Sarah Palin: Cancer Screenings - Rational Advice or Rationed Care?
Via Governor Palin's Facebook page:
It was a breath of fresh air to finally hear the Democrats admit to their health care bill as “a lot of show and tell and razzmatazz,” (see Democrat talking points, in reference to my book). At least now we’re all on the same page when discussing the problems with their monstrous government health care “reform” plan.
Now, tonight, more disconcerting news – the New York Times reports of new guidelines to scale back cervical cancer screenings. The recommendation from the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists comes on the heels of another recommendation to limit breast cancer screenings with mammograms. There are many questions unanswered for me, but one which immediately comes to mind is whether costs have anything to do with these recommendations. The current health care debate elicits great concern because of its introduction of socialized medicine in America and the inevitable rationed care. We need to carefully watch this debate as it coincides with Capitol Hill’s debate and determine whether we are witnessing the early stages of that rationed care before the Senate bill is rushed through as well.
Another question is why these women-focused cancers are seemingly receiving substandard attention at a time when proactive health and fitness should be the message. Every woman should encourage rigorous debate to ensure that our collective voices are heard. We are paying attention to Washington’s health care proposals, and we want to hear what helps patients the most.
We need answers: Is early screening not saving lives? Why do doctors’ groups disagree? Did costs play any role in these decisions to change the recommendations on breast and cervical cancer screenings? We need assurances that everything we’ve heard this week about fewer tests for women’s cancers is a result of patient-focused research and providing the best care for the right reasons, and not because of bureaucratic pressure to control costs.
Obviously the first thought that comes to mind when hearing of these new recommendations from bureaucratic panels is “rationed care.” It’s fair – and healthy – to ask if that’s what Washington has in mind with a government-controlled takeover of a health care system.
- Sarah Palin






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Another awesome post by the cuda. She is just AMAZING. She goes on book tours all day yet still has the time to post on facebook about deathcare..when does she ever sleep..DOES she ever sleep, that is the question
Should have worked in her death panel snark. I hope she runs with this and makes it stick. This is political gold. As always, she's the first to sense the opportunity whereas Romney and Huck are AWOL.
I think Sarah and Todd each sleep about 4 hours per night. The other 20 are filled. It is a tremendous advantage.
It might be good to post the original paragraph from the talking points.
"<span>“a lot of show and tell and razzmatazz,” (see Democrat talking points, in reference to my book)"</span>
Romney is mia, haven't seen him for months.Huck, no one is going to actually listen to him.Sarah is our voice.But,I know it want help, cause the dems are going to ram it down our throats, no matter what or who is against this deathcare.
Thank goodness Sarah can be a loud voice on this. This is bizarre that now women are being told to forego early cancer screenings all of a sudden.
My first thought was like wisetrog, Governor Sarah s<span>hould have worked in her "Death Panel's" </span>
<span>Then I thought that the more she use's D.P. the lease it is worth.</span>
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<span>sarah 2012</span>
I always heard from Kaiser Permanente (my hospital) that the way to cut costs was preventive care. Catch it early and prevent it was a lot cheaper and conducive to a healthy life.
So cutting down of preventive care for cancer is simply idiotic. Might even increase overall healthcare costs.
IIRC, Obama has been clear. Health reform will save money by spending money to prevent problems and detect problems early, while they can be treated inexpensively.
I would have have thought that cancer screening fits that like a glove.
mmm mmm mmmm
Barack Hussein Obama
(What else is there to say?)
http://news.cincinnati.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/AB/20091119/CINCI/311200004/
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</p><p>Barb Hudson, public relations and event coordinator at Joseph-Beth, said the Palin signing will be "one of the largest" in the store's 16-year history.
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</p><p>"It's comparable to what we had for people like John McCain, Caroline Kennedy and Mike Huckabee," Hudson said.
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</p><p>Huckabee, the former Arkansas governor and Fox News personality, is one of Palin's potential rivals for the 2012 Republican presidential nomination.
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</p><p>While Palin is signing copies of her book here, Huckabee will be in Cleveland and Columbus signing copies of his newest book, "A Simple Christmas."
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</p><p>But before the event at Joseph-Beth comes the morning meet-and-greet.
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</p><p>Hamilton County Republican Party Chairman Alex Triantafilou said he got an invite to the SarahPAC event and will drop by, but said the county party had no official role to play.
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</p><p>"I think she could be a viable candidate for president next time around, but I wouldn't call her the front-runner at this point," Triantafilou said. "We have a lot of good possibilities."<span></span>
</p><p>Before the noon to 3 p.m. sold-out book-signing at Joseph-Beth Booksellers in Norwood's Rookwood Pavilion, SarahPAC, the former Alaska governor's political action committee, is holding a private, invitation-only reception Friday morning with local GOP donors and party leaders at an undisclosed location.<span></span>
</p><p><span></span>But the big event - the one that is likely to clog traffic in and around Rookwood Commons, especially with the nearby Nordstrom Rack store holding its grand opening at the same time - is the session where the former Alaska governor will sign copies of her new book, "Going Rogue."
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Good to hear that some SarahPAC fundraising is going on. Still courious about the new issues PAC, Stand up for Our Nation. I noticed in one article about the book signing in Ft. Wayne that the store was passing out Palin bookmarks that had that slogan on it.
she got her point across without distracting attention by simply saying "death panels", that would diffuse the article, I believe
- she said "bureaucratic pressure"
<span>she got her point across without distracting attention by simply saying "death panels", that would diffuse the article, I believe
- she said "bureaucratic pressure</span>
Sarah, always one step ahead of every other politician in the land...
I am continually amazed by the reserves of energy this woman has. And judging from her book, has always had. This is why I don't understand the detractors who whine that she can't possibly lead the free world and raise a family at the same time. As if we're all exactly the same and because some women couldn't do it (and I freely admit, I'm one who would fold under the stress), no one can. Gov. Palin is unique: She has an incredible support structure AND she's Superwoman to boot -- she can do anything!
I'll tell you what bothers me about this latest "recommendation": It's the second in a week in which screenings for cancers that affect women are being tagged as unnecessary. The unique health concerns and needs of women have traditionally been ignored by the medical community (most testing for diseases is done on men, for example) and this, to me, is a pretty blatant thumb to the nose to us. I don't know who is ultimately responsible for encouraging these recommendations, but I think it's pretty obvious that it's about cost. And if I were an insurance company, I'd probably be looking for places I could cut costs about now too, what with the federal government threatening to put them out of business. Anyone who doesn't believe that this is the first step on the road to rationing ALL care is fooling themselves. These lax screening recommendations will amount to death panels for thousands of women. I guess the governor called it right after all.
So glad she addressed this quickly. Thank you, Sarah!
as a physician, I will disagree with Mrs. Palin on this one.
There is a limit to all things. More medicine is not always the answer.
There is a difference between evidence based medicine based on facts and rationed care based on limited resources.
I think she made a mistake on this one.
sorry :<(
Adrienne!... thanks.... Im still eagerly awaiting college of the Ozarks!
Sarah gives them no cover... those that choose to hide and deceive... like congress!
We all are watching... with very long memories-- and guess what? 2010/2012 are just around the corner.
Well, the problem is they reversed themselves from a different position, six months ago. This seems a deliberate way to avoid the problem, until it is too late, What happened to prevention
and yet....no recommendations on prostate cancer screenings....
narciso,
time matches on.
in my practice, i have tested all the ladies in my practice for human papilloma virus (HPV) and find out who is at high risk. I follow the positive cases carefully, and worry less about the people who are negative.
(How many ladies here have been tested for HPV?)
If we immunize the at risk population, we reduce the risk of developing cancer. And we reduce the need for a Pap smear.
Prevention is not just screening to identify a problem after it starts, but it is also immunization to prevent the problem in the first place.
Change is part of life.
Did you hear that the senate will be voting on the health care bill Saturday night?
<span>http://j.mp/3aZXAR</span>
I hope Sarah writes about this, please, please, please write about this Sarah!
My wife who is one of the most non-political people in the world heard about this (no not from FoxNews as Obama claimed) and was pissed. She called me about this.
This is not good. They don't schedule votes unless they have the votes. We need to do all we can to E-Mail and call the Moderate Dems and Lieberman for them to vote against going forward. This is the fillibuster vote. Some of these Dems will run for cover knowing it will pass and vote no on the actual bill but not allow the fillibuster. This vote is different a yes vote is what we want.
Palin on Dennis Miller is on fire. She is getting stronger and stronger it seems with each interview. Great interview.
She's taking calls on the show and is hit them out of the park. Dennis is great and I hope going forward in addition to her Facebook and Twitter, she uses radio to talk to the people and continue to spread her message. Whether she does so once a week or one hour a day, she will be devastating.
One caller mentioned the whole thing with Chris Mathews who was pointing out the "white only crowd" or monochromatic attack. The caller was hispanic. C4P has to post this interview, her best yet.
Sarah said: ""Another question is why these women-focused cancers are seemingly receiving substandard attention at a time when proactive health and fitness should be the message. Every woman should encourage rigorous debate to ensure that our collective voices are heard.""
Just prior to this, the people on this committee recommended that we stop PSA testing for male prostate cancer at age 75.
These changes are not limited to women alone.
Chris Mathews along with Norah O'Donnel tried to make it seem like the crowds coming out to see Sarah were only white. Palin said on the show that an black man approach her for an interview and said to her " this Obama thing is not working" She commended him for his courage and said that she not looking at skin color. Again good show. The interview was two segments about 12 minutes total. Hope you all get to hear it.
I don't know that death panels apply to cancer screening. I think this is even worse because they are denying you the right to stay healthy.
The death panels were all about denying the sick of care. This is about denying people the right to stay healthy.
Medicine might now always be the answer, but it is an answer. It should be up to the individual whether it is for them or not. Government has no place in the discussion.
not** not now. sorry
You have to read this, it's an article by the 17 year old girl who was badgered by Norah O'Donnell, it's great, maybe worth a thread by itself:
The Day I Met Sarah Palin…and the Liberal Media
http://redwhiteandconservative.wordpress.com/2009/11/20/the-day-i-met-sarah-palin-and-the-liberal-media/
From consvativegrl's Twitter page. She is doing her 2nd signing. This signing is at 6 PM. Line already around the building.
http://twitpic.com/q8cze
see my post on the next page
Well this is certainly in line with the Complete lives system, and totally at odd with Hippocrates. And this is the fate they have designated for us, how to 'bend the curve'
physical exams were "invented" by the government. They started when young men had induction phyicals into the army generations ago and have become a worldwide standard of care.
As I health care researcher I will agree with you Gelston, although I think Sarah has a point that probably wasn't explain as well as it should have been or she was misinformed.
My greater concern are the implications of what the the government task force recommended for mammography. There will be paradigm shifts in treatment recommendations that are do not necessarily mean prohibitive rationing will occur. However, the potentials that lie with such "task forces" is reason to take note. I read the article from the Annals of Internal Medicine that published the mammography recommendations. In my view, their aruguments were not strong enough. The article stated that mortality was reduced 3% by mammography for 40-49 year old women. However, this task force felt that this reduction was not sufficient enough to recommend screening compared to the false positives, anxiety and other factors caused by mammography.
Secretary Sebilius has said that DHHS is not recommending this recommendations. However, what if a government-centered health care passed, and they were looking for ways to cut costs? Could they potentially find support for a certain recommendation regardless of its true validity, adopt the recommendation, and subsquently drop coverage for a certain procedure in order to cut costs? Also, this task force is "independent", but is overseen by the government. There is reason to be cautious in accepting what they say as there is pontential for influence.
I don't say this to be an alarmist. We just must be cognizant of what the potentials are. At the same time, we have to look at this reports rationally ourselves to make sure they are based on strong science. Changes in recommendations and treatments do not necessarily mean rationing will occur.
Huckabee is at a book signing in Denton,Tx and they announced they would be handing out wristbands.....all 250 of them. They still have wristbands available.
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A good piece by S.E. Cupp
http://townhall.com/columnists/SECupp/2009/11/20/palin-hating_101?page=1
+100.
And don't expect it to change. It will be women-centered health care, children-centered, senior-centered and those with disabilities.
<p><span><span><span>Anybody know the URL address for YouTube video that shows Sarah telling Greta that Obama should veto the Stimulus bill?</span></span></span></p>
<span><span><span>Anybody know the URL address for the YouTube video that shows Sarah telling Greta that Obama should veto the Stimulus bill?</span></span></span>
I don't get Miller, so I hope it's up on Youtube later.
Please, someone post an audio of the Miller interview. I am very heartened to hear it went well. In the few times I have recently heard Dennis, he has been dismissive of her as if she were a sideshow act or something.
Because you are a physician, I'm sure you know more about this subject than I do. That being said, I think you need to re-read her posting. The emphasis of her posting is not disagreement with the recommendation, but instead that women should be asking why.
It seems to me that you jumped at assuming that she was taking a position against the recommendation. That's not what she wrote. You said you disagree with her. Are you saying that no one should ask why?
<span>Belston, because you are a physician, I'm sure you know more about this subject than I do. That being said, I think you need to re-read her posting. The emphasis of her posting is not disagreement with the recommendation, but instead that women should be asking why.
It seems to me that you jumped at assuming that she was taking a position against the recommendation. That's not what she wrote. You said you disagree with her. Are you saying that no one should ask why?</span>
<span>Gelston, because you are a physician, I'm sure you know more about this subject than I do. That being said, I think you need to re-read her posting. The emphasis of her posting is not disagreement with the recommendation, but instead that women should be asking why.
It seems to me that you jumped at assuming that she was taking a position against the recommendation. That's not what she wrote. You said you disagree with her. Are you saying that no one should ask why?</span>
Excellent post Whit!
I think Palin took pains not to be alarmist on these (thus her not using the death panel term), but the trend it seems look unmistakeable. Prevention and wellness should be the core of health care in our country, since health care is the responsibility of the individual and not government. These government guidlines, as Palin was right to question, are either out of research evidence or the need to preserve resources. If this need to preserve resources is extrapolated, then it is natural to see the death panels coming about as Palin predicted. This is most likely to occur in a government run, socialized health care scheme, which is being deliberated now in Congress. So I think she struck the proper balance of pointing out a trend and reinforcing her thoughts about the downside risks of socialized medicine. Anything at this point, short of hyperbole, to stop this health care legislation, I will welcome from the Sarah Palin.
This shows what butchers these people are and the tyranny of politically motivated junk science we've been living under. I personally know three women, all 40 or under, who are alive and well today because of mammograms. This was a huge blunder that the MSM will do their best to play down/ignore. You can bet that Michele will get her mammograms.
Great post by Sarah. Her facebook page is a huge advantage for her. Others have to wait until asked about their opinions on issues. Sarah can make her positions known with a type, type, type, send.
Sorry to go off topic, but while I am thinking of it, McCain and the conservative J.D. Hayworth are nearly even: http://tinyurl.com/yhs7oq5
What happens if Hayworth does indeed run and asks for Palin's endorsement???
I'll post this upthread, too. PPP is out and Mike and Mitt have closed the gap between Obama, while Palin trails him slightly more than those 2:
Obama vs Huck: 49 - 44
Obama vs Mitt: 48 - 43
Obama vs Palin: 51 - 43
http://publicpolicypolling.blogspot.com/2009/11/monthly-2012-numbers.html
I must say, though, that I think it's good that her post was more of her suggesting questions that we ponder moreso than giving answers. Sometimes, that is what is needed. I think many of her posts are more to get the American people to think about what is going on rather than to remain intellectually complacent.
I can't get the link but on this link if you go down to A visit with the Palins it is the 4th video down.
http://www.foxnews.com/ontherecord/index.html
To this day Greta likes Sarah. Greta also saw the book for what it is. Telling of Sarah's Character more than anything else. I really see a 2nd (not as popular) but detailed policy book (book still in Sarah's language).
Thanks for that link. It was a fun read. She certainly has her head on straight.
I did a quick scan of the internals. They look weird to me. Looking forward to techno's analysis.
Party split:
Dem -- 41%
Rep -- 33%
Other -- 26%
I can't open the PDF, so I'll have to wait to see what techno and Tommy Report do with this.
Personally, I think she stays with McCain.
I did look at the pdf. FWIW its a survey of 1066 registered voters, has a 3% error, and says weighting and refusals could introduce additional error.
One other thing -- the poll was conducted on the weekend (Nov. 13-15) before any of Palin's TV interviews and prior to the book tour hoopla. Interesting choice of polling time.
Thanks.
OT: Another ridiculous attempt to smear GR at the Publisher's Weekly site: http://www.publishersweekly.com/blog/660000266/post/1340050734.html
It seems little kids don't want to listen to a story time reading of GR. They want "Chicka Chicka Boom Boom." Or something.
But wait, according to the MSM meme, Palin's airhead half a whackjob lightweight no policy book should be perfect for kids, shouldn't it?
Oh, but wait, that other meme is that she didn't write it, so if kid's don't like it, how can that be her fault?
Oh my goodness, I'm just so confused ...
I do not have a background in Health Care or Science, but I found Gelston and Whit's posts both to be very informative, so thank you both.
My background is in Business, specifically Marketing and as a Politician, Governor Palin needs to drive home her message regarding specific areas with the voters.
It seems to me by her latest Facebook post, she is also conveying another message that proper health, nutrition, and fitness can help deter many illnesses, trips to the doctor, etc, which in the long run will help reduce health care costs as well.
I mentioned yesterday an idea that she should team up with Laura Ingraham and do a Bike Ride for Cancer Awareness.
Perhaps she could refocus her message and instead promote a Health and Fitness Wellness Day with a Bike Ride, or Run/Walk. Provide a specific date sometime in 2010 and ask all Americans to participate locally if they are interested. Leave it up to each individual to see if they want to participate and gather friends in their local communities.
This wouldn't be so much of a National sponsored event (logistics and pre-planning is a nightmare) like the Susan Koman Breast Cancer events, but more of a "Call to Action for Health and Fitness" request by Governor Palin.
She could do all of this just by a Facebook post and perhaps do one national TV interview (perfect for a Greta interview). She could ask the American people to make donations if interested (no pressure) to their local Foundations of the participants choosing (like Breast Cancer Awareness, American Heart Association, etc, etc).
Of course it would be great PR if she was out on the campaign trail that specific date and was seen running herself and did a bit more press. Nothing would be sweeter than seeing Andrea Mitchell on mile 10 with Governor Palin.
In my opinion, she has already won the Health Care debate with her 'death panel' metaphor and made her points with the discussion of health care rationing. I believe the American people do indeed TRUST Governor Palin on this subject much more than the Obama Adminstration.
Perhaps its time to pivot and show her Leadership regarding the Health Care debate and ask more from the American people to help reduce the ongoing costs of Health Care.
She is the only person who has the charisma and leadership skills to carry this off. This will go a long way to swaying women and her doubters.
Just my thirteen cents for the day. :)
Yes you go defendAmerica.
I think this is the vote to start debate. they need 60 for it. and then there is another chance to filibuster. thats probly where the battle will be.
I think its the smart thing for her to help mccain. It shows she can be moderate and is loyal.
I really like S.E. Cupp! Thanks for posting the article.
It's an attack on women because women live longer than men, so the majority of seniors are women. Where is NOW?
i respect your opinion and deleted my posts out of respect to you.
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