4P exclusive! First democRAT to jump ship! LOL!
I agree with all you guys, there should be a post of Kerry's support for Sarah 2012!
I must say Kerry made a Freudian slip!
He admits he wants Sarah to win in 2012!!
Judging by whoa baby comments here I can imagine the research she has her students doing. She would say get your info from Huff POst, Daily Kos, Keith Olberman and then AC 360. She is saying her school did that, unless she is teaching at a Private school there is not a public school in America that has improved that much so I know she is lieing. Since liberals like her have taking over public schools the whole system is broke.
Nicely done pro palin clip
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ne6gAUbTJ94
PEC - I suggest you learn to conjugate the verb "to lie" before criticizing education - glass houses and all . . .
PEC---With upinak so busy you sure have taken up the slack. RAM you have done a h*ll of a job too.
Is the cuda heading to the middle east? It seems doubtful at this point but one can only hope!
We need a twitter update soon!
PEC, mmmmmmmm, no. They are encouraged to use primary sources as much as possible. However, judging by how you write and your disjointed thinking, you might want to go take some night classes.
Anne - I was educated in SC and am a product of public education (double whammy). Having teachers like whoa baby is why I make those grammatical errors.
Oh and when I talk I drop my g and speak with a southern drawl but I still know that you don't cut the debt by increasing spending 1.2 Trillion and you don't improve defense against NK by cutting missile defense. And yes I know I would do better than the person in the White House and any of the 535 thieves we have in Washington now.
I learned Waaayyy more from my life experiences than my college degree.
New tweet:
Frankfurt: AK Guard leadrs Campbell & Choate w/staff & soldiers @ Landstuhl Med Cntr; Canadian, US & other allied troops treated together...
Whoa, didn't you just promise us you were leaving? How can we miss you if you won't go away?
Whoa Baby just described a conservative.
Get back here Whoa, we want to hear more how conservative you are with all the educatin to think independently and all.
Funny how people come here with this ridiculous caricature of Sarah, spouting how we should get information and think our own way, and then IGNORE all the facts about Sarah.
Funny.
Notive how Whoa disappears once they really can see they can't back up Obama's policies with facts.
New Tweet:
"Sacrificial soldiers who fought for freedom put it all in perspective: time/resources wasted on pettiness is futile- ask what really matters"
6 minutes ago from TwitterBerry
whoa - I also know that when someone says bye bye that means they are gone. I guess you didn't teach your children that. Maybe I did learn something in my weak SC education.
Notice how GOV Palin describes soldiers. A far cry from the Democrats who accuse them of murdering innocent civilians. OF course whoa baby would have her students go to a respectable news source say the NY Times or in Alaska the soon to be bankrupt ADN and get fair news. Her students would fall for whoa babies trap that these are credible sources.
John Kerry is right when he says the Dems want Palin to run. It would be a disaster if she runs. She is not ready for the intense media scrutiny she will receive. She can't handle the media. If conservatives don't realize this after they already say it happen before their eyes (and acknowledged it themselves by complaining about the media), then John Kerry is gonna start making jokes about us getting stuck in Irak.
Furthermore, Palin has very little experience. She was only in charge of Alaska for 2 years before running for VP. That's half as much as Barack had in running for president. We need to pick someone who has a history of sound successful policies like Bobby Jindal or Mitch Daniels. Those guys are smart and better at running national campaigns and aren't hated by half the electorate.
Gov. Palin's followers on Twitter will probably go over 40,000 tomorrow (sunday). Her Facebook is now at 559,017, so it could hit 560,000 tomorrow or Monday.
Thanks for the pointless stats about Palin's Twitter feed.
Palinistas are no different than Al Sharpton.
You guys both complain about people you don't like for their speech and try to get their advertisers to drop them.
SPee Nutter - I am a soldier and I am not offended at all. In fact I know exactly what she is talking about. You sacrifice time, family for some body parts for some their life. Until you have been then you do not know what sacrifice does mean. Until you look a family member and their child that just lost their father in the face you don't know the sacrifice. Do that and then you will quickly learn the definition of sacrifice. If I am not offended you do not need to be.
barry - Correct on inexperience. GOV Palin has no experience at all in having a 2 trillion dollar deficit while in her job. SHe also had enough common sense to know that Oil Prices would not stay high forever and saved money for when prices went down. She has reserves to go to.
So if you are saying GOV Palin has no experience at bad governoring you are correct.
This new "Barry Bonds" needs an asterisk for stupidity.
spn are you sjk? Because the whole pee thing is sjk's lame attempt at an insult. So, if you're not sjk and you're using his/her/its line, you might want to change your name. The PDSers are quite litigious.
about barry bonds:
It appears that steroids make your muscles bigger and your brain smaller.
Trolls, Mobys or what ever you are this is how it is done. watch and you may learn something.
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PEC----Thank you.
barry, barry, barry...
First off, we like the twitter stats around here. You are clearly new. Second, you use the lack of experience line from 2008 to argue against the Gov. for 2012. You fail to realize that by then she will have either 4 or 6 years of executive experience. equal to or surpassing BO's experience when first running for prez. Third, neither Jindal nor Daniels, nor Mittens or any other national GOP figure, has the personal magnetism of Sarah Palin. It's a rare commodity in politicians. BO has it, and whoever runs against him must have it or will lose. Sarah's really the only hope. Finally, no one here believes for a second that the Gov. is stupid. Peddle that line elsewhere.
Spee Nutter - Whoa Baby must have been your teacher. Here is the definition of sacrificial. Not the one whoa baby would get for you from the Huff Post or Keith Olberman.
Main Entry: sac·ri·fi·cial
Pronunciation: \Ėsa-krÉ-Ėfi-shÉl\
Function: adjective
Date: 1607
1 : of, relating to, of the nature of, or involving sacrifice
Oh and once again SpeeNut I am a soldier and I am not offended so you should not be either.
Greg:
There has not been much comment on the phenomenon of Sarah's exponential increase in Sarah's Facebook and Twitter membership since Sarah returned to Alaska around the middle of June but I think that Sarah got a major boost in support from her two week excursion into the Lower 48 (eat your heart out Romney and Huckabee)and with the downfall of Sanford this past week it can only help Sarah Palin to coalesce the conservative base of the Republican Party around her. She is already favored by 80% of the conservative Republican base (PEW poll). Can 85-90% on her doorstep very soon?
And Greg, I wonder if this has caused a boost in SarahPAC? On second thought that's not possible-SarahPAC has already maxed out at $100,000 over the past 5 months!
Here's a smear piece at the ADN. When is this rag going to go under?
They are so disgustingly biased.
They should just call themselves the I Hate Sarah Palin & Nothing Else Matters newspaper.
http://www.adn.com/opinion/comment/erickson/story/845981.html
barry bonds:
SHE IS NOT READY FOR THE INTENSE MEDIA SCRUTINY THAT SHE WOULD RECEIVE.
You have got to be kidding. Since August 29, 2008, when Sarah Palin was brought on board by the McCain campaign, Sarah and her family have lived their lives under a fishbowl in the lower 48 and in Alaska. It has not stopped even for a day.
Based on the past 10 months I would argue that Sarah Palin is better prepared for media scrutiny than any candidate that the GOP could run against Obama.
And to your argument about 'polarization' most of these people who oppose Sarah are liberal and Democrats who are never going to vote for Sarah anyway.
Sarah will be going after Reagan Democrats, moderate Republicans, libertarians and independents in an effort to rebuild the Reagan coalition. Admit it: the Obama war room is terrified of this woman and Kerry's inadvertent remark preferring Sarah to 'get lost' is another sign of this growing terror in Democratic circles.
Greg,
I think Barry doesn't like your Governor Palin Twitter stats, because there isn't an asterisk beside them.
Because she doesn't need any help, trolls, there's no need for one. Just let her be herself and she is quite successful, thank you very much!
Um, the electorate hates her SO much, that 20,000 haters showed up for a parade that she was in. In blue New York state. In 2009. And how many people show up to listen to, see, or meet John Kerry? Probably only the ones his wife would rent for him.
Can we put our heads together and come up with any other Democrat, that could get Governor Palin crowds,attention?........other than The One Who Must Be Obeyed, of course.
Me neither. So, let's just play the game, The One Who Must Be Obeyed vs. little Governor Palin,and see what happens. I'm not scared. Are you?
techno - Sarah roled down like the Polar Express and turned the GOP upside down. Remember Auburn, NY. That was the eye opener. 20000 in the middle of a Blue State. The elitist hate her. She has learned that and has decided screw them. I will take the media on head on. I will stand to my principles and I will do it my way and the elites don't know what to do. She is the Big Pink Elephant in the middle of the room.
Now I have been thinking this for the past few days and it may get me kicked off C4P but hear me out. Sarah is not a Conservative (outside of Pro-Life and that is purely her belief that life begins at conception). Sarah is a mix between a libertarian and Populists. That is why some see Reagan in her, some see Teddy Roosevelt, some see Lincoln and I see a lot of Andrew Jackson. She is pro-business but not pro-corporatism. She is pro-union but not pro-union leaders. SHe is pro-military but I have heard her say we better not be going to War for Oil when we have our own. She is pro-drilling but has the most agressive alternative energy plan in the Nation. She can fight to make Exxon pay for damage caused by Valdez one day and then cut a deal with them the next. She shows her love, forgiveness and compassion by being strong on abstinence but not tossing her daughter under the bus when she has a child. She is waaayyy more complex than the elites can dream of and that scares them.
beehive,
its not surprising afterall the paper did endorse obama in the election.
its basically becoming the ny times of alaska. people read it but they know its baised :)
although at the rate mcclatchy is losing money and cutting staff its getting smaller and smaller each day :)
I agree with Kerry, I too want the Guv to get the nomination. When the first woman ever gets the nomination to be POTUS of the USA this country will go crazy for Gov. Palin and especially if the country is in the tank. There would be no craziness for Jindal, Daniels, or anyone else. The day that Gov. Palin seals the nomination all she would have to do is stand before the American people and say “I am you and join me in giving our country back to their rightful owners the American People. It is over in a landslide. That is why the attacks will never stop against Governor Sarah Palin. That is the way Obama got elected and Obama’s nuts know this. Tammy Bruce just said the other day that the Romney’s, the Bushes’ and anyone else better get use to the fact that it will be Palin/Giuliani, Palin/Boden or Palin someone but it will be Palin if she so desires to run.
Boy, these night shift trolls are even more clueless than the day shift trolls.
I think the troll collective sent out the C team tonight.
Remember Greta's husband words: Sarah Palin is not what the left thinks and not what the right thinks.
Not the exact words but close.
SpeeNut - They call them sacrificial lambs because they are sacrficed. I sent you the definition right out of Websters. If you do not like that definition start a dictionary called Nutter and make up your own definitions.
JeanA - thanks for the reminder - with the Scientologists behind her she can't lose - on Xenu!
PEC,
You're comment at 12:27 was excellent. Great analysis!
They backed Hillary.
PEC:
I agree completely. I thought one of the huge mistakes, among many, that the McCain campaign made during the fall campaign was to ignore Sarah's libertarian credentials and let the MSM define her as a religious extremist wacko who only believes in abstinence and does not believe in the teaching of evolution in schools. (Not true on both counts)
SPee Nutter - Nobody is picking on you. Call me PECker I want lose any sleep over it. I am stating the obvious. You pick the GOV apart for a choice of a word on Twitter of all places and act like her choice is wrong. The soldiers she saw have been sacrificial even from your since. I remember the 101st Soldier sleeping one night and the blast from a car bomb blew out the glass of the room that he was in. No major injuries just blind the rest of his life. That is sacrificial. At Landstuhl that is the soldiers she would have seen. This is sacrificial. Their lives are forever changed. THey do this for love of country. Their sacrificing has made them sacrificial. Lives forever changed. Any leader that goes to Europe and does not stop by Landstuhl Hospital everytime they are there is pathetic?
Here is a write-up:
Alaska's economy: Could be worse
http://www.adn.com/opinion/story/845273.html
techno - Her populists comes from she takes on nepotism and cronyism big time. Congress doesn't want her in office because she will call out their corruption regardless of party.
Getting tired everybody. Hang in there. The trolls are lurking.
PEC:
I am not against populism but I think part of what would have done McCain and Palin in during the 2008 campaign (even without the financial meltdown) would have been the overemphasis on the 'maverick' theme of their campaign. Americans wanted fundamental political change, not a folksy allusion to reform and the abolition of earmarks.
In 2012 I believe the American people will be ready to hear the Reagan conservative message again with hints of libertarian support for individual discretion. Ideas will take precedent over practicality.
I firmly believe that this is the reason why Sarah mentioned Reagan in her speech in Kosovo. If you are a Reagan conservative, what better way to prove it than acknowledging the founder of the movement.
Sarah is a very astute politician. She is determined never to have to look over her shoulder or in the rear-view mirror (like McCain had to) and worry about an erosion of conservative support. She wants them to be hers for all time.
Trolls, I enjoyed the sparring. Overall weak performance, but extremely entertaining. Maybe the day shift and the night shift could compare notes sometime and try to improve in a couple of areas.
We get the over arching theme, that you have a burning hatred for Governor Palin. The problem is, you're so all over the place!
Disjointed comments, names we can make fun of, nonsensical phrases, and rarely any support to back up claims you make. It's an overall losing formula.
Just something for you trolls to noodle, when you get together for the next collective outing.
PEC.
Libertarian populist not conservative. First there are too many definitions of conservative anyway. I would agree with RAM, she is a conservative with s strong libertarian streak. Maybe a good way to describe her is a common sense libertarian conservative. Face it she is complex, political labels are confusing anyway, as long as the Constitution is her guide, she is on the right track.
techno, there has been a big boost in both Facebook and Twitter since her swing through NY and the letterman dustup. I have a feeling that both SarahPAC and AFT have seen an upsurge as well.
Sanford self-destucting will benefit Gov. Palin more than anyone else. The Minneapolis Star Tribune today had a couple of articles touting Pawlenty as the new rising star. He hasn't been a bad governor, but he's really, really boring, he'd have a hard time drawing 500 people to a rally, and I doubt if he'd be able to raise significant amounts of money. That's why I keep hoping that SarahPAC's numbers are extremely good, both in number of donors and total amount. If they are, it will probably scare Pawlenty off, and maybe even Gingrich. All of them already know that they can't compete with her as far as drawing crowds, hopefully SarahPAC will show that they can't compete financially either.
The populist tag comes from taking on the corrupt Big Oil in her state. Their lackeys retaliated by labeling her populist.
Greg:
Sarah is now in a high-water mark in her political career.
First Letterman, now Kerry. Will these graybeards ever learn?
You don't tangle with the 'Cuda and escape unscathed.
She is not the incarnation of the reticent George Bush. She is the Dem's worst nightmare-a Republican who is not reluctant to speak her mind, who will engage the enemy on its turf, counterpunch, and will fight to the bitter end.
techno, you are right. Just because George Bush never fought back, the media got all used to crapping on Republicans and conservative values. It also helped them shed their mainstream profiles and follow their left wing, socialistic cores. That's why a number of them were surprised when Sarah fought back. If they knew that retaliation will be swift, not just from her but from her followers as well, then they'll tame down a bit and go back to that cuddly pre-Bush era.
OT:
This article is outrageous and hillarious at the same time:
http://www.adn.com/opinion/comment/erickson/story/845981.html
Pleeeeeeese do a post on it C4P! It's just too easy to pick apart. Here's my comments on the article at ADN:
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Are you out of your ever-lovin' mind!? That's the best you can do?
She's going overseas, into a war zone. You don't think maybe they might want to keep a few things secret for security purposes?
Oh, but then I'm sure you wouldn't mind if she did get shot. Maybe that's what your real problem is with this whole "character" thing. That pesky little self-preservation thing. It would be so much nicer if she would just up and die, is that it?
Get a life.
Andree, you need psychiatric help, seriously.
You people crack me up. You're all nuts. You're seriously upset that she wouldn't tell you her schedule when she was going into a war zone? You all are off your rocker. Your rocker is off its rocker. Your rocker is on Pluto.
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Andree McCleod posted comments too. She suggests that Palin is mentally disabled and incapable of discharging her office. This woman is seriously insane.
techno, Gov. Palin's been on a roll now for at least the last two months, and there are bigger and better things coming in the near future. Letterman and Kerry were just warm up acts. Maybe a smackdown of David Frum, Katleen Parker, and some of the other supposedly conservative "media elites," then her big guns will be turned on Chris Matthews,
0lbermann, and the other 0bama media minions at MSNBC as well. Then everyone will realize that they have a real tiger by the tail. Her fearlessness in confronting the left will be a thing of beauty.
BTW, I see Palingates is fuming over her wearing a T-shirt and pants while addressing the troops. Comparing this to Biden's shirt and tie. If Gov. Palin had worn a skirt they would have blasted her for that as well. This is just another example of the pathetic level to which the dems have sunk.
Uffda has mentioned this, but it bears repeating: Some clown at the ADA has written a story about Gov. Palin's "Character problem," among other things saying that in 2012 the dems will still have Troopergate, the wardrobe, and all the other garbage from 2012 to use against her. I don't doubt that they will, but if that is all they have, it will be a pathetic display of total desparation on their part.
Let them keep going Greg. Give them enough rope and they will eventually hang themselves. While too many of our brain-dead population eagerly opens its mouth to take in the excrement that the MSM incessantly shovels in, so-called jouranlism in this country is being trusted less and less by more and more people.
While I am realistic enough to know that the media will never be on our side, its pathological bias is becoming a recognized fact to the extent that Obama himself even jokes about it. They have destroyed their credibility and the Letterman episode demonstrated that it has reached critical mass. The people are sick of it, and as they become ever more vicious and depraved in their attacks, I believe it will have the opposite effect.
Nancy, June 28, 2009 12:27 AM
" Greg,
I think Barry doesn't like your Governor Palin Twitter stats, because there isn't an asterisk beside them."
As a baseball fan, this made me LOL.
Let us also be grateful that the Arctic Fox is no longer shackled by a campaign of cowards and incompetents. She is now showing this country how she truly operates. She gives back beeter than she gets. Witness how she sent little wuss nobodys like Letterman and Kerry scrambling for damage control, all with grace, dignity, and a smile.
The liberal trolls are in panic mode. As well they should be. Those cute red stilettos will be a stake through their hearts.
God, I love this woman.
Heh... just looked up "Strawman Argument" in wikipedia.... it linked to Patrick's comment at June 28, 2009 10:04 AM
If you guys want to lose an election, that's fine, but don't subject us real Americans to 4 mores years of Obama's tyranny.
You don't seem to realize that elections require 50% of the vote. You don't seem to realize that Palin is not very popular among anyone who isn't conservative. Do I need to get you find you some poll results to show you why it's impossible for the Pit Bull who doesn't even know how to answer a question about what she reads to win?
Always Fired Up -
I agree that Palin has charisma, but can her charisma overcome her unpopularity?
I don't think so.
That point aside, charisma is pretty annoying when it comes to actually deciding a politician that I like--not one that will win. Politicians who can rile up support like Sarah usually end up building a religion around themselves like Obama did. Palin seemed to get more support for her rallies and speeches than her policies.
And as for whether she will have experience in 2012- She has basically continued her campaign ever since it ended, and there's a good chance she won't even run for reelection. If she does get reelected, it might be hard for her to keep campaigning, because already she's losing support in Alaska because of how much she is campaigning elsewhere.
"Based on the past 10 months I would argue that Sarah Palin is better prepared for media scrutiny than any candidate that the GOP could run against Obama."
She hasn't done a very good job of handling the media in the past 10 months. I mean she has improved some since the election, but we all know how she handled the media during the election. Sure the media is biased against her, but she didn't know that going in? She should have expected that and responded as such.
The media is very sexist, so they are going to try to tear her down just like they did last time.
"Um, the electorate hates her SO much, that 20,000 haters showed up for a parade that she was in. In blue New York state."
You have no conception of electoral politics, Nancy. You don't need 20,000 votes to win, you need 50% to win. Palin has a whole lot of fanatical Palin-messiah followers, as evidenced by the love of her on this blog and at speeches and stuff, but she doesn't have much love among moderates.
The people who show up at rallies are only a small fraction of those who vote.
JeanA -
Palin won't get much support for being a women--she will only be hurt by that. The media is sexist, and especially sexist against conservative women. They will just run a story about how Palin getting the nomination is a step back for women since Palin isn't a real women then they will quote some people from NOW to confirm it.
What's your view on Sarah taking on corrupt big oil? Does that sound like something Democrats like to do? Attack private enterprise and label business owners as corrupt?
barry bonds,
You keep stating that Palin is unpopular amongst the "middle" of the political spectrum. Clearly, you haven't noticed to the two most recent polls showing her approaching 50% favorable with indies/moderates. Couple that with 80% + approval amongst conservatives (who make up 40% + of the electorate) and you have a very viable candidate.
She is only "divisive" because she is clearly to the right. The left hates her, so she is labeled "divisive." The REALITY is the that moderates/independents sway with the wind... 2012 will be a referendum on Obama. If Palin is on the ticket, the conservatives will be motivated like never before, and if the economy is still in the crapper, the middle will come running to the right.
44% of Americans view Palin unfavorably. That crosses into moderate territory.
Yes but if you look at the crosstabs, that is because Dems view her very unfavorably. Most others get about 30-40% "no opinion or don't know" from the Dems... not so with Sarah Palin.... they are very emphatic in their dislike for her... which skews her numbers... Dems won't vote GOP, by and large, ANYWAY.... we just ran a candidate with low unfavorables by the Dems... how did that work out?
Take away the DEM unfavorables for every GOP national figure, and she has an unfavorable rating that is comparable with everyone else, but a favorable rating which beats every one else.
It's not rocket science... looking into these polls. But you DO have to look into them.
Moby Barry, 45% of Americans view Obama unfavorably. That crosses into moderate territory.
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obama_administration/daily_presidential_tracking_poll
So what's your point?
- JP
Obama had very low unfavorables when he won. Palin has high unfavorables BEFORE running.
Just watch SNL then watch a Palin interview then read the results of how many people think she's ready to be VP.
Barry,
You are clearly avoiding the facts.
Please address the FACT that the Palin's high unfavorables are due to unprecedented DEM hatred.... DEMS can view her as unfavorably as they want, but they still only get one vote (The number of votes the deceased get, on the other hand, IS a concern). The DEMS won't vote GOP anyhow, so who cares? TAKE AWAY THE DEMS FROM THE CROSSTABS... then look at the numbers. SP is the clear frontrunner amongst the GOP and the MIDDLE.
Your argument gets clobbered by facts. Please try again.
Okay, I'll try again:
Palin can't handle the media. She can't handle simple questions.
People hate her. She can't win a majority.
She also has worse policies than Jindal or Daniels and will make a worse president.
Ok... most of your post is drivel... people hate her blah blah blah... whatever.... but your last statement DOES intrigue me... Please compare and contrast Jindal/Daniels policies with Palin policies. I would like you to describe these policies and show exactly why her policies are "worse" than theirs.
More like media couldn't do elementary research on the fact that the state was a party to at least one lawsuit (stemming from the Exxon Valdez spill) and was appealing an EPA decision, which he wrote about in the New York Times. Then they 'dowdified' the interviews she did give. Her statement at the convention on "Miranda rights for terrorists"
was proof that she dissented from Hamdi, Hamdan, & Boumedienne. Kelo was an obvious no brainer. But then again taking the name of a steroid abusing cheater, we know ethics aren't a strong suit with you.
You think SNL is relevant? Its ratings have been in the tank for years. As a matter of fact, the only bump its ratings ever got in recent years was when Palin was a guest.
I've watched a great number of Palin interviews. I collect them for a website I run. I recommend two CNBC interviews - one with Maria Bartiromo and another with Larry Kudlow. She impressed those interviewers with her knowledge of energy and economic issues.
Watch the latest Matt Lauer and Wolf Blitzer interviews, where she didn't let the interviewers keep her from getting her message out on AGIA.
She has more than two years of political experience. She chaired the Oil and Gas Conservation Commission (an important board in Alaska) for a year. Two four-year terms as a mayor and 3 and half years as a governor is almost a dozen years of governmental executive experience.
Palin has also chaired the IOGCC, an energy organization which includes, along with most of the U.S. states, associate members Alberta, British Columbia, Egypt, Republic of Georgia, Newfoundland and Labrador, Nova Scotia, Saskatchewan, Venezuela and Yukon.
She has hosted conferences of Arctic nations including Russia, Denmark, Greenland, Canada, Iceland, Finland, Norway, Sweden and the European parliament.
She has hosted trade representatives from Russia, Japan, the UK, New Zealand, Hungary, Norway, South Korea, The Philippines, Canada, China, Mexico,the Czech Republic, Poland, Finland, Seychelles, and Norway.
In Kosovo last week, she met with Lithuania's minister of defense.
Mitch Daniels dismissed a presidential run this month, saying "I've only ever run for or held one office. It's the last one I'm going to hold."
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/politics_nation/2009/06/daniels_says_current_job_is_hi.html
Methinks you need to find a new horse to bet on. How do you like Mitt Romney? He's very impressive. Despite raising a ton of cash and investing a considerable chunk of his own personal fortune into his '08 run, he couldn't even beat McCain. When McCain's campaign was on life support, Romney couldn't even finish it off. Despite bringing in busloads of college kids to vote for him in Iowa, he couldn't even beat Huckabee there.
Good luck.
- JP
Regarding ethics, Palin violated campaign finance law just to look pretty. A bunch of liberal watchdog groups said so.
On a more serious note, Daniels balanced Indiana's budget for the first time in decades and turned Indiana's credit rating into AAA. Those were his key successes that I can think of first of all.
I don't know as much about Jindal, but he was accepted to Harvard Med School and Yale Law School, so he's one of the smartest politicians.
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