Thursday, July 9, 2009

It's Sarah Palin's Party



Sarah Palin is the Jacksonian "outsider" now.

The latest Rasmussen polling numbers are quite instructive. Palin's biggest group of supporters are young, unmarried, and not social conservative evangelicals. Her supporters do not view her as the social conservative candidate. Social conservatives prefer Huckabee as a candidate in 2012; however, they think just as highly of Sarah Palin as they do Huckabee. Sarah Palin's considerable base of supporters are attracted to her because she is the Beltway Outsider. She is the ordinary American who is fed up with the arrogant and incompetent Beltway elites who got us into the mess we're in and yet still show such disdain for the ordinary hardworking people who want nothing more than for their government to be "on their side and not in their way." Sarah Palin is our voice. When they laugh at her, we feel them laughing at us. Someday we'll have the last laugh.

The permanent political punditry on the right and the left really don't understand average schmoes like us. The current batch of rightwing pundits are graduates of the Reagan years and yet they no longer really understand what made him new because they themselves have grown old.

The rest of us don't spend our days chronicling Beltway intrigues. We don't know what the "Dingell-Norwood" is and frankly we don't care. Many of us don't even feel the need to vote because we've come to expect government to be useless and politicians to be little more than pandering freeloaders. We pay our taxes every April 15 and expect that our elected representatives will do their jobs or at least not make things worse for us. We secretly suspect that they do next to nothing, or at least nothing really useful. They just live off our money. Fine, just don't burn down the house. And don't try to soak us for more money.

What do we Ordinary Americans hear in Sarah Palin? We hear a person who doesn't make wild promises. She doesn't promise to give everyone a pet unicorn and an eco-friendly magic carpet. She promises to protect our interests by reining in the growth of this selfish beast that eats our tax dollars and finds new ways to bring our country to the brink of disaster. She promises to responsibly lead us in completing missions in distant countries where we never wanted to go and hope never to have to return. She doesn't promise that the wars will be over tomorrow, but she does promise that we will listen to our generals from now on so that we won't be seeing dozens of flag-draped coffins every month. She doesn't promise that the whole world will love us again (if they ever did), but she promises that we will stay strong enough to deter those who don't like us, and we will become self-sufficient in the one area most crucial to our long term security and peace -- energy.

Two recent articles reminded me of Palin's appeal to ordinary people. The first is by Chris Stigall:

Conservative voters both independent and Republican don’t trust the crew in Washington. Historically it is true they never have when asked. But this is not your typical “throw the bums out” mentality fomenting at tea party protests of late. This is a time when long term blue dog Democrat and Republican moderate office holders are nervously wondering, “Just how real IS the anger?” Bailouts, takeovers, stimulus spending, aggressive energy taxes, and nationalized health care have this electorate frightened and angry. The public is paying attention to their every vote, and those that are on the side of the American taxpayer will be rewarded in coming elections.

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Enter the most powerful motivator and fundraiser in all of Republican politics today.

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Palin has achieved a level of authentic, average-Joe appeal unmatched by any Republican on the national stage since Reagan and that is sexy as hell to a party who needs money and excitement now more than ever.

No, they’ll not say it publicly. In fact, they’ll dismiss her influence altogether if asked. But I’ll bet my house that the weekend voice mailbox of Governor Palin was full of begging, pleading Republican Senate, House, and gubernatorial candidates humbly requesting this “erratic, irrelevant, lightweight” to come stand at their side during their upcoming picnic/potluck/town hall/ cocktail fundraiser.

Perhaps the political chattering class is correct. Maybe Sarah Palin isn’t electable anymore. It’s highly doubtful that even came close to the top of her list when weighing the option of resigning last week. Sarah Palin knows she holds something more powerful than elected office right now. She has a consistent, unwavering commitment to celebrating American exceptionalism, freedom, and less government in the lives of every American. She now has the ability to hold each and every politician who calls on her for help to rise to her standard and maintain the integrity of the conservative movement. Put plainly, she will now determine the standard, direction, and message of conservatism going forward if they want her help. And there can be no doubt they crave her help.

Our favorite intellectual, Victor Davis Hanson, discusses Palin in an article titled "What is Wisdom? Sarah Palin and Her Critics":

Euripides asked that in the Bacchae? So who is the better one to sit down across from Putin? What training is critical to size up a Chavez, or say ‘no thanks, bud’ to Iran?

Does it require brains to manage a family with five kids, live on a limited budget, get elected to local office, fish, hunt, go to sea, cook your own food, navigate in politics with no money, without an influential dad and powerbroker husband-or is real wisdom finishing prep school, doing B+ work at Yale, and writing a novel, column or short story? (A little of both, you say? That’s why I started this piece off with my suggestion she take her new time to read and digest.)

In all seriousness at last, I’ve found it was harder to calibrate an old spray rig (without getting Parquat ['liquid death' we used to call it] up your nose and Simazine down your pants), with a shot roller pump and worn nozzles. It took some skill to put one pound (and only one pound) of Parquat and Simazine per acre on a two-foot-wide vineyard berm, correcting for tractor speed, wind, leaks, pump idiosyncrasies, soil conditions-knowing that too much preemergent herbicide gives you sick vines, and too little, weeds–than it was to do an apparatus criticus of 200 lines of the Greek text of Aeschylus’s Suppliants-all things, of course, being considered.

Sorry for the ‘either/or’ reductive binary: but I saw more stupid people in graduate school and three decades in academia than I ever did who ran 100 acres without going broke-and more of the latter whom I’d trust not to bankrupt the country and let down our defenses than of the former.

While we rightly argue that the Sarahs of the world, if they are to be taken seriously as leaders, must read and study more, why do we not also suggest that the Baracks of the world could do a little more chain-sawing, run a coffee shop for a summer, or drive a Winnebago cross-country? (Who knows, he might meet a fellow woodcutter who knew there were 50 states or that it was dumb to make fun of the Special Olympics.)

After all, a lot of geniuses are now calling for a “second stimulus” to borrow another trillion or so still, but I don’t think they come from Wasilla.

So I am afraid right now, but not of Sarah Palin.

Read the rest of VDH's article. It's vintage.

Another favorite intellectual of ours is Camille Paglia. She refuses to dismiss Palin too. And like VDH, Paglia encourages Palin to get a speechwriter and essentially use her time in the wilderness like Reagan did -- study, read, write, speak, and listen. Collect a coterie of sharp minds loyal to her vision. Palin will be back and she will be a force to reckon with.

249 comments:

bitterclinger July 9, 2009 3:18 PM  

Welcome back, RAM.

This post was excellent as always, but I look forward to hearing of your adventures. Will you be able to share or is "mum" the word?

Rick A. Evans July 9, 2009 3:23 PM  

Another excellent piece RAM. I like your comments regarding Paglia. She is not one of us but she is not one of the haters, either.

J Sawyer July 9, 2009 3:24 PM  

"Her supporters do not view her as the social conservative candidate."

This is so true, Rebecca, the elephant in the living room.

katiejane July 9, 2009 3:24 PM  

Her supporters do not view her as the social conservative candidate.

This is what many of the anti-Palin crowd seem to not be able to understand. They want to dismiss her supporters as "those right wing knuckle dragging Bible thumpers." They just can't wrap their head around the reality that many of her supporters are just traditional people who respect the values she openly lives.

sandra July 9, 2009 3:31 PM  

Thank you for a good discussion of why Sarah is so appealing. I think it's time for some of us to make contact with those who see life differently.

Andrew July 9, 2009 3:31 PM  

The thing with Gov. Sarah Palin, that most of these talking-heads don't understand is when she's "in the wilderness"--the political deathbed of anyone else... that's where she thrives.

She's often has taken the road through the wilderness to get where she is today. It's her territory.

So yes, she will be a force to reckon with.

defendAmerica July 9, 2009 3:33 PM  

It's good to see you back!

Illinois Conservative (Whitney) July 9, 2009 3:35 PM  

Until Sarah came on the scene, I was essentially a pro-life liberally leaning moderate. I had yet to declare a party prior to this election year. I ended up voting in the Republican party for McCain, showing how basically liberal I was until recent months.

I would say that Sarah has made me see the light on lower taxes, less government spending, and smaller government.

lmg July 9, 2009 3:40 PM  

"Twenty-first century power women do not marry men like Todd Palin."

Ah, but how many of them secretly wish they could?

Shane Vander Hart July 9, 2009 3:40 PM  

Rebecca,

I am not sure that analysis is quite correct. Most evangelicals I know do consider her to be a social conservative.

They may still prefer Huckabee, but I don't doubt her social conservative cred.

But she's also small government, lower taxes, etc. So her appeal extends beyond social conservatives. It hasn't been the emphasis of her administration, but she is pro-life and against gay marriage, etc.

Shane Vander Hart July 9, 2009 3:42 PM  

I missed the nuance of what you were saying - her majority of supporters don't view her as that because that isn't their issue.

RINO-hunter July 9, 2009 3:47 PM  

O/T: Jim Robinson, founder of FreeRepublic.com, just endorsed Sarah: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2289058/posts

Toki De La Vega July 9, 2009 3:48 PM  

Palin's biggest group of supporters are young, unmarried, and not social conservative evangelicals.
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That's me.

MsLiberty July 9, 2009 3:49 PM  

Palin's biggest group of supporters are young, unmarried, and not social conservative evangelicals.

That's me!

I don't understand why the media insists on recycling the meme that she's some kind of loony, snake-handling fundie because it's never had legs, and the more they try to push it, the greater her appeal seems to be among non-social cons like me. Possibly that is because even a cursory review of her record would reveal she governs like a libertarian, and a pragmatic one at that. I can only surmise they don't understand what it means to be a Christian -- an honest-to-goodness, real, committed Christian. I know the type of person the Huckster appeals to; it's a big reason why I could never support him (his abysmal record notwithstanding). What is appealing about Sarah is that these are her personal values and she doesn't just talk about them; she lives them. Regardless of whether you agree with her worldview, the fact that she sticks to her principles even when a lesser person might take the easy way out is an invaluable trait in a leader. Sarah is someone who understands the tenets of conservatism intuitively -- because it's her life! -- even if she can't spout dogma by rote, who sticks to her moral code regardless of the cost to her professionally, who possesses a servant's heart and puts the interests of the people she serves ahead of her own: THAT is true leadership. Give me someone with this kind of integrity over the most pedigreed, pointy-headed policy wonk any day of the week. She can learn the policy. What she brings to the table can't be manufactured. She is the real deal.

Illinois Conservative (Whitney) July 9, 2009 3:52 PM  

I'd consider myself social conservative, but yep, the young, unmarried evangelical part--that's me too!

wisetrog July 9, 2009 4:03 PM  

Poetry. Pure poetry.

People, prepare for another attack of kwaise.

georgiapeach July 9, 2009 4:05 PM  

RAM, you seem to have a finger on the pulse of what makes Sarah so appealing to PalinDemocrats. We understand that they demean and ridicule her for the things that she has in common with us.

RINO-hunter July 9, 2009 4:06 PM  

I think her SoCon creds are pretty good. But she beats Huckabee because he's a nanny-state tax-and-spender, while she has a bit of a libertarian streak.

He increased spending every year he was in office (spending increased at three times the rate of inflation under his watch), while she cut it. He supported cap in trade. He was soft on crime, pardoning more criminals during his tenure than all six nighboring states combined. He supported a nation-wide smoking ban. His foreign policy positions during the last primary were closer to Obama's than Hillary's were. He was endorsed by the NEA. He was weaker on immigration than McCain. He flip-flopped on a national abortion ban just to outmaneuver Fred Thompson (who took a Federalist state-by-state approach). Phyllis Schlafly said "He destroyed the conservative movement in Arkansas, and left the Republican Party a shambles".

Also, she did something that Huckabee never can, due to physiology: bring a down syndrome baby into the world, proving she really walks the walk.

Huckabee appeals to people who don't care about anything other than religion. And the Fair-Tax crowd, and that's about it.

I have a strong libertarian streak and I would never support the Huckster. Sarah is my first and only choice.

Tbone July 9, 2009 4:08 PM  

Great job RAM. You do an outstanding job of defending Gov. Palin. Thanks.

RINO-hunter July 9, 2009 4:19 PM  

LOL, poor little unemployed, basement-dwelling, pant-shitting, pothead loser trolls just can't quit her.

Yogi41 July 9, 2009 4:19 PM  

Palin's biggest group of supporters are young, unmarried, and not social conservative evangelicals.
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Which is one reason why she would be a huge hit on college campus speaking engagements. It would be quite a coup if she snatched the young away from Obama and back into her fold. Slowly, over these next 3 years, she will nibble a little here and a little there, until she makes quite a dent in his base.

Greg July 9, 2009 4:20 PM  

Well, if her supporters don't know what Dingell-Norwood is, that would include me, have no idea what it is and couldn't care less.

I'm older, married, non-religious, conservative, who has voted for dems, repubs, and 3rd party candidates over the years, even once voting for the Socialist Workers Party in a local election. As for Sarah Palin, she is the ONLY politician I've ever been interested in, and the ONLY one I've donated money to, and is the ONLY one I'll work to see get elected.

The fact that Jim Robinson of Free Republic endorses her is really big. I think when it comes right down to it, Palin will pick up the lions share of the Evangelical vote over Huckabee. I'm still hoping that between now and 2010 SarahPAC will generate enough money from enough people, giving Palin a huge donor base, and that it will scare off even Huckabee. All the others know they can't compete when it comes to drawing crowds, and if they can't realisticly compete in fundraising, Pawlenty, Gingrich, and hopefully, Huckabee will not run, leaving it to Palin and Romney to duke it out, and that won't even be a contest.

Land of Da Free July 9, 2009 4:25 PM  

I don't know any organizational, policy or speech writing problem that couldn't be solved by hiring Dick Morris.

TommyReport July 9, 2009 4:27 PM  

McCain is on Meet the Press this Sunday. I wonder what he'll have to say about Palin.

Doug B. July 9, 2009 4:34 PM  

Great piece as usual RAM. I also agree with some other comments here that plenty of the socialcon vote will go to her and not Huckabee. Huckabee may be socially conervative but is not conservative in any other way. She will only have to split the socialcon vote with Huckabee to blow him away in the primaries, although I think she'll get a majority of that vote at the end of the day. I'm not even sure Huckster will run. He's not the brightest bulb in the chandelier but he can't possibly think he can beat her with the base and he sure won't appeal to the beltway. The only way he runs is if she sits out 2012.

Debtstar July 9, 2009 4:35 PM  

sjk , why the long face.

Don't you feel you "won" , she resigned.

And like a demon , she'll haunt you.

juju July 9, 2009 4:35 PM  

sjk: Nice to see you. Thought you might be out still watching for the iceberg. Guess you were wrong about that, SUCKER. Just like you are wrong about your post here.. SUCKER.

Sarah managed to cut all you iceberg watchers off at the knees. Maybe that is why you haven't had the time to read the polls that show, that the majority ddidn't see anything wrong with what she did and some even thought it was very good.

HEY...LOOK...QUICK..LOOK...LOOK
gEZZZ...YOU JUST MISSED THE ICEBERG.

Sarah can't comment now...she is on the way to the bank. Laughing all the way at suckers like you.

Brooks5 July 9, 2009 4:37 PM  

Good post RAM, as usual. (Although I kind of do see her as the preferable social conservative candidate - not preachy, just living it.)

It really is funny how so many Beltway pundits are misunderstanding her resignation. Because they misunderstand her. And us. "She's a quitter!" "She was pushed out!" "What if every Governor decided the critics were too tough and just up and left?!"

The way I see it, she wasn't "pushed out" at all. If anything, she was "pulled" out, by those millions of us you refer to in your post. The last thing the silly little people who allegedly pushed her wanted was this. They wanted either to destroy her or to control her. Not to free her. They wanted her to die on their battlefield, not move on to fight on a bigger, more welcoming one.

It is true that everything changed after August 29. We saw the candidate we had been looking for for a long time. Her enemies saw that we saw that and tried to box her in, shackle her and convince us we were seeing something else. Nice try, but as techno would say "she is what she is."

It's unfortunate for Alaska that she wasn't able to return to the job she did so well, but her destiny is clearly elsewhere. I hate that she and her family have had to put up with the crap, but she wasn't "pushed out" in the way so many claim she was. She saw where she needed to be and she went there. I for one am happy to be there with her.

oldnwise July 9, 2009 4:39 PM  

sjk,


Well, Well, Well...

Hey Punk...

How's your mother?

sandra July 9, 2009 4:44 PM  

Rino-hunter: What do you have against unemployed people? There are an awful lot of us down here in the basement.

wjshipley July 9, 2009 4:53 PM  

Well I have to say I consider myself a moderate libertarian who leans conservative. Reagan, who I was originally uncomfortable with, taught me that it's important for leaders to have clear values that you understand and can count on, even if you don't necessarily agree with all of them.

I think that is what the Republicans who want to move to the center are missing. The people who are undecided are not looking for undecided leaders, they want decisive leadership.

I do see more than a small amount of libertarianism in Alaska and Governor Palin. My perception, right or wrong, of her is that she's a mixture of Ronald Reagan and Barry Goldwater.

Doug B. July 9, 2009 4:53 PM  

Rino-Hunter,
I have a feeling those "poor little unemployed, basement-dwelling, pant-shitting, pothead loser trolls" will follow her wherever she goes, along with Shannyn Moore with her cell phone camera, trying to get some pictures of Governor Palin's legs and toes. The problem now for them, of course, is they won't be able to file frivolous ethics charges anymore. They may even need to find jobs. The horror!

Western July 9, 2009 4:53 PM  

Palin's social populism can counter against the greed and corruption of Wall Street firms (which by the way over the last 20 years have contributed heavily toward the Democratic party rather than Republicans).

Major financial Wall Street firms poured major money into Obama's campaign.

Turn the tables on the Democrats--they are the party of Greed.

juju July 9, 2009 4:54 PM  

Haver you read the Sally Quinn article posted on Greta Wire. What a hit piece on Sarah. I do believe that woman's middle name begins with a "B". She says, she does not believe for a minute anyone did a
number on Trig. That Palin is not telling her the truth.

Just proves that she knows nothing about Sarah or her life.

Doug B. July 9, 2009 5:00 PM  

Ju-Ju,
Sally Quinn is irrelevent. She only has a job because she's married to Ben Bradlee. The only people who read her columns are a few rich liberals in the DC-NY corridor who are in the news business such as Maureen Dowd. I would be worried if she praised Governor Palin. That would be cause for concern.

wisetrog July 9, 2009 5:02 PM  

Is there a competition running among barbarians to outdo each other in the writing department? Seriously, each post is magic.

juju, you're getting terrific at slamming the trolls. That makes you part of the gorgeous diva trio we have here: nancy, lipstick, juju.

wisetrog July 9, 2009 5:04 PM  

who are terrific at troll hunting.

ZH July 9, 2009 5:06 PM  

Excellent piece.

juju July 9, 2009 5:06 PM  

Wise: Thanks, those are my favorite types of posts. Guess I am a fighter and I love smacking them around. My hubby probably loves it too, then I don't try to smack him around. lol

MarkRNY July 9, 2009 5:10 PM  

Stigall's article is great, but after listing a litany of reasons why Sarah's virtually unbeatable, he says "perhaps she's unelectable...". That's a way to cover your ass. There's something about Sarah that still makes him nervous and he's not quite sure how her resignation will play out yet.

I prefer Anne Coulter's one word description of Sarah and her choice to resign--"Magificent". No wiggle room there!

Add this to the equation of "electability"--Energy! By the time 12 rolls around, that issue will be front and center.

As the Punk and his minions begin to crash and burn, the only thing that can stop her from being our next POTUS is her not choosing to run---IMO!

techno July 9, 2009 5:10 PM  

Sally Quinn is like Levi Johnston: they only bring her off the bench when Sarah begins to make major traction and the Left need a bitch to behave like one as she endeavors to cut Sarah Palin off at the knees.

wisetrog July 9, 2009 5:15 PM  

Our friend Frum comes out of the closet:
http://www.gop12.com/2009/07/frum-its-going-to-be-romney-vs-romney.html

Dan C July 9, 2009 5:19 PM  

Perfectly stated RAM.

Firelight July 9, 2009 5:19 PM  

Great article.

I am a 30ish married independent conservative that has a grace based faith and I will vote for no one other than Sarah and I would write her in if she didn't run.

I want to add the opinion of my most important intellectual, my 5 yr old daughter. She informed me that Sarah is a Tinker fairy, she fixes things....

For anyone that hasn't see the new Tinker Bell movie, I highly suggest it. Tinker bell comes to terms that she isn't part of the elite fairy establishment, she is part of the earthy misfit tinkers. Once she embraces this role, she uses her practical genius and saves spring just like Sarah is going to save America!

At least this is how my 5 year old explained it to me, lol.

Lipstick July 9, 2009 5:22 PM  

All you people are crazy.

Palin is dead in the water. She is finished. She is in 14:59 of her 15 minutes.

Why else would a resigning governor of the far away state of Alaska be on the cover of TIME magazine?

It is over.

Sarc.

RINO-hunter July 9, 2009 5:26 PM  

Sandra,

Nothing, really, as I'll probably be unemployed myself within a couple months. I just wanted to slap SJK around, that's all. My comments were directed at SJK, not you.

wisetrog July 9, 2009 5:29 PM  

Interesting. Goldfarb sees her topping national security poll as spillover from Mccain campaign. Keep in mind that she did impress them with her national security answers n that's what got her the nod over her competitors. I am imagining that in 2012 she hits Mitt for wavering on Iraq just as Mccain did. That would be kewl.

http://www.weeklystandard.com/weblogs/TWSFP/2009/07/hawks_like_palin.asp

Dan C July 9, 2009 5:29 PM  

I vote now on pretty much only 2 issues. Economy/free markets and national security/energy security so you can see why I would like Palin. Her social values show me she has conviction and character but I was originally attracted to her because of her defense of free markets. She actually inspired me to start a blog defending free markets and individual liberty against the government intrusion we see now. I usually write about investing, (since I do that for a living) economics, and how the government is handling it, but today I wrote a post about Palin being unorthodox and how it is the key to success. Also if you want to read a scathing indictment of Obama and Geithner's handling of the economy, check out my post on march 7. I think you will like it. www.solitudeholdings.com/blog1

Nancy July 9, 2009 5:30 PM  

"Dingell-Norwood", isn't that the name of the lunch RAM handed to one Jay Ramras last week?

Or maybe it's what ya call what C4P did to Jay Ramras in that thread last night.

"What happened to you, Jay?"
Shaking his head, "dingell-norwood"
"Huh, back where I come from, they're called wedgies."


Hey RAM,
Governor Palin needs to "Collect a coterie of sharp minds loyal to her vision", I hope Governor Palin will collect you soon!:)

Toki De La Vega July 9, 2009 5:32 PM  

sandra said...
Rino-hunter: What do you have against unemployed people? There are an awful lot of us down here in the basement.
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How disgusting! They're living together.

It must be like one big hippie commune. I hope you have a regular bathing schedule, Pinko.

Nancy July 9, 2009 5:33 PM  

wisetrog,
You are a very encouraging and kind person! Thank you!

portlandon July 9, 2009 5:33 PM  

OT: Hannity will have Frank Luntz on who will have done polling on how Palin's resignation is being felt through the electorate.

It should be interesting.

upinak July 9, 2009 5:33 PM  

So Nancy,

Why don't you ask RAM why she was up here?

Nancy July 9, 2009 5:34 PM  

RAM,
Why were you up in Alaska?:)

Nancy July 9, 2009 5:36 PM  

I have a feeling there is going to be an ordinary barbarian cheer going up soon!

upinak July 9, 2009 5:37 PM  

Nancy.. I live here.

RAM does not.

Toki De La Vega July 9, 2009 5:41 PM  

Firelight said...
elite fairy establishment
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Snobby bitches...

sandra July 9, 2009 5:42 PM  

Toki: That is an amusing image. One big basement housing the unemployed with one computer. Thanks for the laugh.

Western July 9, 2009 5:44 PM  

Both David Frum (www.theweek.com) and Mike Murphy (NY daily news article) have hit pieces out today--mostly Murphy.

After Palin's resignation, they assumed her poll numbers among Republicans would decline significantly.

Quite the contrary, her poll numbers among conservatives have been steady and strong since the resignation.

These guys need to wake up and re-examine their conservative beliefs assuming they even have any.

Nancy July 9, 2009 5:46 PM  

sjk,
deepinnerthoughtstroll was wondering last night why we at C4P don't ask about your inner troll selves. I think this particular troll was losing its way. So as not to make you feel we only see trolls here at C4P as doormats, or material for our entertainment.


I want to ask you, how is your trollific heart doing? Is the trolling going well today, or are you having a rough trollagaging day?

I'm reaching out to you, to help you!


And,

oh, how



do I say


this!







yourflyisopen!

juju July 9, 2009 5:51 PM  

These are the Romney people. They just need to get their licks in. They feel threatened. Romney was going here going there giving his little speeches for the last several months. Sarah never said a word or her supporters had little to say, because we know we have little to fear from Romney. But, Romney sends out his hit people to do their number of Sarah. Big wow.

I can hardly wait until Sarah is free and we can see her go from place to place to cheering crowds.

RINO-hunter July 9, 2009 6:04 PM  

Western,

Frum is the King Moby.

Oh, and O/T but totally worth it: Barry looking to get his ass kicked by Michelle: http://minx.cc/?post=289515

cookboy July 9, 2009 6:05 PM  

It's nice that you refer to elected representatives as such. The media and punditry have for years now referred to them as lawmakers. If they're making laws, they're usually screwing up, and more frequently wasting money. The codebook is like a garden tended by a drunk. It needs to bee weeded and thinned so the good productive plants can flourish and produce. It ain't rocket science.
"In style, in character, and in manner, in all things, the supreme excellence is simplicity." Longfellow

RINO-hunter July 9, 2009 6:07 PM  

RE: my last post, check out the bemused look on Sarkozy's face as he watches Zero ogling that woman's ass

Nancy July 9, 2009 6:08 PM  

upinak,
Were you guys able to meet? And if so, was there any hunting going on?:)

Dan C July 9, 2009 6:09 PM  
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Dan C July 9, 2009 6:10 PM  

If Sarah ever gets a chance to debate Obama, I hope she says flat out that as President she will not be bowing down to foreign leaders and apologizing for america on foreign soil. That will raise the roof with republicans and indys and even some dems.

TommyReport July 9, 2009 6:13 PM  

More Ram:

http://www.newsminer.com/news/2009/jul/09/closer-look-palin-finances-she-steps-down/

Doug B. July 9, 2009 6:13 PM  

RINO Hunter,
That picture is funny as hell!

Nancy July 9, 2009 6:21 PM  

upinak,
You're awesome!:)

Beehive July 9, 2009 6:22 PM  

Hey the Guv is in Fairbanks tomorrow signing a bill for gun rights.

She is going to be on the Michael Dukes radio show KFAR.

The article about it is in the Newsminer. Here's an intersesting little snippet. You'll never guess who will be calling in. This is gonna be good.


Gun rights enthusiasts, including rock 'n roller turned avid hunter Ted Nugent, are expected to call in to a talk radio show in Fairbanks, where Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin has scheduled an appearance.

Nugent will be calling in to KFAR radio during Michael Dukes' two-hour show on Friday.



http://newsminer.com/news/2009/jul/09/palin-sign-gun-rights-bills-friday-fairbanks/

Bill in Baltimore July 9, 2009 6:34 PM  

RAM,

welcome back and slam-fantastic article !

Brianus Berkleianus July 9, 2009 6:45 PM  

Thanks so much, Rebecca!!!

Yes, that is part of the glory, the wisdom of Victor: he can plow the earth, having once been a farmer in the Fresno area, or plow the complexities of a Greek text. As he told our Greek History class, when the PC crowd at Stanford was giving him grief and threatening his academic livelihood, "I can always go back to farming."

The man was not afraid of these people.

We need to abolish the tenure system, and get 10,000 more VDH's into our universities!!

Brianus

latinchic July 9, 2009 6:52 PM  

Check out this girl on Gretawire defending Palin:

http://gretawire.blogs.foxnews.com/2009/07/09/check-this-out-2/

Check out her site:

http://www.pro-sarah.com/

Brianus Berkleianus July 9, 2009 6:55 PM  

And, since Sarah is the Jacksonian outsider now, it might be appropriate to send her bucket fulls of "Andy Jacksons," $20 bills, that is...or at least $20 contributions!! :-)

Brianus

Smilin' Jon July 9, 2009 6:55 PM  

So glad I found this site. I'm on the eastern seaboard in Virginia, but have roots in Idaho. When I heard Sarah speak at the national convention, it hit me like a ton of bricks.... She gets it and we need her in Washingon.

Finally, I feel like I found a site to give me the true unfiltered Sarah Palin.

Brianus Berkleianus July 9, 2009 7:00 PM  

Abolish tenure?!?...here is real change WE can believe in, to make the whole Bill-Ayers crowd of university "educators" quake in their cowardly boots...and souls!!!

Brianus

jimr3 July 9, 2009 7:00 PM  

juju @ 4:54,

Jim Geraghty @ NRO does a nice job taking Quinn to task for her hit piece.

==========

Geraghty:

"It's Hard to Find Trig Palin Mockery If You Refuse to Look for It"

"The Washington Post's Sally Quinn: "One of the reasons, Palin said, was because they were upset that their 14-month-old brother Trig, who has Down Syndrome, was 'mocked and ridiculed by some pretty mean spirited adults.' I'd like to know the names of those mean-spirited adults who mocked and ridiculed her special needs child. I don't believe it for a second."

"Perhaps the kindest response I can make is that not everyone is as nice as you, Ms. Quinn*."

"There's this web site called "Google," Ms. Quinn, and it can be quite helpful in circumstances like these. You type in "Trig Palin mockery" and you'll find examples and discussion of photoshops of Trig Palin here, here, here (contending Palin "fed the beast with her stupid anger") and here and here, including a faux Planned Parenthood ad featuring Trig and a wire hanger with the label "Better Luck Next Time." There are terrible, cold-hearted people in this world, Ms. Quinn, and it's hard not to empathize with Sarah Palin's outrage, and perhaps the calculation that this treatment of her children was too high a price to pay to remain in the spotlight."

"It's easier to "not believe it for a second" when you also refuse to "look for it for a minute."

"* When I read Quinn write, "Palin knew that Letterman was making a joke about Bristol, but she still dragged poor Willow into the mud as well," I conclude, "Maybe you're not so nice, after all."

http://tinyurl.com/leudf4

Steven July 9, 2009 7:08 PM  

We are being bombarded by Palin press. Another from the NY Times

http://roomfordebate.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/07/09/whats-sarah-palins-political-future/?hp

This is more press than she got before she resigned. The obsession continues. The only question, can C4P keep up?

section9 July 9, 2009 7:09 PM  

Great article, Rebecca. What you've done is to nail Sarah's Jacksonianism.

Jacksonians are muscular about foreign policy, but what I suspect you won't see out of Palin is the notion of foreign expeditions for the sake of it. Americans are done with that kind of thing, and if there is one politician who has their finger on the pulse of the public, it's Palin.

Firelight July 9, 2009 7:15 PM  

Latinchic:

I am watching this skype video on Gretawire and it seems like Greta has turned on Sarah.

Could this be true??? Does anyone know if Greta and her husband have turned on Sarah??

TommyReport July 9, 2009 7:18 PM  

Here's Meg:

Meg went a step further at one point telling me, "I just hope to God Rahm Emanuel isn't using taxpayer money to come after Alaska." That's the way they think about it: that these Alaskans filing ethics complaints have been hoodwinked by Obama operatives into wasting the Alaskan government's time and resources. They believe that with Palin gone, the state will no longer face this barrage of "frivolous" compliants. On that point, they are probably right -- there will be much less interest in filing complaints against Lt. Gov. Sean Parnell. Palin, Meg said, was their target all along because she "represents the biggest threat to Obama. She's the only one who can get the base excited."

http://swampland.blogs.time.com/2009/07/09/a-final-palin-post/#more-14455

TommyReport July 9, 2009 7:19 PM  

It's pretty funny to see the left attack Jay-Newton Small for her Palin article, hahaha.

Patty Hewes July 9, 2009 7:22 PM  

WooooO!!

Time get that national staff on your corner!

Lead the movement!

latinchic July 9, 2009 7:24 PM  

I've never thought that Greta was on "Sarah's side" other than defending her from sexism.

She's a liberal through and through. She's just one of my faves because she's a nice one. In regards to her comments in the vid, I just think she's been in D.C. too long. Like most political pundits, she's used to the conventional way of doing things. I really don't fault people too much for that myself. What's funny is that what we have here is the potential to surprise everybody. That same thing that everyone thinks should bury her politically, could be the very thing that impresses everyone in the end.

We'll see. ;-)

TommyReport July 9, 2009 7:29 PM  

Back to the TIME article but when did Palin insinuate something about Obama's religion? I can certainly see how Jay Newton Small could conclude she raised flags as to his patriotism but what statement of hers can reasonably be interpreted as one about his religion?

GoneWithTheRINO July 9, 2009 7:29 PM  

I can't get the video...what did Greta say?

By the way, McCain will be on MTP this weekend. Who wants to bet he trashes Sarah?

juju July 9, 2009 7:37 PM  

I think they may be referring to Rev. Wright. Re: Obama could sit there for 20 years with this man as his pastor and not know how he felt about America, 9/11, etc. Sarah talked about it during the campaign.

Yogi41 July 9, 2009 7:37 PM  

Firelight,

How has Greta turned on Palin? Can you give specifics from the video, please?

Firelight July 9, 2009 7:41 PM  

Oh geesh, let's hope McCain keeps his mouth shut. If he can't say anything nice, I hope he just doesn't say anything at all.

However, Palin sure talks him up. I have a hard time thinking if they really hated each other and he really blamed her for the loss that she would even mention him.

Who knows. I am sure Meghan McCain is writing something she thinks is juicy for her book.

As for Greta, I think there was a point that she really liked Sarah and Todd. I know her husband was a huge fan but he didn't say positive things in the Time article and Greta has been backing away lately. I just wonder what gives.

I think Palin's team needs to be careful blaming Obama. I like Meg's comments now but I don't think they should harp on it or they start to look tin foil hattish. I could already see a thread in the TIME article of painting Sarah as paranoid and obsessed with her critics. I don't like that at all.

Firelight July 9, 2009 7:46 PM  

Yogi41 -

I just think in her skype that Greta is really hammering the fact that Sarah should have stayed and she was a quitter. She said that Sarah should have changed the ethics law so that she didn't have to deal with this stuff. She also stated that Hillary was treated worse which shocked me that Greta would say that.

Hillary was treated very poorly but nothing compared to what the entire Palin clan has had to deal with. Hillary also wasn't harassed in her job as Senator in the same way as Palin.

Greta has been more dedicated to her defense of Sarah in the past and now she seems to be backing away from Sarah as a person and just focusing on sexism.

That was just my take on it.

T. D. July 9, 2009 7:46 PM  

"The permanent political punditry on the right and the left really don't understand average schmoes like us. The current batch of rightwing pundits are graduates of the Reagan years and yet they no longer really understand what made him new because they themselves have grown old."

Unfortunately they are not old enough to remember Barry Goldwater. He was slandered as a nutty extremist. Instead of trying to find someone better, without his baggage, conservative pundits back then, like those at National Review, stood up for him, even though he was just slandered and not slapped with half a million in unjust legal costs to defend his name.

A little later conservative pundits even defended a partially conservative Nixon and a not too classy, but law and order conservative, Agnew (before the evidence came in that they were both dishonest). Because they were better than the Democrat alternative.

With a few exceptions, conservative political pundits have become irrelevant to practical political conservativism. Good ideas on policy are worthless if you can't get conservative people elected or attract people to your events.

Gov. Palin lives out conservative values in her life. She lives them out in her political policy.

Look at her state. She saved during the good times and tripled the state savings in her short term in office. In the last four months, Alaska has been one of the top two states in good employment trends either for that month or year-to-date. Read the Bureau of Labor Statistics reports (which apparently most conservative pundits don't have a clue about).

C4P has published and linked to more political wisdom in the last week than I've read in three months in the conservative publications I subscribe to. Not good news for their future.

Yogi41 July 9, 2009 7:47 PM  

Well, you know how well that works with the media, Firelight. Palin or Meg have to only say it once, but the media will report it and drive it to death, so it is perceived as if Palin is making an issue of it.

It's out there now and we'll see if the media pounces on that comment to create a new controversy. My guess is that they will.

JeanA July 9, 2009 7:51 PM  

I thought Greta was fair.

wjshipley July 9, 2009 7:52 PM  

I got the impression that Greta really liked Governor Palin, and that she also liked the ratings that she got from covering her. After the correspondent's banquet when Todd was her guest, she got a lot of people talking about how she was in the Palin's camp.

I think she's deliberately trying to distance herself in order to avoid accusations of bias.

Although accusations of bias don't seem to bother Obama's acolytes.

techno July 9, 2009 7:52 PM  

Firelight:

It's an open secret that Obama and his war room is directly or indirectly responsible for all the aggravation that has beset Sarah and put her under siege for the last 10 months. Do you really the activity of the anklebiters is not organized by somebody way smarter than Celtic Diva and Andree MacLeod?

Hell, Emanuel, George S, Carville and Begala meet every day for coffee.

Yogi41 July 9, 2009 7:52 PM  

Firelight,

Thank you for explaining.

One thing about the comparison between Hillary and Sarah's treatment: there is no question that Hillary was treated horribly by her own party and the media - the comments and treatment were vicious.

HOWEVER, here is the difference. Both women were maligned and mistreated during the campaign, but with Sarah Palin, it did not end when the campaign ended.

If Hillary was treated as poorly as Palin is while Hillary was a Senator, bombarded daily with ethics complaints and charges, Chelsea attacked monthly, dumped on by the media and her party on a daily basis so that it interrupted her work progress, I wonder if she would have resigned or stayed?

That's where these pundits don't quite get it. They say that every politician gets this kind of treatment, but it's not true that every politician gets this kind of treatment WHILE TRYING TO DO HIS/HER ELECTED DUTIES.

Therein is the difference and I wish someone would point that out.

Firelight July 9, 2009 7:54 PM  

Yeah, I know. I do think that is exactly what is going on. I don't think the Meg, Sarah or even Van Flein would bring it up if there wasn't good evidence to support it.

I just don't trust the media and the MSM is something that no conservative can control.

Doug B. July 9, 2009 7:56 PM  

Time for some comic relief. Check out the picture headlining on Drudge, along with the caption.

http://www.drudgereport.com/

Yogi41 July 9, 2009 8:00 PM  

Yeah, Doug, I saw that over on HotAir. I realize the expression of the Obama and Sarkozy (sp?) is funny, but the comments about the young girl, she's only 16, are disgusting. Talking about her body parts, and when I called them on it, they're like "oh, we're just making fun of Obama".

They don't get this is an underage girl and comments about her should be off limits.

section9 July 9, 2009 8:00 PM  

Look, once the "Majority" Republicans in the State Senate and the Murkowski faction, as well as the State Democratic caucus, found out how easy it was for others to attack Sarah with her own ethics law, why should they have lifted a finger helping Sarah out of a jam?

You think Jay Ramras or Halcro give a damn about the fact that Kellen Biegel and her friends were trying to bankrupt Palin? Not a freaking chance. They weren't going to help Palin adjust the ethics laws, not after Palin beat their buddy Frank.

Nope, any reform or streamlining of the ethics laws will come once Parnell is on the job. This is something Greta should have figured out.

Bill in Baltimore July 9, 2009 8:03 PM  
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Nancy July 9, 2009 8:11 PM  

My favorite line from the TIME article: Governor Palin is "a walking middle finger to the BosNYWash elite."

So true.

Firelight July 9, 2009 8:12 PM  

Well they always say when you are playing tug -a-war and the other team is bigger and has more people the best way to win is to let go of the rope. Those same people will fall flat into the same mudhole that they have been slinging from and you can just walk away.

I think this is exactly what Sarah did and I hope they drown in their own mudhole.

Doug B. July 9, 2009 8:13 PM  

Yogi,
I liked the caption:

"Second Stimulus Package!"

Dee July 9, 2009 8:14 PM  

I think it was a mistake for them to say that the ethic complaint trail comes from Washington. That is a fight they didn't have to pick IMO.

wisetrog July 9, 2009 8:17 PM  

Looks like they are explicitly throwing challenges to Obama. Even van Flein said something to the effect, I guess.

Dee July 9, 2009 8:18 PM  

Its stupid. Why are they doing that? No reason to do that right now.

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TommyReport July 9, 2009 8:23 PM  

New Majority is down 8% the last three months in terms of visits by the way.

juju July 9, 2009 8:26 PM  

When I was at IM today, a number of their posts were people telling them that they were upset for the left AK. bloggers bringing all the rumors (iceberg) to the fore front and it ended up being nothing but rumors. They then said, you just made her quit and she will come to the lower 48 and we all will have to put up with her.

I don't know if these were really leftie bloggers or trolls pretending to be leftie bloggers, but it was interesting.

Debtstar July 9, 2009 8:27 PM  

Dee , when a lawyer does this , they got stuff to show.

They would never risk attacking Obama without some solid base .

Debtstar July 9, 2009 8:29 PM  

Juju , looks like the got more than they asked for..

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Dee July 9, 2009 8:31 PM  

Deb

I certainly hope they have the "trail" that leads to Obama, but I just don't know if she should have brought this up right now. People might think she is petty and "complaining."

juju July 9, 2009 8:31 PM  

Wise & Dee..I disagree with you. I don't think they need to keep that up, but I think they are saying just as a warning "we are watching you",
"we aren't stupid".

DC and all the king's men think Sarah is stupid and wouldn't have the nerve to say such a thing or know how to find out. You never know when the enemy has someone that will be a turn coat. Do they want to keep going after Palin and risk that?

Tony July 9, 2009 8:32 PM  

Great article RAM

Regarding McCain, either he'll say something endearing toward Palin, which nobody will really care, or he'll attack her, which nobody will really care.

wisetrog July 9, 2009 8:35 PM  

Whether they r wise in doing that or not, it just shows that Palin outsmarted the entire establishment Democrat, Republican n MSM and she is playing th game at the WH level too. Nice for an Alaska hilly-billy.

NoMoRino's July 9, 2009 8:38 PM  

You know this Beltway crap about her sitting down with a lamp and some books and some white papers and then coming out of the cabin in the wilderness when she learns how to speak like the snobs in D.C. is just B.S.

Presumably that means,
Read the elitist books, call on them for advice, read their highly important columns in the rags (NYT/WaPo), and treat their precious egos to the respect they deserve.

ONE WORD: LOSERS!!

What our family (who walk the streets with signs and such for McCain/Palin in Nov) likes is she is NOT ONE OF THEM!!!

We despise (and I used to be a loyal Republican, sent them money, called, worked Election night in Florida 2000) what the Republican party has turned into. Whenever the GOP sends out their "surveys" and their letters begging for money I just write on the letters what I think of the party and send it back to them in their envelope!!! I also send money to SARAHPAC instead of the G.O.P.

We despise:
The gutlessness of the GOP leadership.

The complete bending over to the Marxist BHO.

TARP, Stimulus1, Cap & Trade, the RINOs that are more interested in being on "Hardball" than they are standing up for what is right!!!

ARE YOU LISTENING GOP....WE USED TO BE YOUR BASE!!!!


1-20-13, the PEOPLE take the nation back at noon.

Be there!!!

section9 July 9, 2009 8:38 PM  

No, people don't understand. Everything is deniable with Axelrod and Rahm. Nothing can be traced. As long as it is understood on the part of the lefty bloggers and activists what to do, they can do it on their own. The whole idea is to use cutouts. But trust me on this, the Administration wanted Palin broken and, if possible, bankrupted out of politics.

That's the Chicago Way.

The only thing that the Obama Administration was probably going to do overtly was kill the pipeline and help Denali. Had Sarah remained Governor, no way was that pipeline going to go forward as we understood it.

What they didn't anticipate was Sarah sidestepping their goons to get out of their line of fire. Now the Lefties are probably bitching because Sarah is free to Move About the Country. In one fell swoop, Axelrod's strategy was undone.

karenfromny July 9, 2009 8:40 PM  

There is no way Meg Stapleton is going to say this without proof. My guess sometime in August you are going to see Gov. Palin officially make the connection between Emanuel, Rouse, Elton and the ethics investigations.

http://swampland.blogs.time.com/2009/07/09/a-final-palin-post/#more-14455

wisetrog July 9, 2009 8:43 PM  

But there was widespread rumors at least in Alaska abt her stepping down. Wouldn't the Axelrove people know about it?

ellen July 9, 2009 8:43 PM  

Question: When Reagan was getting started in politics was he compared to anyone? If so, who? (I have no idea because I wasn't even born)

I feel like people compare Palin to Reagan a lot, which can be a very good thing. At the same time I feel like Sarah Palin is the first Sarah Palin, and not the next Ronald Reagan.

juju July 9, 2009 8:44 PM  

Section 9: You are so right. I use to live in Chicago and later in So. Illinois. It is amazing how the people of Ill. just accept this stuff. It was happening back during the Kennedy/Nixon election. I don't know if it can ever be stopped or if
people really care that live in Illinois.

JeanA July 9, 2009 8:46 PM  

Alaskans go vote

Should lawmakers call a special session to override Gov. Sarah Palin's veto of $28.56 million in federal energy conservation money?

http://www.ktuu.com/

juju July 9, 2009 8:50 PM  

I was old enough to vote for Reagan.
The only thing I remember Reagan being compared to was an idiot. They thought he was dumb, nothing but a 3rd rate actor. He was too old. He knew nothing about being Pres. He was a sportscaster, he went to some 3rd rate Illinois college, he was divorced, they threw everything at him. He had a great campaign staff. And, they knew how to present him visually that was superior to anything ever seen before.

It was a great campaign and election time I am glad I was part of it.

wisetrog July 9, 2009 8:54 PM  

I thought Kondracke was a conservative. looks not. BTW, his, Frum's, Murphy's all articles have the same talking points, down to similar phrases. Looks like these idiots are all on conference calls. Would that just one of those calls were leaked.


The cat's out of the bag. Frum admits that Sarah can win the primary. All these days they were talking about unelectable she is, telling her to hit the books etc. That was all hogwash to keep her at bay. She didn't listen to them n they r scared. Now Frum admits even in the form of a rant, they know she'll win the primary. Friends, they are getting frantic. When she announced, they did everything they could to damage her and yet her support is unshakeable. FR is on fire today because they understand too that the battle has begun. Initial skirmishes have finished. We've entered the main war.

Doug B. July 9, 2009 8:56 PM  

JuJu,
I remember that too about Reagan. I turned 18 about 6 weeks before the 1980 election and he was the first candidate I voted for. I remember the Democrat ads basically saying he was a cowboy, a dumb third rate actor, who made movies with chimps and never got the girl. But thankfully the voters knew different. Palin does get compared a lot to Reagan but she is her own person and, I suspect, in the future good conservative candidates will be called "the next Sarah Palin" just as she is now called "the next Ronald Reagan". She is a lot younger than Reagan and can potentially have a much greater impact. On January 20, 2013 the Palin Revolution will begin!

Doug B. July 9, 2009 8:58 PM  

wisetrog,
Kondracke is a liberal and always has been. He is the liberal foil to Fred Barnes' conservative on FNC's The Beltway Boys. Fred Barnes does seem to be heading down the RINO path of late though.

EdFab July 9, 2009 9:05 PM  

Re: Greta souring on Palin. Greta is simply maintaining a facade of being impartial. She's been walking a very slender tightrope for quite some time, and it was obvious to her that April (if that's the skytyper's name) was defending Sarah more than adequately. I'm sure Greta is well-aware of the political impasse that's going on in Alaska. Plus she wasn't exactly hammering on the issue of Sarah's resignation. She gave up all the air time necessary to let April get her point across.

Conservativeguy July 9, 2009 9:06 PM  

Hi everybody! I just want to thank you for allowing me to post from time to time. Even though I lean toward Mitt, most of you treated me pretty decently.

I say this because yesterday, I went to freerepublic, and posted 3 very carefully worded comments somewhat supporting Mitt Romney, and saying nothing bad at all about any other candidate. For no reason other than what I just said, I got banned. Lots of other Romney people haven't been getting banned recently also, and for doing nothing improper at all.

Thanks again for allowing me my two cents worth. God bless you all!

JeanA July 9, 2009 9:08 PM  

On July 26, 2009 the Palin Revolution will begin!

KentonAK July 9, 2009 9:08 PM  

"Sarah Palin is our voice- When they laugh at her,we feel them laughing at us" -RAM


Well said Rebecca!

Al B. July 9, 2009 9:09 PM  

"Amiable Dunce" is the phrase that the media used on Reagan.

He stumbled his way to winning the Cold War. Man oh man, do I miss him.

Palin actually could make a bigger impact because of her youth.

Al B. July 9, 2009 9:10 PM  

CG --

If you're a Romney guy (and you are), FR is not for you. Jim Robinson owns the site and he has made his position clear.

Dan C July 9, 2009 9:11 PM  

Ya know what really bugs me? David Frum and his ilk attack Sarah Palin more then OBAMA! Palin has not added 1 dollar to our debt, Obama will literally add at least 10 trilion if he is elected for a second term! Obama is bowing down to foreign leaders and saying "I'm sorry" for America. Where is Frums venom for that!? He is helping Obama by attacking her, it is sickening. The guy is a disgrace.

wisetrog July 9, 2009 9:12 PM  

Jean A, it has already begun. It began on July 3rd. She didn't choose that date for nought.

Remember, the war has begun.

EdFab July 9, 2009 9:14 PM  

Wisetrog, Kondrake is a very rare invividual: a liberal who does not automatically put party over his principles. He's one of the few liberals worth listening to for the non-conservative side of an issue. In the TV show The Beltway Boys, he was paired with Barnes. Part of their standard quip at the end of the show: "From the right, Fred Barnes. From the left, Mort Kondrake."

Doug B. July 9, 2009 9:17 PM  

Conservative Guy,
Did you notice today on Free Republic that Jim Robinson, who founded Free republic, unambiguously endorsed Governor Palin in 2012?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2289058/posts

It seems that Mitten's support in the grass roots blogosphere is becomming as sparse as a typical crowd which shows up to hear him speak.

Yogi41 July 9, 2009 9:20 PM  

CG,

I thought Jim was quite clear when he posted a thread that FR was not a site that was ever, ever, ever going to support Romney. And today, Jim came out and said FR was going to endorse Sarah Palin.

I think he's just had it with Romney supporters going over to FR and posting negative things about Palin, knowing it's a pro-Palin site.

It's one of the reasons I love reading and posting over there. They don't take crap from anyone and are quick to defend their chosen candidate.

Considering his site is one of the top conservative sites on the web, in terms of users, Palin is lucky to have them in her corner.

A lot of us have tried to tell you that you will be more comfortable at the pro-Romney site, race42012, yet you continue to try to come onto pro-Palin sites and promote Romney.

Honestly, your attempts are futile, but since you continue to persist, don't be surprised when a site like FR bans you.

Conservativeguy July 9, 2009 9:22 PM  

No, Doug, I didn't go back today.
Actually, I think Mitt is sitting pretty good, but there is no sure thing of course. The PPP polls yesterday that showed 57% did not consider Sarah 'fit' for the Presidency, and only 38% saying she was 'fit' makes it difficult, but not impossible for Sarah to move in that direction. That's what Frum, and others are talking about.

Firelight July 9, 2009 9:24 PM  

If we really want a revolution we need to start a book club thread. We need to read, plan and strategize in regards to the online forums.

My first book suggestion is Rules for Radicals.

I say we read the other teams planbook and go from there.

Can we get an invite only thread so that people have to register to come in????

juju July 9, 2009 9:24 PM  

Well, if you want to hear the Romney supports and the Palin bashers just go to Race42012. I don't get it. We don't bash Romeny like they bash Palin. I can hardly stand to go there.

Doug B. July 9, 2009 9:26 PM  

Frum is a moron. The only polls that count are the ones which will take place in January and February of 2012. Mittens simply is not a conservative and will not attract many of those voters who vote in the GOP primary. I have no doubt he would win a beltway/RINO primary but fortunately there isn't one.

Al B. July 9, 2009 9:26 PM  

Yogi41 --

Gotta stick up for my home base. FR is THE conservative site for grassroots conservatives.

It is ranked # 3 worldwide for all political websites in traffic, behind only HuffPo and barely behind Fox News.

And you're right, there are plenty of viewpoints over there, some of them a little wacky at times with their large base, but Sarah Palin rules over there.

Gotta guard against the trolls though. They come out in droves at times, like just after her speech last Friday.

Order was quickly restored...LOL.

narciso July 9, 2009 9:26 PM  

Are you really surprised CG, besides Obama's war room, his staff are considered the most deliberate back stabbers, the ones behind the lies to Fox News, Newsweek, and most recently Vanity Fair, some like Mike Murphy,stab in the heart like the NY Daily News piece, which attacked those in the heartland, and those on the coasts that support her,

Tell us you've been here awhile, one unique reason why you think (or at one time you thought)she run for President.

EdFab July 9, 2009 9:27 PM  

One thing I think is beginning to eat away at the democrats is envy. Their golden boy is slipping in the polls, and the increasing disparity between what he promised to do and what his is actually doing has got to be dispiriting for them. July 26 is going to be like Aug 29 all over again, with a glorious and righteous fight looming dead ahead. But with a tremendous game-changing difference - her complete freedom to act according to her rock-solid beliefs shared by so many tens of millions of americans. She'll be the captain of her own good ship, not just someone else's cabin girl.

Meanwhile, we're not hearing so many rabid praises of "the one" from the democrats anymore, are we?

MarkRNY July 9, 2009 9:31 PM  

Her attorney wouldn't have made a peep about a probable DNC/Axlerod/Obama connection unless they had the goods. She'd have been sued for libel by this mob in a heartbeat.

They banked on her being fettered and unable to defend herself until the end of her term. By that time (they thought) she'd have been a failed governor--their having knee-capped everything she's started--and any mention by her of why things failed would have been labeled as sour grapes.

That they've kept stone cold silent about this accusation shows they're nervous.

The ethics complaints, IMO, IS the exact line to take. Show the world who and what she was up against--and WHY she "quit".

Alaska first! Her family and her future second. She's been trying to make this point (see the Andrea Mitchell interview).

wisetrog July 9, 2009 9:31 PM  

The absolutely disgusting thing about Frum is that he believes that Sarah will win the primary but he says she won't win the general but it's him and his likes who are making it tough for her. If they believe and they've admitted this, that she's gonna win the primary, then their incessant attacks on her can only weaken her in the general. Don't they have that much sense?

Dee July 9, 2009 9:31 PM  

I don't understand why people think Romney can win this time around. I really don't get it. He couldn't beat McCain, and you know if Romney enters the race, Huckabee will. It'll be Huckabee Vs. Romney all over again!

I like Palin better than all of them combined, although I'll vote for whomever just to try to stop the mess Obama is making!

portlandon July 9, 2009 9:31 PM  

OT: Willard steps in it big time!!

"Three years after the inception of Massachusetts’ landmark health reform legislation, which required every citizen to buy insurance, NewsCenter 5’s Ed Harding wondered what former Gov. Mitt Romney, a key political architect of the plan, thought of its progress.

Call it protecting his legacy, well-earned pride, or seeing the glass as half-full, but Romney says Massachusetts deserves an ‘A.’"

MittCare=ObamaCare.



http://www.thebostonchannel.com/health/20006248/detail.html

I'm sure the media will be ALL OVER THIS ONE....right?....right?..I mean they attack Palin for everything, they'll call Mittens on this won't they?

Hey ConservativeGuy, where are you?

Doug B. July 9, 2009 9:32 PM  

It would be cool, though impossible to plan, if there were nationwide grass roots "TEA Party-like" rallies on July 26th to celebrate Governor Palin's emancipation.

Dan C July 9, 2009 9:37 PM  

wisetrog, YES! It really bugs me. It hurts our own cause. So he will hurt us all through 2012 and then if we lose, he will say "i told ya so" while he was working against us the whole time!

Firelight July 9, 2009 9:39 PM  

Sarah was talking to Cheney recently. Cheney is ex-CIA if I am correct.

Think he had a hand in finding the dirt on the White House connection??

MarkRNY July 9, 2009 9:43 PM  

Doug B-"It would be cool, though impossible to plan, if there were nationwide grass roots "TEA Party-like" rallies on July 26th to celebrate Governor Palin's emancipation."

How about nationwide Pub Crawls?! I'll Pub Crawl all over Manhattan with a Sarah T Shirt...my insurance is paid up.

I'm interested in seeing what Greta will do tonight. I'd hate to lose her.

Doug B. July 9, 2009 9:45 PM  

Dee,
Not only couldn't Romney beat McCain, he couldn't even beat Huckabee. Think about that!

. July 9, 2009 9:45 PM  

I'm happy there are people out here that are supporting Sarah. She provides endless entertainment to all of us.

JeanA July 9, 2009 9:46 PM  

wisetrog,

You are so right.

It began on July 3rd.

narciso July 9, 2009 9:47 PM  

BTW, doesn't Luntz prove himself an enormous tool, or as Section says a Clyde, in ignoring the real reason she had to resign. Dismissing her popularity last fall, she knows how to campaign better than any other ten candidates.

Doug B. July 9, 2009 9:48 PM  

MarkRNY,
I have to ask...what is a Pub Crawl??

Doug B. July 9, 2009 9:49 PM  

I like Frank Luntz but those focus group things he does never seem to come close to predicting what he says they will. He's not in Scott Rasmussen's league.

Al B. July 9, 2009 9:53 PM  

Luntz is an entertainer. Rasmussen is a pollster.

MarkRNY July 9, 2009 9:53 PM  

Lol--Doug B, you crawl from Pub to Pub (being unable to walk by your 3rd one). Sort of a NY thing.

Doug B. July 9, 2009 9:53 PM  

C4Pers,
I am heading out now. I will be off the grid until Sunday late. I'm going to Put-in-Bay (Ohio) first thing in the morning for a weekend of fun and debauchery with my wife to celebrate our 19th wedding anniversary. Have a great weekend everyone!

Sarah Palin in 2012!

johnmd July 9, 2009 9:54 PM  

It's now time for the finger pointing to stop on why she quit, staying on this any longer is going to be counter productive. She is 16 days from walking away. Concentrate on the positives of her term or no one is going to remember them.After the 26 it's time to follow Patton's advice, attack attack and attack again. Hold speeches, fund raisers campaign for others go to Iowa in the fall , the tea party in dc and get them standing and cheering.

Doug B. July 9, 2009 9:55 PM  

MarkRNY,
I may be doing the Pub Crawl tomorrow then! Sounds like what we did in college at Kent State. We just had a different name for it which I can't recall.

Nancy July 9, 2009 9:55 PM  

portlandon:
I think Romney might have a skewed view of success. I think he was pretty proud of that pizza parlor listening tour event too.:)

Rick A. Evans July 9, 2009 9:58 PM  

Pamela Geller says, "Sarah Palin is our leader."

http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/

MarkRNY July 9, 2009 9:59 PM  

Didn't watch. I knew Luntz's "cutting edge" fad polling would be skewed.

Where was he getting his "random" sample from this time? San Francisco?

Hannity ought to know better (then again he's Hannity).

Thhat's why I hope Greta comes around!

CCRWM July 9, 2009 10:00 PM  

Rebecca great post, as always...

I'm going to make little laminated cards that on one sides debunk the lies about Sarah and on the other side states what she stands for and believes. I'm going to hand them out to anyone who through ignornace repeats the lies about her or give them to those who know little about her.

Are any of you interested in posting what you think these are?

My list is:

America is a great country
Gov't should be small and concentrate on national security\defense and infrastructure
Low taxes are the real stimulus
Enery Independence
Life is pecious


How does Sarah really say this or what is a better way to say this and more?

Debunking the lies:

Is Trig's mother
Didn't ban books
Didn't charge for rape kits
Is well read
Did stop the bridge to nowhere


What else? I know that you can help me come up with a nice, concise and tight list for both.

upinak July 9, 2009 10:02 PM  

It would be wise not to compare Sarah Palin... to anyone.

There is no one in the world like her.. and even a comparison (like to Tiger Woods) will show how little you know of this woman.

Sit back and watch people. Keep your eyes open.

MarkRNY July 9, 2009 10:05 PM  

CCRWM,

How about Saeah's line?-"The world needs more Trigs, not less".

karenfromny July 9, 2009 10:05 PM  

to MarkRNY

That is what I am saying, her attorney was on with Greta the other night making the connection. And now Meg is making the connection. This is no accident. That is why I am predicting that the Gov. will come out officially and make the connection.

Nancy July 9, 2009 10:05 PM  

couldnotcomeupwithanametroll said:
Entertainment is watching President Obama look so cool while ruining America! Get out the popcorn America!

howIroll July 9, 2009 10:07 PM  

haha, Nancy, notice how Mittens hasn't scheduled any further pizza parlor events. Wonder why not? Nothing better than sitting at a table in a sidewalk pizza place on a warm summer night. Should be a natural.

Patty Hewes July 9, 2009 10:07 PM  

Three musts for the Former Governor going forward.

* Hire a national team of Advisers. Hire PR ops, A speechwriter etc..

* Appearances on the politically Sunday shows, Start a syndicated column when u feel comfortable!

* Speeches book tour blah blah Media blitz 2010.

Let's expand and broaden the Palin brand appeal!

Al B. July 9, 2009 10:07 PM  

upinak --

I agree with you. We ain't seen nothing yet. She's that good.

I saw a post from one of your fellow Alaskans that told FReepers, "she's so good it's unbelievable", or words to that effect.

section9 July 9, 2009 10:07 PM  

Cheney knows where the bodies are buried in D.C.. There are enough people in D.C. pissed off right now to leak to Darth big time. Sarah would have "consulted" with the Godfather prior to stepping down. It simply wouldn't have been proper not to speak with Cheney and Malek prior to stepping down.

Cheney would know any command chain that exists between the WH and Alaska's Democrats. They WH can't hide anything from Darth. The "Don" knows what Obama is going to do before Obama does it. That's how far ahead of the game Cheney is in front of the Obama WH.

It's possible Palin doesn't trust McCain anymore, given the fact that she knows McCain hasn't told his people to STFU, even though she puts on a good face. But this is all speculation.

Lastly, why are people high on Romney: Romney is the candidate of the Establishment. There are battalions of people in D.C. who have their futures staked on a Romney Campaign. They know Mitt is rich as Croesus and can pay them handsomely. They want Mitt to succeed in the primary because they know Mitt will pay top dollar in the fall for everything, even the catering will be first class.

No expense will be spared. Romney will run that kind of campaign. But behind all the position papers from Heritage will be a the same store mannequin who lost to John McCain-with no there there but a boatload of cash.

They don't give a damn. They just want to get a check in the mail from Romney for America every week. They are scared that Sarah is the kind of woman who will run a tightfisted campaign and will will make them stay in Motel 6's, buy bagels for breakfast, and spend all her money on volunteers, media, and polling, instead of on consultants, like Romney would. Sarah will make them be honest on their expense accounts, instead of putting that trip to the vacation condo in the Turks and Caicos on the Opposition Research Account.

The Washington Beltway Republicans KNOW that Obama will annihilate Romney. But they are in it for the money and the free food. They know that Sarah is a more compelling challenger, but they won't make as much money off of her. They are swine.

Book this: Romney couldn't beat Himmler in Miami Beach. He's that phony. But no one cares as long as they get paid. This is what Sarah Palin is up against.

Dan C July 9, 2009 10:10 PM  

I do not like to see people suffer, but can you imagine how the media will look on election night one day if Palin wins? I mean, literally their heads will explode on air and in print lol. They probly will need to have their belts taken from them for their own protection. To be honest, I would enjoy watching their heads explode. I really really would:)

WeLoveAlaska July 9, 2009 10:10 PM  

I like the idea of some kind of celebration for Governor Palin on July 26!

MarkRNY July 9, 2009 10:12 PM  

That's the line to take Karenfromny. They're trying to make the case that she cracked under pressure or that her ambition got the better of her. This was about Alaska, and Alaskans were being hurt because they were gunning for her (NYers think alike).

CCRWM--The above was supposed to read "Sarah's line". I'm typing on a laptop in a hotel room.

CCRWM July 9, 2009 10:14 PM  

I don't know why they have Luntz on he's so ah boring and why is his opinion so great ...why does he have "gravitas" so to speak?

Kirsten Powers cut the other two and Sean off every single time they were making a good point. That is a typical Leftist tactic...annoying...

Nancy July 9, 2009 10:15 PM  

i'maspecktroll said:
Ya know what I find knee slapping, that unemployment rate President Obama's working on! Higher is better! 'Course I voted for Obama so who knows or cares! OBAMA!

Yogi41 July 9, 2009 10:16 PM  

They want Mitt to succeed because it will change nothing. They can still have their power grab and Mitt will not hold anyone accountable, since he is part of the establishment.

Every election cycle, it's the same thing. Dems grab power, then Republicans grab power; the power shifts between the parties but it never leaves D.C. and that's the way they all want it.

Palin will shift the power from the establishment back to the people and this is why they, Dems and Republicans, do not want her to succeed.

Yogi41 July 9, 2009 10:17 PM  

WeLoveAlaska said...

I like the idea of some kind of celebration for Governor Palin on July 26!

______________________________________________-


In celebration, we should have a party on this site with bagels and cupcakes. ;)

heshtesh July 9, 2009 10:18 PM  

I am heading out now. I will be off the grid until Sunday late. I'm going to Put-in-Bay (Ohio) first thing in the morning for a weekend of fun and debauchery with my wife to celebrate our 19th wedding anniversary. Have a great weekend everyone!

Have one for me at Frosty's & the Round House have a great time.

CCRWM July 9, 2009 10:18 PM  

Somehow...I got that Mark...thanks

heshtesh July 9, 2009 10:20 PM  

I was wishing DougB and his wife a good trip to the bay.

Bill in Baltimore July 9, 2009 10:22 PM  

NoMoRino's

I am with you in your sentiment about this country and SP.

I am also with you in your anger, just look at some of my posts in the Open Thread today.

On everything you said, I am with you.

I think the right rising up is going to surprise a lot of people.

But what happens on Jan 21, 2012 when the work begins (notwithstanding any achievements before then)?

Are all government agencies going to switch gears because the Pres has a nice smile ?

I'm just askin'

Shouldn't Sarah be building coalitions, or at least relationships ?

This has been bothering me lately, like you, I care deeply about this country and also about the well-being of Sarah.

Read my posts on Open Thread Thursday at 12:55 (I had a dream) and 1:46 (This is the Olympics, baby, not the Republican Demolition Derby)

MarkRNY July 9, 2009 10:24 PM  

CCRWM-I'm so tired I'm not sure I got it.

Nancy July 9, 2009 10:26 PM  

lowselfesteemtroll said:
The greatest entertainer alive is Keith Olbermann! And yet he is a serious newsman! Oooohhhh, he is everything a lefty should be! My hero!

Nancy July 9, 2009 10:29 PM  

dottroll said:
What I do not get is why people make fun of Joe Biden?! What is up with that? He always sounds perfectly sane to me. What gives?

defendAmerica July 9, 2009 10:29 PM  

I have already planned a party with about 40 of my closest friends for July 26th. My invitation included bagel and cupcakes on the menu! We're gonna watch some Palin's greatest moments and celebrate the return of conservatism to the country!

WeLoveAlaska July 9, 2009 10:30 PM  

If you haven't already; check out the video on Gretawire with Governor Palin's attorney, Thomas Van Flein.

CodaCuda2012 July 9, 2009 10:33 PM  

Meg mentioned Dead Fish's book "Thrumpen" or something like that add in Rouse et. al and "Rules for Radicals" all roads lead to DC.

It is called deductive reasoning or if you prefer connect the dots. Gov. Palin was just waiting for the right time and that was the 3rd. The event was planned all a long.
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Techno---Sorry I went off on you earlier today. Cory.

Firelight July 9, 2009 10:37 PM  

Hey Bil in Baltimore,

I completely understand what you are saying. My hunch, and it is just a hunch, that someone leaked the link between the anklebitters and the WH. I think that Darth as some refer to him and a few others did their research and confirmed. I think Sarah offered to quit and the GOP freaked. I think a legitimate, strategic plan was hatched to help minimize the possible fallout.

This tells me that she has a coalition and connections but that it is in her best interest to be viewed as the outsider that is not welcome.

Just my hunch.

Oh yeah on Hannity's forum one of the posters has a great sig line saying:

Palin 2012
A New Energy for America.


I like it!!! Another one on FR calls her the people's president (Princess Di was the people's princess). That fits too.

For whatever reason I am very optimistic.

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