Obama Questioned Need For His Own Grandmother's Hip Replacement
In an article for Bloomberg in April, Hans Nichols wrote:
President Barack Obama said his grandmother’s hip-replacement surgery during the final weeks of her life made him wonder whether expensive procedures for the terminally ill reflect a “sustainable model” for health care.
The president’s grandmother, Madelyn Dunham, had a hip replaced after she was diagnosed with cancer, Obama said in an interview with the New York Times magazine that was published today. Dunham, who lived in Honolulu, died at the age of 86 on Nov. 2, 2008, two days before her grandson’s election victory.
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Obama said “you just get into some very difficult moral issues” when considering whether “to give my grandmother, or everybody else’s aging grandparents or parents, a hip replacement when they’re terminally ill.
“That’s where I think you just get into some very difficult moral issues,” he said in the April 14 interview. “The chronically ill and those toward the end of their lives are accounting for potentially 80 percent of the total health- care bill out here.”
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More and more, it looks like Governor Palin's concerns with Obamacare are being vindicated. All Americans, seniors in particular, have every reason to be very worried. As Joshua noted earlier today, Governor Palin is defining the healthcare debate, just like she has been with cap and trade.
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Thank you Sarah for injecting TRUTH into this healthcare debate.
The 3 comments that Rush Limbaugh has attributed to characteristics of Obama's personality that have stayed with me are that Obama has 'a chip on his shoulder', 'does not like America' as it is presented constituted' and is 'rather cold'.
With his grandmother you see the personification of pitiless detachment and cold-hearted demeanor.
I don't understand.
You mean Obama dismissed the suggestion for the hip replacement of her own mother because "he's thinking of the cost, especially for rest of the 80% terminally and chronically ill?"
And the MSM finds honor and sacrifice for that?
And we all must follow his own example.
HE'S A PARAGON NOW OF ACCEPTING DEATH JUDGMENT FOR A GOOD CAUSE?
Despicable to me!
It's my first time to hear this story.
I have a question...Aren't we all terminally ill? We are all going to die, right? Some sooner than others, but you never know. What if we pay for a heart attack patient for care and he gets hit by a bus.
We do not really know when we are going to die, but we are all terminally ill.
K. Carpenter,
Yes, you are absolutely right! Life is a sexually transmitted condition with a 100% mortality rate.
K Carpenter - good point, we are ALL going to die, so does that mean that ObamaCare refuses health care to us all??
Also - no site I have seen is bringing up DENTAL care. So if I have a toothache and I am 70yrs old, I must wait in order to have the tooth pulled, or have anything for the pain other than aspirin?
Think about it, if we ALLOW this healthcare bill to pass-then this is just the tip of the iceberg- NEXT- religion, can you own a gun, how many children you can have? how much money you can make, what you bank balance can be, if too much then it goes to your neighbors bank account- BELIEVE ME-THIS WILL NOT stop with healthcare!!
Sarah 2012!!
My Mom was devout Catholic, my Dad not so much. They both taught me, follow God's will. I still believe that. BO, the Elected Representatives and the Liberal Loons, will never convince me, that they know better than God... God created me and God will say when I die... I don't need the Government to tell me... How to Die. God will make those decisions for me....
What a cold bastard.
Obama said “you just get into some very difficult moral issues” when considering whether “to give my grandmother, or everybody else’s aging grandparents or parents, a hip replacement when they’re terminally ill.>>
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Teminally ill?
If one comes right down to it, from the moment that a baby exits the body of their mother it is on its way to dying. It is only a question of when and how. On the average most American's make it 70 plus years, but only G-d knows for sure when someone will die and he may not even know for sure since he can change his mind along the way.
The issue is not about being terminally ill or the future discounted economic value of a human being.
The question is simple.
Do you believe in the sanctity of human life or not?
That an individual of sound mind should be the determiner of how that person lives as long as they don't harm others and the idea that only G-d has the right to give life and take it away, not some bureaucrat.
People who turn their life over to a bureaucrat or want others to turn their lives over to bureaucrats become idol worshippers, replacing G-d with a bureaucrat in their mind as the deteminer of life and death.
He can't be bothered.
Good thing Officer Crowley was there at that beer summit, because Professor Gates would have been stuck at the top of those steps.
There are no words Rae, to describe
him, this is the mostly coldly calculating human being I've ever
come across, certainly in American
history
Bollocks, narciso. Roosevelt was much more coldly calculating, but he was shrewd enough to hide it behind warmth and sunniness of disposition. That's why FDR towers above this man.
I think we will find that Clinton compares well with Obama, too.
TErminally ill means that the person has a disease that cannot be cured or treated. In many cases fixing some other problem may too disabling for the patient to benefit from it. It isn't necessarily a matter of financial cost. It can be a cost to the quality of life.
I talked to many seniors today about their health care. All of them felt there could be some improvements. They were especially worried about their adult children who have no coverage. None feared for his or her life.
My 83 yo father's a life-long Democrat.His doctor has recommended a knee-replacement for several years.
He's resisted...UNTIL now.
I sent him the HC Bill 'highlights' that show Obamacare will deny my father his knee-replacement because of his age.
*Pg 30 Sec 123:"There will be a GOVT COMMITTEE that decides what treatments/benefits" you'll get.
*Pg 42: "The Health Choices Commissioner will choose your HC Benefits" for you.
I also sent my Dad info about Ezekiel Emmanuel in which he's quoted about the need to LIMIT CARE TO THE ELDERLY,THE DISABLED AND THE VERY YOUNG.
(Emmanuel is the 'architect' of Obamacare)
Obamacare is a DEATH SENTENCE to the elderly.
My father will be getting his knee replacement now...
(Just in case Obamacare passes)
And he regrets voting for Obama.
Kenton,
Excellent example. My parents bare 81 and 79 and, although they didn't vote for Obama, they are extremely worried about what Obamacare will mean to them.
Sandra,
You're missing the point. These decisions should be left to individuals, not some government panel of bureaucrats with the power to decide if you are "worth" the cost of the treatment. With Obamacare, it is a matter of cost.
Doug: unless you are very wealthy the family usually does not make the decision. The insurer does. I would rather have my insurer subject to election rather than greed.
It's also facile to say that the public option will be just like medicare for everyone. Medicare is bankrupt. Adding more people to the system exacerbates the cost problem. Obama knows this, and has proposed that his policies not cover some care that "someone" decides is not cost-effective. He won't say who will make those decisions or who will be affected or what treatments will be denied, he wants to transfer that political headache to an unelected board. And whatever that board decides should or should not be covered will become the definition of a "qualified" plan, and only "qualified" plans are allowed to exist, which basically means that what that board decides to cover will become what everyone gets. I am not comfortable with this. Medicare doesn't really ration care like this, at least not if you get Medicare Advantage, but it's going to have to start in order to "bend the cost curve." (A stupid term if I ever heard one, and far less catchy/effective than "death panels".)
I would rather have my insurer subject to lawsuits. The government isn't.
And since when is the government not greedy?
Sandra,
I would rather have ANYONE make the decision than the government; those same fine folks who run the BMV. If I don't like my insurance company, I can find another one. What do I do if I don't like the government?
I believe "alwaysfiredup" made that exact point.
Wait, what? Obama decides to question the moral issue of terminally ill grandmother's hip replacement AFTER terminally ill grandmother's hip replacement?
He has no skin in the moral dilemma, it was done while she was terminally ill and then later she passed.
NOW he can ponder safely the rest of our moral dilemmas.
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