Jim Minnery's Faux Outrage
Governor Palin gets thousands of event invitations. She turns most of them down, but, because they have often ginned up interest in their event by advertising the governor's attendance, the organizers fail to advertise the fact that she has turned them down.
The latest brouhaha involves Governor Palin and the Alaska Family Council and their president Jim Minnery:
Alaska Family Council President Jim Minnery said it was news to him when a reporter told him that Stapleton was saying Palin had no knowledge of the speech, which his group has been promoting. He said organizers have been talking to Palin "contacts" for weeks about it.
"All we can do is take people at their word that we've worked with in the past," Minnery said. "We've been working for several weeks on the event, promoting it very heavily. It would be a grave disappointment if she doesn't show up but the show will still go on."
He declined to say who the organizers had been speaking to. "I'd just prefer to keep it kind of anonymous right now, especially since you're hearing something that's opposite of what we've been hearing."
[...]
Palin spokeswoman Stapleton said Palin was indeed invited to the fundraiser.
"She had hoped to be able to attend but cannot return (to Alaska) in time for that private fundraiser," Stapleton said.
She said Palin notified the group that she would be out of town; Minnery said he didn't know anything about Palin saying she wouldn't be in Anchorage.
As of Wednesday evening, Palin's picture was still featured prominently on the Family Council's Web site promoting the public event, with a headline "Former Gov. Palin & Star Parker to Kick Off Campaign." The group's e-mail newsletter last week said that "following her speech on the importance of parental involvement in abortion decisions," Palin would sign the petition. The Family Council describes itself on its Web site as a "non-profit Christian public policy organization dedicated to protecting and strengthening the family."
Stapleton said Palin had previously agreed to be the first signer of the petition for the ballot measure pushed by the family council. But, "obviously since the signature-gathering process started a couple of weeks ago there was less pressure to get home to be the first to sign," she said Wednesday.
Minnery said organizers had already started collecting signatures but still planned for Palin's signature to appear as the first "official" one on the first petition packet. That packet was set aside with space for her to sign at tonight's event
The invitation, as described by the Family Council, for the governor to be the first "official" signature on the petition, somehow became a public speech in the ADN's article:
Organizers of an Anchorage event that has been billing Sarah Palin for weeks as a star speaker were left scrambling Wednesday after learning that the former governor won't be there for tonight's event and claims to have never been asked.
Alaska Family Council President Jim Minnery said it was news to him when a reporter told him that Stapleton was saying Palin had no knowledge of the speech, which his group has been promoting.
Many of our readers know that C4P's policy is not to post on events such as this until they are confirmed by the governor's spokesperson, Meghan Stapleton. As we've said before: Until Stapleton says it's happening, it's not happening. When Meghan Stapleton comes out and says that Palin will be at an event -- that is when we post on that event.
Here is just one example of how these types of things can occur: The Southern Republican Leadership Conference has invited Governor Palin to attend their event in April of 2010. Read their advertisement on Palin here. Okay, so she is invited. She is invited just like the other speakers on the "invited list," which include: Rick Perry, Tim Pawlenty, Haley Barbour and others. That's fine. Now, this is where problems can arise:

That is a screen shot of the Republican Leaderships Conference's front page. This page has not changed in weeks. Governor Palin is always the "featured" invited guest. There is no "rotation" of invited guests for front page treatment. Problems arise because people who have checked their site for the last few weeks will only see Palin. Well, that means only one thing: Palin will be at the event! Where do I get my ticket? However, Governor Palin is only "invited" and has not confirmed her attendance for this event, or any other event, to my knowledge.
Now, back to Jim Minnery. I find his "outrage" to be sorely misplaced. You may remember that Jim Minnery has slammed the governor in the past. In at least two instances he has criticized Governor Palin for things that were beyond her control. Once on her first veto as governor, and another on her selection of Morgan Christian as Alaska Supreme Court Justice. In both events, Governor Palin simply followed the Constitution that she swore an oath to uphold.
It is clear that the facts are on Governor Palin's side:
1. Governor Palin was invited to kick off the event by attending a private fundraiser.
2. There was never a mention in the invitation the Council sent out that Governor Palin would be speaking at a public event.
3. Governor Palin notified the private fundraiser that she would be out of town on that date, but has offered to make a donation.
4. The signing of the petition in question has already been started. Therefore, Governor Palin will simply sign the petition when she returns home.
I am sure that Governor Palin would love to attend most of the events to which she is invited. However, it is just not possible to attend every event. There is one simple rule to follow regarding this subject: Wait until an event is confirmed by Meghan Stapleton or the governor herself.






176 comments:
Sarah Palin didn't come over to my house for dinner last night. I'm so disappointed that she broke our date.
Oh, that date was only in my imagination? Never mind.
Monster...
I swore she said she would be at my house! I never sent anything to her..I just used her name and had these folks show up! Damn...Sarah...you were supposed to be here! Looks like she stood us both up!
I guess if your going to have a problem it might as well be that you are too popular like Sarah Palin.
I asked Gov. Palin to come to my school to speak last year! She nevered showed! Now all my liberal friends make fun of me! ***sniff, sob!***
-Jane
I think Sarah thumbed a ride on the space shuttle, probably picked her up passing by on her magic carpet with LOTUS!... talk about rarefied air!
One would think y'all would wise up by now. But then, that would mean taking the blinders off, and once they've been on a long time, it's fairly painful to remove them.
Good luck on your twitterer quitter returning to feed your faithfulness anytime soon.
With what's going on.... Can you imagine what the last chapter of her book is going to be about?
Ugh!... Dave... look in the mirror!
David-
I sometimes hate addressing trolls but if you don't have a sense of humor, I guess I could tell you that the above posts were a lot of sarcasm.
***sigh*** Here goes another one. ***door slams and David screams in pain***
-Jane
I don't understand why this has to happen, but I certainly can forsee the media making a big deal out of this, and snowballing it if it continues to happen.
I don't know this group from a hole in the head, but, since they invited Sarah to speak at their event, I'm assuming that they are supporters. Why can't these groups be definitively told whether Sarah will attend or not? Why this BS down to the last minute, and it will ALWAYS reflect negatively on Sarah because that's how the media will play it.
Isn't it normal to inform a group well in advance whether you will or will not attend an event in which you are invited to be a principal guest?
Wouldn't it be a courtesy to simply say "NO, she won't be attending", as opposed to "Well, it's not confirmed so don't count on it."
But more importantly, wouldn't it be polictally savvy to nip this shit in the bud by telling all these damn groups yes or no, so this doesn't boomerang? These damn idiot groups aren't going to change.
This makes no sense. It's stupid.
Anonymous sure is a popular source for Sarah Palin stories.
Who is this Anonymous everyone doesn't want to name?
I don't think it's me? Could it be me? Maybe it is me, and I don't even know it. That just blew my mind. No, no, I think I would know if it was me. Wouldn't I? I am a little freaked out. Wow, I sure do make things up about Sarah Palin if it is me. How would I know if I am not Anonymous? If they say Anonymous, it could be anyone. I am getting a headache trying to wrap my brain around the fact that I might be Anonymous. I think Anonymous is a doofus, so I hope it's not me, because then I would think that I am a doofus.
Anyone have any thoughts?
I just took my blinders off and the first thing I read is a troll's comment! He's right, that was painful!
I think that you could be, but then again, you couldn't, but really, you could. I mean if you are, you are, but what if you aren't? Ack, my brain hurts. Sorry Nancy. I honestly have no idea whether you're anonymous or not. Hey, why don't you ask Sarah Palin?
-Jane
I am requesting she come to my class Graduation tommorrow. If she is not there I am going to let the MSM know she stood me up.
Jane,
Thanks for trying, it is confusing! By the way, it isn't you is it? Because you are definately not a doofus, but everyone is up for scrutiny. So, I guess until Anonymous is revealed, it could potentially be anyone!
I don't think it's you, and I don't think it's me, so there are two people that aren't this Anonymous person. I think this could take awhile!
And while at it PEC, let MSM know that she didn't come to my school!
-Jane
Okay.. Sarah you should have been here...I am going on a bobcat hunt as he came back...just heard him in the scrub oak!....see you should have been here!
Nope, I'm pretty sure it isn't me. Wait, did I slip...? Oh crap Katie C. help meeeeeeeeeeee! I'm confused!
Word Verification: "Palintal"
That's it- I'm palintal! Help!
-Jane
Hey Jimmy M....
Ever hear the saying...
MAN UP...AND TAKE RESPONSIBILITY OF YOUR POSITION...
You might want to check your.. By-Laws and your Organizational Chart... Might be quite useful...
Just a thought...
BTW...Your a Piss Poor President...
According to that site:
We have been in regular communications with the Governor’s staff over the last several weeks. We were assured that Governor Palin was personally aware of this evening’s event, and that she twice confirmed her intent to participate.
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They either need to name names of who among Palin's staff is sabotaging her efforts or Palin has to lock down on her staff and make sure they don't speak out of turn.
hmmm...they were in "regular contact with the Governor's staff". Governor Parnell?
who knows? but someone is needing a "re-adjustment" as my mom says. It's either the source or the staff.
-Jane
I have to say, I agree with EdFab. it's just confusing.
But we don't know the end of the story, it's just . . . we've heard this story before.
The tipoff is Minnery not naming his source, so the gig is up right there.
Nevertheless, Meg's statement isn't too reassuring, given the demand for Sarah's time:
>>"She had hoped to be able to attend but cannot return (to Alaska) in time for that private fundraiser,"
My benefit of the doubt goes to Sarah, but this is another PR loss, despite our outrage.
My Reaganite friend thinks he just got another piece of information, since it matches his "lens" through which he sees Sarah.
And I will still say this is not rocket science to manage someone's expectations.
Until they start identifyong WHO they are in contact with it doesn't mean squat.
WOW, so she is not attending, life as we know it is over LOL. Big woop, she is not attending. So freakin what, she will sign the petition, it is a bill that she helped create, of course she will sign it, but she is not even in the state, unless she is a bird, she can't fly back in time to sign it. This guy is the same fool that made a big deal about the Supreme Court justice she chose. This is the way it is, when Sarah IS attending an event, it will be posted on facebook, if its not posted there, its all BS. Oh and by the way, I invited Sarah to my house for dinner Saturday night, if she doesn't come I am gonna be so pissed. She promised me and everything, Ok, yeah I know, it was in my dream but if you can't rely on a dream, what the heck can we rely on :-)
sometimes I want to cry for Sarah Palin. I wish she could be in so many places at one time because she is so popular but I know that she deserves her own time as well.
How can she be in 2 places at once?
Who makes up Sarah's staff at this time (other than Meg)?
I guess Piper forgets to properly complete one of those pink "While You Were Out" slips whenever she answers the land line when Mom is out grocery shopping. Sarah misses a call and all hell breaks lose. LOL.
Why do ADN and CNN STILL waste time writing stories about a woman who's "finished" in American politics? LOL! Mitt's name is in the mix for Ted Kennedy's seat adn most people really could give a s--t about it! They're more worried about Sarah supposedly shriking speeches at local clubs.
EdFab
Have you never been invited to an event that you really wanted to attend – say a friend’s wedding – but you were not sure due to other unconfirmed commitments? So you tell your friends, you would love to come and hope you’ll be able to make it but you’ll let him know.
Governor Palin gets thousands of invitations, many of those she declines but there are some she wants to attend but cannot confirm, so she tells the organizers she will confirm yes or no at a later day. The fact that those people want to “cash in” on her appearance and therefore they need a quick response is not exactly Sarah’s problem.
These people gamble on her appearance and promote her attendance anyway. What do they have to lose if she doesn’t show up? They made their money. That’s why they leave it to the last minute to announce that she isn’t coming because if they do it earlier they lose on ticket sales.
It’s not that Sarah leaves it to the last minute it’s the event organizers.
Lakerfanalways-
It's like my dream when she came to my school on a flying bus (too much Magic School Bus when I was younger) and then got all mad at me for something I didn't remember.
Besides, when she gets mad, steam literally comes out of her ears. At least, in my dream she does.
Gov. Palin, quit coming into my dreams! LOL
-Jane
Good people, I recognize sarcasm. I did not misunderstand the initial posts.
I'm acknowledging that Sarah has done a no-show 5 or 6 or more times now, where there's been some "misunderstanding" about her pledge to appear/participate.
Once, okay. Twice, maybe. Three times? Signals start to go off. Four time!?! Something is wrong here. Five times!!!?!?!??? Okay, we see a pattern. And so it goes.
How long can we excuse this whatever it is, behavior or staff incompetence? You have to keep a running tab on this type of thing, because sure as shootin', there are people who are keeping that running tab.
And who will be left holding the bill?
beck killed the ratings yesterday. (per AllahPundit) Exit Question: palin bounce?
http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/ratings/the_scoreboard_wednesday_august_26_129626.asp
could be a rush bounce?
David,
your interpretation of the facts is whacked. As are you.
lakerfan,
I agree. Big hairya** deal. I would bet that 90% of Sarah's supporters didn't even know that she was going to attend this function let alone "not attend". Face it guys...not everyone follows Sarah as closely as we do here...:-)
Having said that, it does make Sarah's "camp" look unprofessional to the untrained eye, and we all know here that there are already enough "reporters" around to do that.
What I find more intrigueing is that she is "out of state". Where the he** is she????
I think everyone in this country knows what Sarah Palin looks like, and not one Photo or article about her??? You would think that at least the tabloids would be hounding her, but not even a little bitty photo. I just find that really wierd.
Hmmmm...where's TMZ when you need them!....:-)
David
Actually this is the fourth time. Yes something is wrong here. PEOPLE NEED TO STOP USING SARAH AS AN ATM
David-
Did you see on any of the media outlets that Meg Stapleton did confirm the event?
She didn't.
And yet ADN goes and says she will attend, then oh crap, she won't. Everyone gets in a tizzy and blames her.
But she never said she would go in the first place. Sure, she'd like to go, but she might have other plans, etc.
Meg never confirmed it on Facebook.
Our policy here (if you read the article) is that if an event comes up and Meg didn't confirm it, it's a no-show.
-Jane
Sarah's power shines again:
http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/08/27/big-beck-goes-over-3-million-viewers-beats-oreilly-in-demo-cable-news-ratings-for-wednesday-august-26-2009/25541
Beck crushed 'em yesterday. Sarah's friends tuned in.
David - what a pity you so willingly attribute these snafus to Gov Palin's side vice the more likely possibility that these organizations jump the gun in their eagerness to lock her into supporting their event? An invitation means nothing until/unless it is publically accepted.
Wouldn't it be logical for Gov Palin to publicize her participation in those activities she has chosen to support? Politicians normally love to spread the news regarding their public events.
All they have to do is publically identify who they have been speaking to, who accepted on Palin's behalf - until they do that it seems like the error is on those planners.
Beck even beat O'Reilly in the demo, these are jaw-dropping numbers:
http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/08/27/big-beck-goes-over-3-million-viewers-beats-oreilly-in-demo-cable-news-ratings-for-wednesday-august-26-2009/25541
How can you be a no show if you never said you would show. I wonder if the problem is Willow is on the phone with a friend and these people call her interrupting Willow and she gives it the ole teen "yeah whatever" to get them off the phone and they take that as a confirmed yes from Sarah's staff.
terri
To be honest I don’t want to know where she is. You want to know why? Because she doesn’t want me to know. When she’ll want us to follow her moves and know exactly where she is at all times she will tell us.
In the meantime please stop speculating and guessing and trying to figure out where she is and what she is doing. This is how rumors begin and end up making Sarah look unprofessional.
She’s been out of office for what, 5 weeks. With all the crap she’s be dealing with for over 10 months she deserves to be under cover for a couple of months.
Our duty now is to defend her and defend what she stands for. The rest will follow in due course.
Baboonking,
As someone so kindly told me here...
"Tinycc is your friend"...:-)
http://www.tiny.cc/
PEC,
that's a good one, re: Willow . . .
@Bill in Baltimore,
You said my interpretation of the facts were whacked.
Facts have a funny way of being, you know, truth you can point to with reliability.
Facts are that there have been multiple instances where MAJOR organizations have said she is coming to attend/speak/whatever and later had egg on their faces when she was a no-show.
That's facts. I interpret those facts that either her organization is totally FUBAR, or she is a whack job. (Not that she has much of an organization, mind you, Meggie is just a mouth... sort of like a target Sarah pays to stand up and be shot at...)
So, your "interpretation" of the facts that Sarah has bailed out of, how many now, arrangements is, what exactly?
OT - Repeat Comment from Open Thread
Wednesday's TV ratings are out and Beck scored a huge number!
In the all important 25 to 54 age demographic Beck was the highest rated show on all cable news channels at 888,000 beating second place Bill O'Reilly at 876,000. This is the first time in ages that anyone has beaten O'Reilly and is all the more impressive because Beck is on at 5PM while O"Reilly is on at 8PM.
In terns of total viewers, Beck was in second place with 3,040,000 viewers compared to O'Reilly in first place with 3,303,000 viewers. This is the first time any cable news show has gotten more than 3 million viewers with the exception of O"Reilly.
This has been a big week for Beck with 2.8 million viewers on Monday, 2.7 million on Tueday and 3.04 million on Wednesday. In addition to these numbers, Beck gets about 400 to 500 thousand more viewers on his repeat show at 2AM east coast/11PM west coast repeat showing. It is clear Beck has now beaten Hannity as the number two show on cable news.
http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/
PEC
LOL that’s probably what happened
Willow, your fired!
David,
depends on what are the facts . . .
-->there have been multiple instances where MAJOR organizations have said she is coming to attend/speak/whatever and later had egg on their faces
- yes that is a fact
-->when she was a no-show.
- if she hadn't confirmed, then who's fault is it that there's egg on the face ?
How about the earth ? Same set of facts,
- one side says David's grandpa is a monkey
- the other side says we are made in God's image
Darn thing about facts, they're all viewed through the lens of our beliefs . . .
David - You can't bail if you never accepted. Read On Sarah's Facebook from 30 July. Bottomline unless Meg says it (and so far Sarah has been at all events Meg said she would) it ain't happening. Just because Willow says yes to get somebody off the phone so she can get back to her phonecon with a friend does not make it official.
This reminds me of the "Death Panel". Read Sarah's statements and they never lie. Start interpreting it how you want and it gets skewed.
P.S. to all,
Sarah is no longer a governor and did not manage to serve even one full term as governor.
It is slurping on your part to continue to give her that 'title.' And hey, remember, she said she didn't need titles anyway, when she quit. Right? :)
Okay, I figure soon as a mod reads this thread all my posts will be kaput anyway, as if I deleted them myself. So, I bid you a fair adieu, a lovely evening, and on request I'll send some "blinder-removing lotion" that will make it easier to see what most others in this country see about Sarah.
Just curious - am I correct in thinking David is a concern troll - even though his veneer is wearing thin?
Rusty -
WOW. That is huge. Can you say Palin Power.
Sheya,
I also don't "want to know where she is"..(well maybe a little bit)...:-)
But it's like she's hiding in the middle of nowhere!
No tabloid??? They all know where she lives. No photos of her at the grocery store or the local gas station or even in her robe getting her mail???
Like I said...seems weird to me.
obama is upside down in the latest Economist poll:
http://tinyurl.com/lvnyzd (terri)
the slide continues but that 50 percent barrier seems like a tough cookie to crack in gallup and rasmussen (it keeps hanging on for dear life).
i say: plunge. baby. plunge.
David...Arriverderci...
oh...one more thing...you might want to use that blinder lotion on your lips...so you don't make a mistake when your kissing BO BO's Butt...
Again it takes an iconoclast like me to have a different take on the events. The story is that Sarah Palin is actually still receiving a boatload of invitations to appear places. I thought that the MSM had declared Sarah Palin dead in the water, yesterday's news, a nine day wonder after her sudden resignation and deeming her a "quitter" to the nth degree: nobody of prominence would want to be associated with her any longer; she would be regarded as the paramount pariah of the universe.
Heavens to Betsy, the MSM may not have gotten it right after all!
Oh, didn't I just see that Sarah Palin just passed Oprah on Facebook.
you guys,
The Willow thing, do you all really think that Sarah gives out her private home phone number/cell number???...I think not.
These people aren't calling "home" so as Piper or Willow will pick up the phone and then forget to give mom "a message".
All appearence requests go through Meg and her "business phone".
It's Meg's end that's at fault. This was something that Sarah was VERY supportive of...eveyone knew that. It's not surprising that Sarah would attend such an event.
But it was all over the internet and if someone as 'puter illiterate as I can see it (and several times even), than I would really hope that someone at Meg's end would also have seen it.
Meg dropped the ball here. She's the one who should have nipped it in the bud.
Techno-
you always think of a different angle on a subject. I thank you for that. :)
True, I thought she was done. Heck, my parents think she's done. But obviously not-
right?
or am I left?
-Jane
Sheya @ 5:30: Great points!
Here's another crack at it from me.
1. As Governor, she couldn't do anything about folks filing Ethics Complaints against her, no matter how frivolous. They were perfectly legal, so that's it. Even with Governors authority and vast state staff (22,000?) under her, nothing she could do except just respond to complaint via lawyer.
2. She also couldn't do anything about MSM and other organizations saying all kinds of bad things about her and her family. Period. (Even now she probably can't do much more as a private citizen.)
3. So, why does anyone think she can do anything about organizations saying relatively nice things about her, like that she will be attending their event? Even more so now that she has a MUCH smaller staff.
Lets' see, in the last two weeks, she could have put on her Facebook, a long list of daily events she had been invited to, but declined to attend. Or she could have done what she did. Research on Health Care and Cap & Tax and use time writing on them.
Now, if she had done the other option, the MSM would have took that and ran with it. Big stories about orgs and events, that were probably relatively friendly to her, that she was publicly "dissing".
HC and C&T opposition would have been lost in the fray.
On the Beck ratings it was: Sarah and Rush that did it as well as the subject matter of the show. It was not exclusively one or the other but all three combined.
Sheya,
Have you never been invited to an event that you really wanted to attend – say a friend’s wedding – but you were not sure due to other unconfirmed commitments? So you tell your friends, you would love to come and hope you’ll be able to make it but you’ll let him know.
What I would do is take steps that this BS stops happening. It's okay for me to portray myself as an unorganized ditz...so what? Let's not talk apples and oranges...
BUT, if I were in Sarah's shoes, I would take steps to make sure this BS stops, period. It wouldn't be hard.
I don't know how many thousands, hundreds, or dozens of invitations she gets on a daily, weekly, or monthly basis, but I would expect that someone on Sarah's staff is tasked with responding to this these invitations, *somenone*, for crying out loud, that tells the inviters yes or no.
And not only for common courtesy reasons. Sarah doesn't need this type of bad PR proliferating among local grass roots organizations. Remember the six degress of freedom rule. The attendees feel that they're getting 'stiffed', gets pissed, tell their friends and this snowballs, and creates bad PR for Sarah at the *local* level. Multiply this effect by hundreds and thousands and it's very bad.
I simply can't rationalize this in Sarah's favor this time. Not after that Republican Women event communication mishap brouhaha.
The groups can't be trusted...they have their own agendas...even if they are supporters...so preemptive steps should be taken to prevent this BS from happening.
In your dreams JeanA.
Coda,
It doesn't really matter what brought the viewers. What's most important is that over 3 million people saw the show and were informed of what is going on in the whitehouse.
BTW...Wipeout and a L&O repeat beat out the Kennedy tribute...:-)
OMG! It was suppose to be a secret.
This just in......
Big Beck: Goes over 3 million viewers, beats O’Reilly in demo: Cable News Ratings for Wednesday, August 26, 2009
I believe it was because Sarah posted this on her FB Notes.
An InvitationShare
Yesterday at 11:34am
FOX News' Glenn Beck is doing an extraordinary job this week walking America behind the scenes of 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue and outlining who is actually running the White House.
Monday night he asked us to invite one friend to watch; tonight I invite all my friends to watch.
-Sarah Palin
She invited us and all 3 million watched. Sarah sure knows how to get the word out, with just a few keystrokes on her LOTUS.
Sarah is the BEST!
OK..
I wasn't going to say anthing but as some may have seen on the open thread today I am anonymous #69, Beehive is #68.
I cannot reveal Beehive's assignment as it is very top secret. But my assignment was to be an anonymous Palin staff member that has been in contact with Minnery for weeks now.
There, cat's out of the bag.
How about the Organizations taking some responsibility...
"All event requests must be confirmed with Megan Stapleton of SarahPac".
If these Organizations had this Confirmation... don't you think they would say so???
Please...if I was in charge and I didn't have this confirmed by Meg...I know it's a... NO GO.....!!!
Everybody brought in the numbers. The blogs by posting the invitation and others by word of mouth. I told everybody at work to watch the show that night. I listened to Rush that day and I don’t remember Rush telling his viewers that he was going to be on the Beck show. I could be wrong.
EdFab,
I am with you and before Palin's resignation speech, I was exasperated with Meg Stapleton. I perceived that she was not decisive enough in handling the invitation aspect of Sarah's enterprise and I wanted Sarah's attorney to take control of all of it. However, Palin clearly has confidence in Stapleton and so I will not condemn Stapleton for this latest episode. But I agree that there has to be a decisive way to communicate to these groups about Sarah's intentions. Because this is becoming a meme on Palin failing to keep her commitments.
Mia, the problem is that the organizations can't be trusted. The Republican Women's group proved that. All the heads of these organizations have their own agenda: sell as many tickets as possible. And it's obvious that they'll play their invitation to Sarah to the hilt...right up to show time. These people are worms.
Jim Minnery hates Palin and is full of crap. In the CNN article, they say that "it seems like Jim set her up to make her look bad, and he's done this a few times." Jim is known for this anti-Christian propoganda against Palin, all in the name of "values".
Notice Jim Minnery refused to comment on the CNN article, after the facts were revealed. Maybe because he's been called out on his BS.
Jim is probably in the Huckabee or Romney camp or something and I will work hard to EXPOSE Jim for who he is, if he tries to ruin Palin. And who is Jim Minnery? A fraud. A phony. A Palin-hater who has tried to twist things to make her look bad in the past (Morgan Christen, now this).
What would Jesus do, Jim? Certainly not LIE in order to put the governor in a negative light. Doesn't sound very Christian to me.
Face it: Palin is going to get the lion's share of the evangelical vote, and nothing Jim Minnery or any other so-called "Christian" organization does (like spreading un-Christian lies) is going to make REAL Christians turn their back on her and endorse another rival in 2012.
Lipstick
I still can't believe you got that cushy assignment of being the anonymous source on the Minnery thing.
Geez.
I can't reveal my assignment yet.
In due time.
Hey since you used your anonymous #69, do you get to go again with the same number or do you have to get a new number? ;)
With the "Republican Leaderships Conference's" front page of palin, I SINCERELY hope that Meg Stapelton has sent a email stating that Palin should not be considered an attendee, or even considering attending, IF or UNTIL written confirmation is received.
Meg needs to be more proactive on Sarah' behalf to nip these potential issues in the bud. It's just a simple, polite, clear email that is needed, for the record.
This should be standard Operating Procedure now for Meg.
And really, I shouldn't be saying this, but keep it on the DL...
I got hired! As anonymous #88! Yours truly is set to work on an assignment, but shhhh, keep it on the DL Beehive and Lipstick.
-Jane
The fact that they won't give the names of their contacts is fishy to me; also, I don't understand why anyone would blame this on Meg. She is working for Sarah, who I am assuming, gives the orders and tells Meg when to speak and not speak on a topic.
If Sarah is NOT in Alaska, where is she?
In the lower 48?
Hmmmmm.
Oh, and Minnery doesn't like Sarah. He was just trying to use her for fundraising.
Can I be anonymous #89?
Please, please, pretty please.
Steven, I'd start with something simple, see if that works, and go from there. For example:
1. Come to the realization that this BS has to stop.
2. Get a pocket organizer with a calendar function.
3. When a request comes in, check the calendar...if there is a conflict, immediately turn down the invitation. If there is no conflict, nail Sarah down to a yes or no, and then either confirm the invite or turn it down, as appropriate. (And if necessary, appoint someone to do this task as his/her main job, with as many helpers as he/she needs.)
David,
Sarah is no longer a governor and did not manage to serve even one full term as governor.
It is slurping on your part to continue to give her that 'title.'
David, you go first. Whenever anyone mentions President Kennedy you inform them that he is not currently a President, that he never completed a full term and that they are slurping by continuing to refer to him as President Kennedy. Once you change protocol on the issue of titles then get back to us.
OK anonymous tell us where is Sarah?
CA
TX
DE- yes, yes
AL
PA
NJ
NY
VA
MA
FL
OH
" Puma for Life said...
The fact that they won't give the names of their contacts is fishy to me; also, I don't understand why anyone would blame this on Meg. She is working for Sarah, who I am assuming, gives the orders and tells Meg when to speak and not speak on a topic."
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No one is to blame, but the point is there are lessons to be learnt. How quickly lessons are learnt is a sign of professionalism.
Sarah's staff NEED to be more proactive in the future whenever Sarah is billed as an invitee etc - a simple email sent to the organization, as proof that until it is confirmed in writing it is NOT confirmed, is all that is required.
It has become essential now, even if events are as far away as in 2010.
I'll wait for Meg to announce it.
If I really care, I'll ask the organization to produce a written confirmation, a letter, an email, or even a voice mail that confirms the attendance. Until that happens, it's just the org using Palin to hype their agenda.
JeanA-
You have been accepted as #89. Your assignment is waiting in the news tomorrow. Remember, Beehive and Lipstick have first dibs on the news that have the word "anonymous" in them ok? After that, it's fair game.
-Jane
ps- Gov.Palin's in Paris, Texas. This should make Lipstick happy...
Oh boy, Oh boy,
Can I be Anonymous #6?
Then I can reply to those who ask, Who is #1?
O/T but well...
New posts at my blog: Solo and Fly on the Wall?
Check them out! Click on my profile.
-Jane
paperson-
Sorry, that position has been taken. However, you can be #90, because that spot is open.
Because Beehive and Lipstick are on their top-secret assignments, I am in charge for the moment. You will be notified if you pass the screening process.
-Jane
@Jane A, I await your order.
Sorry if my post sounds harsh, but I hate it when people use the name of "religion" and "family values" in order to bash someone who OBVIOUSLY loves God and has strong family values themselves. It makes that "Christian" organizaiton look really, really bad and very un-Christ like.
Someone is playing politics.
@paperson
I think Sarah herself should be #1. :)
So, I see no one replied to my comments at 6:12. Not surprised, as I say from time to time, "I'm just too logical and simple minded". Everyone read my comments and agreed it was too simple minded.
Well, I've decided this will be my last comment on this particular subject, of the few I have entered in recent weeks.
It would seem that nobody has an answer to my #3 at 6:12. You have to give me a real good and detailed answer or explain why question is wrong! Pretend you're telling me how to do something on my computer. Step by step!
But I did have a thought that I don't think anyone has mentioned. When you send an invitation to a sitting Gov. and the reply is "no", you understand. Then she resigns and you think, "Hey, no problem now. All she is doing is sitting on the back porch, sipping Diet Dr. Pepper and watching ducks swim on Lake Lucille." That's why this is the 2nd time in 3 weeks this has happened. Only happened once or twice the whole year before August.
When you come up with an answer to my #3, then come up with a solution to that one too! (I'm sort of like Nancy, I just put out the question. I don't have the answer!)
Also consider that out of several thousand requests, there have only been 3-4 "mixups". So, looks like 99.9% of the organizations had no communication problem! Hmmm!
BTW: If you reply and I don't answer, I haven't gone away mad. I have to go work a few hours!
paperson-
You have been accepted. Please wait for your assignment. It will come as soon as someone says "Palin" "Meg" and "anonymous" in one sentence. Remember, Beehive and Lipstick have first dibs, as they are #68 and #69 respectfully. After that, it's anyone's game.
And just between you and me, Gov. Palin is #1.
-Jane
I just hate it when pompus punks start throwing out names to make themselves look good.
Groups have been using Sarah's name to RIP OFF CONSUMERS! I've seen several conservative conferences giving FALSE IMPRESSIONS that Sarah will be attending (yet have the "fine print" stating it's just an invitation and not a confirmation).
The biggest culprit, other than the Simi Valley whiners and the Alaskan event is the Southern Republican Leadership Conference which has Palin plastered on the front (with a slew of other bigwig names). If you observe carefully, there is an "*" by her name and a statment on the bottom saying that she's only INVITED and not CONFIRMED to attend. When people plunk down their money, and find out she's not going to attend, then Sarah gets blamed while the event organizers skate.
It reminds me when I was a child in Milwaukee and of a big sports camp (baseball) that everyone was buzzing about. One of the supposed instructors to attend was Hank Aaron (listed on the fliers with his picture). My dad plunked down the $150 fee and I was pumped up for this event.
The big weekend arrived and there was NO Hank Aaron. In his place was a batting coach from a nearby Division 3 college....people were pissed. The excuse was that Aaron had to pull out due to a "family emergency". We later found out that this was a bold-faced lie. The head organizer claimed that he was best buds with Aaron's agent and had an "understanding". Aaron was "invited", the fliers were made, money collected and things were set into motion.
Mr. Aaron never gave official notice that he was attending and he was quite POed that others were profitting off of his name. He was also POed that the initial press made him out to be the villian. Meanwhile the person who ran the event quitely pocketed the money the left town.
TSM Admin-
To be honest, I'm not sure how to answer #3. All I can say is that she could've posted the invites and have MSM diss her, or she could have done awesome arguements on healthcare, etc. If she had posted the invites, the probably friendly orgs could have thought her to be snobby, and thereby ruining her standing with orgs a little bit.
Am I missing the point?
-Jane
Just used Obama quote generator! :)
"I think it's time we had a national conversation about anonymous. We need to get past all the liberals and recognize that we are our own best hope for overcoming trolls. We need conservatives, not liberals. Conservatives are our Sarah Palin. And we need to have change in anonymous."
"These people haven't had Sarah Palin for fifty years. So you can't be surprised if they get bitter and cling to their liberals and their liberals and their trolls. That's what my campaign is about. Teaching all the little people in this country that they can have conservatives."
"You know, there's a lot of talk in this country about anonymous. Well I think Americans are tired of the same old liberals. Ordinary Americans believe in conservatives, they want less liberals, they just aren't sure if their leaders believe in Sarah Palin."
LOL x 100000!
-Jane
Megan Stapleton needs a website where she can post confirmed speaking events for the Governor. and where the GOvernor will be on specific dates.
These deceptive invitations are happening too often now.
I learned my lesson with CPAC,and others have with the behavior of NRSC, the RWF and even the NRA, when she doesn't show, it's almost
as if the event didn't happen. She is following exactly the path she outlined on July 3rd, 'harpooning' cap and trade, giving the death panels, a fatal blow, even forcing
an admission from Dean, on the unlikelyness of tort reform.
"TSM Admin said...
So, I see no one replied to my comments at 6:12. Not surprised, as I say from time to time, "I'm just too logical and simple minded". Everyone read my comments and agreed it was too simple minded.
3. So, why does anyone think she can do anything about organizations saying relatively nice things about her, like that she will be attending their event? Even more so now that she has a MUCH smaller staff."
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Well, Sarah and her staff can do something. Far more.
They need to send pro forma emails to organizations that are advertising Sarah as an attendee, stating what i said before - takes a few minutes, like the 2010 billing.
She wouldn't be getting 100s of invites per week. But even if she was, then they need to add staff. How much does it cost to hire someone to respond to these things that way! Gee, even Piper could do that after school, sending a pro forma email response.
Probably Meg should have responded to this one by also stating "Gov. Palin's's fans know that unless it is confirmed by either Gov. Palin or myself that these events have not been not agreed to whatever organizers may state." Meg should continually say that to get that into their thick heads for the future - and indeed that is what everyone here is saying (ie, will not believe it until Meg confirms).
I do think this is completely trivial. But it won't be if it continues like this for a few months. And it will I think, unless something changes.
Like it or not, fair or not, these "misunderstandings" will over time lead to an perception problem. I'm just surprised that Meg hasn't already worked this out from the last experience.
I have to admit as a huge Sarah fan this stuff bugs me. It's been said here already but why give anybody further ammo?
Come on Meg Stapleton, get this kind of stuff under control. Take an hour or two and come up with a foolproof way to make it clear who is at fault (overeager event planners)and please try and not let it happen again.
If I'm missing something and being hard on Meg I apologize.
Palin 2012
sjk,
Back to the belly of the beast whence you came.
We're not the least interested in your b.s.
sjk
IT'S NEVER THE ORGANIZER'S FAULT
IT'S NEVER THE ORGANIZER'S FAULT
IT'S NEVER THE ORGANIZER'S FAULT
IT'S NEVER THE ORGANIZER'S FAULT
IT'S NEVER THE ORGANIZER'S FAULT
ORGANIZER'S NEVER TAKE ADVANTAGE OF SARAH'S NAME FOR POPULARITY OR PROFIT
ORGANIZER'S NEVER TAKE ADVANTAGE OF SARAH'S NAME FOR POPULARITY OR PROFIT
ORGANIZER'S NEVER TAKE ADVANTAGE OF SARAH'S NAME FOR POPULARITY OR PROFIT
ORGANIZER'S NEVER TAKE ADVANTAGE OF SARAH'S NAME FOR POPULARITY OR PROFIT
ORGANIZER'S NEVER TAKE ADVANTAGE OF SARAH'S NAME FOR POPULARITY OR PROFIT
EVENT ORGANIZERS NEVER LIE
EVENT ORGANIZERS NEVER LIE
EVENT ORGANIZERS NEVER LIE
EVENT ORGANIZERS NEVER LIE
EVENT ORGANIZERS NEVER LIE
Excuse me...gotta cough up some flem (cough-cough..BS...cough-cough BS).
This is a failure on Sarah's part. Look, it's as simple as this - Meg Stapleton knew about this event before today's announcement, so if Meg knew that Sarah wasn't going to attend then she should have, long ago, issued a press release to that effect.
Meg could have put up a note on Sarah's Facebook account stating that Sarah was not speaking at the event.
This is happening too often and Meg is always late on the uptake with her clarifications coming just short of the actual event. She's letting these rumors fester and grow and then lances them at the last moment.
Someone in Sarah's organization is asleep at the switch and then goes all frantic as the alarm sounds just before the event. This reflects very poorly on Sarah's competence in assembling a professional staff.
What staff does Sarah have?
Is Meg full time?
Who else?
How many do they get per hour:
emails
phone calls
letters
How many per staff hour?
Unless we know these things, how can we criticize?
What if Meg works part time and gets 165 phone calls, 689 emails, and 143 letters per working hour?
What should she do?
Staff? Who pays staff? What do they do?
Sarah is a regular person. Like you. How many things can you and your staff handle?
Personally, 6 calls, emails, and letters per minutes are too much for me.
I am a fan of Meg. I think she is overwhelmed. That is not her fault.
I cut them all some slack.
sjk from the belly of the plane said...
Anyone with 2 connected brain cells
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Don't be envious sjk, just make do with the one brain cell you have. Acceptance is happiness.
the guv cant attend because she's still nursing the knife wound in her back from Saxby!
Spoken like a true 0 brain cell voter.
A:
Sarah is by far the highest profile political figure in the US after Obama, and is the target of all sorts of attacks.
Sarah needs the absolute best. It is as simple as that. No excuses, please, excuses lead to future failures.
militantfeather said...
A:
Sarah is by far the highest profile political figure in the US after Obama, and is the target of all sorts of attacks.
Sarah needs the absolute best. It is as simple as that. No excuses, please, excuses lead to future failures.
August 27, 2009 9:41 PM
Nuts.
Reality.
Are you paying for her staff?
Send her a certified check for $25,000,000.
Then you will have some credibility.
sjk
Hey Punk!
How's your Mom?
Try rubbing together the 1 brain cell from flowerpowertroll and the 1 brain cell from quizzshowtroll, put what you come up with in your favorite capital letters style and then you might have something for us to care about.
" Alexonian said...
This is a failure on Sarah's part. Look, it's as simple as this - Meg Stapleton knew about this event before today's announcement, so if Meg knew that Sarah wasn't going to attend then she should have, long ago, issued a press release to that effect."
Well, maybe.
But Sarah needs to remain flexible, for many reasons.
I'd prefer if Meg just contacted the orgs in writing (standardly worded simple email), stating that until they have written confirmation, it should not be implied she has agreed she will in fact be attending nor of course IS IT CONFIRMED.
In writing - as proof.
I don't for a moment believe this one was Meg's or Sarah's fault AT ALL, nor do I think this is important at all in itself, but like it or not, this is the environment they are in and will continue to be in.
To Alexonian:
I couldn't agree more. If Meg would issue a press release confirming Sarah's absence regarding various events it would be something to point to later when the Huffington post et al rips Sarah over it.
A said...
militantfeather said...
A:
Sarah is by far the highest profile political figure in the US after Obama, and is the target of all sorts of attacks.
Sarah needs the absolute best. It is as simple as that. No excuses, please, excuses lead to future failures.
August 27, 2009 9:41 PM
Nuts.
Reality.
Are you paying for her staff?
Send her a certified check for $25,000,000.
Then you will have some credibility.
August 27, 2009 9:44 PM
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If you think this is a $25 mill problem, Sarah will need several billion $'s before the year is out. I don't have that much.
In fact, all Meg has to do is log in here at C4P for one minute a day, to see if there are any stories of invitations making the rounds, and send an email or something. She doesn't even need to talk to sarah about it - they just need to agree in advance how to handle them.
I've worked in the Christian nonprofit world for years. I'm all too familiar with the practice of advertising invited speakers as if they were confirmed speakers (unless you look at the asterisk or the fine print). It hasn't started with Sarah and it likely won't end with her. Which is a pity. For obvious reasons, I don't think it's a good practice.
It may well be that Sarah and her staff need to be more definite in their refusals. But if the religious and political organizations would make a strict policy about not using a guest's name until the person confirmed, they wouldn't be as likely to get themselves into these situations.
militantfeather said...
I don't have that much.
No excuses!
I'm afraid I have to agree with Alexonian on this.
Someone of Sarah Palin's political stature needs to have their schedule, generally mapped out about 2 to 3 months in advance. Big events, like Southern Republican Leadership Conference, need to be penciled in six months out so they can be built around.
Sarah should have confirmed, publicly, SRLC, by now. Anyone, and I do mean anyone who is serious about leading the Republican Party will be at that event. If she doesn't show, or if the kind of nonsense happens with that even that happened with the Reagan Library affair, you can write her off. Period. The rest of the Party will. So will most of the conservative movement.
Serious leaders don't blow off the SRLC. Even if they are Sarah Palin.
The little niceties aren't being observed to base groups like Minnery and his crowd. He isn't the freaking enemy, for Christ's sake! He's someone to be wooed and won over. Meg isn't getting this done. Or, she is doing this but she is being overwhelmed by lack of staff assistance.
That is what I think is going on, and this gets back to bad staff choices on Sarah's part. She may believe that Meg is a good chief of staff. What happened with Reagan and this event tells me otherwise. Meg is a great, loyal, and tough fighter and a fantastic spokesperson. The continued scheduling imbroglios tell me that she is not chief of staff material.
She's no James A. Baker III. That's what Sarah needs. Desperately.
Sarah Palin has become, suddenly, the second most desired speaker in the country after the President. And her scheduling and staffwork is beign done by Meg. Meg's good. Meg's great, actually. But Meg needs someone to knock heads, tell people "No" privately without referring them to a damn Facebook Post from several months back, and get the candidate to the right place and the right dadgum time.
You don't tell people who want to support you to refer to a Facebook post and check with your lawyer before you publicly confirm an event! That's being rude to people who want to get on your bandwagon. You hire the staff to help Meg out to make sure that everyone who contacts you and your people are treated like kings and queens. You may not be able to get your candidate to their event, but you don't send them away angry with a Facebook printout and Tom Van Flein's phone number.
That's called good constituent service. It's also called good customer service, and it's good politics.
As I wrote earlier, the little things matter to Republicans. It tells them how well you can run a Presidency if you can run a campaign operation. Sarah is a big picture person. I get that. Like Reagan. But she needs Mr. Nuts and Bolts to make sure that she is on message, on time, and on target.
Right now, Sarah could be building the nucleus of this kind of staff that I speak of, totally unbeknownst to any of us. She desperately needs to, because at bottom, the problem remains her judgement in her hires. The big money people, the same people who gave to Bush and Romney and are now disappointed, are casting around for someone else.
If she's taking this time now, when she needs to, to build the team she needs, then more power to her. If she hasn't yet, she needs to start.
The high rollers won't spend two nickels on someone who can't manage their time properly. That's just the painful truth.
Sorry folks, this needs to be said.
looks like minnery won't tell who he contacted (which is weird):
http://community.adn.com/adn/node/143203
Palin claims she never agreed to attend anti-abortion event
http://www.ktuu.com/Global/story.asp?S=11005759
ANCHORAGE, Alaska -- For weeks the Alaska Family Council billed former Gov. Sarah Palin as one of the headliners for an event Thursday night meant to kick-off the signature gathering process to put a parental consent initiative on the ballot.
But Palin's spokesperson says she won't attend -- and never committed to do so.
For some it sounds like deja-vu. There have been several instances of confusion over Palin invitations, including an event at the Reagan Library in California and a big Republican fundraiser in Washington, D.C.
The Alaska Family Council has been promoting Palin's appearance with Star Davis on its Web site. Davis is a nationally known anti-abortion advocate who appeared on the Dan Fagan radio show Thursday afternoon to talk about why she supports an initiative requiring parental consent before a minor can have an abortion.
Davis says she's glad the AFC moved ahead without Palin, but wishes she would appear.
"I am disappointed because I believe this is an issue that fits very well with her and I know she has a deep passion for this issue as well," Davis said.
Palin backed a similar measure during the legislative session but saw it fizzle out. She said she would be the first person to sign an initiative to place the issue before voters.
"The governor is fully supportive of the initiative and firmly believes that without parental consent, government stands between parents and their children," Palin spokesperson Meghan Stapleton wrote in an e-mail.
Stapleton said Palin had notified the group she would be out of town.
Palin is under the microscope nationally and those who follow her say this latest incident will hurt her future political aspirations.
"There just seems to be an overwhelming amount of invitations," said author Shushanna Walshe, who is writing "Sarah from Alaska: The Sudden Rise and Brutal Education of a New Conservative Superstar."
"Her staff has said she gets thousands of invitations, and there seems to be cracks in the system and these communications problems are just proving to be embarrassing for the governor and the SarahPAC organization," Walshe said.
The Alaska Family Council issued a statement Thursday afternoon saying Palin's staff had twice confirmed her appearance at Thursday's event.
stop the presses: private citizen skips event and makes trip to lower 48.
Baboon,
The Alaska media is hilarious. This story was the headline story in the ADN, hahahaa.
It's pretty obvious that the ADN misses not having their stories get national attention.
So what's Parnell up to?
What's the news on Vaughn Ward? Palin's pop is in Boise tonight and tomorrow.
Excellent post section9.
I agree wholeheartedly, except for one thing. This current incident isn't important. What is important is that Sarah gets a wake up call before it does become a major problem. Whether its Meg, a shortage of resources or other things, who knows, but she needs to work it out, whether she is running or not.
I agree completely about her attending the SRLC, and that she should accept sooner rather then later. How hard is it to schedule something in advance?
CPAC etc were somewhat different - she was the Gov, and had some issues about being able to attend, although she probably should have made a decision on that earlier as well.
I hope Sarah or Meg is reading.
This is what Rove was talking about, Gov. Palin no longer has the governor's office stopping her from attending.
If she doesn't say "Yes" they will try and make you say "Yes" or...
I wonder if Gov. Palin is with the two dads?
Where was that?
Section 9,
You know that I am with you on this and was very upset the last time with Meg Stapleton and wanted her to be relieved of this duty to Palin. However, since at the governor turnover speech, Palin expressed such great confidence in Meg, I have to pause in outright calling for her to step aside. Nonetheless something has to happen where these events are attended by Palin or outright are declined by Palin. Period. Simple as that. There maybe some maliciousness by those event organizers, but this is the 4th time this has happened. Are all these event people malicious? CPAC, NRSC, Reagan Library, and now this group? Hard for me to believe, something needs to be done.
You are a voice of reason section9. The thing is, many have the opinion that Palin's ship has sailed already and she cannot "unring the bell" of so many problems with staff, miscommunications and missed opportunities to build support. Whether that is true or not remains to be seen of course.
Now that's just an opinion expressed in a comments forum, so I ask you regular commenters to refrain from insulting me, throwing me "out" and etc. However, RM is always free to make fun of my pic.
Hey Helen....BOO!
I am reading the comments and concerns. We are all assuming that Sarah is running for president.
Maybe Sarah has no intention of running maybe she has no plans even to make speeches. Sarah is a simple person like us, that’s why we love her.
Maybe her plans are simply to finish her book on which she cashes in around $7 Million which sets her and her family up for life. Sure she might have a plan to do something but maybe she really isn’t to concerned what the MSM and people think. Maybe she’s just fed up of being used, abused and dumped that she has decided to remain a private citizen but use her power to effect change through Facebook notes.
Just a thought
section9, what is the SRLC? I thought this latest mess was with the Alaska Family Council. Is there another one on the horizon?
Anyway, good analysis. You've got more patience than me, to take the time and coherently state the issue...I just want to throw things.
Maybe Sarah's not planning on running in 2012.
I agree with section9.
Quality staff and organization are essential in any ambitious national campaign.
During the Presidency of Ronald Reagan three of his most senior White House advisers were known as "The Troika":
1. White House Chief of Staff, James Baker III,;
2. Counselor to the President, Ed Meese, and
3. Deputy White House Chief of Staff, Michael Deaver.
But, then again, maybe at this time, she has no desire to seek higher elective office.
From her perspective, other personal priorities may be paramount to the wishes of others, including the Republican Party power brokers.
ha ha Mia :D You made me jump cause I was a little nervous anyway you know.
Some of you assign Sarah and Meg the task of reading your posts here.
They probably have nothing else to do.
So your instructions to them are helpful.
At least you didn't complain that they were not doing other things, like answering inquiries.
Or did you.
You have had time. Answer the questions.
How many emails, calls, and letters do they get per staff hour?
If you don't know, you don't have a basis for your statements.
Fortunately, they have better things to do than read this thread.
Helen,
No scientology diatribe?
Hey Helen...How have you been... since you scared me that first night??
I think it is pretty funny that adn has this as their top news article. Don't they have anything else to report. Wonder why they are going down the drain.
Well, I'm still looking for a list of "friendly" nicknames y'all call us to put with my other lists...::holds up hands while sticks and stones get tossed:: To be "fair and balanced" about it, ya know.
Section9
You make good points but you write based on the assumption that Sarah doesn’t offer clear responses to invitations. We have no idea what goes on maybe they do make it clear that Sarah won’t attend and these people just keep pushing and pushing until Sarah and crew just get fed up and just ignore them.
I believe that Meg’s Facebook statement was made for that reason. People didn’t take no for an answer that’s why they felt the need to bring in the attorney where no means no.
Of course these stories don’t help her but what needs to be pointed out is that none of those organizations have come out and blamed Sarah directly all they say there was an understanding she’ll show up no one has said they had an actual confirmation.
Another thing, these things happen often that event planners expect people to show up who at the last minute can’t make it, we don’t here about it because it’s not news, with Sarah its news.
I am sure that there were many occasions where Romney, Huckabbe or Newt were expected and couldn’t show but no one cares about that.
I think we are over playing this and whether she runs for president or not I don’t think this makes a difference.
hmmmm.....You couldn't use Toki's list?
Can someone check what Sarah’s record of appearing at events she had committed to prior to being nominated for VP
I am sure she has a 100% track record, but having the information would help clearing up that she is unorganized and unreliable and could help verify that people are using her fame to cash in.
Sheya - I have information on exactly what you have asked. If you want it I will put it here in comments. But I don't want to make you guys mad at me. Apparently there is evidence of broken engagements as Governor.
and Mia, I'd be happy to use anything you recommend...where is Toki's list?
ha ha my word verification for this post is
"mudinhed"
Helen
It’s OK to state your opinion and voice your concerns that’s what we are here for.
Sarah’s ship has not sailed. People seem to overlook that until 1 year ago she was a relatively unknown governor who was doing great.
In the period of just over a year:
She gave birth to a Down Syndrome Baby.
Her teenage daughter had a baby.
Her eldest son went off to a war zone.
She was thrown into the national spotlight.
She was taken apart by the MSM.
She was abused by frivolous ethic complaints.
She had to give him the best job she had.
She had to defend stupid rumours.
Now, this is a lot for a person to take in one year, even a strong person like Sarah Palin. She is after all human and has feelings too (lets never forget that)
So, now when it’s the first time since all that begun that she can sit down be under the radar. It’s been only 5 weeks since she left office. So what that things are not 100% organised. Of course we would like everything to work like clockwork but frankly at this point I don’t think Sarah gives a damn.
Time will go by she’ll have all her things in order, she’ll decide what she wants to do and if she chooses to run for president she’ll build herself up a perfect team and there won’t be a single person whom she’ll call who will say no to her.
For now, I am letting Sarah be Sarah the human being and not Sarah the potential president. I am going to defend her as a person not a politician. And up until the day she tells me she’s going forward with a presidential campaign I couldn’t care whether she screws up her schedule or not.
Soooo...Does eefffing Loon qualify?
I agree that one thing Palin has is time ahead to do what she cares to do. And we all know that the political landscape can seem to turn on a dime. Like they say on PR, "One day you're in, the next day you're out." In her case maybe she can turn it around.
Here's the info - take it as that, I haven't looked at the original post and its Andrew Halcro which many of you I'm sure don't like. but anyway this info is out there so you could take a look at it.
Mia - well, efffing loon is sorta generic...I KNOW you guys are creative...of course you call us Anklebiters, and Celtic Diva was DivaTheHud, but honestly I don't know any others...there has to be some... And the post talks about What we call you guys, like Palinistas, Palinbots etc...and What you guys call Palin...Killa From Wasilla and stuff like that. It isn't meant to be real mean. Just a peek inside for outsiders.
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Okay here's the Palin missed appts post I saw someone put up today, that's how I knew about it. Sorry this is all so long...
Here is an excerpt of an article that Andrew Halcro wrote on his blog back on 01/12/09. Title: "A Day In The Life:
Later that morning, the phone rings in a staff members office and its a commissioner saying he's having a hard time getting in to see the governor. The employee calls up the governor's schedule and sees nothing but blank spaces.
However, the employee has grown quite accustomed to seeing a blank daily schedule for this governor. The employee has also seen where the schedule has been modified with meetings the governor did not actually attend.
In the first eighteen months of the governor's term, the governor has held less than six full cabinet meetings.
Her failure to meet with community leaders, commissioners, lawmakers or even return phone calls has become legendary.
It's definitely worth the re-read. Here's the link: http://www.andrewhalcro.com/a_day_in_the_life
Note, after this article was posted Palin's scheduler resigned her position. I've also read(can't remember where) that Palin was notorious for waiting to the day of to decide what she is going to do that day.
Sheya, sorry I just now saw your email.
Helen
This article has already been discussed in length here i think. But my first reaction was 01/12/09 is not the best day to pick as a Palin day in life. It was soon after the election the media was still going after her she was being attacked form all sides and anyone would be frustrated.
The funny thing is that none of the other stuff he writes were mentioned until recently. Prior to being chosen as VP her approval rating was in the high 80’s. The legislators from both sides of the aisle loved and praised her. Her staff had only good things to say about her.
After she was chosen many of her allies betrayed her and made up stuff to get 15 minutes of fame.
If everything he writes is true. How is it that Sarah Palin delivered on all her campaign promises and achieved in two years more than any other governor does in 8 years?
OK...here's my take on all of this...Who the F cares??? I mean, really? The woman is a private citizen. She can do as she damn well pleases. It's the media & and everyone else that makes a big deal about it.
I get invited to places and events, and I just tell people that I don't know if I'll be there. I don't plan that far ahead. Sometimes I may decide to do something & at the last minute decide I don't want to do that, and just do something else or nothing at all.
For goodness sakes...quit second guessing everything she says, does, or doesn't do. I, nor anyone else, has any idea what she plans in her future. Maybe she hasn't planned anything at all. Maybe she's just taking a day at a time, and she has every right to do that.
If she never runs for public office, again, or never posts another FB post from this day forward, she has that right. I'll still love her and wish her & her family well, and thank her for all that she has done for all of us and our country.
God Bless Sarah & her family. That's really all that matters to me!
Stephanie
THANK YOU! That’s what I’ve been saying all day. Finally someone agrees with me.
Thanks, Sheya
It took me a long time to read all the posts & comments since I haven't been online since yesterday. I just get so aggravated with some of the comments. Sarah doesn't BELONG to us. Frankly, if I was her, after all she's had to put up with, I'd probably be hiding somewhere for a few years! She's the toughest, strongest person I know of. I just support her in whatever she does. I don't feel a need to analyze her.
OK...here's my take on all of this...Who the F cares??? I mean, really? The woman is a private citizen. She can do as she damn well pleases. It's the media & and everyone else that makes a big deal about it.
Who cares? Certainly not you, but it seems that I, and section9, and others, do care. We care because these stories help create a reputation, and from my perspective, the reputation of Sarah is being sullied. What I see is either inattention to detail, procrastination, vague communication standards, crossed wires at the managerial level, in other words, not one single positive spin.
If she is to forever remain a private citizen and never needs to lead a group of people, then her reputation can take on whatever form that develops from the above stated causes. If however she is inclined to follow a path which requires her leading people, then her reputation matters quite a bit.
Sarah has earned my respect because of the competence she displayed in governance, her fealty to conservative principles, her dynamism as a leader, and her execution of good government practices. My respect is being eroded when I witness mismanagement of simple tasks. It really is not a complex endeavor to have Meg squash these rumors before they take on greater momentum. Look, Meg has to come out and set the record straight anyway, so why do it only days before an event rather than when the rumor starts circulating? Nipping something in the bud speaks to more efficient management than putting out a forest fire. The first course of action makes you look like you're on your game, the latter course of action makes it look like one hand doesn't know what the other is doing. This is an unforced error.
@Alexonia
and @many others
Quit carping and do something usefull your own self.
Yes you.
Do something useful.
Do, don't say.
Do something.
Joseph,
....Um....I think you need to tell Ivy Frye to stop passing you bad information.
I live in Anchorage. I know the people that are being talked about. This is a load of crap.
This is no faux outrage....this Palinista is pissed off. Alaska is a very small pond. I know for a fact that Minnery can be reached very easily, and I also know that he is no opportunist. Someone made a mistake in their communication, and it may have been Sarah. She needs to stop offering to do things she ultimately will not do.
here's a comical explanation of what happened (its olby but still funny):
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036677/vp/32589915#32589915
oh and the video also has the never ending sanford saga in it.
I agree with Section9 - if she was running for President. What Section9 said is EXACTLY what my Reaganite friend says . . .
I also agree with RAM . . .
I once saw Meg on an interview, and she struck me as a kick-a**, good-looking conservative woman in the mold of Sarah, Megyn Kelly, etc. I was very impressed, confident, articulate, etc.
so, let me throw another angle into this:
- does this behavior "fit" with what you KNOW about Sarah ? Meg ?
To me, it does not fit. I just don't think that Meg can't see what we see.
I don't think Sarah is such a ditz as to let this happen again and again.
When Sarah does something that YOU don't understand, and then you find out, are you surprised ? encouraged ? deflated ?
Is it better to announce she is running for President RIGHT NOW and start assembling a team to take over Washington,
or
keep everyone on their toes ?
Then again, Meg and Sarah might be complete ditzes (sp).
but I doubt it.
re: ^
but I do remain perplexed and fall on the side of "this can be prevented"
but I will support SP no matter what.
Even if she published her book and said "C 'ya, I'm headin' back to Alaska" and was out of politics the rest of her born days,
- my life has been forever changed for the better because of her (my testimony is being written, it won't bowl you over but I think a microcosm of what Sarah has done to MILLIONS and the the nation as a whole
but I doubt she'll be sayin "C 'ya"
what you understand you like / love / adore:
"hey all, follow Glenn Beck expose the men behind the curtain"
what you don't understand you don't like (a lot)
so, therefore, don't base your entire view of Sarah on something you don't understand. Base it on what you DO understand.
But, yes, it hurts her reputation.
Irrevocably ? I don't think so.
Have you guys thought maybe this is being done on purpose?
Remember Rove said she would be flooded by things and she wouldn't find the time for them. Well, a couple of these things and people get the idea she won't be doing anything for a while. They won't pester her. She wants to keep herself elusive. When time comes she'll hire a more professional team and everything work like clockwork.
wisetrog,
good point, I was on that same vein above.
wisetrog,
if it was calculated, they could actually be twirling the nation on their little pinky ...
hmmmm.
then again, both Sarah and Meg could be complete ditzes (sp).
- but probably not . . .
:-)
@A,
I agree completely with your take on this issue.
As JR once put it, everyone has become the best possible 'advisor' to Sarah these days.
Wow!!!
First of all, Helen, you have no credibility with us, because you have shown with your blog name, allegations of corruption, citing
Andrew Halcro, Scientologist crap, you don't have her best interests
at heart. Now Jim Minnery, has proven he has not been predisposed to her in the past, but the cause
is close to her heart, so I don't think it was a deliberate snub. The others I could see, the NRSC, she made up with the NRA, in Anchorage, for her not being able
to make the event in May. I'm still of two minds, after seeing the diss that Saxby has done, and Isakson, and to a lesser degree,
McCain and Murkowski. Do they deserve to be saved.
old-n-stoopid,
fuck you AND your mother.
It's easy enought to dismiss me narcisisto, but you clearly have nothing to say to your fellow conservative Section9.
Let me preface this comment by saying that C4P people are rock solid supporters of Palin but some of you also need to get a grip n your expectations.
Unless you are part of the circle around Palin and dealing with these things on a day to day basis I doubt that most of us have any concept of what invitations, requests, calls for her attention she faces routinely.
If indeed she gets a lot of requests, she may not be able to do more than address the ones she agrees to. Does every denied invitation warrent a public justification of her decision? Does every invite even warrent a rejection? Can you imagine the whining by those organizations if she went public on refusals? They be complaining because she agreed to someone else and not them.
Her current level of staff may indeed be inadequate to be more proactive and scour the internet for every claim of her attendance or follow-up on every denial/invite. But exactly how do you think she would pay for a large enough staff? At this point it should be enough that unless she makes her commitment public it doesn't exist.
Meg gets a lot of grief, but you know, it was Kris Perry that Palin called her "right hand man" in the resignation speech. And Perry is one of the few who also left state service when Palin did, I'm assuming, to continue to work with Palin. I know we're never s'posed to assume but that was really the impression given.
Perry traveled with Palin during the VP campaign. So maybe Perry's the one who is not getting it together, and Meg as the spokesperson has to keep going out and clearing things up?
I feel like amending the comment I made at the top of my last post:
Let me preface this comment by saying that C4P people are rock solid supporters of Palin but some of you also need to get a grip n your expectations.
After reading all the comments I'm amazed at the number Palin supporters who are beginning to sound like concern trolls. And it seems that some have developed a sense of entitlement and decided that because they support Palin they know what and how she should conduct her career, her future, etc.
Sheesh - if I wanted to read sniping and nitpicking about Palin I could be over at Hot Air.
katiejane,
I agree with you mostly.
don't you agree it "looks" bad to the unsuspecting ?
I don't understand why it's not "addressed" but like you said we don't know the "rest of the story"
she is a sniper and she buys her ammo from the best sources.
so while we may fret, we will ultimately rejoice (and we've done plenty of both already)
don't you agree it "looks" bad to the unsuspecting ?
Bill in Baltimore - Who are the unsuspecting you're referring to? Do you mean the people who still are pushing the "she bought 150K worth of clothing?" The people who ask "who's writing her FB articles because she's too stupid?"
Or the people who call her "a quitter?"
The only complaint I have with how Palin is handling these snafus is that she's giving the organizations too mmuch cover. IMO these groups are trying to use her for fundraising and figure the hint of her involvement is good for publicity. They don't care that it makes Palin look bad and hope she'll attend to avoid "looking bad." So I think that when this happens she should DEMAND that they identify who they have been dealing with and she shouldn't allow them to pass the blame to her. They should be called on their behavior in public - not by some general statement
Oh for pete's sake. Does anyone here know how any other governor, much less ex-governor, manages speaking invitations? This is SUCH small potatoes, which is probably the cause of the mix-up in the first place. And now we are extrapolating from this to the Presidency? Yes, Palin seems to be a fly-by-the-seat-of-her-pants kind of person. Yes, if she wants to be POTUS a lot of the freewheeling-ness will have to change. No, she does not have to worry about that right now EVEN IF she is planning to run for POTUS. Part of the point of resgning is that she no longer has to worry about Alaskans' hurt feelings. Everybody else, rooster up!
katiejane,
notice how I put "looks bad" in quotes ? There was a reason for that, just like in the use of "death panels" with quotes.
but here are your words:
- snafu
- she should DEMAND that they identify who they have been dealing with
- she shouldn't allow them to pass the blame to her
- should be called on their behavior in public
so I'm guessing you agree with what I said, it "looks" bad.
One "unsuspecting" person I am talking about is my Reaganite friend, who knows everyone in DC and has significant influence. He can have pretty much anyone he wants head up to Alaska with a siimple phone call. And they are ready, willing, and able to go.
Now I'm a simple barbarian but serendipitously I came to know this person. And he is not happy with Sarah, because of this "looks" bad.
So that's my point.
Actually, I was on the side of "fix this NOW" as of yesterday but I have taken a different perspective:
Sarah and Meg know what they are doing. You jsut don't know that yet.
Plus as I recently commented:
Sarah is not alone.
Eunice,
I am not an advisor to Sarah Palin, nor do I wish to be. I don't give her advice on what she should do to run for president, because not only am I not qualified for that, I'm not convinced she wants to run for president.
I do know what is happening on the ground in Alaska locally. This event, this group, this man is very important to the future of Alaska. And, they threw him under the bus.
What happened in the last few days has cut a very deep wound.
Sorry your just finding out this is the way Sarah operates, I thought you liked that mavericky, fly by the seat of your pants way of dealing with things! It will happen again and again and again...but it's never her fault.
Ahh Sarah, she keeps driving the debate. It's amazing how this ex governor, and now private citizen, whom the dems said had ruined any political future by resigning, is suddenly driving the debate, on everything from death panels, to energy policy. The dems can seem to get a hold on her. The American people love her, and her facebook postings are immensely popular. She da woman... read Que Sarah: Sarah: at..http://cooperscopy.blogspot.com/
Excuse me, I said the dems can, instead of can't get a hold on her in the previous posting. Sorry, although I think you all knew what i meant.... also read the media's response to Palin. an archived posting at....http://cooperscopy.blogspot.com/
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