Wednesday, October 28, 2009

CNN takes long, hard look at its own poll and finds the headline it wants



The headline of today's CNN/Opinion Research Corporation poll will undoubtedly give the deeply tiresome Allahpundit the excuse he's looking for to launch into another one of his "moderate" anti-Palin tirades (I know, it hasn't been published yet, but I'm pretty confident he's typing one out as we speak). As part of our 'Get your retaliation in first' service, here are some facts AP is unlikely to mention:

  • The poll actually shows Palin regaining her footing. Her approval rating is now 42 percent, up 3 percent compared to the previous poll. Unfortunately, since 'Palin's approval rating rebounds' doesn't make for the kind of headline the CNN news crew were looking for, they decided against using this one.
  • In a matchup of the main Republican contenders, Palin comes in second - 7 percent behind Huckabee, but 4 percent ahead of Romney (and 20 percent ahead of Pawlenty). Palin's score is up 5 percent compared to the last poll taken before her resignation, in early June. Obviously, 'Palin still well placed for GOP nomination, now scoring higher than before her resignation' didn't qualify either, so that one was also quickly discarded.
  • On a whole range of personal qualities, Gov. Palin posts very healthy positive scores. She's considered 'not a typical politican' by 65 percent (65-34), 'a good role model for women' by 64 percent (64-35), 'caring about the needs of people like you' by 56 percent (56-43), and 'honest and trustworthy' by 55 percent (55-43). In a 50-50 nation like today's America, even her scores for 'shares your values' (49/49), 'agrees with you on issues you care about' (48-50) and 'is a strong and decisive leader' (47-51) were pretty decent. The only one that stands out negatively ('qualified to be president') is the one she can't really do anything about - well, not until she announces whether she intends to run for president. Until she does, most people will simply not see her through that lens, meaning her score is likely to remain relatively low. Given CNN's overall agenda, is it any suprise that they decided on this one for their headline?

Full details of the poll can be found here, with the CNN press release here. Oh and Allahpundit's anti-Palin hit piece will be up in about twenty minutes here.

141 comments:

Dan C,  October 28, 2009 1:35 PM  

for 65% to say not typical politican, thats really good in todays climate. Also, 64% say good role rodel for woman also good. If she can get 50% womans vote, she wins.

PEC,  October 28, 2009 1:36 PM  

Same analysis I came up with when I saw the poll.  I did a little research and her #s are quite similar to Obama's in mid to late 2007.  Unforunately we know how that turned out.  All she has to do is come out sharp on issues and qualification will go up sharply.

Whitney the Pipsqueak,  October 28, 2009 1:37 PM  

CNN, what about this poll?

http://mediadecoder.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/10/26/cnn-drops-to-last-place-among-cable-news-networks/

yogi41,  October 28, 2009 1:39 PM  

Hot Air already has it up in headlines, along with 2 other negative pieces about Palin (Levi and the Ziegler/Olbermann feud over Palin). I'm sure it will move to the main post soon, along with that winking photo of her that Allahpundit thinks is funny to use.

TangledThorns,  October 28, 2009 1:44 PM  

Haha, thats cold!

Nancy,  October 28, 2009 1:44 PM  

Joshua,
Great takedown! Thank you!:)

KeeleyH,  October 28, 2009 1:45 PM  

Those are actually very positive poll numbers. Of course CNN will never allow an headline that reads "64% View Sarah Palin as Good Role Model for Women" or "Majority View Sarah Palin as Honest and Trustworthy".

As for the Qualified to be President category, it goes back to what techno called "Legitimization". That will come if and when Sarah throws her hat into the ring and gets down to business. It will take a long and hard campaign for her to become legitimized. That's the way it will be, and that was the way for Obama.

ladydawnelle,  October 28, 2009 1:46 PM  

LOL @ the headlines that DIDn't make it!!  cute!
My question really is - if they ask is ANyone qualified to be Pretzeldent

I would ask - as compared to WHO(m)  cuz THEIR punk and the one before him don't hold a CANDLE compared to Sarah on ALL levels.  If they were at ALL honest!  So really aren't we ALL qualified!  If BO and GW pretended to be - why can't we?  lololol

Nancy,  October 28, 2009 1:47 PM  

CNN is filled with people that would find the Jeopardy! buzzer complicated.

ladydawnelle,  October 28, 2009 1:49 PM  

grrrrrrrrrr on some women

if women would for ONCE        FOR ONCE    stand up for their own
too many still wear that coward sweater w/chicken shoes

latinchic,  October 28, 2009 1:59 PM  

I just want to throw this out there, let me know what you think.

Maybe we should also consider that her numbers may run parrallel to Obama's numbers in the sense that.....people may be starting to get so disgusted with Obama's clear inexperience and ignorance and chalk it up to his being young, that this may affect the way they view Palin because she's young also.  (Obviously I think she'd do a great job, but perception is clearly reality in America.)

In other words, in 2012 America may be ready for.....say, Fred Thompson.

?

JeanA,  October 28, 2009 1:59 PM  

CNN, ABC, NBC, and CBS all work together so this could explain why CBS brought out their favorite pimp.

jimr3,  October 28, 2009 2:00 PM  

"Oh and Allahpundit's anti-Palin hit piece will be up in about twenty minutes"
Ole Allah has it already posted in the headlines.  Allah is just positively giddy today posting every piece of negative news on Sarah.  I guess she was just getting way too much good press over the last couple of days for him to leave left unanswered.

manajordan,  October 28, 2009 2:02 PM  

I despise the mainstream media.

This was a great takedown Joshua. AP is incredibly predictable.

Anonymous,  October 28, 2009 2:06 PM  

Joshua, do you know Allahpundit or what?!
Headline up at HotAir now "71% see Palin as unqualified to be President"
What is his problem?!
And "deeply tiresome" doesn't begin to describe him, but I love it!

BTW, not only does AP use that winking "You betcha" picture to death, but the other one of Sarah that he loves is her in that (hideous) brown-striped jacket, the only outfit I dislike that I've seen Sarah wear.
There are hundreds of wonderful pictures of Palin out there by now, can't he give her and us a break?!?

Nancy,  October 28, 2009 2:07 PM  

Other headlines you won't see:

Mitt Romney Goes Rogue: Doesn't Put Pomade In Hair

Newt Gingrich Leads Overflowing Stadium In Chants of DeDe!

President Obama Misses Tee Time; Says Meeting with General McCrystal Too Important

AKReport,  October 28, 2009 2:08 PM  

She is gaining on huckabee

AKReport,  October 28, 2009 2:09 PM  

she's up to 25% from 18% in rassmussn?

ladydawnelle,  October 28, 2009 2:14 PM  

hahahha that just went up on my facebook as someone put that poll up there as well - hahahaha!  it gives me quite a chuckle to toss this ball out!

ladydawnelle,  October 28, 2009 2:15 PM  

ROFLOL Nancy! 

ladydawnelle,  October 28, 2009 2:17 PM  

HA on the last one!  for SURE we'll NEVER EVA see that one!

Nancy,  October 28, 2009 2:19 PM  

Other headlines you won't see:

Keith Olbermann Sees The Light; After Removing Lips From Obama Administration's Butt

Joe Biden Welcomes National Spelling Bee Winner To The White House; Spelling Bee Winner Is Quoted as Saying: That guy is an incredible speller!

riley4palin,  October 28, 2009 2:21 PM  

SNL just finished fact checking this CNN poll and has some additional internal polling results. 

Who with a brain trusts CNN with real facts or 2012 Presidential polling results?

MSNBC:  99%
ABC:  97%
CBS:  95%
FoxNews:  2% (Shepard Smith skewed these results past the zero mark).

OldDude,  October 28, 2009 2:22 PM  

Great job on headlines that didn't make it.  Reading the comments on the CNN page shows serious PDS.  Loved the one that said "She's a celebrity that pals around with terrorists"!  What a maroon!

Nancy,  October 28, 2009 2:22 PM  

riley,
LOL! That is awesome! Love it!

Windsor,  October 28, 2009 2:25 PM  

Allah is a Beta Male....strong women who can handle their guns and their men scare the hell out of him.  ;-)

Nancy,  October 28, 2009 2:27 PM  

Other headlines you won't see:

Obama Asked Why He Only Plays Basketball With His Butt Kissers; Obama Immediately Invites Hillary Clinton To Play Basketball With Him

happymullah,  October 28, 2009 2:27 PM  

The numbers are not all that bad.

Especially that 2/3rd says she's a good role model for women.
Majority believes she's honest and trustworthy. How many politicians today can claim that ?

As for "not qualified to be president", there are many who scored even lower but went on to become president, including Ronald Reagan.

I also think there's SEXISM involved.  We've never had a woman president, plus her youth makes her seemed to be inexperienced in eyes of many older traditional folks.

But Sarah will well.

Once she's nominated as the presidential standard bearer, the event would be so momentous, not just here but across the world, that the accomplishment of becoming the FIRST presidential nominee of a major party will enhance her stature ten-fold and make even her most skeptical naysayers acknowledge her HISTORIC feat.


VIVA SARAH !

Bill in Baltimore,  October 28, 2009 2:29 PM  

Allahpundit does it for the ratings, no ?

ladydawnelle,  October 28, 2009 2:30 PM  

I'd like to think she would NOT show up

sigh - I read a globe cover at the grocery this day and it says Hillary has some terrible illness she is suffering -  we all laughed at the globe when they said Edwards was having an affair - turned out to be true - I really don't want to think of Hillary being ill cuz w/out her up there the place will really fall away - at least Hillary loves her country (I do believe that)

Windsor,  October 28, 2009 2:30 PM  

Allah likes to draw traffic to his posts and he knows that the negative Palin pieces draw us all there so we can wail and gnash teeth over it.  He knows she is a threat to his RINO sensibilities and I get a chuckle out of it every single time.  What's awesome is that most of the comments are very favorable to Governor Palin and most regular HotAir readers know he is full of a lot of "hot air" (pun intended) when it comes to the Governor.

Bill in Baltimore,  October 28, 2009 2:31 PM  

AKReport,

read your post too quick, thought it said "She is going on Huckabee('s show)"

- Whew ! (for now)

Anonymous,  October 28, 2009 2:31 PM  

You've got ol' Allah nailed, all right. :-)

(BTW, I cannot figure out why this site keeps calling me "Guest" when I log in with my name and Blogger/Google account.)

xax,  October 28, 2009 2:31 PM  

I'm sorry but if Bob the "Yes We Can" Builder can be president..... hehehehe

I'm just being mean.

AKReport,  October 28, 2009 2:32 PM  

Sarah just needs to give policy interviews, and win debates, and that number will rise.

ladydawnelle,  October 28, 2009 2:34 PM  

and maybe all this "seasoning" will be good for her and US as they will have plenty of time to VET whomever is left that has NOT talked UP or down our Sarah!  No Rev Wrights hiding in any closets (I hope)  or if not CIC perhaps she could be some AMbassador to the UN or something!  She's worthy of so much.  A bit like Shirley Temple Black (imo)

Recovering Democrat,  October 28, 2009 2:34 PM  

In fairness, Sarah is not standing up for one of her own in NY-23 ... I think that while she can inspire women and is a good role model, Sarah should not automatically hope to appeal to women simply because of her gender. That's not what conservatism is about. Women should support Sarah because Sarah stands up for the right things, for American independence and strength. I know that's how I feel as a woman.

And I think her upside with women is VERY huge. Because Hillary benefited from the support of those who didn't agree with EVERYTHING she stood for but many things. After Mitt Romney bowed out of the primaries, I turned my support to Hillary, whom I had been following favorably over the prior year.

Sarah will never capture the hard-left feminists, obviously. But the squishy middle of moderate Democrat women are definitely up for grabs.

Indemind,  October 28, 2009 2:36 PM  

CNN Dead Last In Cable News....State Run Media
Sarah's on the RISE...Who Know?  We Did.

sarah rocks 2012

PEC,  October 28, 2009 2:36 PM  

It is something that what Allah put up was predicted an hour or so prior exactly what he would say.

Nancy,  October 28, 2009 2:37 PM  

Other headlines you won't see:

Obama Is Asked Why He Only Plays Basketball With His Butt Kissers; President Immediately Invites Hillary Clinton To Play Basketball With Him

Joe Biden Wins Celebrity Jeopardy!; Makes Late Comeback After Figuring Out Complicated Buzzer!

Recovering Democrat,  October 28, 2009 2:37 PM  

What are you talking about? I LOVE the brown jacket!

ladydawnelle,  October 28, 2009 2:40 PM  

trust me I was  hard left - or had convinced myself that I was

I think there are a LOT of those - or were - perhaps we've left the looney left by now but man oh man I used to proudly call myself a Left handed lefty.  Then the world flipped.  what a ride.

Doug Brady,  October 28, 2009 2:40 PM  

Great takedown of the state run media's spin on this poll.

jimr3,  October 28, 2009 2:40 PM  

Bill,

Ha! I thought that too when I first read it!  Made me do a double take!

debtstar,  October 28, 2009 2:41 PM  

Without face time on any show. Promising.

PEC,  October 28, 2009 2:42 PM  

Bingo.  Same with Sarah.  Her likables are good so all she needs to do is show she is rehearse on the subject with her (not McCains) platform and she will be fine.

ladydawnelle,  October 28, 2009 2:42 PM  

they'd make me get down and give them 20 (push ups) if I EVER called my weapon a GA ga ga Gun.........  it still rarely comes out of my mouth!  LOL  gotta love the U.S. Army!  ooorah!

PEC,  October 28, 2009 2:46 PM  

The difference is Sarah can run as a true out of the Beltway person.  Obama talked change but had no record to show that he ever bucked the establishment.  The same cannot be said of Sarah.  People in America as things get worse will increase in distrust and hatred of the Baltwayers also they will get tired of you have to be an Ivy Leaguers (we have tried that for 24 years).  Sarah will run on Common Sense.  If America wants another egghead that is out of touch then yes Sarah is in trouble, but I think America is drifting from that. 

Tommy Report,  October 28, 2009 2:46 PM  

I'll dissent a little bit from Josh's post.  I don't think the headline from the poll is unfair.  However, CNN dropped the boat on one point:

Nowhere did CNN cite its June poll.  It only cited its February poll.  Palin and Huckabee have both actually gained since the June poll, suggesting that Newt's voters are Palin and Huckabee voters.

ladydawnelle,  October 28, 2009 2:47 PM  

rut roh!  so who are you under that guest sheet?  lol

Tommy Report,  October 28, 2009 2:48 PM  

CNN was also fair in noting that she polled very well on the personal characteristics questions.

Here's the key number in my opinion: 56% believe she cares about people.  We always get killed on this question.

"Sarah Palin has one advantage that many past Republican candidates have not shared - Americans think she cares about people like them."

Recovering Democrat,  October 28, 2009 2:49 PM  

Not to be nitpicky ... but I wanted to point out for Joshua and others, that reporting percentage gains in polls requires more precise language. I am no math major, but my first business editor ripped on me when I got this wrong, so I share as someone who has made similar mathematical errors.

Example:

If Sarah's poll goes from a 40% approval to a 43% approval, that is not a 3 percent gain. It is a 3 percentage point gain. There is a subtle but big difference.

A percentage point describes the move in raw points. A percent describes the move in fractions when compared to the base number.

So, a 3-point move, in this case, is a 7.5 percent increase in favorability ([43-40] 40 *100). If Sarah were to have a 10-point move, it would be a 25% increase in her support.

It really just boils down to this. Learn to use the phrase "percentage point" rather than percent when referring to poll movement. Nobody cares about the underlying "percent change." 

This public service announcement brought to you from a journalist who has seen dozens of journalists botch this math-related reporting skill.

Kjanlady,  October 28, 2009 2:53 PM  

Last time he did a hit piece and the comments were particularly condemning of him, he did an Obama...whining that he didn't care what his readers thought but but was looking forward to a million hits for his blog.  That's the day I quit reading anything he posts even if it's not about Palin.  Won't give him the satifaction.

Using other people to make yourself look popular is disgusting whether you're a liberal nutjob or a narcissistic Rhino blogger.

Doug Brady,  October 28, 2009 2:53 PM  

Freeped

Bill in Baltimore,  October 28, 2009 2:55 PM  

uh oh, what is up with that ??? (Cheney for KBH) ?

Enrigen,  October 28, 2009 2:56 PM  

I'd rather have a conservative endorsement from Palin rather than a NeoCon endorsement from Cheney any day.

Recovering Democrat,  October 28, 2009 2:58 PM  

Not to be nit picking ... but when reporting polls, it's accurate to use percentage points - not percent.

Example:

Sarah Palin improved her favorability rating by 3 percentage points (not 3 percent)
Sarah Palin now trails Huckabee by 5 points (not 5 percent)

I speak from personal experience on this. My first business editor ripped me to shreds when I got this wrong. Hey, journalists don't take math classes! But what I learned is that a percentage point is a number between 1-100, while a percent compares a number to some kind of base. So, Sarah's gain of 3 points in approval represents a 7.5 percent increase in favorability. (43-40/40 * 100)

So it would be inaccurate to say Sarah trails Huckabee by 7 percent. She actually trails him by 7 percentage points.

This PSA brought to you by an ignorant journalism major looking out for her brothers and sister journalists who make the same mistakes.

jimr3,  October 28, 2009 2:58 PM  

Maybe he just wants to take her hunting or something?

hrh,  October 28, 2009 2:58 PM  

As VP, yep, sounds great to me! :)

hrh,  October 28, 2009 3:00 PM  

So let's stop going over there and giving him his jollies ...

Dan C,  October 28, 2009 3:00 PM  

I hope there are alot more people like you. We will need them to beat the obama/media complex.

Whitney the Pipsqueak,  October 28, 2009 3:01 PM  

Regardless of what you think of Governor Palin as a Presidential candidate, the CNN poll shows that 7 out of 10 Americans don't understand the 2nd article of the Constitution. Qualifications for President are as follows:
   35 or older -check
   natural born citizen- check
   citizen of the US for 14 years or more-check

Indemind,  October 28, 2009 3:05 PM  

jimr3...LMAO

sarah rocks 2012

NY59Giants,  October 28, 2009 3:07 PM  

I'll take at least 2 Cheny rallies vs 1 Palin rally for the number of people who show up.

Am I aiming too low??

JeanA,  October 28, 2009 3:10 PM  

I wonder if that clueless Frum is going to tell Cheney to stay out of the race?

jimr3,  October 28, 2009 3:12 PM  

I hear you Enrigen, but I would also think that the Cheney endorsement will bring in some major money to the KBH campaign with his Texas connections to Halliburton, Kellogg Brown Root, and other major oil and gas producers/contractors. 

PEC,  October 28, 2009 3:14 PM  

Recovering that is good stuff.  Write the CNN Editor and show them that they are clueless.

debtstar,  October 28, 2009 3:15 PM  

Cnn is not a serius news organization anyway.

PEC,  October 28, 2009 3:15 PM  

I would say 4 to 1.  Cheney is smart and has lots of exprerience but is very dry (not considered Darth Vader for nothing.

Western,  October 28, 2009 3:18 PM  

Indeed--an insightful observation.

In my opinion, the Democratic Party mantra for the last 20 years has been that the Republican Party is the party of Wall Street and Greed.

With regard to bread and butter issues, image matters:

1. Pres. George H. Bush (41) was constantly attacked for being "out of touch" by the Clinton campaign in 1992 (remember the 1992 debate when Pres. Bush looked at his watch when debating questions about economic policy and when Pres. Bush failed to "identify" electronic scanner for grocery items).

2. Given Pres. George W. Bush's (43) family lineage and coattails, he was hounded for being out-of-touch with common folks.  Frankly, I sense Mitt Romney has same problem.

By contrast, Sarah's personal background and political rise conflicts with the Democratic/MSM narrative of "Republicans"/conservatives being unable to identify with the common American.

They fear her because she is anti-Establishment and a populist.

GAHanson,  October 28, 2009 3:22 PM  

I'm waiting for the CNN headline:  Palin Book Breaks all sales records for political memoirs, 2 million sold on first day.

Instead they will run:  Palin book bombs, 298,000,000 people don't buy it.

Whitney the Pipsqueak,  October 28, 2009 3:25 PM  

True.

The MSNBC headline will read: "Palin kills trees for profit".

Recovering Democrat,  October 28, 2009 3:28 PM  

Actually, it was our own Joshua ! I was trying to be gentle on him, but I see this all the time. It's a common mistake.

Recovering Democrat,  October 28, 2009 3:29 PM  

LOL ... Vast Majority of Americans Won't Buy Palin's Book

GAHanson,  October 28, 2009 3:31 PM  

I've actually seem people posting comments about how even if all 1.5 million copies are sold, that's nothing compared to the 300,000,000 in the country. Which is true, of course. I always remind them that
0bama's 2 books only sold 1.44 million copies combined, in all formats, hardcover, paperback, and audio, and look where he ended up.
GAHanson,

riley4palin,  October 28, 2009 3:33 PM  

Joe Biden:  I'm going to be honest with you about the Economy.  I may get in trouble with my Boss about this, but that's okay. It's all about three letters....J-O-B-S.  That is my final answer Regis.

Alex Trebek:  Um, Joe, you are playing Celebrity Jeopardy dipshit.

latinchic,  October 28, 2009 3:35 PM  

Excellent Tommy.

GAHanson,  October 28, 2009 3:38 PM  

LIke someone else said, with all the very positive findings: not typical politician, good role model for women (actually, I'd say she is a good role model for men and women), caring, trustworthy, hoest, shares values, etc., I can't figure out how her favorability rating is in the 42 percent range.  If you add all 7 of her scores together, and divide by 7, you come out with an average of 54.8 percent favorable.  I stink at math, so maybe someone who actually knows how this works can explain it.

Tommy Report,  October 28, 2009 3:40 PM  

Techno,

I responded to your post in the open thread regarding poll numbers for moderates/conservatives and the different pollsters between PPP, Gallup, and CNN

riley4palin,  October 28, 2009 3:43 PM  

Wow!  Am I bit surprised about this endorsement of KBH.

Perhaps Dad is starting to lay the ground work and called in some favors for daughter Liz regarding her political future.  Or, KBH supported Cheney when he was in office with Bush and he is returning the favor.

Either way, there isn't anyone in either party today than can draw a REAL American crowd like Gov Palin. 

section9,  October 28, 2009 3:48 PM  

Dad is probably returning the favor for KBH being loyal during the Bush years.

TSM Admin,  October 28, 2009 3:50 PM  

This is indeed interesting!  First, Sarah is on opposites sides with Newt.  Now Dick Cheney.  And we're not out of 2009 yet!

jimr3,  October 28, 2009 3:50 PM  

Here is how CNN is framing the Cheney endorsement of KBH:

Two-term Texas Gov. Rick Perry has already gotten a re-election nod from Sarah Palin, last year's GOP vice presidential nominee. Now primary rival Kay Bailey Hutchison is snagging the endorsement of the man Palin was running to replace.
The Hutchison campaign confirmed Wednesday that former Vice President Dick Cheney - whose low approval ratings might mark him a political liability in most other parts of the country - is endorsing Hutchison's bid, and will raise money for her in Houston on Nov. 17.
Hutchison, who has said she plans to resign her Senate seat but hasn't yet revealed when that might occur, is planning to challenge Perry in next year's Republican primary.
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/10/28/cheney-endorses-hutchison-for-texas-governor/
 
The MSM will try to turn this into a Cheney versus Palin election.  You watch.   

Whitney the Pipsqueak,  October 28, 2009 3:53 PM  

What do the Texans feel about this? Lipstick? Others?

TSM Admin,  October 28, 2009 3:56 PM  

Show's how you can look at something quick, and get real excited - only to be let down.  The other day TV ratings showed CNN at bottom.  Then I saw first part of this headline "CNN takes long, hard look at it's own..", and I thought, "Oh, they have finally woken up and are doing some serious assessment of their News Organization."  Oh, well!

Ha ha!

Recovering Democrat,  October 28, 2009 3:57 PM  

And that is bad for Palin ... how?

First, she's distancing herself from Newt, that man who completely invented the word polarizing figure after he shut down the government in 1995.

Now, she'll get some distance from the man the Left wanted to impeach and try for war crimes against humanity.

It's a win-win for Palin. Ha!

riley4palin,  October 28, 2009 4:03 PM  

That's it!!  I refuse to analyze this CNN/Opinion Research Presidential Poll any longer until Larry King weighs in tonight with special guest OJ Simpson live from his jail cell. 

PEC,  October 28, 2009 4:10 PM  

Oops sorry. Good thing you corrected us ALL on this before we go some place and also are eaten up by a boss. More proof there is talent all over the place on this board because after reading your answer I realized you are correct.

GAHanson,  October 28, 2009 4:12 PM  

right up to election day, 0bama's "qualified to be president" numbers had fluctuated between 44 and 46 percent, and that is after 2 full years of non-stop campaigning, thousands of media cheerleaders, $750 million, and a big dose of white guilt.  So, with Palin being at 27 percent right now, after 14 months of non-stop Palin-bashing, plus the fact that she is not running for anything at this time, I'd say 27 percent isn't that bad. 

It will be really interesting to see a similar poll taken at the end of January or February, after a couple million people having read her book, and probably millions more having read about what is in her book, and the creation of her own political issues PAC, and a number of speaking engagements around the country.  Right now, except for her Facebook postings, and her op/ed in the Washington Post, she's pretty much been out of sight.

Recovering Democrat,  October 28, 2009 4:16 PM  

good one Riley

here's another one:

Answer: Jobs
Biden hits the buzzer: What is a three-letter word?

ha ha ha

PEC,  October 28, 2009 4:17 PM  

Actually with the high trustworthy, role model figures, that is totally contradictory to Favororbility #s.  The qualification # is believable.  Favorable no. 

hrh,  October 28, 2009 4:19 PM  

What do you expect from Americans who would respond to a poll from CNN - "the least respected name in news?" ;)

Nancy,  October 28, 2009 4:20 PM  

Does Cheney live in Texas?
Nancy thinks Dick might be in trouble with Newt!

Nancy,  October 28, 2009 4:21 PM  

LOL! Yikes!

TexMex,  October 28, 2009 4:24 PM  

I'm personally voting for Perry, not because I think he's doing an outstanding job, but because he's done OK and I see no better option i.e. KBH. The Governorship in TX has limited power compared to other States, so it seems our Govs tend to stick around. I'm curious as to why KBH is leaving a sweet Senate seat for a Gov. Her seat is going to be competitive and I'm not sure a Repub is guaranteed to replace her. Additionally, she hasn't given me any real reason to vote for her other than "Perry's been there too long" and "We need something new." Eh...There has been some chatter down here about Gov. Perry replacing personnel on the board that reviews executions. Seems the incendiary charge is we may have executed an innocent man. There may have been some problems with his trial, but from what I've read was guilty and was properly punished. I haven't heard much about it since last month. This Cheney endorsement is interesting. I look forward to seeing Palin down here though. I'm curious when she'll be deployed? I hope she comes to either Fort Worth or Dallas. That would be fantastic and I'll take a hell of a lot of pics for you guys ;) I'm sure Lipstick will too!

tim c,  October 28, 2009 4:25 PM  

What is cnn? I'm down here in Atlanta and never heard of them.

Bill in Baltimore,  October 28, 2009 4:30 PM  

TSM, I think everyone is on the other side of Newt on this one . . . but good point

Nancy,  October 28, 2009 4:31 PM  

Headlines not out of the realm of possibility:

HHS Secretary Sebelius Wins Academy Award For Her Portrayal of Sick Person Coughing Into Elbow

President Obama Wears Nobel Peace Prize Around The White House

Katie Couric: Not So Perky In The Unemployment Line

Bill in Baltimore,  October 28, 2009 4:33 PM  

that's a really good point . . .

Recovering Democrat,  October 28, 2009 4:35 PM  

I sent a note to the editors to correct it.

In a matchup of the main Republican contenders, Palin comes in second - 7 (percentage
points, not percent) behind Huckabee, but 4 (percentage points, not percent) ahead of Romney

and 20 points, (not percent) ahead of Pawlenty). Palin's score is up 5 points (not percent) compared to the last poll taken before her resignation, in early June.

Whitney the Pipsqueak,  October 28, 2009 4:36 PM  

Did you know that Katie Couric cuts her hair ever time her ratings drop? It's a wonder she's not completely bald!

lmg,  October 28, 2009 4:42 PM  

if Hillary loves her country, why is she consenting to be on Obama's team?

ladydawnelle,  October 28, 2009 4:49 PM  

wow

what a low life no good for nada punk azzzzzzzzzzzz  ARGHHHHHhhhhhhhh!

riley4palin,  October 28, 2009 4:49 PM  

BREAKING NEWS.....(serious this time, no joke)

Meg Stapleton has issued statement regarding Levi's appearance on CBS this AM.  I cringed when I saw Norah O'Donnell/MSNBC, but then again, should we be surprised that Norah probably jumped for joy to report this tidbit?

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2009/10/28/2111446.aspx

Note to C4P Editors:  I know you like to ignore this stuff about Levi, so do I, but in my opinion, this is actually Governor Palin's news now.  I think it is fair to discuss this when the Governor brings it up herself.

My opinion:  It is a sad situation that the Palin family has to deal with Levi for the rest of their lives, but they were blessed with a wonderful grandchild.  I am sure their daughter has learned great lessons from this experience.  Life is like that sometimes.  That said, I hope Levi meets the girl of his dreams while posing for Playgirl and the photographer is Lorena Bobbitt's sister. 

PEC,  October 28, 2009 4:56 PM  

I thought she should avoid this.  I wonder if she isn't trying to trap him.  Everything he has said so far is them vs us but if he (and it could easily happen) crosses that line and it can be proven in court then can you say defamation of character.

Bill in Baltimore,  October 28, 2009 4:57 PM  

since this is the active thread, I'll post it here, maybe tonight and tomorrow.

I asked my Reaganite friend "What's up with Newt, sheesh . . . " and I got a very good reply, nothing new, but regardless of the state of the nation, politics is a hard-ball game, no one really gets to the top without going through the minor leagues and it's definitely a team sport.

So here are some of his points, paraphrased:

- Newt has done many good things and those should be studied by any serious person in politics
- His mistakes should also be studied

Major lessons:
- He built up a very strong team of professionals
- He built up outside groups like GOPAC (which was active for a long time)
- He built an infrastructure to train citizens how to run and win
- He got carried away

And some key points I take away from my friend:

- If Sarah doesn't have a strong team, forget it. Even if she wins, without a strong team surrounding her (and who all sign up for the movement), making substantive change is a swan song.

- Winning is the easy part. Governing is the hard part

so, with that all in mind, I think we / Sarah should focus on NOW, 2010, and if things look good, a veteran team with a rookie QB (Sarah) will do fine in 2012.

But the battle is now, and Sarah is fighting.

Bill in Baltimore,  October 28, 2009 5:03 PM  

Levi=evil=vile is just that, disgusting

CBS is a pile of sh**

Enrigen,  October 28, 2009 5:05 PM  

When'd the "like" button show up?  Right on Nancy!

Bill in Baltimore,  October 28, 2009 5:06 PM  

One commenter on MSNBC:
"More Palin distractions to cover up Barack's failures.
The DJIA just dropped 102 points today (10/28)."

So true

Enrigen,  October 28, 2009 5:07 PM  

Isn't Larry King too busy covering Michael Jackson?

riley4palin,  October 28, 2009 5:10 PM  

I don't think anyone of us can really grasp what the Palin family has endured regarding this Levi character.  I completely agree with you that any normal politician should ignore this stuff but, I am with her on this one.

It is one thing to go after Governor Palin herself, but Levi brought up their son this morning and that crossed the line.

I am with her 100% on issuing a statement at this point.

I also agree with you that her attorney is keeping good records of Levi and every single statement he makes publically and will take legal action against him if necessary. 

Last point and only my honest opinion:  Someone got a hold of Levi and is paying him off to make statements to try and destroy the Governor.  He seems very naive and stupid if you ask me to think of this all on his own.  First Vanity Fair, next Playgirl.  This has Dem fingerprints all over it.  I have a feeling that her personal attorney is following the trail and it will lead back to someone. 

Bill in Baltimore,  October 28, 2009 5:11 PM  

It's not really Palin vs. Levi, it's Palin (us) vs. the MSM.

And Sarah is a momma grizzly. And she is right. And Levi is wrong, as is CBS.

- She is fighting for what is right.

MSNBC is more concerned about destroying a woman than they are about terrorism.

narciso,  October 28, 2009 5:13 PM  

That might have been true in 1997, Bill, but frankly this fellow is too charitable. Newt ultimately walked away from many of the conservative principles, and now as part of the Scozzofazza race, is waging war on the base. From supporting the AGW, to flacking for Freddie Mac to the tune of 600,000 dollars

narciso,  October 28, 2009 5:24 PM  

No, I used to think he was naive, but he's a bitter illtempered idiot.

Nancy,  October 28, 2009 5:38 PM  

Nancy thinks it showed up today.?

Nancy,  October 28, 2009 5:38 PM  

Thanks, Enrigen!
Nancy thinks it showed up today.?

Western,  October 28, 2009 5:39 PM  

Levi/CBS news crossed the line when they mentioned Trig.

Avoiding any media statements about Levi would be the norm.

However, when CBS News allowed Levi to make statements about Trig--the line was crossed.

Sarah had to respond.

This is frankly an indictment on the lack of journalistic integrity by CBS News in allowing any individual to make false and misrepresentations about Sarah and her family.

CharterOakie,  October 28, 2009 5:44 PM  

Re: CNN poll, I'm repeating myself: "figures don't lie, but liars figure."

As for Levi......Buchanan's advice is sounding better as time goes by.

johnmd,  October 28, 2009 5:45 PM  

I know that certain things tend to make one mad and one thinks it is important to respond.  But Levi is digging his own grave and the further Sarah stays away the better  any response only fuels the anti Palin groups and they will try to get a cat fight going between  them. A simple not worthy of comment was all that was neccessary IMHO which is worth very little.

ladydawnelle,  October 28, 2009 6:18 PM  

Buchanan as in Pat? What did he say?  He always makes me laugh.  I think I may have even considered voting for him at one time! 

munchnstuf,  October 28, 2009 6:21 PM  

Ahhhhh, Allahpundit! Beta-Boy of the Blogosphere! Poll Watcher Extraordinaire!!

"Mr. Fight-for-a-cause-unless-the-polls-say-it's-impossible" sure does love to rile up us phanatical "Palinistas", doesn't he?

I must say that he's a nice guy, tho. Almost as smart and clever as he thinks he is. But, he's not exactly the kinda guy I'd like with me in a foxhole when the you-know-what hits the fan.

There's only so much beta-ness that I can take from the guy. His Palin "poll" antics are beginning to wear mighty thin. 

terri,  October 28, 2009 6:21 PM  

Oh man, this Levi kid is just a thorn in Sarah's side, isn't he?
I absolutely agree with whomever said that some "bigger player" is supporting this "dingbat".
On one hand I just want to say...pffff the kid's an idiot and nobody cares about or believes what he's got to say.
On the other hand, I lived in Chicagoland back when Obama and his crew were just starting out and will never forget how he got his senetorial seat, was not pretty.
The whole brew-ha-ha over Jack Ryan's divorce papers (should the sealed papers be opened or not), showed the uglinees of Obama and how even back then, he had control over the media (the Chicago tribune).
I'm just saying that this kid should not be taken lightly, because there's major players pulling his "dummy strings".

terri,  October 28, 2009 6:22 PM  

Oh man, this Levi kid is just a thorn in Sarah's side, isn't he? 
I absolutely agree with whomever said that some "bigger player" is supporting this "dingbat". 
On one hand I just want to say...pffff the kid's an idiot and nobody cares about or believes what he's got to say. 
On the other hand, I lived in Chicagoland back when Obama and his crew were just starting out and will never forget how he got his senetorial seat, was not pretty. 
The whole brew-ha-ha over Jack Ryan's divorce papers (should the sealed papers be opened or not), showed the uglinees of Obama and how even back then, he had control over the media (the Chicago tribune). 
I'm just saying that this kid should not be taken lightly, because there's major players pulling his "dummy strings".
It looks like it has Obama's henchmen's hands all over this.

defendAmerica,  October 28, 2009 6:33 PM  

So, I was initially against this statement, though I understood why the Palin's wanted to respond.  THEN, I read in Amanda Carpenter's report on all of this that Levi is going to do part 2 of his interview live tomorrow morning.
Sarah has officially put Levi and CBS on notice and is now defining the questions Levi will be asked.  You know he's gonna have to officially respond to this.
If he insists that it is still true, she has legal grounds to go against him.  This may force him to back off his statement, like he did with the divorce rumors.
If she was gonna respond to him, this is the perfect time.

The pressure is on tomorrow for Levi and CBS!

lmg,  October 28, 2009 6:44 PM  

The real question is: "Is Obama qualified to be President?" And you can take that any of several ways.

lmg,  October 28, 2009 6:47 PM  

One-half of all Americans below average.

lmg,  October 28, 2009 6:57 PM  

Isn't Larry King too busy covering Michael Jackson?

With a shovel?

KeeleyH,  October 28, 2009 8:06 PM  

True about Chicagoland. The only difference in this case is Sarah Palin is no Jack Ryan. Don't ever mess with Mama Grizzly.

Bill in Baltimore,  October 28, 2009 8:38 PM  

I didn't post his entire reply about Newt

CharterOakie,  October 28, 2009 8:41 PM  

lady - yes.  Weeks ago he said that Todd should take levi down to the nearest stream and hold his head under water until the thrashing stops.

Puma.for.Life,  October 28, 2009 9:11 PM  

I thought I was a progressive until this past year.  Supporting Hillary was an eye-opener: I was no longer a progressive by definition.  Hey, I used to listen to Air America Radio and agree with them.  All of a sudden, I am on the opposite side of things.  I realize I have always had a strong Libertarian streak in me.  No way am I going to vote socialism. I have lost most of my friends and my spiritual community; they all drank the kool aide and most are still intoxicated.  It's hard to talk to people about Sarah when they still watch MSNBC and believe everything they hear there.  But, there are a few million people like ladydawnelle and I and I think we can  make a difference if we really stick together on this. 

juju,  October 28, 2009 9:23 PM  

Levi may have recorded the entire interview at one time and anything Sarah had to say to day may not make a difference.

Bill in Baltimore,  October 28, 2009 11:15 PM  

juju, good point about both parts being recorded. But perhaps they will think twice about airing it, or maybe a disclaimer.

What turds, seriously, how do they sleep at night ?

ladydawnelle,  October 29, 2009 2:54 PM  

right ON Sista!!  ;-)

ladydawnelle,  October 29, 2009 2:57 PM  

I have no answers for you.  I am no fan of enablers.  OR HYPOCRITES - I"m not sure if she thinks she can watch the FOX in the HEN house better from INSIDE or whaT?  Cuz I am quite sure she must HATE BHO and all of his INSULTS that band around him!

ladydawnelle,  October 29, 2009 3:00 PM  

pahahahaha!

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