Monday Open Thread
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WSJ: CIT Group Scrambles to Survive, Avoid a Run
VDH: The War Against the Producers
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AP: GOP unifies against any more stimulus spending
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I sent this email to a journalist:
Please read this article
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-palin-gop13-2009jul13,0,3913909.story
What exactly going in GOP establishment? Why is there so much
fear and loathing of Sarah Palin? Not only these people are taking
open potshots at the governor, they are also feeding gossipmongers
like Parker, Noonan etc. They've been trying to tail and shadow her
since the beginning of this year, they also get paranoid at her moves,
spin molehills into mountains, distort and denigrate her, throw
wrenches in her way (I suspect some of these people got her NRCC
speaking gig canceled and then blamed her) and now this. They are
undermining her at slightest pretext and it's gotten really vicious;
now they are doing it in the open without slightest compunction.
Gossip was that Romney and/or Jeb Bush were behind this but this has
gotten so big and so out of hand, that it can't be just those two.
Is there something nefarious going on or is it just an
outsider-establishment clash? Even if its a populist/establishment
turf war, why are they pouring so much vitriol on Sarah? Why is so
much effort being put into stopping her at all costs, three years
before the primaries? Even if she were a terrible candidate, can she
lose worse than Mccain? Could you please take up the topic and write
something about it?
I posted this on another thread, but it is appropriate for the Open thread.
Energy Independence:
http://edition.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/europe/07/13/turkey.gas.pipeline/index.html
Alaska has got lots of this oil and gas. US should support AGIA, support other options in the US instead of financing Nabucco.
more on energy independence:
http://www.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idUSTRE56C1VN20090713
Turkey wants Iran to join in the US backed gas pipe deal despite US disapproval of Iran.
Remember Turkey didn't allow US use its territory to attack Iraq. Lesson to be learnt there is that until US begins to develop her own energy, US will never enjoy the independence.
wisetrog,
That LA Times piece is being picked apart pretty well over at Free Republic this morning.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2291273/posts
wisetrog.
DC doesn't like outsiders.
For republicans, they like people who schmooze, not serve the people, no ?
But, deep in their hearts, they know she's right.
If she wins despite their continued loathing, they still win, and we lose.
How this will be resolved is yet to be revealed. But it must be, for the good of the country.
My friends,
I will only be on the Open Thread today, only watching except for lunchtime.
But, I did want to alert you that I had a dream last night. It was about conservatism.
Whitney and Toki were in this dream, although it really wasn't a dream. You'll see.
Theme: "The Palin Revolution".
Building on a previous post, Governor Palin began a revolution in Alaskan State Government. In the 16 months from January 2007 to the end of the legislative session in April 2008, she delivered on her promices and accomplished more than most Governors did in eight years. Indeed she did more than Barrack Obama or Hillary Clinton di in their entire careers. The Exon Mobil/transCanada deal complete her task; only implementaion remains. The Leadership is done. Time to move onwards and upwards.
Now her opponents in Alaska will seek to diminish her achievement. There is need for Phase2 of the "Palin Revolution" in Alaska in which a new breed of 'citizen politicians' don Governor Palin's mantle and oust the petty, small-minded mediocrities from the legislature and consolidate her legacy of clean and effective governance.
At the national level there is also a need for a "Palin Revulution" to reverse the US from the cul-de-sac that to some extent Bush, and especially Obama have driven it and restore it to the main highway.
There was an article in the "Washington Post Magazine" a few weeks ago about "Mr. Smith Goes to Washington," and how politicians are always being compared to Mr. Smith. They had everyone in there from Obama to Palin. What people forget is that Mr. Smith in the movie was mocked, hated, vilified, smeared, and tormented by nearly everyone around him, right up until literally the very last minute of the movie. Does that sound like Obama?
What Palin has shown already is an extraordinary ability to focus in on three or four important national issues. I suspect that she intends to beat them like a drum all throughout the next 18 months.
Has she made mistakes since she got back from Alaska? Of course. She probably underestimated the ruthlessness of the Dems. But all that is behind her now.
Sarah will support anti Obama and conservative leaning Democrats. PUMAs. Who would have thought something like that?
What about the possibility that by 2011 Hillary resigns to the SOS post for strong opposition to the Obama failed policies, and she teams up with Sarah to take the bigger threat to this nation since the Communist Block?
If Sarah runs, get the nomination and on her most surprising move yet, picks Hillary as her running mate...
That would be the biggest landslide win in the past 40 years.
CJ, her conservative base will desert her in a wink if she does that. But she'll use a lot of HIllary dems to propel to victory. There are some good guys there like Michael Hanlon.
Question of the day:--
WILL SARAH OR WON'T SARAH (should Sarah or shouldn't Sarah) comment on Sotomayor hearings?
After all, she spoke up on Miss California when no other pol would.
She spoke up on Obama at Notre Dame when no other pol would.
So will she call out Sotomayor when the likes of Sen Lindsay Graham and other Rinos find Sotomayor acceptable?
Laura Ingraham is going to have more about Sally Quinn and Sarah Palin on her show today. She opened the show by saying that many of her listeners emailed her and told her that she was too easy on Quinn when she interviewed her on Bill O'Reilly's show.
Laura and her sidekick are flabbergasted and suggested that her listeners didn't watch the same show, because she thought she was plenty hard on Quinn.
But, she said she's going to discuss it in more depth "later" in her show today.
Yogi41 -- seems Laura Ingrham was concerned (or shoule be) there's a movement afoot to replace her on the radio by Tammy Bruce!
So Laura needs to patch up her Palin creds.
True, Section, what were the GOP governor's focused on at the time of this apochryphal letter, we know Sanford was going the extra step, but it wasn't for fiscal reasons. Jindal was putting in some effort, Pawlenty was doing something. She was being savaged
six ways from Sunday, with the Johnston's taking pot shots at her all the while trying to figure out the stimulus ,defend the state from the slashing of missile defense and other militarycutbacks,
oh and they had also sandbagged her on the NRSC/NRCC dinner.
Great cover story on Sarah in "Weekly Standard":
http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/016/708gpxia.asp?pg=2
Nothing new to us Palinistas but there's one really good Sarah quote in there I had not read anywhere else in the last couple of weeks.
narciso, so true. Now you see how the effect the clique has on her allies. They were so good in spreading the rumors that she was falling apart that Malek was so concerned as to dispatch this guy, Goldberg wrote that awful column etc.
They are putting awful lot of pressure on her allies.
gardunne, which quote?
Governor Palin has often been criticized for her lack of knowledge and experience in foreign policy. I have another take.
At one level, 'knowlege' of foreign policy can be the ability to answer quizes, like knowing the difference between Budapest and Burecrest, or knowing the difference beteen Slovakia and Slovenia (Woodrow Wilson failed that test).
There is another more profound level of understanding, which focuses upon deep "structural" issues of power and dependency. This is precisely the way that leading edge thinkers in strategic leadership would approach the topic.
Now the two great "dependency" threats facing the United States is (1) dependency on foreign oil and other sources of energy and (2) dependence of foriegn credit.
There are others of course, but I know of no other American political leader that has articulated these threats better than Governor Sarah Palin. I do not know where she got it, but she is that rarest of political leaders, a genuine strategic thinker, that is to say, she has the capacity to "see" the structural fundamental of an economy or organizational entity, be it business or political. Details and implementation can be left to managers and technocrats, who are two-a-penny. I find no evidence for this capacity in the shallow and canned mantra-like rhetoric of Barrack Obama or, for that matter, Secretary Clinton.
Emerson C,
re: Theme: "The Palin Revolution".
- you got that right.
re: At the national level there is also a need for a "Palin Revulution"
- you got that right too.
and . . . it's happening.
Hot Air has a hit piece on Palin up from The New York Times. I didn't click to read the entire article, but from the portion that they posted, this stood out:
“You are getting a bad rap,” Mr. Malek recalled saying. “Important people are trying to talk to you. And she said, ‘What number are they calling?’ She did not know what had been happening.”
And this:
"Mr. Malek said she charmed former Vice President Dick Cheney at the dinner and bonded with Mr. Cheney’s daughter Liz over both raising five children…"
Actually to be fair, more than the GOP Rino's will back Sotomayor, the GOP chickens of the MSM (Cronyn et al) likewise will. Since Sarah Palin is NOT ONLY NOT "CHICKEN" of the MSM, but runs against and uses the MSM as her foil, it would seem perfect for Sarah to opine -- saying she's aware the MSM will oppose her for criticizing Sotomayor. (That Sotomayor is a reverse-racist, admittedly unqualified, and completely outside the Constitution on her rulings is beyond question -- so needn't elaborate on that here.)
Wisetrog - the one where she's almost amused by the rumor on the Internet that there were about to be porn photos of her released.
She says "and between which pregnancies was I supposed to have posed for those photos?"
LOL - she hasn't lost her sense of humor.
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obama_administration/daily_presidential_tracking_poll
Pres. Obama is back to -8 on the rating index, although his overall approval is back up to 53%.
Eventually, of course, Palin will be asked about Sotomayor. Any critique of Soto should be based on issues such as abortion, gun rights, state's rights, and hot button issues such as Ricci and takings cases like Kelo.
Going out there like Rush and hitting the reverse-racist button would be a mistake, imho.
She should simply prompt for questions that Judiciary Committee Republicans should ask, while admitting that it is likely that Soto will be confirmed. But not without a fight. Remind people about Miguel Estrada.
To clarify re Palin commenting NOW on Sotomayor, nobody says SotoM won't be confirmed, but Sarah CAN use this moment to criticize "identity politics" and PCism which is what Sotomayor is all about. -- especially since no other GOPer will.
Go sarah! Do it!
yogi, that article has been well dissected in the Sven Jensen thread below. Let me know what you think.
Section9 , white guilt is reverse racism = self hate. Hating whitey by non whites is racism straight up.
section 9, yes, use your suggestions as focus points for Sarah's comments on Soto
Obama is going to be at the All-Star game this week throwing out the first pitch and in the booth. I feel like barfing. Guess I'm watching Fox News tomorrow instead.
I know St.Louis fans are famous for not booing their own team nor the opponents. But boy do I want to see Obama get his coming.
Since Sarah's gonna be asked about Soto at some point anyway, I say, Sarah, do it now, when it counts!!!
(get ahead of the curve)
Carmelo
What a NICE dream!
The women haters on both sides would NEVER let that happen!
McCain finally defends Palin
Glenn beck is now following sarah on his twitter.
He just got back from fishing in idaho and is on tv tonight.
Jenny,
As a St. Louis Cardinals' fan, I would say you are right in your assessment. I, too, am interested in seeing how people react! Missouri went to McCain, but most of St. Louis likely voted for Obama. Although many people will likely come from out of town, it will be interesting to see!
While I'm on the subject of the Cardinals, it is interesting that Cardinals' star Albert Pujols has also has a daughter with Down Syndrome, whom he adopted from his wife's previous marriage, and has a foundation in part focusing on Down Syndrome (www.pujolsfamilyfoundation.org). This would be an awesome non-partisan foundation for Gov. Sarah to get involved in or speak for a some point!
No offense to Laura Ingraham, but she can be a little dense sometimes...
Maybe she should move out of Washington D.C.
Yes, she needs to comment on Sotomayor, but maybe she'll do that after she's out of office. She already implied she does not approve of Sotomayor in one of her tweets where she said she's selecting a judge to interpret the law instead of making the law or something. That was an indirect slam against her.
Yogi,
I don't understand Hot Air, what is the deal with them overall ?
Michelle Malkin says this is her "other site", in her About page.
So what gives ?
Bill,
While the editors may not be so pro-Palin, most of the readers are and that's good enough for me.
I don't know where Malkin stands with Palin; she's defended her at times, so I wouldn't be so quick to say she's anti-Palin.
And the goal of any site is traffic and hits, and any Palin thread gives them that. Perhaps they knowingly post anti-Palin threads to tweak their readers and drive up traffic.
I think Malkin is pro-Palin. She's always fiercely defending her, even on national tv.
barbarians,
I'm still looking for a compelling argument comparing the
- perils of the Colonies in light of King George
vs
- the perils of the USA today.
Nothing fancy, just like a one-pager or something that you could share with your neighbor.
Ted rightly said, "The enemy is within".
I'm looking to supplement that with a nice compelling argument on the sacrifice and nobility of the founding fathers and why they did it. I know it in my heart but there's too many cobwebs in that part of my brain to articulate with historical accuracy.
I won't need that much about the perils of today. Everyone in their right mind knows it.
But a few cogent facts on today's perils (inside and outside) would help as well.
Ok, so maybe it will be a 4 pager: 2 for the Rev War and 2 for now.
Thanks.
Looks like Sarah could hit over 100,000 follers on her Twitter today.
Sorry if I'm posting articles that you've already dissected, but I just went straight to the Open Thread this morning... here's another one, and if already posted, feel free to ignore it. :)
Again, over at HA, it's the LA Times article, where named GOP strategists are dumping all over Palin. At least they have the balls to go on the record... but man, some of the stuff they say is brutal.
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-palin-gop13-2009jul13,0,3913909.story?track=rss
Like this:
“I can’t tell you one thing she brought to the ticket,” said Stuart K. Spencer, who has been advising GOP candidates for more than 40 years. “McCain wanted to shock and surprise people, and he did — in a bad way.”
And this guy compares her to Miami Vice - outdated:
“I am of the strong opinion that, at present day, she is not ready to be the leading voice of the GOP,” said Todd Harris, a party strategist who likened Palin to the hopelessly dated “Miami Vice” — something once cool that people regard years later with puzzlement and laughter. “It’s not even that she hasn’t paid her dues. I personally don’t think she’s ready to be commander in chief.”
Boy, are they going to have egg on their face when they see with their own eyes that they're the ones who are "outdated" and "out of touch" - they really don't understand us, do they?
Yogi,
thanks, makes sense about what you say on Hot Air.
Real bloggers know the truth.
OMG, nice analysis, Yogi, on the LA Times piece. Dinosaurs.
Bill,
I don't have great knowledge of revolutionary war history, but I re-read the Declaration of Independence over the 4th of July weekend. The Founding Fathers list their "grievances" against the king in this document, some of these parallel the overgrowth and overstepping of our current government.
By the way, I haven't forgotten your request for an overview of conservatism. I've begun to formulate some ideas on how to present this and will likely write a post on my blog about it in the next week or so--the title," Cliff Notes of Conservatism".
barbaraians,
I need some context here. I can pretty much figure it out, but wanted someone more attuned to politics and media to weigh in.
I just had an e-mail exchange with person who's basically retired, but was VERY active in politics in DC during the Reagan years, and was a Reagan supporter.
Regarding this piece by Matthew Continetti on The Weekly Standard, "Out of Alaska", my friend called it a "puff piece".
http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/016/708gpxia.asp
I read the article and I call it "the truth".
The article is a fair assessment of her situation and recaps most of what is simply reported on C4P.
So, again, what gives with this former "insider" ?
Long or short answers, let me know.
This is very important as I have a dialogue going with this person, and he still lives in DC, and still active from what I can tell.
I’ve got to rant a little after reading the LA Times piece.
If Mike Murphy, Todd Harris and Stuart Spencer are now indicative of the GOP sentiment toward Sarah Palin – then all I can say is I no longer want any part of the GOP…. ever. I do not want to be associated with a political party that goes out of its way to smear and destroy a good and decent public servant.
In the article it says it is remarkable the “contempt” Sarah Palin has “engendered” in the GOP. No – what is remarkable is the contempt that I now personally have for the GOP that it engendered by its needless and reckless attacks against one of its very own.
The GOP pundits and consultants almost speak of her as if she committed some kind of a crime. And just what was her crime? Is her crime that she was asked by John McCain to be his running mate and she accepted? Or is the crime her large popularity with tens of thousands of ordinary hard working patriotic Americans?
Murphy argues that she will never attract independents and Democrats. Well damn it if the GOP pundits and consultants keep saying that over and over again then my guess is she never will. It becomes something of a self-fulfilling prophecy and it is clear that is their aim.
Sarah Palin as mayor, governor and as a VP candidate always conducted herself with honor and integrity and she has always obeyed Reagan’s 11th commandment. Why can’t these damn GOP pundits and consultants do likewise? It is they who are splitting the GOP, not Sarah Palin.
What to do? As of the moment I do not know. But I do know this, it is becoming increasingly clear that Sarah Palin no longer has a home in the GOP, and nor do I - nor do the tens of thousands of other Americans who faithfully support Sarah Palin. The only remedy I know is that I will personally lobby my family, my friends and my associates against the GOP and rally them all to support Sarah Palin with their words, and their writings and with their wallets.
These GOP pundits and their consultants haven’t in any way softened my support for Sarah Palin – they have only stiffened it.
There, got that off my chest.
The A to Z to Political Success for Sarah Palin:
WHEREWITHAL
NECESSARY MEANS, MONEY, CAPITAL, SAVINGS RESOURCES, EQUIPMENT, TOOLS, REQUIRED FOR A PURPOSE
The 10 aspects of WHEREWITHAL:
1)I have referred to this before but again Sarah Palin must boast the requisite WHEREWITHAL, including the necessary attributes, temperament, intelligence, political ACUMEN, and drawing power to run the Presidential marathon. Only a few make the final cut.
2)Getting her DUCKS IN A ROW together with developing and putting in place the WHEREWITHAL of a campaign organization does not happen immediately. This is fundamental to any progress that Sarah has as she embarks on the road ahead and any success she has in the primaries or the general election
3)Spending time in the wilderness will allow Sarah to reflect, research and read more to provide herself more ammunition and the WHEREWITHAL to develop appropriate conservative policies to advance and the ability to be the most effective and strategic in attacking Obama's agenda on a daily basis
4)Sarah should explain why the WHEREWITHAL of boldness, liberty, savings and capital must be present in the capitalist system for entrepreneurs, innovators, and financiers to thrive and to allow for the free flow of ideas, seed money, investment and risk
5)Sarah must develop a fundraising network that maximizes her WHEREWITHAL to fund conservative candidates during the 2010 midterms to become a kingmaker and elevates her credentials and standing in the political community
6)WHEREWITHAL prevades all kinds of modern communication systems that Sarah can bring to bear to advance her cause: the Internet, e-mail, blackberries, Twitter, Facebook, cell phones, blogosphere, right-wing talk radio, her own video crews etc
7)Along with #4 Sarah should explain that the WHEREWITHAL of a regime of low taxes and less regulation is extremely important in setting the atmosphere for or fostering the encouragement of private initiative and enterprise
8)The WHEREWITHAL that Sarah Palin brings to the table allows Sarah to PERFORM remarkably on the campaign trail, attracting SRO crowds, to galvanize her support and bring newcomers into her tent
9)The solid support of the grassroots of the GOP or the base for Sarah's presence in the lower 48 provides Sarah with WHEREWITHAL to develop approaches, policies, or political strategies to tap into independents, moderates, libertarians, and Reagan Democrats to broaden her support
10)Sarah's inner strength, her abiding eloquent optimism, her refusal to buckle or yield under great pressure, and her defiance of Obama's radical socialist agenda, will contribute to the growing appreciation of her leadership abilities and provide the WHEREWITHAL to gain Sarah a huge following and to eventually give her the ability to LEGITIMIZE her qualifications to become POTUS
levi is such a goon lol
Jimr3,
I agree with all you said other than one thing. I believe you should say "tens of millions" rather than "tens of thousands" of ordinary hard-working Americans. I can't remember the number but I believe close to 55-60 million voted for her ticket in November, mostly because of her.
This is what are country is coming to...funny, but probably real.
http://aclu.org/pizza/images/screen.swf
Doug B.,
Yes I did mean to say millions not thousands. Thank you.
jimr3,
I'm with you about your rant.
the GOP deadwood is rising up and showing they are rotted.
I am e-mailing a retired fellow who was active in politics during the Reagan years, and he called a completely truthful article on her "a puff piece"
http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/016/708gpxia.asp
I called it "completely truthful"
WHAT IS IT WITH THESE OLD FUDDY-DUDDIES ?
Why can't then see what we see ? They all must love what Peggy Noon writes.
Sheesh.
Who the hell are Todd Harris and Stuart Spencer? Never heard of either of them. Mike Murphy is part of the problem with the GOP establishment. He is more concerned with being well-liked by the libs n DC than making a positive difference. I could be wrong about this, but Murphy seems like the Bob Shrum of the GOP. Has he ever run a successful campaign?
I'd suggest that you go through Siv Jensen thread below.
barbarians,
who in the Republican Party, if they broke ranks and subtly or outwardly started seeing the starpower of Sarah Palin and talking her up, would do the most good for the cause of TAKING BACK THIS COUNTRY.
I have no idea, and I am sure there's going to be lots of choices, but if I had to decide right now and I had only one phone call I was allowed to make, I would call Newt Gingrich.
What do you think ?
wisetrog (8:02 AM)
What you may miss and which I referred to a few days ago is there is one consideration that goes beyond party ideology or personal belief and that is self-preservation or personal survival.
What we see in the campaign by the GOP establishment (although perhaps muted lately per the Politico article re: the Beltway GOP)is a visceral fear and terror that Sarah cannot be bought off and that if elected POTUS she will change the rules of the game and not allow those currently with clout or power or their associates to enjoy it any more or at least see it diminished.
Remember what Jesus said (and I am not comparing Sarah to Jesus): "Do you think I came to bring peace on earth? No, I tell you, but division." (Luke 12:51)
It is what it is.
jimr3,
As you may know, I have been keeping a list of these so-called GOP insiders who have been trashing her. IN my opinion, they are either working for Romney or hope to work for him. The purpose of this list it to present it to Governor Palin or at least publicize it so that if she runs, she will not hire these a**-holes.
As ot stand now, my list looks like this. I just added Todd Harris and Stuart Spencer to it, having never heard of them before.
John Feehery
Rob Gray
Mike Murphy
Matt Braynard
Kevin Madden
Nicole Wallace
Michelle Laxalt
Mathew Dowd
Carl Forti
Jennifer Millerwise Dyck
Steve Schmidt
Karen Hanretty
Todd Harris
Stuart Spencer
I continue to think it would be useful if C4P had a link on the main page which would take readers to this list. Each name could then have a sub-menu you could click on to see specific instances where they trashed her, complete with written as well as video quotes. If she wins the nomination, these d*psh*ts would then have a tough time finding work since us barbarians will not let anyone forget what they did. That's a good thing.
Rapprochement? Is it still possible?
If the attacks on Sarah by the GOP Politburo abate this week, then maybe, just maybe then, some people are working behind the scene to patch things up.
It is obvious the damage to the party would be incalculable and even fatal if the rupture between the two camps is complete.
Sarah holds the upper hand. The party has to come to her because without her grassroots support the GOP would be crushed in 2012. It was her supporters that saved the party in the 2008 elections from a humiliating rout.
So we'll see.
The next interview of Sarah would give us the clue of whether she is done with the GOP or not.
Would she escalate the conflict by ratcheting up the statement "my son is not a Republican" with more unflattering words?
I just hope things quiet down a bit until July 26.
Should that be the case, then it will look hopeful. Because after that date, the window of opportunity is closed for effective attacks by the Politburo. Sarah, by then, would fully be engaging the grassroots in real and relevant conversations.
I truly for the rapprochement. Because without Sarah to vote for in 2012, I'll be again going back, dutifully, voting for the LESSER of two evils.
And there's NO joy in that.
VIVA SARAH!
Where is the list of these GOP backstabbers, and the links to their put down articles?
Couldn't it be placed in one of the side bars on the C4P web site?
I dont have the time to remember their names or what they wrote so I hope some of you are doing the dreary homework of maintaining it.
It upset me to click Drudge and get linked articles stating that the GOP pundits were declaring war on Sarah Palin and firing the first shots.
One of the few things I liked about McCain during the campaings is when he said about pork requesting politicians: "And you will know their names!"
Let's take names! We will know their names!
Sorry about my typing. I hate this damn laptop keyboard!
I don't like this tweet from Fred Malek on June 28, 2009.
@mikemurphy is one of the best strategists in the gop. need to get him back in the game for 2012. #mtp #tcot #gop7:03 AM Jun 28th from web
techno, wisetrog,
what the GOP deadwood is missing is this: their personal survival is a major factor in the soon-to-written obituary of the United States of America.
A bit bombastic ? Perhaps.
but perhaps not.
Maybe Malek is trying to Murphy back into the fold before he completely goes off the deep end. I don't know why because Mike Murphy is an idiot and has a long history of failure. The GOP is best of without him or his kind.
Rasmussen daily tracking poll:
-8 (28-36)
this is the 6th straight day Obama's net approval index has been at -5 or below and 11th straight report in the negative
+7 (53-46)
Obama has gained 4 points in the last two days in his overall approval level; however the 53-46 represents the vote totals for Obama and McCain respectively in Nov. 2008
jimr3,
nice list, great idea. GOP deadwood all over the place.
So Romney is hell-bent on becoming President ?
This is called the REPUBLICAN PARTY DEMOLITION DERBY.
It's time for something UNCONVENTIONAL to happen.
that is, for these men and women to serve the people of this nation as a higher calling and to sacrifice themselves for this country.
The GOP has, within its grasp, the mechanism to advance their agenda and reforms in an amazing way.
But essentially, personal pride (or survival as techno notes) is the primary reason that allows our country to be in the position it is in - which is in deep sh**.
think perhaps their mortgages are pretty high and a chance they have been living a bit out of their means. hmmmmm.
A good many people want Sarah Palin off the scene. The Democrats because, well, they don't want to lose the next election. Barack Obama clearly saw her as the competition. Remember when she, reacting to the clothes issue, wore her jeans to a rally? Obama wore his jeans the next day. Clearly he's focused on her.
Then, there are the Republicans who have ambitions and the ones who support them. They, obviously, want to take out the competition.
Then, of course, there are the Washington insiders who think she's Tina Fey and are want to show how smart they are with their disdain.
So there's a lot of negative forces. But Governor Palin has too many strong supporters to be simply pushed off the stage. They may not embrace her, but they cannot silence her.
So, starting with the kickoff at the Reagan Library in the room with Air Force One, Sarah Palin will begin the next phase of speaking and campaigning. I think that people will come to see a much richer, less characatured, leader.
She will pay a price for leaving office early, but in return she'll get the next 15 months to become the leader of the Republican Party in a critical midterm battle. And no matter what other goals they have, politicians want votes and money.
While many say she needs to study, I believe her bigger challenge is to teach, to show people who she is and to espouse her values. Yes, she'll have to get more experience dealing with the national press but that comes with practice. She'll get her chance, she doesn't have any trouble getting media attention, so she won't be ignored.
As she becomes more active, the opposition will become more fearful. Expect the battle to continue.
Laura Ingrham pretends to support Palin but beware, she's very clever, and appears to be supporting Mittens.
An example, on the radio she just repeated the story line from the weekend that Palin will support Conservative Democrats, and Laura then questioning, is that the right approach for the GOP?; and Laura hasn't emphasized the obvious reasons for Palin leaving the Governorship.
That "Conservative Democrat" line misses the point; we know Palin's gonna support 99%+ GOP, but Palin's trying to emphasize that the GOP needs to stay on the right!
Laura is a charming radio host, and intelligent, but while Laura has to show positive support for Palin, she does it in a way to undercut Palin -- like Laura talking on and on about all the abuse Palin is taking, and she, Laura, can understand Palin's plight.
(I'd assure Laura, that, Palin CAN take, in fact, bring it on; rather it's a matter of Palin endeavoring to GET HER SELF OUT IN FRONT MORE!!)
As I am reading Levin's "Liberty and Tyranny," and as I read his discussion of the differences between those who value individual liberty (conservatives), and those who believe in the central importance of government (statists), the importance of the Palin movement becomes all the more clear.
Palin, like Reagan, represents true conservatism. True belief in the federalist system and the constitution. True believer in the god given right of individual liberty.
"Liberals", and the Democratic Party, truly represent statists. President Obama is indeed the ultimate of statists, believing he and the government know more than the people, and therefore continue to in effect derail the principles of the constitution itself by granting more and more powers to the federal government.
One can argue that the current Republican Party, as evidenced by those pundits who are most recently openly criticizing Palin, are in fact a part of the problem, a part of what Levin describes as "soft tyranny", that is allowing for the slow, steady destruction of the Founding Fathers' constitutional principles.
I believe Palin's movement should seek to bring the Republican Party back to a true conservative, federalist, "individual liberty" core. Indeed, it sounds increasingly like the Republican pundits, those who are willing to give up on our principles in favor of a "soft tyranny", would prefer Palin supporters to move in a different direction. It will be interesting to see who wins in this all important struggle.
Laura Ingraham is totally in the tank for Romney. I have never understood this since one of Ingraham's big issues is abortion and Romney is, to say the least, a flip flopper on that issue. Ingraham's infatuation with Romney is as inexplciable as is K-Lo's for the same reason.
RE: Rapprochement
I think that some rapprochement is possible with some GOP insiders.
Right now, the key divide in the GOP is on the question of the Party's future strategic direction: "moderate and reach out" or "refocus on conservative first principles, communicate authentically, and hope to attract new adherents and reinspire old ones."
There's probably no rapprochement with the "moderate and reachout" crowd. Their opposition to Palin is less about her individual characteristics than about the coalition she is thought to symbolize.
There are insiders who want essentially a return to authentic Reagan-style conservatism who have been alienated from Gov. Palin for a variety of reasons. There is an opportunity with these folks.
"I can't tell you one thing she brought to the ticket." -Stuart K. Spencer
I can't tell you one thing either, because it's about 56 million things that she brought to the ticket! If you want to be precise the one thing she brought to the ticket, was VOTES! For the love of pete!
Stuart, you had your independent and Democratic voter "supposed" draw with Senator McCain, and where did that get you?
Stuart, oh, there is another thing I can tell you she brought to the ticket, TRUST from the conservative base of YOUR PARTY! If it wasn't for Governor Palin, you had people saying they were going to hold their noses and/or getting drunk to pull the lever for McCain. That is funny, but not a good advertising ploy to get people to think you are going to actually fight for the things your base believes in! "Drink a 6 pack, before you pull that lever, you won't regret it tomorrow!" or "I got drunk, and I think I voted for McCain!"
Stuart, I hope this is okay, because I know I'm just a hick, conservative, Bible thumpin', ignoramous voter. But, I can tell you one other thing she brought to the ticket. How about LIFE/ENTHUSIAM to a listless campaign! How many people were showing up at McCain campaign stops? I can beat any number you put up, with the 3 letters that characterized Governor Palin's campaign stops: SRO. I know I am one of the millions of people all over the country who went out door to door, for the first time for a candidate. That candidate was Governor Palin! I went to 2 of HER campaign rallies, one I had to drive 45 minutes and stand in the morning cold, and rainy drizzle. I was one of the lucky ones that got in! I wouldn't go down the street, inside a warm venue to hear any other candidate, especially not Senator McCain.
Stuart, look at me Stuart, I thought of another one. Another one thing she brought to the ticket was MONEY! Which, I'm sure you will be looking for her to do for you in the years to come. I think, when she was announced, 10 million dollars flooded into the RNC or your campaign, in the space of 2 days. I bet you still took that money, even though it was brought in because of that stupid, hillbilly from Wasilla.
So, I guess, there are 3 things that she brought to the ticket that contributed to the 1 thing a candidate is looking for.
She brought trust, life/enthusiasm, and money that LED to more votes! Unless, of course, you weren't looking for votes, but cared more about how you look to your beltway elite friends. Then you not being able to tell us one thing she brought to the ticket, makes perfect sense.
Again, I have never been mistaken for a Twitterer!:)
veritas,
if Mike Murphy is one of the best strategists in the Republican Party, then he needs to be on Sarah's side.
The question is, is he a strategists for conservative values or for winning the horse race known as a primary election, aka as the REPUBLICAN DEMOLITION DERBY.
So veritas and others, this is the thing. What team are all these guys on ? Are they mercenaries to the highest bidder ? Or do they hitch their reins to the one they think has the best chance of winning, in hopes of sticking around with a cushy job ?
I think I just answered my own question.
So, basically, either they are with Sarah or they are against her. She's already said she's willing to walk the plank.
I just hope at the end of the plank, it attaches itself to an aircraft carrier, and the men and women of the carrier lift her up and welcome her with cheers and tears, the first woman POTUS.
So just as she rooted out corruption in the Republican Party in Alaska, she is going to expose the Corrupt Bastards Club of the GOP in the lower 48.
Anyone with half a brain would hitch their wagons to her.
P.S. Let me throw out another theme: the influence of Sarah Palin on this world will be much greater than becoming POTUS. Even though she probably will become POTUS.
I wonder if the Regan Library people could be convinced to allow a picture of Sarah climbing the steps as if boarding his Airforce One that is on display. Be one hellva pic.
Ok, here's the thing.
This whole GOP deadwood thing, or Romney express with Laura waving out the window.
It's really no different than someone laying down all their possessions at the foot of the cross.
It's scary to give up everything for something you don't really know anything about.
They are clinging to what they know keeps them living, as techno described.
But just one, I'm telling you, just one key person to say, "If I die, I die", and others will do the same.
For when one person does it, their friends will follow.
And if it's a leader that does it, then the followers will follow.
Yes ?
nancy,
good stuff. really good stuff.
If Mike Murphy, Stuart Spencer et al call themselves "political consultants", that's now ridiculous, unless that is, they are really working for Romney's nomination, in which case, I can understand why they come out with this ridiculous stuff -- but boy, is it transparent!
Here's Johnny! (Rush).
He better come out swinging. I bet he toys with everyone for an hour.
I had a dream last night . . . and it was REALLY, REALLY GOOD.
Whitney and Toki, be sure to read this dream.
My dream was so vivid, I typed it up in a .pdf document, here it is:
Conservatism, simply defined
http://www.info-scroll.com/documents/conservatism_defined.pdf
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In case you missed it this weekend, please read my barbarian manifesto, trolls and barbarians alike.
http://www.info-scroll.com/documents/my_barbarian_manifesto.pdf
The manifesto was authored solely by me and is authorized only by me.
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previous dreams
Republican Dream Team (grab a tissue)
http://www.info-scroll.com/documents/republican_dream_team.pdf
Sarah asks BHO a question about Global Warming
http://www.info-scroll.com/documents/sarah_asks_bho_questions.pdf
Sarah meets Peggy Noonan in Wasilla
http://www.info-scroll.com/documents/sarah_meets_peggy_noon.pdf
I don't see any evidence that Laura Ingraham is a Romney supporter at this juncture. What I do see, though, is somone who is woefully uninformed about Palin and what has been going on in Alaska. Ingraham only seems to be following Palin sporadically which causes her to be uninformed on alot of what has been happening--hence her lackluster defense of Palin at times. How can you defend someone when you know so little about them? Just to give you an example--when Palin spoke at the Evansville event and quoted Ingraham she played the clip and said it took place in Alaska. Her on-air sidekick had to correct her. I like Laura Ingraham alot but she can be somewhat judgemental when she is discussing something or someone she doesn't know much about.
Well, my medical mystery has finally been solved. It's all good, still retain all of my body parts, and am under the influence of some weapons grade muscle relaxers. Trying to thumb type on a BlackBerry right now is pretty funny. Keyboard appears to be the size of a postage stamp.
Anyway, thanks again for all the kind words and prayers. It helped and is much appreciated.
But a nice byproduct of all of this was that I managed to sway a couple of medical personnel to Gov. Palin's side, even donated a copy of Media Malpractice to be passed around, so another example of all things working for good.
Now, if I can just figure out my calculator so I can work...
Tiny , but isn't weak or strange of her as a professional not to study on the facts, it's her daytime job!
I think it's an agenda , small errors not , but when their missing the central point in why palin does stuff.
I know a dozen women (including me) who campaigned this fall for the first time. BECAUSE of and FOR Sarah Palin. She brought at least more volunteers to the election. The RNC are such self-serving dolts.
TinyDancer,
a year or two ago, Glenn Beck called out Dr. Dobson for something, and Beck was dead wrong.
Dr. Dobson was ticked, in his controlled way of course, and he called up Glenn to set the record straight. Glenn was gracious, apologized, and Dr. D was of course gracious as well.
Look for Laura Ingrahm to have a guest named Sarah on her program sometime before Labor Day.
Then Laura will understand, and like Beck, she will change her tune.
:-)
Referring to my previous post about the GOP establishment being the 'survival mode' in vehemently opposing Sarah Palin and wanting to see her potential candidacy destroyed I want to elaborate on the various aspects of this desire for self-preservation:
1)Rush Limbaugh often cites the vigorous opposition to conservative pro-life Republicans by moderate male Republicans or RINO's is the constant nagging by their pro-choice WIVES to oppose them in the name of preserving their place in their family or social network and that Sarah Palin is an anathema to her and her friends and that it would be embarrassing if her husband had to come out to support Sarah even if it were pro forma
2)along with #1 as Rush suggests these folks who regularly attend the Beltway-NYC cocktail parties don't want to be teased about their association with NASCAR fans or yahoos from flyover country and especially the 'extremist hick from Wasilla'.
3)The GOP RINO members of Congress fear Sarah because of her committment to personally and financially support conservatives, which could mean primary challengers to them in their bid for re-election
4)GOP politicians all have aides, advisors and cronies. These folks livelihood would be in jeopardy as well if their boss lost in a priamry challenge or lost their prestige in the GOP
5)any potential GOP participant in the Presidential sweepstakes (Romney, Huckabee) may feel that they cannot allow Sarah to gain any traction in the lower 48 or she may become unstoppable; survival may be too strong a word for Romney-he is rich and Huckabee has his Fox show but survival in terms of political credibility is definitely in play
6)Survival also applies to the RINO's influence in the GOP. The fear is that Sarah will sweep through the GOP like a tornado destroying all the vestiges of the RINO's ideals of bipartisanship and being squishy in her path and convert the GOP into primarily a conservative party and thus marginalizing the Rockefeller blueblood elitists from the party
7)Moderate State governors and GOP state legislators also fear Sarah Palin as her conservative influence on the nation may filter down to the various states and cause the GOP grassroots demand their candidates for governor and the legislature have more of a conservative bent
8)Those GOP types who strongly favor single-issues (global warming, larger government)fear that their views will not be heard any longer in the GOP because of Sarah Palin and they do not want to be a part of a party that the MSM portrays as backward or anti-science.
9)Looking at survival from a different slant RINO's don't want the social conservatives in the GOP to thrive anymore and want their influence in the GOP diminished. With Sarah Palin there influence will be enhanced rather than be reduced.
10)And with Sarah Palin thriving right-wing talk show hosts will thrive; secretly the RINO and GOP establishment wish that Rush Limbaugh would not survive and just go away. Sarah's success will be an affirmation of the righteousness of Rush and other right-wing talk show hosts in opposing Obama
Bill,
I read your "dream". It definitely was a dream because I hate horseback riding!! Haha! But, in all seriousness, I hope to in some small way, articulate conservatism to my peers and others-- the liberals and those who are seeking to find the political ideology that best resonates with them.
techno,
how did you get to be so smart.
you have nailed it re: survival.
Now, tell me, what does a conquering Army do to the vanquished.
build them up !
did you read my dream on conservatism (12:08pm)?
Basically, everyone believes in conservatism (except for the elite, the statists, etc.)
So this is the key thing.
Resistance is both philosophical and personal survival.
Any of us can understand personal survival.
So, if it's a battle between Sarah and the Beltway, if they resist to the end, this country is still not going to be much better off.
But if, by the grace of God, someone devises a plan to show these (when you get right down to it) regular people what is on the other side, and they say, "Ok, I'm with you", then we will be ok.
Sarah already has the hearts and minds of the heartland and plenty of people in the DC / NYC / Boston corridor as well (and Hollywood).
Her greatest hour ? Bringing these people along with her, as they lay down their arms and join up.
One, that's all I'm saying, just one leader to say "if I die, I die".
Who will it be ?
it's like anything, simple, really.
those who view her as a threat, resist.
those who view her as being on their side, love her to death.
Whitney,
thanks !
obviously a metaphor, but nonetheless a parallel to what you are doing.
I'm anxious to hear how it turns out for real.
I am resolving to never visit Hot Air again. I like the commenters, but I just can't give allah the traffic. The site is committed to pushing every anti-Palin story out there. Just look at their headlines today. Funny that ed and allah can sniff out media bias on most other subjects, but they take the word of CBS, the NYT and the LA Times as gospel when it comes to Palin.
Yes, the commenters do a good job pushing back, but that doesn't matter much when the starting point is almost always a negative MSM talking point.
Oh, and I guess this point of view makes me a cultist.
Two hit jobs by the New York Times OP-ed:
1. Rich--http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/12/opinion/12rich.html
2. Dowd--http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/12/opinion/12dowd.html
Nothing new there.
Typical whining by the usual crowd.
Although, the Rich piece plays the "race" card, at least imo.
To imply that decent hard working Amercians who disagree with the direction of the country via Obama are "dumb" "backwards" "racists" is a dangerous and, I might add a disconcerting analysis.
Nice way to add to the discourse, Mr. Rich.
I sense Mr. Rich has as alot of "white guilt" embedded in his political beliefs.
Bill,
Right! I know it was a metaphor!:)I was just joking!
I can't wait to see what the next few years have in store for the movement Gov. Sarah is beginning and that us, ordinary barbarians, will be involved in, in our communities and utilizing the technologies of Web 2.0!! It will a grassroots, nay-tundraroots ( an Alaskan twist), movement like none other!
bill in baltimore:
When you listen to Rush Limbaugh everyday some of his political wisdom eventually begins to rub off.
veritas,
I can't understand why Michelle Malkin allows this crap on Hot Air.
Last fall I learned about blogging from the e-mail debacle on Sarah (Yahoo account) at MM's site.
Then I was on MM as my primary site ever since, some Drudge, some Rush, some Newsbusters.
But now, it's like 99% C4P.
but my point, I would often go to Hot Air and it was always like opening the door to a bar and you say, "I just remembered something I have to do"
techno,
yes, I too wish I could listen to Rush every day, it is an education.
His web site stinks though, it's too hard to read the articles.
Well, it looks like Allahpundit is back from Vacation.
3 negative Palin posts this morning including this gem of a poll:
CBS:65% think Palin would not be an effective President.
If you have a Hotir account, we need Barbarians there. These GOP Romneybots WILL NOT be allowed to kneecap Sarah.
thank goodness !
I just checked C4P site and there are no new posts !
This is a tiring but ultimately uplifting business we are in.
You watch, though. There will be like, 6 articles posted before the day's out. Yikes !
bill in baltimore:
If there is an 11th component to survival which I should have included is paranoia. I suppose I was gravitating to the rational but if you venture into the world of the irrational I think you can imagine anything goes in reference to generating reasons why Sarah Palin has to be destroyed.
techno,
good point ^
Bill in Baltimore said...
"P.S. Let me throw out another theme: the influence of Sarah Palin on this world will be much greater than becoming POTUS. Even though she probably will become POTUS."
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I think you hit the nail on the head, Bill.
I know the headlines are strongly anti Sarah, but the Green Room section with Doctor Zero, and Jim Treacher, & CK McLeod have been good, this latest follows up the vivisection of Peggy's attempted hit on Sarah;
http://hotair.com/greenroom/archives/2009/07/13/sarahnoia-strikes-deep-or-a-seemingly-very-nice-middle-class-president-palinism-3/
Yeah, AP is definitely back from vacation. Ed managed to avoid the anti-Palin posts last week, but AP can't resist.
Yup, a poll conducted by CBS news for one POSSIBLE candidate, 3 years before the next POTUS election, and it is only of "adult" voters probably skewed DEM. Yeah, I'll assume that is real credible. Remember like Rush says, polls are used to sway and affect public opinion...
I have been fighting but where are the other barbarians?
narciso:
What you have just reported is a microcosm that represents the true nature of the dichotomy between the establishment (Hot Air, Ed Morrissey and Allahpundit) and those in the Green Room who represent the grassroots.
Congratulations for bringing that fact to our attention.
“I can’t tell you one thing she brought to the ticket,” said Stuart K. Spencer
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How about crowds, attention and money, for starters?
Why did McCain do all those joint appearances with Palin?
Techno,
That's pretty much dead on the way I see it.
We're in a period very similar to 76/77. Ford won the nomination, but the Conservative Movement made gains by leaps and bounds. It found a figure (Reagan) to rally around and said "Never Again".
Although Reagan lost the primary and, of course, the pundits wrote him off, the base was on fire and he was it's unchallenged leader. The similarities are almost spooky.
If anyone hasn't read 'Reagan's Revolution' by Craig Shirley--about Reagan's LOSING 76 Primary run, they ought to--especially when things seem hopeless.
Btw, who runs Hot Air?? I can't see Malkin wanting this non-stop anti-Sarah crap.
Sarah Palin is so unconventional and she is still WINNING. Her popularity grows even with unusual and weird moves and decisions.
America loves this woman too much. She is so like us. She has the same problems of the middle class. She talks like us. She fishes, hunts, dress in Walmart clothes and do the normal things.
I think, Sarah can surprise the world with more unusual moves and she will still be at the top.
Note: Colin Powell seems to start seeing the light and seeing that this Obama is just an empty suit and dangerous. It wouldn't surprise me if he officially announces he is DISAPPOINTED with Obama.
I think two individuals would start making the coffin for the Obama administration in 2011: Colin Powell and Hillary Clinton.
As the famous man from la Mancha would say:
"Cosas veredes, Sancho"(You shall see things, Sancho)
I CAN'T YOU ONE THING THAT SHE (SARAH PALIN) BROUGHT TO THE TICKET
STUART K SPENCER
Even John McCain admitted candidly that he should have selected Sarah Palin a month earlier because of the fantastic fundraising dollars that came into the McCain coffers within 72 hours of the Palin announcement.
Even the most biased political observer has to admit that. Apparently Mr. Spencer nuance isn't your forte and neither is accuracy.
Some Reihan Salam guy is plugging Coiln Powell for 2012. Isn't that weird?
MarkRNY:
IMHO, that is what makes Sarah Palin so dangerous, that the conservative movement has gone back to its old playbook and blueprint and like with Reagan we will live or die with the Gipper and with Sarah we live or die with the Cuda.
And if there is one key advantage Sarah has, besides the Internet and modern communication systems, is that she can be assured that by walking in the footsteps of Reagan that she will be successful; Reagan never had that 100% assurance himself as he was the one blazing the path.
I agree that the Green Room is good, and the Doctor Zero post was one of the best blog posts I've ever read. Maybe I'll go directly there and bypass the headlines and main page posts.
By the way, I followed allah on twitter for 3 days, at the end of which I was close to driving off a cliff. It was insufferable - 10 times worse than what you see on hot air. I had to drop him to preserve my sanity.
A good site if you haven't seen it yet is Riehl World View. Dan Riehl is very insightful on all things Palin and the problems with the GOP. Mind you, Dan Riehl provided substantive, fair criticism of the resignation decision, so it isn't just about finding someone we agree with 100% of the time.
AS they say, I didn't want to throw
out the 'baby with the bathwater' on Hot Air. Like I say there's a stark dichotomy between the sections I've tried to register there on more than one occassion. I guess Laura is kind of uninformed
on what's been going on up there. She clerked for Thomas, who had a hardscrabble background, I don't see how she could go for Romney,
the "Richie Rich" of American politics.
Remember P-DAY or Sarah Palin day on August 29, 2009!
the media will fail
If anybody from Palin's camp reads this site, please take a lesson from Newt. He just began his Twitter feed in Spanish. Good move and hopefully, Sarah does the same.
Twitter feed in Spanish? Might as well do all the languages while they're at it.
To Sarah's People:
To help understand what modern American Conservatism is, a good place to start is with Russell Kirk's 10 Conservative Principles.
http://www.kirkcenter.org/kirk/ten-
principles.html
Also, I'm almost done with Mark Levin's book "Liberty & Tyranny". This is the manifesto that we as ordinary barbarians should take to heart. Levin clearly articulates the struggle we are in: Statists vs. Conservatives/Libertarians/Constitutionalists
This is a good place to start.
The third source I recommend is Freidrich Hayek's "The Road to Serfdom".
Read these three. It is important that we get an understanding of conservatism and what the Sarah Palin Movement stands for.
Also, memorize the Declaration of Independence and keep a pocket copy of the Constitution at all times so you can quickly refer to it.
"TangledThorns said...
Twitter feed in Spanish? Might as well do all the languages while they're at it.
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Excellent recommendation.
Sarah should give an interview with glenn beck imo.
What's stopping CP4 from putting their Twitter feed on Spanish, too? Perhaps this site can reach out to Spanish speakers and start feeding them the truth about Palin.
Get ready this is mild. These kooks have 14 days to call her every name and more in the book. That is all they know how to do.
Sapwolf:
I think one of the misconceptions that we might all have about Sarah Palin is that she has not read or studied these works closely, but in fact unbeknowst to us she may be on top of her game with regards to every conservative idea and ideal and various nuances.
That Sarah holds her cards close to the vest, as she is reputed by politicos to do, should not be taken by her supporters that she is not currently doing her homework, is not in the process of planning to get her ducks in a row and not taking steps to fill in the gaps of her knowledge.
Think Tiger Woods one week before this coming British Open. Do you think Tiger was lying beside the pool all day, being a housebound husband with his kids, or spending all his time planning new golf courses or do you thing he might have been on the Isleworth golf course with his swing instructor every day going over every facet of his game and practicing until the sun down went down?
techno,
re:
>>unbeknowst to us she may be on top of her game with regards to every conservative idea and ideal and various nuances.
he he he.
If anybody from Palin's camp reads this site,please put an moderator on Sarah's facebook page.
There are many trolls on Sara's facebook , spitting insults and dirt.
We should be praying for her and for her and her families physical safety as well.
FOUR WORDS: Get ready to hurl.
Despite Republican misgivings, Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., told Sotomayor, "Unless you have a complete meltdown, you're going to get confirmed.
"And I don't think you will" have a meltdown, he added quickly as Sotomayor sat listening, her face in a half-smile.
Graham spoke after Sen. Patrick Leahy, D-Vt., chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, praised Sotomayor in remarks that opened the proceedings in a packed Senate hearing room. "She's been a judge for all Americans. She'll be a justice for all Americans," he said.
Leahy likened Sotomayor to other judicial pioneers, citing Thurgood Marshall, the first black justice on the high court, as well as Louis Brandeis, the first Jew, and Sandra Day O'Connor, the first woman.
"Let no one demean this extraordinary woman," Leahy said in a warning to committee Republicans to tread lightly in the days ahead.
"Let no one demean".....you mean like you did with Clarence Thomas? Robert Bork? Miguel Estrada, Pickering, Janice Rodgers Brown.
What despicable human beings the Libs on the committee are.
1-20-13, hope renewed for America
Change from Marxism!!
NoMORino's:
Hal, one of the contributors told me the other day that subject is off limits. This is not meant as a criticism, as I had my wrist slapped as well, but just a reminder.
Breaking News:
SarahPAC rakes in $733k in six months
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0709/24866.html
SarahPAC numbers are out.
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0709/24866.html
woah Patty. HAHAHAHA.
Note to Sarah--Get Lindsey Graham!
Thank You
Consider that Matt Scully worked with both Sarah and Mittens on there speeches. Did Mitt show any real insight into the challenge we faced, which was then in embryo form, What came out was Romney's snarky little jibes about book deals and mock concern about her family. With her, an awareness of the threats we faced, and that midwest/ western confidence about
facing them. with some self deprecating humor. I guess that's why Rush has a similar mindset.
Hmm...SarahPac numbers are out! For those who have been following politics longer than me and have far greater knowledge than I, how respectable are these numbers? I mean, I know she has not done any fundraisers, so this is just from web ads and word of mouth!
I guess I was anticipating at least over a million, but I have no idea!
OK, those are good numbers but nowhere near the totals techno promised. Now that she's more on the ground, I am assuming Sarah will round up the year nicely.
ways palin can counter these goons
1 NOW is the time to bring out the sarahpac numbers.
2 interviews
Great read in the American Thinker on Sarah's resignation:
http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/07/sarah_palins_declaration_of_in.html
Best line of the article:
"There is a fundamental fact that is often overlooked about the Declaration of Independence. It was a declaration of war."
Cilizza says it's good.
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/thefix/eye-on-2012/palins-pac-raises-700000.html#comments
Sarah PAC, the political action committee formed by Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin earlier this year to maintain her national profile, raised $733,000 in the first six months of the year, according to reports filed with the Federal Election Commission today.
During that same time period, Palin spent $276,000 --largely on fundraising appeals and consultants -- and ended June with $457,000 in the bank. None of Palin's contributions came from political action committees, an attempt -- seemingly -- to preserve her outsider and reform credentials.
Palin's largest expenditure went to "Edonation.com/Campaign Solutions", the fundraising company run by Becki Donatelli and based in Alexandria, Virginia. Sarah PAC doled out roughly $106,000 to the firm for fundraising during the first six months of the year. Donatelli and Palin parted ways in late April.
Palin also paid several Sarah PAC staffers monthly stipends including former Republican National Committee finance director Timothy Crawford ($6,000/month), personal/political spokesman Meg Stapleton ($4,000/month) and PAC spokeswoman Pam Pryor ($6,000/month). Palin also made a series of $8,000 payments to IzzyLene Consulting, an Anchorage-based consulting firm.
Palin made two campaign contributions during the first six months of 2009. She gave $5,000 each to the re-election races of Sens. John McCain (R-Ariz.) and Lisa Murkowski (R-Alaska).
Former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney leads the way in terms of fundraising by potential 2012 Republican candidates. Romney showed nearly $1.4 million raised through his Free and Strong America PAC at the end of May.
Palin's showing is, however, a sign that she can raise cash at the national level and that she will be a player in the 2010 midterm elections if she, as expected, chooses to involve herself in downballot races.
It is all the more impressive given the chaos that surrounded her operation -- and herself -- over the first half of 2009. If Palin can spend her time out of office organizing a serious national effort, these numbers suggest the financial support is out there to help her.
SarahPAC numbers are pretty good considering they made almost no effort to actually raise any money for it in the past 6 months.
NoMoRino's,
re:
>>Get ready to hurl.
- Sarah won't be happy.
Patty or someone,
Can you take a look at her FEC filing and give us a review of the $200 and over crowd.
OK, so much of money that she raised was already going to Becky Donatelli. Good thing she got rid of her.
This does not make any sense. Kathleen Parker reported that Sarah raised $400,000 in the first month. That either means KP is full of crap or that Sarah only raised $333,000 from March 1 to June 30th. I find the latter inconceivable.
wisetrog,
I never thought she would have the numbers Techno predicted either. I respect Techno but she has done no fundraisers and no advertising except for web ads and in an Obama economy that sucks people just can't part with that much money. I am very encouraged. All things considered I think this is very respectable. What I am more interested to know are the number of contributors as apposed to the total dollar amount.
wisetrog,
you said:
>>OK, so much of money that she raised was already going to Becky Donatelli. Good thing she got rid of her
can u 'splain, please.
thx
Well, I guess the $5000 donated to McCain means she will endorse him. While I always knew she would do this, I still think the guy needs to go.
Good article in American Thinker, Sarah Palin's Declaration of Independence:
http://tiny.cc/ldxDx
Hal,
well, for introducing SP to the public, he kind deserves not $5,000, but more like
$500,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 x 99
ha ha ha ha ha
She paid Becky 100,000? For what? leaks? And that ridiculous website?
wisetrog:
If these numbers are true then I don't know what I am talking about and I am the first to admit that.
The facts on the ground do not match up with these figures.
In addition I find it hard to believe that Sarah would resign being governor based on these numbers. Perhaps she knows the avalanche that may be coming or perhaps her position being under siege became so untenable that it did not matter how much SarahPAC had raised.
Frankly, I am stunned.
Bill in B, yes I will always be grateful to McCain for picking her, but I still would like him replaced by a more conservative Senator.
Techno,
Maybe I was not clear.
We all know Sarah is a conservative. My point was that WE need to study conservatism.
I come across so many people, many who are Sarah fans who don't understand conservatism. This is their first encounter with people who have been conservatives/libertarians for years before Sarah Palin hit the political scene. Now they can enjoy the best of conservative thought as they follow Sarah and study up so we can all keep up with her.
This number is about as much as I expected. I say 'thumbs up'.
Ditto wisetrog on the Becky Donatelli comment.
techno, that is why we were advising you caution. These numbers are still very good. Kahtleen Parker might still be true because remember then Donatelli was actively fundraising for her. After her firing, no one was. So without a fundraiser, without much advertising etc, she still could make those dollars which is pretty good. I want to know the no. of donors.
Once Sarah begins her operation, it's gonna be good.
I expected a little more, maybe we should have done a Webathon, for SarahPac. Then again there was
more urgency with the burden on the Alaska Trust. Ziegler, seems to be the authority, she really loves that old coot, Murkowski, hasn't shown too much gratitude however.
Pretty good for Sarah, but notice the bleeding that went to Campaign Solutions?
Two words: "Jesus wept." Sarah obviously understood that she wasn't getting proper bang for the buck.
Meg is worth her weight in gold as a spokesperson, and deserves a raise.
Definitely get out there and start speechifying so you can start hiring headquarters staff for Anchorage and start looking for a rental home in the Lower 48 (CO?). Watch the expenditures.
All in all, good going for first six monts.
Mittens raised 1.4 million dollars and not only can he not draw flies, Heydrich could beat him in a race for a seat in the Knesset.
wisetrog,
about Becky, I don't have any of that background knowledge.
I wish they would hire me . . . 10 years software project manager . . . 9 years software programmer . . . twitterer . . .
ok, I'm dreaming.
You can get the form at this link.
http://tiny.cc/BN54d
I don't see the total number of contributors anywhere on the form. I think that is the key number. Number of repeat contributors also would be key.
Honestly I can now understand why Obama spent money paying bloggers. I bet paying bloggers to create and execute web-based fundraising is a lot cheaper than paying "consultants" like Becky Donatelli and can probably do about as well in raising funds. I think Palin needs to start poaching from C4P. We want to help!
Isn't it interesting that there's so much information about her than there's about others. have we seen info about how much Romney is paying his staff? I haven't.
What did Campaign Solutions due for that money, I remember I went there at the time of the time they
'amicably' separated; no
interactive links. I had to go to the Wikipedia page to find out what they had done. Btw, 24,000 is no where enough what Meg has had to deal with in the last six months
McCain is still not getting the point, however, look at his latest
idiocy;
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ap/top/all/6527012.html
I posted this earlier on the adn, ankle-biter blog, but thought it might bear repeating here.
Something to remember for those that think the only thing Sarah Palin can do, now, is speak & support those that hold her same beliefs and political philosophy...that still think that the only reason she is leaving office, at this time, is due to the attacks on her family...that, if she couldn't handle it then, she surely will not be able to handle it running for any other office, or on any political stage.
NO POLITICIAN in office, or running for office, should have to endure the vicious attacks on family that Sarah has. While in office, as Governor, defending those attacks was akin to using a fly swatter to defend herself against a grizzly. The national stage, in whatever she chooses to do, affords her the opportunity (and the right)to stand up publicly, politically & morally against slanderous, malicious & self-grandizing statements by those individuals that have no other purpose than to destroy her & members of her family...
It is one thing to question or debate someone on their political, and even (sometimes) personal, philosophy & opinion. It is quite another to viciously attack their family as a way to discredit those philosophies & beliefs.
I, myself, find it morally reprehensible that some women, no matter their political persuasion or personal beliefs, have gone after her & her family with such unbridled, vitriolic condemnation.
Nobody, male or female, could have possibly reached her status without intelligence and innate wisdom. To think that she does not have what it takes to put her wherever she strives to be in the political arena...well, frankly, just shows a failure to appreciate where she has been & how she got to where she is, now.
She will, in the future, achieve whatever she sets her mind to.
She had raised the 733k proves she is competitive in the run up to the primaries, IF she chooses that path.
Considering that she was tied up in AK during the 6-month period makes it more impressive.
I am really glad she's coming to the Lower 48 soon, because she can go about letting people know about SarahPAC.
Not that many people are aware of her PAC. Two weeks ago a lady called me from North Dakota RNC to solicit donations and I told her that my donations go only to SarahPAC and I was surprised she never heard about it. I don't think she was playing dumb, but it shows that outside the inner core of her supporters,there's still a lack of information about the need for fund raising.
But that will soon change after July 26.
VIVA SARAH!
Over at HA a poll of who you would vote for in 2012:
SARAH PLAIN 66% (910 VOTES)
MITT ROMNEY 33% (447)
BARACK OBAMA 1% (17)
TOTAL VOTES 1374
I haven't seen any estimates on how much the resignation is costing the state of Alaska. There will be a special session and certainly some expenses in changing names on stationery, etc. Will this be less than the cost of legal defenses?
We have no information on whom she consulted with prior to the resignation except for her children. There should have been a publication of the costs and benefits. Certainly she established this before she announced the decision to resign.
Sandra,
Do you know how much it cost when Kim Elton accepted Obama's payoff for Tasergate and he left office early?
Doug: I don't think it cost a special session of the legislature. Did Elton say that he was leaving to save the state money? I hadn't seen that.
Sandra,
Several points. First, I reject the premise that there is even a need for a special session. The new AG, Dan Sullivan stated yesterday that there is no need for a special session and General Campbell can serve until the legislature reconvenes in 2010, at which time he can be confirmed.
http://juneauempire.com/stories/071209/loc_462410851.shtml
It's not Governor Palin's fault that Ramras wants to call a special session because, well, he's an a**hole. Second, even if there were a special session, it would cost less than the millions it would cost the state to investigate the frivolous complaints which will continue until she leaves. It has cost $1.9 million (or $190,000/month) for the 10 months since August 29th. She has another 18 months to go so it is reasonable to conclude it will cost the state an additional $3.4 million at $190,000 per month. Will a special session cost that much, even if it was neccesssary? Nope. Third, Kim Elton's decison to accept Obama's payoff in the middle of a legislative session cost the state, period. You can't whine about her leaving and give him a pass. Fourth, what about the opportunity cost to the state? How much legislative action will have to be forgone if the administration is immersed in fighting these ludicrous complaints? The citizens of Alaska will incur the brunt of this cost in lost government services, efficiencies, etc.
my friends,
I am pissed, and downhearted. I know, it's nothing new.
But my Reaganite friend, who's retired but still active in DC, just gave me this article as proof that SP is not fit for higher office:
http://www.nbcmiami.com/news/us_world/Sarah-Palins-Worst-Enemy.html
The title of the article is "Sarah Palin's own worst enemy" (is Meg Stapleton)"
The entire article is about Levi Johnston and it actually says this:
Johnston's explanation for Palin's quitting seems to be more honest and straight-forward than Palin's own (or Stapleton's subsequent defenses). In short, he sounds more "plain-talking common-sense" than the so-called "maverick" governor
I'm downhearted. I know, techno, what you said.
The article also said this:
Again, Johnston is a 19-year-old kid. The only way he's a threat to the Palins is if they let him become one. The smart response to his comments is to either (preferably) just ignore them or, alternately, just play them down. One could say, "The governor has made the reasons for her decision known. It's been more than six months since Levi lived with the Palins. He's not in a position to know what's transpired since then." With such a response, Palin and Co. remain above the fray.
you don't want to know what I told him. I may not be hearing from him any longer, and it was a good source of info for me.
Now I just spent 45 minutes responding to him and alerting you, late for dinner, and wife ticked.
Back online later tonight.
Anyone else listening to Bay Buchanon on Eddie Burke? I appreciate her viewpoint, support of the Governor, and her comments...
...However, I'm really tired of the same talking points:
"She needs to study..."
"She needed to go up to Alaska and do a good job..."
"She quit on the people of Alaska"
I really REALLY think the Governor is aware of these things! For the umpteenth time, she is resigning because her ability to do her job was being hijacked!
I agree that Gov. Palin's resignation speech could have been better. She can now hire a speechwriter.
On the second point, Gov. Palin will now (sans ethics complaints) have the time to devote to learning about the issues and holding the appropriate meetings with the appropriate people. Though, I believe she has been doing this on her own all along...
I tell ya, just because WE don't know exactly what she's doing, doesn't mean SHE doesn't know what she's doing!
bill in baltimore:
I did screw in the fundraisng totals big time.
But yes, I understand public perception. I am a simpleton plus I know how average people think or I have a vivid imagination to know how they think.
I know why Obama is using Levi. You were upset at me for calling him a Judas. What did Judas do? He betrayed Jesus. Forget about the religious significance. He did what he did. And so Levi is doing what he is doing.
Now you might ask me what Sarah can do. Well, Bill that's a tough one. I called Levi her Achilles' heel several months ago and as you know an Achilles' heel is hard to shake.
Having said that every candidate has to overcome something: for Romney its his business ties and money, for Huckabee is the perception he is intolerant and a religious fanatic, for Pawlenty he is too boring and not competitive against Obama, for Newt its his marriages and life in Congress, and for Sarah it's Levi Johnston and the perception Sarah is unsophisticated and white trash.
IMHO Sarah has an easier road to how than anyone else.
Bill, I can't believe you'd believe an article written/appearing over at NBC. They just paid good money in this bad economy to fly Levi from AK and put him up in Manhattan--and for what? NADA.....he said nothing new. They must've expected some bombshell. In the last hour of the Today show, Kathy Lee and her cohort went on and on calling Levi all sorts of derogatory names and saying what a waste he was---and he was on THEIR show. He's a punk. Forget about him.
The idea that the president is using Levi must be a joke! Levi is not a political person. As I recall he wasn't even registered to vote last November.
If Meg didn't get all hot about Levi he wouldn't have these "lucrative" offers.
Before Levi issued his first public utterance about Sarah Palin back when he and Bristol were still together, big-time Obama supporter and attorney Rex Butler shows up as the Johnston family lawyer. And it's been all downhill ever since.
Just a coincidence, right Sandra?
Please...
What makes you think Butler is tied to Obama? Because he made a donation of $250 to his primary? If that's all it takes to be big time I'll start donating to something.
For those who may have forgotten, C4P gave us the story of Rex Butler, Tank Jones, et. al. a while back. Here's the link:
http://www.conservatives4palin.com/2009/05/money-grubbing-smear-merchants-rex_01.html
HowIroll,
it wasn't I who believed the article written at NBC Miami.
It was my retired Reaganite friend who is still in DC and still active.
Regarding the article, my Reaganite friend said:
"I agree with the article's suggestion as to how Megan Stapleton should have responded.I agree completely with that assessment."
Here's what the article suggests:
>>The smart response to his comments is to either (preferably) just ignore them or, alternately, just play them down. One could say, "The governor has made the reasons for her decision known. It's been more than six months since Levi lived with the Palins. He's not in a position to know what's transpired since then." With such a response, Palin and Co. remain above the fray.
<<
- PERHAPS this might be considered good advice, but the article also said the Levi better articulated why the Gov resigned than the Gov herself - - - oops, there goes the credibility of the entire article !
and with it the credibility of the author and the news organization.
Plus, the article gives the halo to Levi and blame to the Palins:
>>Johnston is a 19-year-old kid. The only way he's a threat to the Palins is if they let him become one
Look, I'm getting really ticked on this one. Let it go ? Oh, should I let it go when someone bullies my child at school.
- Turn the other cheek ? Oh yeah, someone comes to my house and messes with my family ? I'll take another interpretation of that verse, thank you.
sandra --
I truly don't believe you're that dumb. Dissembling maybe, but not dumb.
Read the story here on C4P. Rex Butler was attacking Palin as racist and being quoted on it on Obama's website DURING THE CAMPAIGN.
Doug: I checked the link and didn't find a connection between Obama and Butler.
Al B.: I will ignore the insinuation because you wouldn't find anyone to back you up. A statement about Palin that was on an Obama website doesn't mean much. Maybe you should give a link to that. Thank you.
sandra:
I know your a troll, but I will answer your question anyway for newer commenters here who may not know these facts:
1) Rex Butler was widely quoted during the presidential campaign that Sarah "didn't care about black people". This quote was picked up by the Obama campaign and incorporated into the meme they tried to push that Sarah was a racist. Butler's quote was used by all the Obama blogs and it went viral. Do you think that was just an accident or do you not think there was coordination between Butler and the Obama campaign.
2) Rex Butler has been a long time Democrat going all the way back to the late 1980s when he was Chairman of the Jessie Jackson for President Campaign in Alaska.
I could go on but I think this is enough.
The Levi situation is that whatever he says, the public has already discounted it, especially after the Tyra Banks' interview. In short the novelty has worn off.
It's what an investment adviser would say about the stock price of a company after the release of its balance sheet. "It's already factored into the price".
So Levi is irrelevant.
Right now my concern is still with the GOP Politburo. I hope their rapprochement with Sarah is being worked out by mediators this week.
What McCain said on Meet The Press and Newt being so positive today about Sarah may indicate to me that the Politburo may have come to their senses.
Let's hope so.
VIVA SARAH!
re-posting in case some of you missed it . . .
I had a dream last night . . . and it was REALLY, REALLY GOOD.
Toki, be sure to read this dream.
My dream was so vivid, I typed it up in a .pdf document, here it is:
Conservatism, simply defined
http://www.info-scroll.com/documents/conservatism_defined.pdf
-----------------------------------------
Also from this weekend, please read my barbarian manifesto, trolls and barbarians alike.
http://www.info-scroll.com/documents/my_barbarian_manifesto.pdf
The manifesto was authored solely by me and is authorized only by me.
still looking for an answer . . .
barbarians,
who in the Republican Party, if they broke ranks and subtly or outwardly started seeing the starpower of Sarah Palin and talking her up, would do the most good for the cause of TAKING BACK THIS COUNTRY.
I have no idea, and I am sure there's going to be lots of choices, but if I had to decide right now and I had only one phone call I was allowed to make, I would call Newt Gingrich.
What do you think ?
happymullah: re Levi
I agree with you Levi has been fully discounted. The only ones who tunes into this crap are the Dems who hate Sarah.To everybody else it is old news.
In fact, at this point Levi shooting his mouth off is now a positive for Sarah. Most decent people in this country who have teenage daughters - and who have had to deal with some of the losers they some times date - sympathize with Sarah. As Pat Buchannan said today most fathers out there agree that Todd should shove this kid's head in the toilet.
The nedia who continue to give this kid a stage are also continuing to discredit themselves in most peoples' eyes. From this point on he helps Sarah. If I was Meg Stapleton and the media wanted a comment I would say " the Gov. has no comment on this, and Bristol will also not comment on Tripp's father's behavior".
happymullah,
you said:
>>I agree with you Levi has been fully discounted
- maybe in the average Joe's eyes. I had a Reaganite throw at article at me today scolding Megan how to better handle the press and that the Gov should "stay above the fray".
I was sent this article as a means of explaining how SP is not ready for prime time, she should "take care of her house" first.
I'm really steamed on this.
Is there not one good man who will say "No" to sending a film crew to Alaska to hear Levi grunt out a few words about his relationship with Bristol ?
- NO, there is not one good man. They're all punks.
RAM,
they say you get "hot under the collar"
- well, duh . . .
Keep up the good work and being passionate for truth.
just in case anyone needs a handy reference, I summarized SP's reasons for resigning:
Summary of reasons on why Sarah Palin resigned:
1. Productive, fulfilled people determine where to put their efforts, and to build up, choosing to wisely use precious time, and to build up. She chooses to serve Alaska and America in a different capacity, having achieved numerous successes and leaving Alaska in the capable hands of Lt. Gov. Sean Parnell.
2. She chooses to build up for Alaska and the USA. She chooses to fight !
3. She will work hard for others who still believe in free enterprise and smaller government, strong national security, and energy independence
4. She will support others who seek to serve for the right reasons
5. She chooses more freedom to progress, all the way around, so that Alaska may progress.
6. She didn't want to be a lame-duck Governor and just "milk" the paycheck by taking trips and the like.
7. She is determined to take the right path for Alaska, even though it is uncomfortable and unconventional.
8. She chooses to take a stand and effect change, because positive change can occur outside of government as well as inside.
9. She wants to make a difference for the priorities we hold dear, for Alaskans and Americans.
10. She does not want Alaska's critical public resources to be wasted on frivolous ethics charges.
11. She is taking the fight for what is right for Alaska in a new direction.
12. She is not retreating. She is advancing the fight in a different direction.
you can also reference it here:
http://www.info-scroll.com/documents/palin_resignation_speech.pdf
summary is at the bottom
I agree with the fact that meg needs to stop releasing statements about levi.
It's over... Don't pay attention to him..
when was the last statement on Levi issued by Meg ?
and the one before that ?
I just want some facts before I join the throng of "Down Megan ! Down Megan !"
I guess my last message didn't get through. Patty Hewes, I appreciate your using your own name. For some reason other people can't. We should be free to disclose our ideas.
Thank you.
Glenn Beck's take on Palin's decision.
http://www.glennbeck.com/content/articles/article/198/27785/
Levi's a loser, but Meg's last statement about his interview in his lawyer's office was a light punch and funny. It was dismissive. I think that's about all they need to say though at this point.
And about Laura Ingraham, she's okay, but she's still a party girl. She hasn't quite caught the train yet. And I never understood the conservative pundits love affair with Romney last primary season. Just look at his record. Ewww. And Romneycare? Give me a break. He's got interesting hair, and that's about it.
Sarah Palin is correct, there is a significant amount of apathy to speak up about corruption. Who will speak out and do what is right fro America?
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