Ron Rosenbaum: Sarah Palin stopped ObamaCare 'On a Dime'
Liberal blogger Ron Rosenbaum, in an article for Pajamasmedia, gives Governor Palin the credit she deserves for being the only effective voice of opposition to ObamaCare:
As a liberal myself, I was amazed by the obtuseness of the liberal reaction to Sarah Palin’s “death panels” quote. They fell into a trap because all too many were blinded by their class-conscious, snobbish disdain for Palin, who, whatever else you think of her, is one cagey operator.
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They couldn’t believe that Sarah Palin was capable of something as canny as that deadly “death panels” phrase. They couldn’t see that it was a metaphoric shorthand for something real.
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But liberals and, shamefully, liberal oriented media — most of them — made the mistake they keep making about Sarah Palin: because she didn’t go to Princeton she’s incapable of seeing or cutting to the heart of the matter so shrewdly.
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Nonetheless, when the history of the whole misbegotten health care reform effort is written, Sarah Palin has to be given credit for stopping it on a dime — and the snotty liberals who underestimated her should be held responsible.
Again, Rosenbaum is a liberal and I don't agree with all of the conclusions in his article. However, he's one liberal who doesn't make the mistake of underestimating Governor Palin. Read the rest of his piece here.
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That's why we love her. She cuts to the heart of the matter with disarming charm and grace...go get 'em 'Cuda.
At least Rosenbaum zinged Princeton for a change, instead of everyone's favorite Ivy League punching bag, Harvard.
Seriously, maybe some of the loony left will eventually wake up and realize how smart and capable Sarah Palin is. Maybe they've already begun?
Nah, they're not that bright.
Moreover, they're blinded by their ideology.
Ya lets hold those snotty liberals responsible.
Ya Ya that's the ticket lets hold those snotty liberals responsible.
John Lovitz from SNL for all the youngsters.
Rosenbaum is writing an essay about what is another example of liberals and "journalists" getting "wee-weed" up.
It's just like a conversation I had with a liberal co-worker about health care reform. He made a comment about "weirdos making up stuff about death panels".
I calmly and respectfully explained the context of death panels to which he really didn't have a response.
If a 59 year old man is using the word weirdo, then that is an example of getting "wee-weed" up.
Ron Rosenbaum is a wise man, for seeing a wise women.
"One cagey operator?" YOU BETCHA!
Great article on Texas For Sarah Palin
Palin Detractors: Are They Fighting Sarah Palin or a Mythical Creature?
Lisa Graas
Great article for detractors and supporters to pay attention to
I know this is wayyy OT but,
huhhhh??
http://tiny.cc/xPnLk
Sarah did It!... as Rosenbaum admits!
BUT!... I don't give any credence to his excuses for the liberals and what they should have or could have done. All his is doing is patronizing Sarah as an excuse for the Deceitfulness and failure of Obama and the MSM... Lets not get giddy!
Their fault was not in their total put down of Sarah... what's new on that front?... It's their total disdain for us "Sarah-like-folks'... and our voices and the fact we have the audacity to follow her and the boldness to stand up to their... "ONE".... not succumbing or bending or breaking and the real force it presents!
We have always stood up for Sarah.... this time we joined her at the hip... as one voice.
What Rosenbaum wont admit is the fact that Obama and the left made a monumental miscalculation as to the acceptance and validity of their TOTAL agenda and.... the"ONE"... who is failing miserably a Governing!
Yeah, I don't care if those in the media or on the other side of the isle (or on the same side for that matter) disagree with Palin politically but give her the credit and the respect she deserves.
I hope the MSM and ivy league elites continue to underestimate Sarah.
Advantage-Sarah
when they do that.
They will still be underestimating her when she steps up to take the oath of office January 2013 as first woman POTUS.
I will leave the beloved state of Texas to see that in person!
This is what really frustrates me about Chambliss, Isakson and crew. She laid the groundwork and they went running the other way. If they would have backed her metaphorical cllaim Health Care would have been removed from floor discussion. It would have went straight line fast. THis is what is wrong with Healthcare.
It looks like SarahPAC has now declared multicandidate status after donating money to Lindsey Graham, Orrin Hatch, Rob Portman.
http://query.nictusa.com/cgi-bin/dcdev/forms/C00458588/431264/
@Patty
Oh HELL NO she didn't give money to Lindsey Graham..I HATE that guy..Orrin Hatch I'm fine with, Rob Portman I've never heard of, but Lindsey Graham, NO NO NO..why of all the people in the world, why Lindsey Graham. Maybe he donated to her and she was reimbursing him back
PEC
I am so with you our guys (Ga) sax and jonie never seem to step up to the plate and if they do it's on the wrong side.They both need to be taken to the woodshed.We need to setup a meeting with the two of them and set them straight.We need Palin people running the state gop.
Lipstick, she's quieting the establishment, that's all.
Portman is an excellent fiscal conservative running for Ohio senate. I'm glad Sarah has implicitly endorsed him. Hopefully, she does the same for Rubio.
PEC, the reason they did that is Bill Mcinturff told them that GOP would be wise to stay from the debate and let the Dems fight it out. Some advice, huh?
Lindsey Graham? You have got to be kidding me! Graham is not the solution he is the problem. Until I see a very good explanation from SarahPac on why they would donate to this RHINO, my money will remain in the bank.
I've read about Rob Portman, seems like a good guy, Pro-Life, I understand McCain, I sorta get Murkowski, Orrin Hatch I'm fine with, but LINDSEY GRAHAM, Good Lord, please tell me that was a mistake
From Texas for Palin
"The "servant's heart" factor (her philosophy on power) — Again, detractors totally ignore what she herself said about how she can, at least in this moment in time, bring about change more readily without a title. Government, in Palin's mind, is about SERVICE, not power. It’s about getting results, not about getting titles and accolades, because the intent is to serve the interest of the people (something else she's said over and over and over again). She is the Anti-Obama when it comes to what is necessary to bring change to America. The power is with the people, not Washington, hence she stepped down and became a private citizen to (gasp) become MORE powerful. Chew on that one for a while, folks. Imagine that concept of becoming a private citizen to gain power. You don’t get much more conservative and freedom-loving than that".
Sarah rocks 2012
Rob Portman is a good guy. He is running for the senate here in Ohio to hopefully replace retiring RINO George Voinovich. Lindsey Graham, although not exactly my favorite senator, did campaign with her in 2008 and is one of McCain's closest friends in the senate. He does have his moments, although I much prefer SC's other senator.
Lakerfanalways, and others...Believe me, I hear you about Lindsey Graham, but we gotta remember if Sarah really wants to run in the future she will need more people then just us on her side. In politics you always have to work with people you dont agree with on everything and Sarah knows that. I am sure stuff like this will happen alot, but the difference with Sarah is, she is not going to change her mind on the most fundamental principles based on what the Grahams of the world think she should do. She will not fall into the elite beltway trap. She will however get some of them on her side.
jimr3, your passion is fine but do you want her to stretch her wings and become POTUS one day or just be a token "conservative"? Good god, you are bursting as if she made an alliance with Osama Bin Laden. At the end of the day, this is politics, not monasticism and she has make alliance with a lot of people.
Also, Lindsey is on TV all the time and she needs him to speak good of her not trash her on national TV. Maybe he'll remember this donation and speak well of her.
Lyndsey Graham - Is Sarah drunk? Jim Demint of South Carolina yes but Lyndsey Graham? The only thing I will give Graham is he is very supportive of the military. I will even go as far as to say I was having an issue in the military when I was still a resident of SC and when I got the word to Graham it was fixed fast.
He is very wishy washy and would toss her under the bus in a heartbeat.
Portman is running for the Ohio Seat is he not? I think he is considered very knowledgeable on health care.
Once again though I would say right State to finance for a Senator just the wrong Senator.
The only reason I can think of is that he promised her that he would not vote on DeathCare. Lindsey Graham is one of the worst of the worst,is anyone even running against him? If there isn't anyone in the GOP running against him then I can understand why she would give him a donation. How much was given? Doesn't say? Also, Lindsey is a RINO, he will NEVER treat someone like Sarah Palin with any respect, look at Chambliss, first he loved her, now he distances himself from her. They are all the same. Orrin Hatch I am fine with, he seems like a good guy, I can understand McCain, I heard that he gave her a donation and she was reimbursing him, Murkowski, yeah I get that, Rob Portman seems like a great guy, just Graham bothers me, because I hate that guy. Perhaps she was not aware of the donation made to him
Oh yeah I forgot..DeMint, isn't he running against Lindsey Graham? Damn, has to be an error, no way would she give money to Graham when you have DeMint, who is AWESOME, running against him. Maybe she is not made aware of who gets the money
OK. A little money for Graham I am fine with. Look I didn't agree with Sotomoyor vote but let us remember elections have consequences. She is probably about as good as we can get from Obama because if he had his real choices it would be Jeremiah Wright and Bill Ayers. Also she replaced a liberal anyway so no big deal there.
lakerfan, nobody is running against Graham.
No, I just don't get this. I don't see why she needs the help of Lindsey Graham. Work with him on what ever but don't give my hard earned dollars to help this RHINO's re-election. Lindsey Graham is not the solution, he is the problem. My God, this RHINO voted for Judge Sotomayor. It was my understanding that SarahPac would support candidates who share Sarah Palin's vision -- Lindsey Graham does support her vision nor mine.
Sorry for being such an amuetur- who's Lindsey Graham? Other than being a RINO?
-Jane
@wisetrog
Really? So whats the point of giving money..sorry not familiar with South Carolina politics.isn't DeMint running for something?
LA - No Graham just ran so he is in until 2014. Demint runs in 2010. The only one that could really challenge Graham in SC is Sandford (well not anymore). For a small State SC has always had vocal members of the Senate. Before this crew it was Thurmond and Fritz Hollings. They make the 2 duds from Georgia Chambliss and Isakson look even worse.
@PEC
Thanks for the info. I hope she gives money to DeMint, I really like him. What I don't get is, why give money to Lindsey Graham at all if he isn't even running for anything
DeMint is not running against Graham! DeMint and Graham are the two South Carolina senators.
I don't know about this one wisetrog. I understand needing to make alliances, but Lindsey Grahamnesty is never going to be on her side. He's on his own side, which is whatever side gets him facetime for criticizing conservatives. He's as bad as McCain, but at least giving to McCain makes a little bit of sense. Murkowski too. (Though I can't stand either of those two). Hatch is usually tolerable and Portman is good, but man, I hope she has a good reason I'm not seeing for the Graham thing. jimr3is right, Graham is part of the problem.
Lyndsey Graham _ not a big fan overall is very pro-military. He was one of the leaders to get the rules changed to allow Reservist deployed in this war to get the age they can draw retirement lowered from 60 vs time deployed. He is also a Colonel in the Reserves and is a JAG oficer so he is the Expert on Military Law in the Senate. Graham also campaigned hard for McCain so Sarah got to spend a lot of time behind doors with him and probably got to know him a little more on a personal level.
Look guys we don't worship Sarah. She will do things we don't agree with. If these are her worse mistakes she is pretty good.
Yes, give to DeMint, he is a fighter. Remember his "waterloo"? But don't give to Graham.
I can understand giving money to McCain and even Murkowski but I cannot understand givning money to Lindsey Graham. What reason could she possibly have for forking over money to that squish? Aside from him being a permanent fixture on McCain's campaign trail, I don't see any connection here. Has Palin even uttered Graham's name in public? I'm sorry but this bothers me. I support Sarah but I do not support her decision to give money to Graham--I'm not sure I support giving money to Hatch either.
I hope SarahPAC gives to Rick Perry and John Kasich. They are good guys and proven themselves.
As far as Graham goes, I just don't like the guy. But here is a theory, could these people have given Sarah money to help her Pac when she first started, and she is just reimbursing all of them. That IS a possibility, because Lindsey Graham isn't running for anything, so why give someone who isn't running, any money. I have a gut feeling these people gave HER money when she first started her Pac and now she is returning the favor. I hope she gives money to DeMint, he seems like a great guy, we need more like him in the Senate! Also, Rob Portman seems like a good guy too. I just read about him(Since I had never heard of him) Pro-Life, fiscal conservative..
Jeez everybody, lay off of SarahPAC. I wish Graham were not my Senator, but she is paying him back for support he provided her during the campaign. That's all.
Lindsey Graham is against drilling in ANWAR. With respect to more drilling in the OCS, first he was against it now he is somewhat for it.
Remember the Gang of 10?
WSJ: "That's because the plan is a Democratic giveaway. New production on offshore federal lands is left to state legislatures, and then in only four coastal states. The regulatory hurdles are huge. And the bill bars drilling within 50 miles of the coast -- putting off limits some of the most productive areas. Alaska's oil-rich Arctic National Wildlife Refuge is still a no-go."
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB121815293390922431.html
Doesn't sound to me like he really share's Palin's vision for energy independence. The guy is a squish.
Jimr3, McCain is also against drilling in ANWR and she donated to him -- does that now disqualify her from your support?
It's a debt of honor. He supported her during the campaign and she is paying him back. That is what you do.
@SCSoxFan
That is exactly my theory, she is just giving back what they gave her. I think she will give money to DeMint, and she already endorsed Rick Perry, expect more donations soon
SCSoxFan,
Yes McCain is against drilling in ANWAR and he was part of the Gang of 10. But she ran with McCain on the ticket and I completely understand her loyalty to him --but Graham I just don't get it.
Jim, McCain was Graham's right hand during the campaign. Graham supported her and she also probably got to know him pretty well during the campaign. This is a donation for PERSONAL reasons, not POLITICAL\POLICY reasons.
@jimr3
Graham I don't get either, considering he isn't even running for anything. Why give money to someone who is already locked into 2014. My theory is that he donated to her Pac and she is reimbursing him for his donation. A lot of politicians do that, when someone is starting a Pac for the first time, they donate to it, then after they raise a considerable amount of money, they are reimbursed the amount they were given.
She'll never donate to anyone if we hold other legislators to Palin's conservative creds.
SCSoxFan:
What support did Graham give Palin? He may have attended a few rallies with her and said something complimentary in an interview here and there during the campaign but has he come to her defense for any of the smears she has endured since? Did he defend her "death panel" statement? And the fact that he doesn't support drilling in ANWR should have been a deciding factor in her decision to give him money. And you cannot compare giving money to McCain with giving money to Graham--apples and oranges due to the fact that she was McCain's VP pick. Graham supported McCain--not Palin.
Look guys,
I still love our Sarah. And I really hope there is a logical reasonable explanation here. But on the surface, I think this is a mistake. But what do I know, I am a political novice. Therefore I will not comment any further until I know more.
jimr3 - SOunds like Graham. As I said he is strong pro-military. I will leave it at that. Don't like him either.
Wisetrog @ 4:11 - The plan for the Republicans to sit back and let the Dems fight each other is somewhere between stupid and idiotic and is why they only have 40 seats. OK what happens when the Dems unite and the Republicans sat on the sideline? By time they get in the game it is too late. Momentum has turned. The Republicans had momentum. Sarah hit a big 3 pointer for them and as she tried to rally the team it is like the GOP coach called a timeout and took her out of the game.
The bill was on the ropes. Knock it out. If you give it another chance it may not go away.
I am really beginning to believe my 8 year old twins are better organized than the GOP.
scfox - I agree with you on what the Graham tie is. Look with the bums around her Graham may have been one of the few she felt she could even talk to. Sometimes we forget there is a personal side to these people.
And no Graham has not given to her.
Tiny Dancer, she obviously doesn't see it that way. None of us know the interactions during the campaign and whether he has donated to her or not. It's politics. There are rules, whether we like them or not.
If you are willing to throw her under the bus for this after everything she has said and done...
ANYONE who throws Sarah under the bus for reimbursing a guy that probably gave her a donation at the start of her Pac was never a supporter of hers to begin with. Sarah has single handily, with just a few words, might have brought down DeathCare, I care more about that then who she gives money to. November 2010 is a LONG ways away, let's try to save the country from Obama and his cronies and worry less about who she gives money to
Ronald Reagan campaigned for moderate Republicans on a regular basis. If Sarah wants to be President, she can't just have support of the conservative base. She has to build a coalition. She'll do it the way Reagan did it. He did not move to the center to try to appeal to moderates. He convinced moderates and even some Dems to move right to support him. Judging by her Facebook posts, that is what Sarah is doing. She will stay on the right while convincing those in the center to support her on her terms.
Graham is meh, Portman is good, Hatch I suppose ok, but we hope for a better slate next time.
Graham is Center Right. Probably leans more toward the Center than most on here but his voting record would put him in that Center Right Coalition she talks about.
By the way can't wait to here from Sarah again. What day of the week is it?
Has Graham said anything negative about Sarah?
Graham traveled with Sarah, maybe she has more insight about the person.
Hatch is good.
SCSoxFan:
Where did I say I was willing to throw Sarah under the bus? In fact, I said I still support her but I do not support this particular decision.
As for there being rules in politics, that's the problem with the current crop of losers we have in DC now. I'm tired of (to quote Sarah) "politics as usual". Graham is part of the problem and giving money to him was a mistake in my opinion.
I just hope she realizes the impact these decisions make on those of us who are giving to her PAC. I still trust her overall judgement but that doesn't mean I cannot be conerned when something like this happens.
Palin supporters have got to start realizing that she is going to have to reach out and work with moderate Conservatives.
I personally have always liked Graham. He is a solid Republican, certainly more on the moderate side than others, but a good guy who is attractive to a lot of Republicans and independents.
Can you imagine Ronald Reagan talking about fellow Republicans the way many on this site have done?
I can get past Graham, and yes, this is about building relationships. But she needs to donate to other conservative candidates.
Am I missing something, why does Graham need a contribution? Didn't he just get re-elected?
Tiny, I understand. We'll have to agree to disagree on this one. At the end of 2010, I suspect we can agree on 90%+ of the people she supports. There will always be a few head-scratchers.
Remember, Palin would not have been VP without Graham/Mccain/Lieberman/and that whole Rhino clique.
Period.
Get a grip you guys. Sarah will never turn her back on the people who nominated her to the second highest office in the land. Ever.
SCSoxFan, What do you think Palin has been doing in the last 3 weeks?
Is she working on her book or is she finding a trustworthy political adviser?
I predicted months ago that this conversation would occur.
One day Sarah would donate to a politician many of her supporters would not agree with.
So what are you folks going to do? Sour on Sarah. Claim she is selling out. Betraying the trust of SarahPac donors. La-di-da, la-di-da.
Folks, get a life. We have much bigger fish to fry than who Sarah donates a few thousand dollars to on a one time basis.
Am I back in high school?
Why are we so brutal? Who is Sarah suppose to give money too? I have seen Graham on Greta before and he seemed willing to take good hits at Obama, that does not sound like someone too center to me.
I do not propose to know all his voting records etc. but when we sound like we are going to dump Sarah because she gives monmey to someone who is not a far right ultra conservative we are not looking at the big picture.
Please keep in mind I am a VERY far right Ultra Conservative. I am so far right I am a Religious Baptist Ultra Far Right Conservative. I do not even listen to secular music I am so weird and so right.
I just do not want to sit and pick at what Sarah does in giving to someone who, IMO has spoken out against Obama.
I don't mean to pick a fight with anyone, but who else do we have but Sarah???
NO ONE.
I don't give any bat snot who she gives money too as long as they are not a RINO and speak out against Obama and don't say bad things about Sarah. We are a team. Sarah knows how to play on a team.
Guess what, I don't like or agree with everyone I work with, but we are a team and I appreciate what they do to help everyone.
Anyone who speaks out against Obama is ON OUR TEAM! They will support Sarah when she wins the nomination because they will want Obama out. That is what I want too.
I am sorry if I offended anyone here but good grief, I sold my ivory tower a long time ago. Give Sarah a break, put away your magnifying glass you are anaylizing her with.
Again, I don't mean to offend anyone here. I respect you all very much and I am sorry if I have offended anyone, but that is how I feel. I have guns in my house, I am careful to not shoot myself in the foot, we should ALL not shoot ourselves in the foot our Obama will get reelected.
I agree, Hal. Besides she can "build relationships" without donating PAC money. There is a difference between working with "moderate" Repbulicans and actually ENDORSING them. And by giving money to Graham, she is endorsing him in my opinion.
Now, what will the reaction be if she also donates to Crist? You could agrue the same points with him that some have argued with Graham. In addition, Crist was a fellowing Republican Governor. As a Floridian, I can tell you I will be very unhappy if she donates PAC money to Crist.
Everything Beck is saying right now is Sarah Palin.
Probably working on the book -- her literary agent said this week that she was working extraordinarily hard on it.
I don't think she has any solidly formed ideas on what she wants to do from a personal political point of view yet, so I doubt she is working hard on forming an electoral team of any kind at this point.
Her move towards building a new narrative about herself will peak with the book.
GET OVER LINDSEY GRAHAM ALREADY. We have BIGGER fish to fry. Are you all watching Glenn Beck..WOW he is on FIRE right now. According to Glenn, Sarah sent him a message saying "WOW" I wonder what else she told him, but after watching his show right now all I gotta say is WOW. He is AWESOME!! If he ever ran for office I'd vote for him, but of course, Washington D.C would blow a major gasket if they knew Glenn was coming
Tiny, I would be shocked if she gets involved in the Florida Senate primary. That's just a no-win for her. But, if Crist wins the nomination, are you still going to be angry if she donates to him or campaigns for him (I doubt he would ask her, though), or would you prefer the Dems take the seat?
techno, you're right. BTW, if you wanna support conservative candidates, donate to them directly. The money for SarahPAC is about expanding Sarah's influence, help pay for an organization that'll take her further etc. If you have donated to SarahPAC, think that money has gone to pay for her travel bills or to pay for her assistants, if that makes you feel better.
Its not as if Sarah has adopted a un-conservative position herself. Jeez, people, she even promised to campaign for Democrats! Graham is a pretty senior senator and we saw that GOP establishment is out to get her and she needs these ties with senior influential people.
Tiny, it'd bother me if she endorsed Crist when there is RUBIO available as an alternative. But with Graham there is no tempting conservative alternative.
Even if he's not running anything, politicians need lot of money to help steer their organziations. Think of this as a ritualized gift giving in Washington power circles.
Our main target is to take out Obama in 2012. Keep that in mind and don't get all riled up over pretty trivial stuff.
Glenn's show today is amazing. I love that he brought up having an eternal perspective on things. When all is said and done God's not going to ask us about our accomplishments, like positions held and such. No, we will answer for our character. Did we stand up for what we knew was right, regardless of whether it was easy or safe?
These are amazing times.
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SCSoxFan:
Honestly, I don't know what my reaction would be if she donated to Crist in the general election. I guess it would depend on who the Democratic nominee was. Crist is NO conservative and could do major damage to the conservative movement if he wins. Not only is he against offshore drilling (depending on what day of the week you ask him) but FL was second only to CA in receiving stimulus money. For crying out loud, Crist not only supported Obama's economic "recovery" plan, he helped push it and took the stage with Obama when he was down here.
Sarah said she would support even those in the other party if they share her ideals about the country. So if the Democrat was more conservative than Crist but she still supported Crist because of the "R" after his name, yes, I think I would be bothered by that.
The senator I hope she donates to and campaigns for is Michelle Bachmann. She is one tough and courageous lady just like Sarah. The left have already begun running campaign ads against her and trying to destroy her.
I love to see the two of them working together as a team cleaning up the corrupt Washington establishment.
I will also contribute to any conservative candidate who goes up against and has a chance of defeating Pelosi.
I hope that Sarah throws her support behind Rubio in Florida. Crist is a RINO who was completely behind the stimulus pork package. He does not deserve National Office.
I trust Sarah to make wise political decisions. She didn't get where she is by listing to a lot of outsiders. I firmly believe that McCain/Palin would have won if Sarah had been on board from the beginning and had pretty much control of the campaign strategy. She was the only one telling the truth about Barack Obama in 2008 and guess what, she was right.
Can't wait for 2010 and 2012. Now that we are all aware of the game played by America's domestic enemies, we will win the battles and ultimately the war. I can't believe that moderate Democrats will continue to support this regime when Obama's actions and plans porceed. To suceed, he will rev up his thugery.
Truth is Power.
Lipstick
Hallelujah. The words I've been waiting to see typed for the last couple hours. I've been so frustrated seeing the things typed I had to step away.
Agree with you 110%.
It is getting a little old around her. People tell her what to do and when she doesn't they flip out or turn on her.
People don't like who she donates to. They don't like what events she goes to or chooses not to go to.
They are mad at Meg or Kris Perry or the Guv herself.
Thank you Lipstick for typing something I could finally read without being ticked off.
I find it funny that you say how ultra right conservative you are.
My husband and kids say the same about me. ;)
Beehive:
Thanks. You have no idea how far right I am! I just do not understand the stay home and not vote thing and let a liberal Dem win? Any idiot can shoot themselves in the foot.
It pained me to think about voting for McCain before Palin was tapped. I would have needed a barf bag in the booth. But I would have sucked it up and went in and done it for my kid. So that I could at least TRY to prevent Obama from winning.
That is why if Sarah decides to not seek the nomination in 2012 (If she does she WILL win) I will hold my nose and carry my trusty barf bag with me to vote for Huck or Romney if they are the nominee.
Let's see, which is worse....Obama again or one of them. Yes, I hate to vote the better of two evils. Yes I would like to vote for someone instead of against someone. But good grief, I am not going to shoot myself in the foot, stay home and have Obama have a better chance.
Sarah will run....I hope and pray. She will do it out of duty.
To Congress the 5 pledges:
http://interactive.foxnews.com/projects/inorout/
Sarah is 1,2,3,5.
I don't know Sarah's view on the border but the rest of 4 is Sarah.
I forgot to mention, I am so against Obama I even, gulp...voted for Hillary in the primary.
Good grief. Thank goodness my Dad is not here to see me admit to that! I knew Obama's marxist slant from the beginning. Even, gulp, Hillary is better, although not much.........
This is a loyalty gift. Graham got a donation because he supported her against the Romney crowd and is tight with McCain. That's all there is to it.
Graham probably suspects that Palin has a big future, and probably has gone easy on OCS drilling as payback to Palin.
Don't be surprised if, at some point in time, Sarah makes a donation to HillPac,for example, in exchange for a Hillary donation to SarahPAC. After Hillary leaves State, of course.
Lipstick
I hear ya. I will also hold my nose and vote for the repub candidate if it's not the Guv.
I was really having a hard time reconciling how I was going to vote McCain. My husband said he was writing someone in because he couldn't stand McCain.
When Sarah stepped up to that mike and talked, I knew something special was happening. And as I followed her on the trail, watching the rally's on the internet, I knew there was someone I could finally believe in. This lady will make history.
Needless to say, my husband ended up voting for McCain and I am proud to say that my daughter who was a first time 18 year old voter, did not drink the kool-aid they were passing around at her university. She voted McCain.(and when I say McCain, I really mean Palin)
Graham is pro-life. That's a good enough reason for anyone to donate to him. I congratulate her on the donation.
Lipstick @ 5:38,
I hear what you are saying. And I hope, I HOPE there is a logical reasonable explanation. Like I said in my last post, I still LOVE our Sarah. I always will. And I don’t, or at least I try not to analyze her with a magnifying glass. I have gone to the mat for Sarah many times before. And until now, I have never really questioned her decisions before, well except for when she turned down the state vehicle but I opposed that for safety concerns and besides, as governor, I thought she damn well deserved the large vehicle.
Until Sarah came on the seen, I have never, ever given money to a politician or any political cause. Nor have I ever written any comments or sent emails in support of a politician – I am not that good at it like the good people here at C4P, but I do the very best I can. Now all of that said, in this instance I think I am entitled to question why she would give money to someone who I believe doesn’t share our vision.
From SarahPac:
“Your support of SarahPac will make it possible for Gov. Palin to continue to be a strong voice for energy independence and reform. By supporting SarahPac, you will allow Gov. Palin to help find and create solutions for America's most pressing problems; priority number one is building a strong and prosperous economy that recognizes hard work, innovation and integrity by rewarding small businesses and hard working American families. SarahPac will support local and national candidates who share Gov. Palin's ideas and goals for our country.”
To that end, I don’t see where or how Lindsey Graham fits in.
Indeed, after his Sotomayor vote (the only Rep. on the committee to vote in favor), Graham had this to say to those of us who questioned his vote:
“If we chase this attitude … that you have to say ‘no’ to every Democratic proposal, you can’t help the president ever, you can’t ever reach across the aisle, then I don’t want to be part of the movement because it’s a dead-end movement, I have no desire to be up here in an irrelevant status. I’m smart enough to know that this country doesn’t have a problem with conservatives. It has a problem with blind ideology. And those who are ideological-driven to a fault are never going to be able to take this party back into relevancy.”
Sotomayor is a lifetime appointment, and yet Graham votes yes because is worried about his personal relevancy if he doesn’t help Obama.
Now to be fair, SarahPac may have given to Graham before his vote. But even if that is not the case, as I said up above, I will still LOVE our Sarah – I always will. At the same time, I will reserve the right to question this particular contribution.
HELLO people.
she gave money to Graham because SC is an early open primary, and she needs that endorsement to get some rinos to vote for her in 2012.
On the Graham donation it is how the game is played. Money is influence and influence is Palin Power. Who know maybe Graham needs the money in order to donate to someone else. Graham and Sarah probably agree on 90% of the time. Do not be surprised if this is a way to test Grahams loyalty to her.
As usual, AKReport comes up with the best argument.
HELLO AkReport,
That makes some sense -- if she’s running in 2012.
Say it ain't so, Section9. If my money ever goes to Hillary Clinton in any capacity, or to anything remotely associated with her, I might have to volunteer for an Obama death panel.
I have to say, I really don't get the Hillary love I see from some Palin supporters. The Clintons embody everything that is wrong with this country. Deceitful, power hungry left wing crazies. Do people not remember 1993 at all? And who these people are? "Loathing" the military (Bill's words), mysteriously reappearing billing records, the "pretty in pink" press conference, the phony walk on the beach and stumbling upon a few rocks to make a cross and on and on. True, Sarah and Hillary are both women, but that is where the similarity ends (and it isn't much of a similarity in the first place). They are polar opposites.
And by the way, Hillary never, ever, ever, received a fraction of the negative press that Palin has been subjected to. Her thug machine got beat by the Obama thug machine, but she never would have been in the game if not for the ridiculous media love she enjoyed throughout her "career," such as it was. To compare her experiences in any way to Palin's is an injustice.
What Obama is doing is scary enough. But people running around pretending Hillary Clinton is some sort of "moderate" is pretty damn frightening in itself.
A small amount of money to Graham is no big deal.
However, if Sarah gives to Crist and NOT Rubio in the FL Senate GOP primary, THAT would be crossing the line and it would be our duty to send her our displeasure.
I REALLY hope she campaigns for Rubio, because she
GAVE US HER WORD
she would help those of similar views regardless of party.
For her to give to Crist would in fact betray what she told us, if she had the chance to support Rubio.
Extemely duplicitious article by Rosembaum.
He calls the liberals stupid and backhandledly gives Palin credit for stopping his dream bill. In the meantime PM gets suckered into posting an pro ObamaCare article by Rosembaum because Rosenbaum was smart.
How smart was he? Smart enough to realize that he could find a right of center website to advance ObamaCare just by saying some nice things in the article by Palin.
Rosenbaum is a smart cookie
PM showed their true colors and they ain't too smart.
i think there's some revisionist history going on her with sarah.
doesn't anybody remember that she used to have a better relationship with dems in alaska than gop.
so apparently giving to graham is bad but working with dems is good? come on people.
Sapwolf,
I think we may have to be prepared for the possibility that she will donate to Crist. She is very loyal and, to his credit, Crist campaigned quite a bit alongside her in '08.
That said, I'm sure she much prefers Rubio as do we all. But loyalty is important to Governor Palin, like it or not. What I think is most likely is that she won't donate to either. But again, don't be surprised if she does give to Crist.
I have no inside knowledge on this, just expressing an educated guess.
Charlie Christ? OMG. Well I am not going to contemplant or comment on something that may or may not happen. Instead, I am off to soak myself in Sarah’s Convention and Indiana Right To Life speeches and after which, I will feel much better.
There's also the fact that SarahPac is taking in millions - while our donation limit is $5,000. I personally am no where near that limit and never will be.
But even if some of you can donate $5000, just tell yourself that your $5,000 is going for Meg's salary or Sarah's travel expenses or to support the candidates you do like.
Someone else's money is going to the candidates you don't like.
Welcome to the real world. We all have to work with people every day who we may not agree with politically, religiously, or professionally. We may not even like them. But to get the job done, we have to work with them.
Sarah is a pragmatist. Who gets things done. She asked us to trust her. She has 17 years more experience in politics and getting things done in that world than I have. So I trust her in that arena.
You Know!.... IT'S ABOUT TRUST!
Do you trust Sarah?... Do you trust her JUDGEMENT!
SHE KNOWS WHAT THE HELL SHE IS DOING!... her 'PAC'- donations!.... give her a break for God's sake!
'100% lock step'... is not the standard for supporting anyone, if you can find that candidate, you must be looking in the mirror.
My feeling!.... I have unconditional trust in Sarah Palin.... not because of fuzzy feelings or emotions but because she has EARNED my trust with her outstanding record of accomplishments as Governor of Alaska and that glorious run for VP.
I do have to admit, when I actually take the time to read the list of her accomplishments and think about her speeches, I do get emotional with fuzzy feelings, because they are UNBELIEVABLY satisfying to my conservative inclinations.
Please Trust Gov. Palin, don't withhold it for some PAC donation... another reason I trust Sarah, is because she will not play games with our hard earned dollars.
I think some here overstate the extent to which Graham is a Rino.
On spending issues, which seems to be the #2 issue of the moment, he's one of the best in the Senate (as well as John McCain).
He was pretty aggressive with slamming Obama's energy policies earlier this year. He has kind of disappeared lately but he was pounding the energy points hard earlier this year.
Breaking Palin news:
SarahPAC taken to task by feds for excessive contributions
OOPS: Mistakes on political donations blamed on software.
By LISA DEMER
ldemer@adn.com
Published: August 27th, 2009 08:29 PM
Last Modified: August 28th, 2009 12:44 PM
Former Gov. Sarah Palin's political action committee gave excessive contributions to two well-known Republicans and also is facing demands from the federal government for more detailed financial information on a number of fronts.
The deficiencies are highlighted in a five-page letter sent Aug. 19 by a Federal Elections Commission staffer to SarahPAC treasurer Tim Crawford. The FEC wants answers by Sept. 24.
"Failure to adequately respond by the response date noted above could result in an audit or enforcement action," FEC campaign finance analyst Allen Norfleet wrote.
No problem, said Crawford, a Virginia-based political consultant.
http://www.adn.com/front/story/913839.html
There are some things in which I disagree with Graham, but there is more where I agree.
He is pro-life.
He believes strongly in the 2nd Amendment.
He is very pro-military, and in fact has been in the military, including active and inactive service, since 1982.
I'm sure Sarah has her reasons for giving him money through her PAC, and I do not intend to question her on that. She asked us to trust her, and I, for one, will do that. It will take much, much more than her PAC donations, to whomever she donates to, for her to break that trust. In fact, at this point in time, I can think of nothing that she can do to break my trust in her.
Look people, either you trust her to make the decisions she thinks is right, or you don't. You don't have to agree with all of them. You just need to trust that she knows what's she's doing. Time & again she has proven that to me.
AKReport I think nailed it and money for Crist may happen too. Both are Center to Center/Right. Remember the primaries and both SC and FL are early. Call in the favors when the time comes. Any Dem from either of these places will be to the left of these 2 Senators.
From CQ Politics
"Palin's SarahPAC Backs Portman, Graham, Hatch"
By Jonathan Allen
Former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin's SarahPAC has donated money to the campaigns of Sens. Lindsey Graham of South Carolina and Orrin Hatch of Utah, as well as to Republican Ohio Senate candidate Rob Portman, according to a Friday filing with the Federal Election Commission.
The exact amounts of the contributions were not reported, but Palin had to list the names of candidates she had financially supported to make SarahPAC a bona fide political action committee.
Her contributions to Arizona Sen. John McCain, for whom she served as a running mate in the 2008 presidential campaign, and Alaska Sen. Lisa Murkowski had been reported in a previous filings
Those contributions drew scrutiny earlier this week because SarahPac donated in $5,000 increments, slightly exceeding the limit on giving by individuals for an election cycle. Technically, SarahPAC did not qualify as a "multicandidate" political action committee -- with a $5,000 per candidate, per election limit -- until she had reported contributing to five candidates. The FEC sent the PAC a letter about the discrepancy on Aug. 19.
According to the report SarahPAC filed on Friday, she crossed the five-candidate threshold on Aug. 12 with a donation to Portman. SarahPAC gave to Graham and Hatch on July 14.
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/notepad/2009/08/palins-sarahpac-backs-portman.html
@Doug Brady
She won't endorse Charlie Crist, how do I know..after she resigned, he dissed her, so NO WAY IN HELL would she endorse him
Lakerfan,
You may be right. As I said, my best guess is that she will not endorse anyone in that race. But if she does donate to Crist, I won't be shocked. Hopefully I'm totally wrong and she endorses, and contributes to, Rubio.
As some have said above, I trust her decisions, whatever they are.
Beck's 5 pledges to congress:
Can anyone say Sarah Palin.
1. I believe in a balanced budget and therefore will vote for a freeze in government spending until that goal is realized.
2. I believe government should not increase the financial burden on its citizenry during difficult economic times therefore I will oppose all tax increases until our economy has rebounded.
3. I believe more than four decades of U.S. dependence on foreign oil is a travesty therefore I will support an energy plan that calls for immediately increasing usage of all domestic resources including nuclear energy, natural gas, and coal as necessary.
4. I believe in the sovereignty and security of our country and therefore will support measures to close our borders except for designated immigration points so we will know who is entering and why and I will vehemently oppose any measure giving another country, the United Nations, or any other entity, power over U.S. citizens.
5. I believe the United States of America is the greatest country on earth and therefore will not apologize for policies or actions which have served to free more and feed more people around the world than any other nation on the planet.
For all of those who are concerned about the donation to Senator Graham, I'd remind them that Governor Palin has a particular political vision that she wants to advance. There are multiple paths that she has to follow:
1.) When there is a primary, then she can chose from the conservative candidates;
2.) When there is an already elected incumbent, then she helps her political vision by positively influencing that candidate.
In other words, she can help push particular candidates into prominence, and electoral victory, and she can also pull already elected candidates closer to her political orbit, even if only by a little. If she neutralizes a critic, then her $5,000 is well-spent. If she turns a neutral politician into someone who is marginally more supportive of her political vision, then again, it's $5,000 well spent.
The flip side here is that for SarahPAC to ignore already elected candidates, like Graham, has no upside for Sarah. Sure, she keeps her powder dry, the $5,000 is not spent, and she then has a diminished relationship with those types of politicians.
Keep in mind the golden rule, money talks. If she is donating to a politician, it is the politician who is listening to her concerns rather than her listening to his perspective. What this means in relation to Graham is that he's not going to pull Sarah to his political orientation, instead he'll be listening to Sarah's views.
Now, in respect to Graham, I think that this is more of a personal relationship type of donation instead of a validation of his political views in their entirety. He's McCain's wingman, so he was a defender of McCain and Palin during the election, and she got to know him during that period. She probably has a closer relationship to Graham than she does to many Republican Senators and Congressman, many of whom I would venture that she hasn't dealt with at all.
And for the record, Graham's politics are not my politics. I absolutely detest his position on Amnesty, which is a deal-killer for me. His vote for Sotomayer I can rationalize because the alternative would have been even worse from a conservative perspective - I'd rather have a dim bulb liberal Justice than a razor sharp Marxist Justice. He made lemonade from lemons.
Tommy @ 7:50,
What you say may be true about the spending….and yet, Graham inserted 37 earmarks in the omnibus spending bill. On his position on domestic eneregy production, I will refer you to the WSJ opinion I linked above. As far as overstating the extent to which he is a RINO, I guess you could be right. Now we just have to convince Rush, Mark Levin, Tammy Bruce, et al that Graham is a RINO light.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that Sen DeMint was one of Romney's bigger backers nationally and certainly his biggest in SC. Probably not first on her list.
Sanford isn't exactly doing so well for himself lately.
SC is key state in GOP and conservative politics. Whoever wins SC is the nominee or at least it's been that way every year since they started the SC primary.
Lindsey Graham has been a Rep from SC AND a Sen on key cmtes like Judicial and ASC I believe. The guy is in the military and has lots of military connections. He spearheaded McCain's campaign in SC in 2000 and in 2008. He knows A LOT of folks down there, and he knows the right folks.
Gov Palin is not from SC and as far as we know, doesn't know anyone there. She hasn't run any campaigns, met with any officials, etc...
You need to start somewhere and when it comes to SC and getting to know people, making the right connections, etc... thre's probably no one who knows more and is in a better position than Lindsey Graham.
I suspect that that is the main motive.
Also, it could be something as simple as Graham actually mentioned to her at some point he'd appreciate her support and other potential candidates haven't as of yet. That can make a difference. There's probably guys out there who might not want a donation from her, so that can limit her options.
From what I've read Graham was very influential in the VP selection and after McCain became convinced he couldn't go with Lieberman who was his 1st choice, Graham was apparently fairly supportive of Gov Palin over some of the other possibilities. So he in no small way played a part in everything.
A token of appreciation for all that is to be expected. I doubt it's some huge amount anyway. Besides, Graham was just reelected and isn't up until 2014 so I don't even know why he'd need any donations at this point. Hopefully he resigns to serve in her cabinet starting 2013.
Probably just staying on good terms with McCain and his network. He had an organization that won NH twice, that won the nomination in 2008, that won SC, that was very tied in to a lot of important people, that knew a lot of the right people, had a lot of the right phone numbers, email lists, donor lists, etc...
It's very difficult to build an organization. If she can do anything to pick up many of the pieces that would be a big step.
I will not ask for any "reasonable logical explaination" from Palin.
You are still in your ivory tower.
What is the view like from up there?
Lipstick,
I take it your comment is directed at me. I gave you a much respected comment and yet you come back and disparaged me with the “ivory tower” business. Did you not read my entire post?
If not, here is what I said @ 6:44 in part:
“Now to be fair, SarahPac may have given to Graham before his vote. But even if that is not the case, as I said up above, I will still LOVE our Sarah – I always will. At the same time, I will reserve the right to question this particular contribution.”
Allow me to repeat that again: I will still LOVE our Sarah – I always will. Not only did I say it once, but I said it twice. I also said this is the ONLY time that I have ever really questioned her. Just because I question this particular contribution, that doesn’t mean she has lost my support. In fact, $29.00 was sent to Sarah’s Pac this morning in honor of this glorious day, and it wasn’t just one contribution, but it was two, one from me and one from my wife.
Now who is it again that is in that ivory tower?
If Graham was in the middle of a primary against a conservative candidate, this would piss me off. I'm guessing SP's $5k donation was payback for something or other, because if he's not facing reelection until 2014, what would be the point of donating anything at all to him?
RINO-hunter
It should also be noted that her PAC has been underway for quite awhile now, and she may have done some things as Governor, that she might not have done in this different climate. One anticipates that she may also just be purchasing political currency; he stated goal is: a right of center coalition with people who share her values, regardless of party affiliation.
Isn't Graham pro-life and pro-gun?
Boom, there's your explanation.
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