Wednesday, September 9, 2009

The Ambinder amendment (Updated)



Over at The Atlantic, Marc Ambinder is using Governor Palin's oped in today's edition of the Wall Street Journal (see TR's post below) to make the case for an Ambinder amendment to the constitution:

Anyone with policy credential problems (as defined by Marc Ambinder) should not be treated as a legitimate and influential voice in public debate.

Ambinder magnanimously concedes that Gov. Palin does have "every right to submit an opinion piece on health care to the Wall Street Journal's op-ed page, and they've got every right to print it." The media, however, don't have the right to take her seriously. Why not? Because Ambinder says so, that's why not:

[I]f the media treats her as as a legitimate and influential voice today, she won't need to do the hard work that will result in her learning more about policy and actually becoming conversant in the issues that she, as a potential presidential candidate, will deal with.

One day, perhaps, in the distant future, Ambinder might change his mind. Provided she has "done the hard work" of course. But for now, no full first amendment rights for the Governor.

Question to Ambinder: who the hell died and made you Obama's new public debate czar? Last time I checked the First Amendment, it didn't mention anything about it being limited by a Government power to decide who should or shouldn't be taken seriously - let alone about a blogger at Atlantic.com to be invested with the power to decide what the press should or shouldn't be writing about.

I'll leave aside for now the condescending rubbish about Gov. Palin not deserving to be taken seriously because she hasn't done enough thinking or studying. Surely it can't have escaped his notice that as governor, Palin would have dealt with healthcare issues on a regular basis? Or that since stepping down as governor, she has been writing about the healthcare bill virtually non-stop for the past month and a half? How much longer does she have to go on writing about it before she finally gains the right to be taken seriously under the Ambinder amendment? A month? A year? Ten years?

If all her efforts up to now escaped Ambinder's notice, they surely didn't escape everybody else's. In fact, according to Google officials, Gov. Palin's discussion of "death panels" in her first Facebook post caused a huge surge of interest in H.R. 3200:

A peak in public interest occurred in mid-August, after Palin first warned of "Obama death panels." The phrases "Section 1233" and "H.R. 3200," which were part of the "death panels'' discussion, were surging to high spots on the hot trends list--competing with searches for the latest racy photos of actresses Vanessa Hudgens and Ashley Greene.

Healthcare policy: better than sex? Apparently it was once Gov. Palin started getting involved in the debate. Maybe Ambinder regrets this sudden surge in public interest in one of the costliest and most far-reaching pieces of legislation ever proposed? Would he rather the bill was rushed through without proper public debate (or even legislative scrutiny)? Or does he perhaps also believe that the great American public are somehow not qualified to discuss such "complicated" issues? Shall we just leave it to 'experts' like Ezekiel Emanuel from now on to decide what's best for us? Or even better: to the all-knowing Ambinder himself?

One more thing before I chuck his sorry behind into my spam filter: cut the cr*p about Palin's use of speechwriters somehow being evidence that the ideas in her pieces aren't truly hers. As a former speechwriter (a long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away) I think I'm reasonably qualified to tell him that this is total baloney. Any speechwriter worth his salt will have read every scrap of paper ever produced by his boss, as well as every biographical sketch ever written about him/her. That way, he is able to write with confidence from the politician's perspective, using their ideas and - where possible - even their language. Any speechwriter that doesn't do this, will be an ex-speechwriter before he knows it.

If Ambinder wants to suggest that in Gov. Palin's case the speechwriters are secretly telling her what to think and say, it'd be great if he could produce some actual evidence to back up his claim. There is no such evidence of course. Ambinder is merely recycling an Obama campaign talking point introduced on the night of her RNC speech on the 3rd of September of last year:

“The speech that Governor Palin gave was well delivered, but it was written by George Bush's speechwriter and sounds exactly like the same divisive, partisan attacks we’ve heard from George Bush for the last eight years,” the campaign said in a statement.

Within minutes of her finishing her speech, Democratic talking heads on all the major channels were making the exact same point. Like Mort Kondrake at Fox News: "She didn't write it of course." Or Eugene Robinson at MSNBC. While conceding she may have written the biographical part herself, he goes on to suggest the other part was "written by McCain speechwriters". At the time, the remark mainly served to tie Gov. Palin to the Bush White House. At a deeper level, it was also meant as a sexist put-down. The reference to Palin requiring a speechwriter tapped into the preconceived idea about beauty versus brains - that you can have one or the other, but not both. It was the same sentiment that inspired liberal radio host Ed Schultz to issue a "bimbo alert" when discussing the Governor, and that made the LA Times describe Palin as McCain's "political trophy" (as in: 'trophy wife').

As far as I'm concerned, such attacks are an unfortunate but inevitable part of the rough and tumble of a presidential campaign. But Ambinder isn't campaigning for anything (or at least, he shouldn't be). As a professional blogger, he's supposed to combine a sense of decency with a hard-nosed reporter's love for uncovering the truth, no matter how uncomfortable. In this post, he does neither. What his message boils down to is "First, we ask Sarah Palin to leave the room." It's been tried before. It didn't work then, it won't work now.

Update by JL: Reader Greg links to a K-Lo post over at National Review's The Corner called 'The Huffington Post exposes the next big political scandal'. It refers to a HuffPo piece by a conspiracy theorist called Geoffrey Dunn who, much like our friend Marc Ambinder, makes a lot of the fact that Palin may be using one or more speechwriters ('Palin no longer writing her own script').

Memo to Dunn: all national political figures use speechwriters. Why? Because in a single year, they may have up to a hundred speaking engagements of various kinds. The more ambitious among them will also try to write at least one op-ed every other week. And write the odd article for a magazine. Or publish a study for a think tank. Or even a book or two. All that comes on top of the other work they do: legislative work, campaigning, fund raising etc. Does Dunn really believe politicians should always be writing their own speeches, op-eds, articles, books etc? Or does this new rule only apply to one particular politician, namely the one he loves to hate?

Maybe CNN's Anderson Cooper was right after all when, in a discussion about Gov. Palin's RNC speech, he observed:

ANDERSON COOPER: I will also say I didn't hear people talking about who was the speech writer for any of the Democrats' speeches.

GLORIA BORGER: Right.

COOPER: It seem we're only highlighting who the speech writer is for her speech.


No kidding.



(H/t: Mel)

Update by JR: The first liberal hack who actually debates the governor's argument should get a prize. Dunn is simply a hack, writing a book, that nobody outside of the Keith Olbermann demographic will read. So, that makes about five people.

101 comments:

wisetrog September 9, 2009 10:12 AM  

Smack him, smack him hard.

Nancy September 9, 2009 10:17 AM  

Nancy Amendment:
Anyone named Marc Ambinder, has problems, and anything he writes should be looked at as brain farts.

Doug Brady September 9, 2009 10:18 AM  

Awesome job Joshua. I like to read a good fisking in the morning.

Mia September 9, 2009 10:39 AM  

This what Dr. Phil Munger wrote in the comment section...

Marc,
The consensus of Alaska progressive bloggers and Alaska reporters with whom we regularly communicate is that Sarah Palin is not writing any of the longer or most recent facebook posts. We know her well. I've known her for 19 years.
The fact that her writers are now submitting material from a facebook account in her name as testimony in New York State is hilarious, but the lack of serious scrutiny on the authorship of this and other material attributed to Palin is beginning to be troubling.
I do hope you get around to looking into this.

Mia September 9, 2009 10:43 AM  

Dr Phil knows the 'Cuda Well??? Huh???

Greg September 9, 2009 10:44 AM  

The nutjobs are really up in arms, aren't they? The Pathetic Geoffrey Dunn is at it again also.

The Huffington Post Exposes the Next Great Politcial Scandal [Kathryn Jean Lopez]


Breaking news: A politician has a speechwriter. Geoffrey Dunn writes:



http://tinyurl.com/n6ml5q

techno September 9, 2009 10:50 AM  

So even if you accept the premise that Sarah Palin did not write anything of consequence herself over the last month regarding the various national issues, are the critics so presumptuous to suggest that the ideas are not hers either, that she is either a pawn or a dupe of the "right-wing conspiracy", that some puppet-master is telling her what to write and assert.

What started off as RIDICULE has now descended to being RIDICULOUS.

James in Missouri September 9, 2009 10:53 AM  

For Pete's sake Sarah Palin has a journalism background. Why are people having such a hard time believing that she can write her own stuff? These idiots are simply misogynists.

wjshipley September 9, 2009 10:56 AM  

I suspect that Governor Palin is actually writing her own pieces. She doesn't have a lot of staff, she probably has someone look at them -- I do the same with memos I write.

However, to bring up this criticism when our congressional 'leaders' don't even read the bills they are passing is absurd.

AKReport September 9, 2009 10:58 AM  

lol these loons are one big lol fest.

PEC September 9, 2009 11:04 AM  

I am going to guess that Sarah is writing and then having somebody like Lyn Vincent look over it. This is excellent prep for future office because actually that is what Presidents do. Actually I am wrong. Presidents tell a topic they want to talk about and the speechwriter writes it. Sarah did more writing in the WSJ OPed than Obama did for his speech tonight.

techno September 9, 2009 11:06 AM  

James in Missouri:

The phrases "grasping at straws" and "up against it" come to mind.

Mia September 9, 2009 11:06 AM  

Hey Dr. Phil...Still having those Secret Meetings??? BTW...How's Diva and the Gang?

hrh September 9, 2009 11:06 AM  

She writes them.

Todd and Lynn Vincent look them over.

That's my opinion.

Obama doesn't write his. He doesn't even know what's in them until he reads them on the teleprompter.

The few minutes of his school speech yesterday and the awkward pauses and head bobs told me all I needed to know about his knowledge of what was in that - or any other - speech he ever gives.

This is another Class Case of projection from the left - their guy is a total puppet as evidenced by his continual and constant complete reliance on TOTUS and whatever his people load into TOTUS. So they say Palin is a puppet.

Pretty sad for them, really.

hrh September 9, 2009 11:07 AM  

The few minutes I saw of his school speech ...

amendment to my post

hrh September 9, 2009 11:08 AM  

Oh brother, another correction:

Classic Case ...

I need Vincent to look over my comments!

Sextus Atlanticus September 9, 2009 11:09 AM  

It is true that most politicians have speech/ghost writers, but they also participate in the give-and-take of interviews, press conferences and debates.

She was flailin' palin in the AK gubernatorial debates, and said, at the outset, that she wouldn't answer the questions at the VP debate.

She needs to develop her ability to think on her feet. She should spend her time prepping for that if she wants to be taken seriously as a candidate or advocate of any sort.

Whitney The Pipsqueak September 9, 2009 11:10 AM  

Ambinder says....
[I]f the media treats her as as a legitimate and influential voice today, she won't need to do the hard work that will result in her learning more about policy and actually becoming conversant in the issues that she, as a potential presidential candidate, will deal with.

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1) He sounds like scared little whiner.

2) If he doesn't think that she is "legitimate", why take the time to write this piece? If someone is not substantive or legitimate, there would be no reason to pay any attention to them.

3) The idea that she does not write her op-eds by herself is ludicrous! Every op-ed and Facebook note she has written has her style and tone all over it, plus her signature sarcasm. Every time, Madame 45 (that's the LOTUS's name for Gov. Palin) and the LOTUS go to work, the MSM and pundits pull one of three talking points out a hat to describe her and her writings:
*she's stupid
*she's crazy
*she didn't write it
It doesn't fly.

4) The idea that she isn't learning about potential issues she may discuss as a potential candidate is crazy. Her forte is energy, yet she has become the most outspoken critic of Obamacare out there. She is obviously "learning" and studying up on the issues that are not her forte. Not to mention that the meme that she is stupid is really getting old and is insulting. True there may have been more potato plants than ivy vines at the University of Idaho, but the amount of elitism in the press and amongst the pundits is starting to tick me off. Every insult that these "journalists" direct at Sarah Palin also hits the millions of conservative, state university educated women across the country, myself included. That's ok, we don't play the victim; we fight back!


Ok, my rant is done.

hrh September 9, 2009 11:11 AM  

SA, thanks for stopping by, aka Marc Ambinder. I appreciate your opinion from on high that she flailed in the AK gov debates. Wonder why she won then?

TJohnsonEE September 9, 2009 11:11 AM  

Techno and PEC:
We don't think Obama writes his own stuff... but we do believe they are his CORE ideas. You know Obama by the company he keeps!

narciso September 9, 2009 11:16 AM  

Actually it sounds like Mr. 9%, Andrew Halcro. Biden was answering questions from another debate in another realm, all together

katiejane September 9, 2009 11:19 AM  

Who the sam hill is Marc Ambinder to decide who is entitled to express an opinion? Did I miss some election where the American public voted him in as decider of worthiness?

arc needs to put on his big boy underoos and ignore her if she offends his sense of importance. Maybe he's upset because more people are reading her editorials than bother with his?

Until/unless someone proves their authorship of her words he and his cabal have absolutely nothing to justify their whining that she doesn't write what is published under name.

katiejane September 9, 2009 11:22 AM  

John - no one take you seriously either.

And no sane business person would believe any tripe Obama puts out.

Mia September 9, 2009 11:28 AM  

Hey John...
We not only take the 'Cuda seriously...
Get ready for this John...
Hold on to your panty hose...
WE Give MONEY....hehehe...

Greg September 9, 2009 11:29 AM  

It's interesting to note that whenever 0bama's teleprompter goes down, he stops dead in his tracks, and waits for it to be fixed. That tells me 1) he didn't write his own speech 2) he's too dumb to even read it over and become familiar enough with it to be able to continue without the prompter, and 3) that he is unfamiliar with the issue he's giving the speech about.

baboonking September 9, 2009 11:30 AM  

i find all this quite amusing, so alaska progressive bloggers have come up with a consensus that sarah isn't writing the "longer" facebook posts hmmm like the same consensus that trig isn't her baby hmmm more curious to me is who the reporters they are in constant contact with?

PEC September 9, 2009 11:33 AM  

Tjohnson - We definitely know Obama by the company he keeps.
DR Death Emmanual.
Jeremiah "I hate White People" Wright.
Bill "Can I blow up another Police Station" Ayers.
Van "I signed the 9-11 truther petition before I didn't sign it" Jones.
Tony "I will buy a lot next to your house if you get me a Grant for my slums" Rezko.
Michelle "I am not proud of my Country" Obama.
The list is a lot longer.
Oh why don't the liberals talk that Ayers did the ghost writing for Obama's first book.

TJohnsonEE September 9, 2009 11:33 AM  

Hey John:

"garbage like the Palin piece?"

Such eloquence!
Such lyrical rhetoric!

You must have been the guy who wrote the "police acted stupidly" speech for Obama.

Why is it that when you talk to Dems about tort reform all you can hear are crickets? (Hint: $$$$$)

Eunice September 9, 2009 11:34 AM  

She was flailin' palin in the AK gubernatorial debates, and said, at the outset, that she wouldn't answer the questions at the VP debate.

She needs to develop her ability to think on her feet. She should spend her time prepping for that if she wants to be taken seriously as a candidate or advocate of any sort.
-----------------------------------

@Sextus, John, etc.

Will you shut up already? It's amazing that it's those who know next to nothing themselves, who rather talk nonsense about Sarah.

Of course, Sarah has been doing her writings herself and in 2013, she will become your president. I hope you guys (Sextus, John, et al) are taking good care of yourselves (healthwise), so you can be alive to witness PRESIDENT PALIN in action.

Sorry to C4P for breaking the rules.

God bless Sarah Palin and her family. I love her so much!!!

Joshua, great job...

Tommy Report September 9, 2009 11:41 AM  

Here's the DNC response to the op-ed:

“The way Sarah Palin is trying to scare Americans you'd think it's Halloween already," DNC spokesman Hari Sevugan said in a statement. "But, by continuing to peddle what Pulitzer Prize winning independent fact checkers have found to be ‘pants on fire’ lies and doubling down on the GOP recommendation to end Medicare for future generations, the only thing that's in costume here is Sarah Palin's supposed concern for the health care of Americans. What the American people find truly scary is that insurance rates have doubled this decade and continue to rise at a rate three times faster than their wages, and that rather than take on the insurance industry Republicans have become their biggest defenders. And what Sarah Palin should find truly scary is that her reputation as a serious leader can in fact sink even lower than it already has when she continues to stand by such outlandish claims.”

narciso September 9, 2009 11:46 AM  

No, we don't think it's Halloween, we don't want it to be "Soylent Green" or "Logan's Run" either, what a way not to answer the question

militantfeather September 9, 2009 11:46 AM  

"She was flailin' palin in the AK gubernatorial debates"

Complete fabrication by a turd of course. I watched them, she was fantastic.

She wrote the article, it is very much her style, clear, to the point and hard hitting - Wham Bam.

But anyhow, what does it matter if she didn't write them on her own completely. What high profile politician at the national level doesn't have support? They all have a political team for good reasons.

In fact everything Obama now utters has been focus grouped to death.

If this is the best argument by the libs, I feel very sorry for them. They will continue to get whupped.

jimr3 September 9, 2009 11:46 AM  

I am by no means an expert when it comes to writing but as a novice it seems to me that just like a thumb print, every writer has their very own unique pattern / theme / nuance / style.

All that a person has to do is to go back before the campaign and read what she actually wrote. And when you do, you will notice similarities to what she wrote then compared to what she is writing today. Her prints are all over this. It is classic Palin.

baboonking September 9, 2009 11:48 AM  

btw this article from michael wolff is very interesting and perfect for this post:

http://tinyurl.com/klhtmq

he makes one point that the libs don't get, whoever is doing the research, writing, etc for sarah there is someone doing it and its been pretty effective and he's right! remember the complaints that her team was not up for the big league.

while the media is portraying sarah as having a midlife crisis wolff says that the latest WSJ Op-Ed just proved that theory wrong! you don't go around writing op-eds and changing the debate on healthcare while your life is falling apart.

he says she's back, she's getting a competent team around her, she's making the right moves and she's gonna have a major role in the conservative movement.

militantfeather September 9, 2009 11:49 AM  

Tommy Report said...
Here's the DNC response to the op-ed:

***************

Holy Mo. This article is hitting the liberals very hard. I expect Obama is very upset. It could be likely he will be off his game tonight. He is such a wuss.

Mia September 9, 2009 11:50 AM  

Hey Hari..."Pants On Fire" very eloquent..

narciso September 9, 2009 11:52 AM  

BTW, here's another one of the NRO braintrust, trying to ignore that she was right, yes that same Wesley
Smith:

http://www.firstthings.com/blogs/secondhandsmoke/2009/09/08/obamacare-now-sarah-palin-is-cooking-with-gas-obama-and-the-bureaucratization-of-health-care/

Whitney The Pipsqueak September 9, 2009 11:52 AM  

The only lying pants that are on fire are President Obama's creased pants.

jimr3 September 9, 2009 11:55 AM  

Marc Ambinder

http://www.mediabistro.com/fishbowlDC/original/marc1.jpg

Nuff said.

Puma for Life September 9, 2009 11:55 AM  

Jim Demint on greta talking about Sarah's oped...there's a video; you might want to post it here.

http://hotair.com/archives/2009/09/09/video-demint-challenges-obama-to-line-by-line-review-of-obamacare/

militantfeather September 9, 2009 11:55 AM  

Munger says Palin isn't writing her own articles!

Munger the mongerel, who constantly boasts how well he knows the Gov? Munger, you have fed off that too long, your 15 mins is up.

Also, if all the Alaskan Bloggers agree, so? How about an ETHICS charge - he seems to be implying this needs to be INVESTIGATED.

Alaskan Bloggers: Your 15 mins of fame is up. Move on, jerks.

JeanA September 9, 2009 12:01 PM  

I would say Gov. Palin is being taken very seriously by the SRM as someone the people are listening to.

That is why nutroots are in panic mode.

I am looking forward to what October brings.

Somebody should tell The nutroots that Gov. Palin has plenty of time on her hands now and she plans to make good use of it.

militantfeather September 9, 2009 12:09 PM  

baboonking said...
btw this article from michael wolff is very interesting and perfect for this post:

http://tinyurl.com/klhtmq

************

Good find. baboonking. A very interesting article, perhaps the only one really worth reading apart from Sarah's WSJ piece itself. Not all flattering of course, but enlightening.

JeanA September 9, 2009 12:10 PM  

Gov. Palin should have put her op-ed in every major newspaper and ObamaDeathcare would have been put to rest for good.

jimr3 September 9, 2009 12:13 PM  

K-Lo @ NRO weighs in on Ambinder:

"Marc is right to say that MSM decision-makers won't resist giving Palin a platform because a) they hate the ideas, original or not, and believe that associating them with her will discredit them (as indeed they will in some circles); b) they want her to be the Republican nominee in 2012 because they are convinced she will fail; and c) she looks much better in a skirt than Eric Cantor. Beyond that, Marc's apparent belief that people need to pass some MSM test of "credibility" before their views can be aired — a completely unbiased test, of course! — is exactly the kind of elitism that Palin effectively plays against."

http://tinyurl.com/lxp8q7

narciso September 9, 2009 12:13 PM  

Michael Woolf, having to concede the Akhanitsa's influence, that had to be a tough blow, for him.

PEC September 9, 2009 12:15 PM  

jeanA - Her Oped is being run and discussed in many newspapers. We just need the GOP to grow a pair and get behind her.


JRs last update is huge. Stop calling her names and Obama on down needs to come out with substance that she is wrong. She backed up her claim. Where is their back up.

kjanlady September 9, 2009 12:20 PM  

Yes and is creased pants also has a big wet spot starting to run down his skinny leg. Hope he uses his depends tonight when he carries his whine and lies to national tv once again. I will not be watching due to my condition, Liar Adversion Syndrome (LAS). However I will count on less afflicted C4Per's reports of this comedy spoof.

I am particularly interested in the Pelosi frozen mask attempts at facial expression and counting the number of blinks. Also, Joe Biden should be interesting - he's always good for a laugh. Please pay attention fellow C4P patriots. We need specific objects of ridicule for tomorrow besides the Text of Obama Lies, Volume 4,521. Also note the color of Obama's tie - red?, blue?, or purple? You know they spend hours upon hours on imagery. Will he have a halo this time? Hoe many Democrats bow to him as he walks in? Do they kiss his ring (it's the Don)? I'd love to see a fly buzz around his extremely large ears - he swats and misses! Wonder if that will get pictures and MSM reports like the fly he killed?

Please let me know what goes on. I'll be watching a rerun of Happy Days.

Anonymoose September 9, 2009 12:23 PM  

The Libs are projecting yet again. Their real problem is, of course, that Dear Leader's speechwriters and TelePrompTer operators and the people who tell him what to think and the people who do the polling for the people who tell him what to think are all failing him. Group fail.

Sheya September 9, 2009 12:35 PM  

But, reading Obama, it's not a leap to believe that the ideas are truly his. Palin has no chops and no experience talking about health care and isn't participating in this debate; the content of her op-ed piece isn't original, and the points are points that Republicans make every day.

This is the reality. Palin has policy credibility problems. Big ones. A few op-eds aren't going to help her.


The ideas are Obama’s? Obama has so far given around 260 speeches about healthcare and he still doesn’t know what the plan is. He keeps on renaming it, rebranding it and yet most Americans have no clue what he’s trying to sell them. Gov, Palin has achieved more with her handful of Facebook notes than Obama has with 260 speeches. Some not agree with Gov. Palin's comments but everyone knows where she stands on the issue, hey Marc maybe you can help us out, where DOES Obama stand on the Health care issue? What’s his plan?

Gov, Palin today has more executive experience than Obama.
Agree with Gov. Palin or not but she has more credibility than the entire house of representatives including the White House combined

You want to take Experience and Credibility, I believe any one at C4P will be ready to take you up on that, including myself.

jimr3 September 9, 2009 12:38 PM  

Almost immediately after Sarah announced her registration, Mark Levin advised his colleagues at NRO, “Palin is running for president, get use to it”. Now I don’t know for sure if she is running for president, although I suspect she may be. But even if she isn’t running, she is going to play a large role on the national political scene. So for the Ambinder’s and Dunn’s of the world, she ain’t going away, “get use to it”!

narciso September 9, 2009 12:38 PM  

K Lo seems to be projecting, it seems that the braintrust didn't take kindly to her ideas, until they could appropriate them, Eric Cantor, when's the last time we've
seen him, around.

Sheya September 9, 2009 12:43 PM  
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Sheya September 9, 2009 12:44 PM  

I don’t care whether Sarah Palin writes her columns or not, who cares? What difference does it make who writes it? What matters is who takes responsibility for what it says. At least Governor Palin is ready to state what she believes and put her name to it, where to date Obama hasn’t taken responsibility on anything and even his so called Health Care reform his sourced out to congress.

Please give me a break on who’s writing it.

Tommy Report September 9, 2009 12:46 PM  

Palin Re-Enters Health Debate While Quietly Stepping Away from McCain
http://blogs.abcnews.com/george/2009/09/palin-reenters-health-debate-while-quietly-stepping-away-from-mccain.html

JeanA September 9, 2009 12:47 PM  

PEC said...
jeanA - Her Oped is being run and discussed in many newspapers. We just need the GOP to grow a pair and get behind her.
.................
I thought is was only in the WSJ, thinks for the info. That is very good news.

Whitney The Pipsqueak September 9, 2009 12:52 PM  

The article posted on CNN about her WSJ piece is surprisingly decent. Of course, it is mostly quotes from the article, so that would account for the decency.

CharterOakie September 9, 2009 12:57 PM  

Joshua,

Deliciously scathing response. Nice job!

The Denali Fox suddenly surfaces behind enemy lines in the middle of Bo-Wash elitist territory and tosses a grenade into the DNC/Obama war room.

Of course there's wild and angry return fire.

But she's already back in her lair planning and rearming.

Hehehe.

Of course she has people able and willing to consult, advise and assist. But it's her writing because it goes out with her signature.

End of discussion, morons.

Sheya September 9, 2009 1:03 PM  

They just said on Fox that Obama is still working on the speech, Of course after Sarah’s Op-Ed.

JeanA September 9, 2009 1:06 PM  

They mean the teleprompter is working on the speech.

Art Telles September 9, 2009 1:06 PM  

These Guys Are Playing For Keeps...

Joshua, as
wisetrog said...

Smack him, smack him hard.

Your comments today (The Ambinder Amendment (Updated)) reminds me of Rush Limbaugh when he responds with both barrels to those who impugn him for whatever reason.

As Glenn Beck has been saying about the Obama administration and the constitutional end run around House and Senate oversight of 35+ advisers/czars,

> > > 'these guys are playing for keeps'... < < <

... and we must respond aggressively... immediately... or else an America that is 'nudged' (think Sunstein) further left into a collectivist dependency re: 'public option' (i.e. 'gov. option') health care, the 'green' environment, FCC and free talk, etc., will be a formidable collectivist state entity that even a died-in-the-wool free market, free enterprise individualist like Sarah will be unable to correct... similar to Reagan's attempt re: the Dept. of Education.

That is not alarmist rhetoric... these guys are definitely playing for keeps... because, in my opinion, Barack Obama has a 'Lenin wanna be' self image... that's why he magnetically draws people like self-proclaimed marxist/communist Van Jones and Hugo Chavez acolyte Mark Lloyd into his inner circle.

And, of course, my opinion is based on that unimpeachable historian and commentator, Hugo Chavez who publicly cautioned Fidel Castro that they would soon be to the Right of Obama if he continues to 'transform' America.

PEC September 9, 2009 1:07 PM  

jeanA - What papers often do is look at such opeds and have them in their papers. Often times it is just on-line. Of course that is as important if not more important than the actual newspaper. Outside of Sunday coupons, Newspapers are dead.

Mia September 9, 2009 1:07 PM  

I was in SF last week on business..I have a very good friend...who happens to be gay...Through the years we have bantered back and forth with each other...BO BO is his man and Pukelosi and DI are his b*tches...I'm quoting him...and of course... Palin is a Whack Job...
Last week he asked me a very serious question...
Mia...Where do you think the health care bill stands on... HIV?

KentonAK September 9, 2009 1:08 PM  
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Sheya September 9, 2009 1:10 PM  

Cong. Boustany’s response to Obama’s speech will be on the theme of Common Sense Reform.
Gov. Palin is Gov. Palin is controlling the debate.

PEC September 9, 2009 1:12 PM  

Whitney - I noticed that about CNN. Very little of their normal snide comments trown in.
Oh and you can tell her OPed was very well written. No substance to counter it just the normal (just is too dumb to write this, she is a quitter etc).

Oh I bet Peggy Noonan is getting wee-weed up that Sarah's OPed is getting more review then hers in the paper she works for. Sorry Peggy, accept the fact you are a has been.

PEC September 9, 2009 1:13 PM  

mia - You should have told him Death Panel.

kjanlady September 9, 2009 1:13 PM  

New AOL Poll

Do you plan to watch Obama's speech?

No 62%
Yes 38%
Votes: 5879

How much of an impact will his speech have on people's opinion on health care reform?

None 65%
A Little 20%
A Lot 15%
Votes: 5681

Why Obama cannot sell healthcare?

American Thinker

]"Obama's Dog of a Health Care Message" by Sammy Benoit

Toki De La Vega September 9, 2009 1:33 PM  

O/T

Did you know that Dr. Phil Munger is world famous for his seven-movement cantata written in tribute to a pancake?

bestbud September 9, 2009 1:40 PM  

Funnier by the lunacy?

Hilarious... Isn't It? That not so grand College?... That not so grand Hockey Mom?... with That not so grand Degree?
Funny how... That Education!... That Lady!... That JOURNALISM degree!... Together Have become a LETHAL ASSAULT WEAPON!

SARAH sees the Target and Knows how to use her weapon of choice... She is shredding the Target to Pieces.

Bless her pea pick-en Heart.

Lipstick September 9, 2009 1:40 PM  

Well it seems Palin has struck a nerve.

You know she kicked tail with this piece when all the left can say is.."but, but she did not write it."

Must be good truth then.

Palin wrote this. I am sure she had advisors help her with editing and proofing, gee, she would be dumb not too. Even in a freshman English class you teach about peer review of your work.

An excellent point I had not thought of is that Palin does have some type of staff in place that is quite good. It is risky to send out these FB posts and op-eds where they can be combed over with a fine tooth comb. Apparently everything is top notch, hence the "oh, she did not write it" bull.

Hey boys, put on your big boys panties and a nice solid cup and attack Palin on her POINTS. on the SUBSTANCE of her writing. Anyone up for it?

Sheya September 9, 2009 1:42 PM  

The expectations for tonight’s speech are so high that IMHO I don’t think it will make much of a difference. Unless he says something like, “I have read Gov. Palin’s Op-Ed and must admit I agree with her on some level I have therefore decided to ask VP Biden to resign and will be nominating Gov. Palin to take his place “ there will be no game changer and I predict his numbers will fall after the speech.

katiejane September 9, 2009 1:46 PM  

It's funny to read the Left whine about how Palin coudn't have written these pieces because she's "too stupid, too whacked, too empty headed."

And this from the same people who wax poetic about how great Obama's speeches are? Found this link in the comments over at HA - http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/jan/20/barack-obama-inauguration-us-speech

Obama inauguration: Words of history ... crafted by 27-year-old in Starbucks

..... As a result, last November when Favreau sat down to write the first draft of the inaugural address, he could conjure up his master's voice as if an accomplished impersonator.

That skill had been put to almost daily use in the 18 months of brutal campaigning on the presidential trail. Favreau would be up most nights until 3am, honing the next day's stump speeches in a caffeine haze of espressos and Red Bull energy drinks, taking breaks to play the video game Rock Band. He coined a phrase for this late-night deadline surfing: "crashing".

He crashed his way through all Obama's most memorable speeches. He wrote the draft of one that helped to turn Iowa for Obama while closeted in a coffee shop in Des Moines. For the presidential election, he wrote two speeches: one for a victory, one for defeat. When the result came through, he emailed his best friend: "Dude, we won. Oh my God."

.....

Favreau then went away and spent weeks on research. His team interviewed historians and speech writers, studied periods of crisis, and listened to past inaugural orations. When ready, he took up residence in Starbucks in Washington and wrote the first draft. The end result will be uttered on the steps of the Capitol........

Toki De La Vega September 9, 2009 1:46 PM  

This is the guy behind the TOTUS-

http://tinyurl.com/n8z2hj

Barry knows talent when he sees it.

Toki De La Vega September 9, 2009 1:54 PM  

From AOSHQ-

Gee, I Guess It Scared Them: Lefties Unite In Praising Sarah Palin's WSJ Editorial, By Claiming Sarah Palin Couldn't Have Written It

Bill in Baltimore September 9, 2009 1:54 PM  

Piper does the final review

:-)

Nancy September 9, 2009 2:09 PM  

Wow! So many great comments! C4P is on fire today!

TJohnsonEE September 9, 2009 2:11 PM  

The huntress...

She takes her time....

She knows her quary...

She picks her weapon and ammo carefully...

She lies in wait backed up into her FaceBook lair...

She pulls the trigger just in time for 'Bama's speech!

JeanA September 9, 2009 2:11 PM  

99% of the post at FOXNATION are positive. There are 2 trolls.

Jana11 wrote this at FOXNATION:

For those that doubt that Ms. Palin wrote this editorial let me assure you that as a former employee of Ms. Palin and a still current employee of the Dept of Transportation of the great state of Alaska, this woman is fluent in technical writing, articulated and a skilled researcher. Her strong background is in the field of energy, oil and gas leases, city engineering and fiscal budget and tasking. I've seen several samples of her writing and while some may buy into the attack on Ms. Palin's intellect, let me say that while she did not metriculate from an Ivy League institution of learning...she did put herself through school, has worked several service oriented jobs, was a sportscastor and sports writer w/ a journalism degree, ran a commercial fishing business with her husband, has been a city councel person, a mayor, chaired on the Oil and Gas Conservation Commission. As governor she has saved Alaskan's millions but took a chunk by getting hit with ethics complaints and due to her fiscal conservative pro-active attitude refused to cost Alaskans any more of their tax money and so resigned. So piss off all of you who say she isn't smart enough. She's more than just smart. She's also caring, conserned and honest. I know. I live here and if she weren't...don't you think that those out to get her would have found something by now?

Whitney The Pipsqueak September 9, 2009 2:15 PM  

In light of the absence of any substantive critique of Gov. Palin's op-ed, I would like to quote Margaret Thatcher yet again. This quote could apply to Gov. Palin in pretty much any situation:

"I always cheer up immensely if an attack is particularly wounding because I think, well, if they attack one personally, it means they have not a single political argument left. "

Dan C September 9, 2009 2:18 PM  

Tammy Bruce praising Sarah now about the op ed.

http://talkstreamlive.com/talk_radio/tammy_bruce.stream

jimr3 September 9, 2009 2:21 PM  

JeanA @ 2:11,

Thanks for sharing the homerun comment by Jana11 at FoxNation. It is worthy of a C4P post.

PEC September 9, 2009 2:21 PM  

whitney - Bingo. And I don't want to hear "Death Panels" is not true. It is going to take solid research on the information that Sarah researched, counter with the same research not just hopey, hopey, changy, changy, changy rhetoric.
If he says Death Panels is not in there then tell me what all the "Death Panel" can do and what limits do they have. If he says abortions will not be funded then write it in the bill. If he says it is not a beauracracy then take me to the DMV and show me where they are a well run organization.

manajordan September 9, 2009 2:22 PM  

Joshua,
Well done. It is unsurprising that the Progressives so often use these kinds of tactics.

Mia,
The question on HIV is pretty poignant. I've lost an extended family member to AIDS and have another one who is suffering through it still. If you want to know how government run healthcare will treat HIV see how medicare treats it now. My family members had a heck of a time getting services for it, because there was so little sympathy. Medicare covers HIV treatments nearly as well as it covers everything else, in other words it sucks.

bestbud September 9, 2009 2:23 PM  

Whitney, thanks I had not read that comment by Thatcher... absolutely applies to Sarah's critics.

TJohnsonEE September 9, 2009 2:24 PM  

Speaking of how Obama doesn’t write his own stuff and depends on TOTUS for survival. What is Bill Ayers doing these days?

http://www.cashill.com/natl_general/did_bill_ayers_write_1.htm

PEC September 9, 2009 2:26 PM  

Didn't I read on here that the Republican response is going to be on common sense? Sarah is setting the tone for the GOP. Now don't expect her to get the credit for it, but the GOP is slowly learning who their leader is. Now if they could just move as fast as the Ordinary Barbarians.

AmeriCuda September 9, 2009 2:26 PM  

K Lo's passive agressive garbage is getting old. She just HAD to re-print those Ambinder/Dunn lies
to sort-of, kind-of, not really refute what they are saying, while, at the same time, offering it up on a platter to the NRO audience (just in case they missed it). How a person can be so utterly transparent and yet green with envy is the most interesting thing about her.

Whitney The Pipsqueak September 9, 2009 2:33 PM  

Looks like Obama is going discuss Gov. Palin's op-ed tonight:
http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0909/White_House_talking_points_blast_Palin.html

Greg September 9, 2009 2:37 PM  

I've read Gov. Palin's polar bear op/ed, and most, if not all, of her op/ed published in AK on the top of energy, stimulus, etc.. I'm no expert, but I'd say they were all written by the same person.

Toki De La Vega September 9, 2009 2:37 PM  

Unfiltered Obama-

Under water grottos, caverns

Filled with apes

That eat figs.

Stepping on the figs

That the apes

Eat, they crunch.

The apes howl, bare

Their fangs, dance,

Tumble in the

Rushing water,

Musty, wet pelts

Glistening in the blue.


Put that in your dollar bill and snort it!

Nancy September 9, 2009 2:42 PM  

Blast away, President.
Your aim is horrible.
You are shooting at a moving target.
You'll have to find her, amongst the millions of Americans who stand with her.
She is more savvy than you.
She is smarter than you.
She is stronger than you.
She has more stamina than you.
It's difficult to shoot while you're all wee-weed up.
And your holding a squirt gun.

bpk1300 September 9, 2009 2:46 PM  

something on hillbuzz.org

http://hillbuzz.org/2009/09/08/sarah-palin-does-it-again-this-time-not-on-facebook-but-in-the-wall-street-journal/

great lines on what sarah is doing!!!

TSM Admin September 9, 2009 2:48 PM  

Whitney: So, let me get this straight. Obama's speech tonight is the "Democratic Response", right?

Whitney The Pipsqueak September 9, 2009 3:10 PM  

TSM Admin,
Yep, Sarah Palin preemptively addressed the nation before President Obama had the chance to present his Obamacare re-run

Amanda K September 9, 2009 3:14 PM  

narciso said...

"Michael Woolf, having to concede the Akhanitsa's influence, that had to be a tough blow, for him."


========

Should we send flowers? :)

AmeriCuda September 9, 2009 3:50 PM  

I like Michael Wolfe. He is a living, breathing cartoon of left-wing, Manhattan elitism, and yet, as a celebrated contrarian he loves to stick it to his own by occasionally propping up one of their foes.
At least he's intellectually honest, or at least sincere.

John Galt September 9, 2009 4:23 PM  

1. Gov Palin wrote the op-ed. She may have had some research help but the style is definitely hers.

2. Conservatives and Independents need to realize that for the radical left the U.S. Constitution means nothing other than something to use in their favor when they think it suits them.

They are only really interested in power, sex and money in that order.

KentonAK September 9, 2009 4:43 PM  

After attending many live speeches by Sarah since 2006 (along with viewing dozens of video speeches/appearances,etc) I can say with unequivocal certainty that the WSJ op-ed piece was 100% written by Sarah
Sarah has a style and manner of expressing herself that's easily identifiable.

In fact this op-ed was quintessential Sarah at her finest.

And fear this Democrats and Obama:
You ain't seen nothing yet!

bestbud September 9, 2009 5:35 PM  

Gov. Palin wrote her WSJ op-ed! ... period, end of speculation!

Come-on!... How can anyone think for one minute- anything otherwise. Think about It!... she referred to a Journalists code of ethics before in describing the MSM-It's her Degree for Gods sake, and if we believe anything of Sarah... It's she is Honest-To-A-Fault.

Sarah would never!,.. never!,.. never!... did I say never?... jeopardize her cherished Reputation and Honor... It simply is not in her DNA!

Think about It in these terms, if not convinced...
Look at what scrutiny, scurrilous or other wise, Sarah has been through-one slip of the pin would doom her,... 100 hundred fold the wrath and disgrace!

Azteca September 9, 2009 7:43 PM  

As I remember, she immediately took the media on in her RNC debut, in responding to their immediate attack on her and her children in a matter of hours, after McCain announced her. They chose the fight, they just chose it with the wrong gal.

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