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I posted on the O'Reilly thread, but typically post to older threads get pushed into obscurity, so I thought I'd repeat my "advice" to Sarah here.
If I were advising Sarah on these interviews, I'd suggest to her a very succinct answer to a question like "are you smart enough to be President". I'd tell her to say "As an executive, you don't always have all the answers yourself, but you know where to get the answers and you need to be prepared to act once you get the answers. No one person can be expected to be all-knowing and they shouldn't be expected to. A good executive surrounds herself with competent and open-minded people. That's how you get the right answers. That's the way I manage. So, yes I am smart enough to be President. Next question."
I have always harped against ASSUMPTION so I am not going to start now and ASSUME everybody has been alerted to or digested the results of the breakthrough poll released Thursday Nov. 19 by Fox News/Opinion Dynamics. Again here are the astonishing results:
F UF
OVERALL
OBAMA 46 46
PALIN 47 42
HUCKABEE 45 23
ROMNEY 38 27
INDEPENDENTS
OBAMA 34 51
PALIN 49 38
HUCKABEE 44 28
ROMNEY 35 34
REPUBLICANS
PALIN 70 21
HUCKABEE 63 15
ROMNEY 60 16
KY, good point.
In the US, we have a messianic complex:
- the MSM demanded that Bush take care of EVERY ASPECT OF OUR LIVES
o they knew / know this is impossible, so they convinced everyone he was a boob
o despite democratic elections in Iraq !
- with Obambi, well, we know that he is the caretaker of all
BUT
- with Sarah, it will be a team effort, and it's NOT ABOUT HER
reference point # 4 of The Sarah Palin Effect:
4. Work together as a team, pull your own weight. No one is better than another.
Look at this stat, the number who have no opinion:
Indies
Palin 13
Huck 28
Romney 31
Republicans
Palin 9
Huck 22
Romney 24
Analysis:
a. Everyone knows Sarah
b. Those who don't know Sarah will like her at at rate of 70%
c. Most of those who say they don't like don't really know her
d. America loves Sarah !
e. and so do I ! ! ! !
P.S. My daughter was point guard in h.s., a real scrapper. # 22, ha ha ha
<span>ook at this stat, the number who have no opinion:
Indies
Palin 13
Huck 28
Romney 31
Republicans
Palin 9
Huck 22
Romney 24
Analysis:
a. Everyone knows Sarah
b. Those who don't know Sarah will like her at at rate of 70%
c. Most of those who say they don't like don't really know her
d. America loves Sarah !
e. and so do I ! ! ! ! </span>
yesterday on WBAL in the drive time home, one fellow talked about his 45th high school reunion.
When registering, he filled in the section for "Awards since high school": Nobel Peace Prize
at the Reunion, they announced this as if it were real,
- and they all LAO
what a joke is our President.
Here are the ramifications of this poll as I see it:
1) Generally the poll results show Obama's and Palin's political fortunes going in opposite directions, the worst possible scenario for Obama as it may dampen the Messiah's political capital and leverage and threaten his ability to shepherd the national healthcare bill through Congress. At least I hope it does. At the same time, as Obama's primary nemesis, Palin will feel even more emboldened to speak out against Obama and his agenda and gain even more credibility with the Right. Next to the ability to fundraise, what adds to a politician's cachet is rising poll numbers and momentum.
2) As far as I know this is the first poll Obama and Palin that shows Palin more highly regarded than Obama. This is significant and the day that Obama's war room and the MSM tried everything within their power to stave off. The only way that any pundit can claim now that Palin is not competitive with Obama is to deny the existence or results of this poll. Unfortunately for the Far Left and Obama this poll has already gone viral in the right-wing blogosphere. Sure Sarah may suffer some setbacks in her poll numbers in the future, but would you really want to be it would happen during her book tour? Sarah is definitely in the ascendancy.
3) And along with #2 it is going to be much more difficult for the GOP establishment and the Beltway professionals and elites to make the case that Palin is 'unelectable', 'polarizing' or a bane to independents. I'm not going to say that they still aren't going to try, but bear in mind the majority of Republicans and conservatives primarily watch Fox News and not the MSM. They are not dronesl they know that the lay of the political landscape is changing big time.
4) Based on these poll numbers Palin will also IMHO be able to attract more support in 2010 (the bandwagon or snowball effect) for the Sarah Palin express as it blitzes the lower 48. The fear for the GOP establishment is that the SP express may become a runaway train which is more than capable of running over anybody who gets in the way. PPP (Public Policy polling) has touted Huckabee as the GOP frontrunner for 2012 in 8 straight polls. That might soon be coming to an end. This is also not good news for Romney.
5) The road to political LEGITIMACY for Palin got a bit easier with the release of this poll.
6) This poll confirms the Rasmussen poll released Monday Nov 16th of Palin's F/UF being now at 51/43.
7) Everybody needs positive reinforcement from time to time, even Sarah Palin. This poll is living proof that she and Going Rogue have made a deep impression and perhaps have a lasting impact on the Americanpeople and that she is heading in the right direction.
8) Obama, his war room, George Soros groups, the MSM, academia, the liberal elites, and the entertainment industry will in turn spare no tactic, treachery, resource, or money to take Palin down. I know I have made this comment in several posts, but it doesn't mean that it is any less accurate.
Palin's UF are simply the result of people who get their news strictly from the MSM and have no friends to set them straight.
To use techno's sports analogies, with Bush (and now Palin), it was always the "referees" throwing the flag on EVERY play against them and NEVER throwing the flag against their opponents.
It always amazed me that Bush stayed as strong as he did (ignoring the awful ending)
and it should be pretty amazing how strong this woman remains - and getting stronger.
9) As for Sarah's Facebook, these excellent poll numbers should only send her membership numbers skyrocketing into the stratosphere further LEGITIMIZING her presence as the candidate of the tea parties and the grassroots. I think Sarah fully understands what is unfolding before our very eyes; of course the elitists will choose to ignore it or mitigate the importance of Sarah's Facebook as the single-most important tool in perhaps leading America back to its glory days of liberty, achievement and victory.
10) And finally I think the ramification of this poll is that Sarah will no longer be contemplating whether she runs for POTUS or not. I believe she now knows that she has to use the next year to get all her ducks in a row, hire staff, build a campaign infrastructure, develop a coherent policy agenda, and simply improve her performance on the campaign trail. Does anyone doubt now that Sarah can pull this off and by the way does anybody at C4P really still believe that Sarah should have run for re-election in 2010?
And in case you missed it earlier in the week I came across a podcast that may shed some light on what Obama's strategy in 2012 will be:
http://commonwealthjournal.org/
http://wumb.libsyn.com/rss
How to talk about race
By the way last night so many folks on C4P really thought Sarah's answer to whether she had the intelligence or incisiveness to be POTUS was outstanding and passionate, but nobody thought to pose the obvious question, "If Sarah Palin is not going to run for the GOP nomination why should she answer the question in the first place?"
If she wasn't going to run she should have said, "Bill, it's all academic and water under the bridge. The American people will never get to find out."
Techno, while that FOX poll certainly is good news. It is a FOX poll. Not to say they're cooking the books, but just as if MSNBC came out with a poll saying Palin has awful #s, I'd be a tad skeptical of FOX poll saying she has better #s. I'd wait for a few other polls to point to a trend.
For example, Obama's approval rating. For a while Rasmussen was the only one who had him below 50. Now a bunch of others(Gallup, PPP, Quin, FOX, Zogby) all do.
That said, it's way too early for polls to really mean anything.
In Dec 1978 Jimmy Carter led Ronald Reagan 57-35, 22 pts. Up from a July of 1978 lead of 52-43.
Good thing we didn't have the David Frums and Newsweeks of the world to tell us what bad news Reagan was for the party and how he has no shot. I bet there were dems back then who were saying "Yes, God, if you exist, please let that aging cowboy Ray-Gun be the nominee. Let him divide the party like did in 76 and rive all the moderates and independents away. He'd be the best thing to happen to Carter"
A lot will happen between now and Nov, 2012.
Rasmussen daily tracking poll:
-13 (27-40) strongly approve-strongly disapprove (net approval index)
-5 (47-52) approve-disapprove
Since Nov 17 (polling Monday evening after Oprah interview) Obama has been below 50% in approval and his net approval index has been between -12 and -14.
guest,
I'm also a poll skeptic, but I liked this one.
re: Reagan trailing Carter by 22 in '78
- before the Internet
- it's astonishing Palin is so high after they tried to destroy her
and people are waking up, and they have another means to get their news
- and they are getting mad when they see the truth
Fox News has definitely not been biased towards Palin or the Republicans. Far from it; earlier in the year when Rasmussen was reporting Obama tanking in the high 40's, Fox and Opinion Dynamics were still reporting Obama in the mid 50's. Incidentally to show how bad Palin was doing in July, her overall F/UF were 38/51 and her F/UF among indies were 33/55.
Even as late as Sept 17 Fox news had Obama's overall F/UF at 54/39 and indie F/UF at 51/42.
Palin's UF, like Hillary's will always be high. She's just been defined and already through a campaign and a media onslaught. Dems will never like her, just like Reps never liked Hillary. Now, maybe some Hillary dems will like her. Hillary didn't really have the equivalent of GOP PUMAs when she ran. The PUMAs and Clinton backers never liked Obama, and they won't in 2012. So she has that going for her.
The Is will swing based on the economy, taxes and jobs, as they did in VA and NJ. As they did in 2008, 2006, 2004, etc... They're very fickle. We saw them abandon Obama and the dems in droves. If the economy doesn't get any better, they'll be fine with Palin. Especially if she were to have a VP who was seen as competent and more moderate(ironically, McCain would be a great VP for her). Even a Romney would be good, Huck, whoever. She'll probably need a Biden/Cheny type with natl security/foreign policy exp.
Things are already moving. She's more popular than Biden among Is already. May be above Obama by Xmas at the rate he's going. It doesn't have to be all at once. A nice, slow, steady rise would be just fine.
Her real secret could lie in the close to 100 million voting age Americans who didn't vote last year. It could be much more effective to find and register a few-10 million of them than to convert Obama voters. There's a whole bunch of folks out there to be reached.
And I'd guess she's definitely considering running. The Nixon 66 model of stumping for Senate/House/Gov candidates in the off-year and building up support and a network of people who owe you is a good one to follow. If she were to appear for say Rubio, Portman, Toomey, Lowden, Norton, Kasich, Corbett(PA Gov), and a few others and they all do well or most of them do, she'll be in good shape.
9 states flipped from Bush to Obama in 08: CO, NV, NM, IN, OH, FL, VA, IA, NC. It's not a coincidence her book tour is stopping in each of them.
guest said: >><span>100 million voting age Americans who didn't vote last year.</span>
ouch for Obambi going forward.
Principle # 3 of "The Sarah Palin Effect"
- the power of the people<span> </span>
Bill in Baltimore what makes this really significant is Obama's F/UF with independents at 34/51. I had to do a doubletake and tripletake to make sure my eyes were not deceiving me; and then couple that with Palin at 49/38 with indies, that is equivalent to the Phillies in 1950 blowing a huge lead in the final days of the stretch drive or an amateur golfer beating Tiger Woods in 18 holes of golf.
These numbers IMHO deserve our full attention. Palin power is alive and well.
Guest, look at the poll results again:
Palin's UF overall is at 42; with indies at 38.
That is not my definition of 'high'.
I just got an email and I don't know if you all have seen this. Xerox is sending Thank You cards free to the troops in Iraq. They were designed by children around the U.S. It took me 30 seconds to fill one out. Go to www.LetsSayThanks.com
I've been busy with my father in the hospital but this site rocks and so does Sarah. Just wanted to say keep rocking.
Ironically one of the outlets of the state-run media (CNN) came out with a poll that shows declining support (53% in May to 38% now) that Republicans are to blame for the current recession. 27% now blame the Dems and 27% say they are both to blame and the pollster said that with each passing month 2-3% more blame the Dems. By spring 2010 Obama IMHO will own the recession.
Techno,
I've ALWAYS thought that Sarah would be running for POTUS.
As you know it's just wayyyy too early to say so. :-)
wisetrog,
Hope your father is doing okay. Hospitals are no fun and hope he's home soon.
Techno,
WOW....Your brain is really in full gear so early on a saturday! ;-)
Well, this poll is clearly very good. I meant more overall. She'll always have a solid core of people who don't care for her. If you look at polls for Huck or Romney or Pawlenty and other newcomers if they run they'll have a large undecided. Palin will always have a small undecided. Just like Hillary. The flip side for her is that she'll also have a solid core of people who are very supportive of her, especially Reps and conservatives, which is a good thing. For example, Romney's sub 50% F among Reps and Conservatives was amazing to me in that PPP poll. How can he be that low?
Also, unlike Hillary, she won't have an Obama in the GOP field to contend with. The only possibility I see on the GOP Obama front is Petraeus. If he runs I'd think he'd win rather comfortably. There's been zero indication he will, though. He'd also be an ideal VP for her. Also, Dick Cheney could be an Obama type. With his age and heart problems I doubt he runs, though. Possibly Jeb Bush but I think W ended the Bush dynasty for good. Those are the only 3 who could provide the star power Obama was able to provide against Hillary. Any other dem field in history and she would have won easily.
I'm just saying that unfortunately the dem and media attack dogs have left a lasting impression on some people. They'll do the same with Romney and Huck but hey haven't started yet, so their numbers are skewed. Her UF will always be higher than theirs because of the attacks she's received and the ones they haven't. If her UF drop to their level, watch out.
But she's in good shape. You have to figure that whoever is still with her has been through the ringer, built up a tolerance. If you haven't been turned off by her yet, you won't be. I doubt there's too many who liked her before and recently said "that's it, I've had it". So she can only go up from here.
Just wanted to bring to attention 2 of Sarah's recent postings on twitter:<span> </span><span></span>
<span>1. Thot I'd stick w tour news on Twitter but can't help digress: Call senators! Tell 'em KILL THE BILL tonite;horrible govt healthcare takeover</span> <span>about 2 hours ago</span> <span>from TwitterBerry</span>
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<span>2. Senate healthcare takeover debate begins in an hour. Pls call senators if u care about another 1/6th of our economy swallowed up by Big Govt</span> <span>about 1 hour ago</span> <span>from TwitterBerry</span>
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re: poll numbers, it would be better to see the trends on a graph. That tells the story.<span> </span>
An excellent piece by John Batchelor over at the Daily Beast today:
http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2009-11-20/the-unsinkable-sarah-palin/
I know.
But did you catch her answer to O'Reilly. You know, she didn't have to be as impassioned with her answer if she has no future presidential aspirations.
terri:
Again you cannot assume that folks who show up at C4P on the weekend know what has gone on during the week. Hey, the greater majority of these folks work for a living.
The news of the Fox News poll cannot be overpromoted:
Among indies:
Obama's F/UF 34/51
Palins" F/UF 49/38
These 4 numbers may be the most important 4 numbers in the launching of a Palin presidential bid.
Cool. I just sent one, too. That site makes it so easy to do.
What prominent 'expert' recently made the comment recently to Fox News, "...People could lose confidence in the US economy in a way that could actually lead to a double dip recession."
1) Alan Greenspan
2) Arthur Laffer
3) Sarah Palin
4) Barack Obama
5) Ben Stein
The One...Obama
You are too sharp. Yes.
I got another email. Woohoo. ;) This one from SarahPac stating the signed book offer from Sarah ends Wed. 11/25. So get you $100 or more in ASAP. *lol*
Thats a good point. I think that Obama having a strongly disapproval rating will bring first time voters out in droves.
The Palin blitz this week reminds me of the D-day landings (release of Going Rogue) and the subsequent efforts by the allies during the next few days to secure a beachhead, to neutralize the German armed forces and to prepare to make inroads deeper into enemy territory to secure greater triumphs and to achieve greater prestige.
FOX must have a huge D adv if Obama is at 34/51 among Is and she's at 49/38 and yet their overall F/UF are roughly similar. Assuming they both have similar partisan #s.
Also, F and approval are slightly different.
But given the huge D edge in ID, in the 80s among Ds, the teens among Rs and 34 among Is would out him in the mid to high 40s overall, so it makes sense.
The most important # in any GOP Presidential bid is 765. As in the 765 million Obama raised last year. Unless the GOP can come anywhere near that in 2012 things will be very difficult. He'll at least double that in 2012. We'll need someone who can if not match it, at least remain close. Mitt Romney and his 54M raised in all of 2007 will not cut it. Nor will Huck and his 9M in all of 2007. I know that for sure.
I wonder if the KSM trial is really hurting him. There was a Gallup poll recently where it said that 55% say he's governing as a liberal vs 34% as a moderate. Right after the election last yr 44% said he'd be liberal and 44% said he'd be moderate. Basically, 25% or so of the folks who bought his centrist act and were swayed by the media and his 765 million dollars in ads have realized they were hoodwinked. Bamboozled to use a favorite phrase of his. They now know he's just another liberal.
The dems face a choice with health care. They'll never have a better chance than now. If they don't do it now, they never will. But they also know that if they do pass it there's a good chance they may lose the House and a whole bunch of seats in the Senate and hamper Obama big time. They see his #s dropping and that he won't be much of a help in 2010, especially in swing districts. They'll have to decide whether health care is a once in a lifetime opportunity that's worth losing their power over or whether they believe in it enough to lose their seats over it. It'll be interesting.
Yes we do! But there's usually some stolen time for this. Keep up the good work.
NEW YORK TIMES -JANUARY 20,1979.....Carter leads Reagan in polls
WASHINGTON, Jan. 20--President Carter would easily defeat either former Gov. Ronald Reagan of California or former President Gerald R. Ford if the election were held today, according to the Gallup Poll.
A Gallup Poll from Dec 1978 showed Carter with a huge 57-35 lead over Reagan. Up substantially from a 52-43 lead a few months earlier.
yeah, I just looked at the FOX poll and the 34-51 is his approval rating. He's actually still at 50-47 F/UF among Is which is more of a personal evaluation.
Still, 50/47 vs 49/38 is just fine.
but youre comparing two different #s with the 34/51.
If only that result occurred in Nov 1980.
At this moment Sarah has every thing any candidate could ask for. We all know what they. Sarah has to seize the moment and go all the way to DC. Now if the decision is to go in a different direction then the moment will be lost for ever and it may not come back. It has to be 2012 for our Lady Liberty or bust. With that said the first order of business 2010 then on to 2012.
What the lastest Poling data proves is Sarah is not Toxic after all. The crowds are here power and the GOP better realize it now. I can wait till the numbers come out next month on Sarah PAC. Heads are going to spin like a top.
When PPP releases its results it uses the same comparison of job approval F/UF vs F/UF popularity of the GOP candidates (refer to the questions in the PDF); in addition when Obama runs for re-election in 2012 he will be the incumbent and the voters will vote for him based mainly on how good a job he has done. In contrast the GOP nominee's F/UF will be based F/UF popularity.
Thus I believe 34/51 vs 49/38 is an accurate read on the current lay of the land.
Coda:
That is the way I have seen it for the last 8-9 months. It's really the only way that Sarah could ever become POTUS. Yes, it's now or never. The romantics would call it a rendezvous with destiny.
Healthcare? Health requires no care. Illness and injury do. My insurance covers expenses incurred in the treatment of injury or illness. If I didn't have kids, I wouldn't have it at all.
Anyway, here is a little philosophy I can remember reading on a plaque on the wall of a beach house when I was only about 5 years old. Somehow, I've never forgotten it.
There's not much to worry about. Either you are well, or you are sick. If you are well, there's nothing to worry about. If you are sick, there's only two things to worry about. You will get well, or you will die. If you get well, there's nothing to worry about. If you die, there are only two things to worry about. You will go to heaven, or you will go to hell. If you go to heaven, you have nothing to worry about. If you go to hell, you'll be so busy greeting old friends, you won't have time to worry! I've tried to live by it ever since.
<span>I'll be honest, I don't see how anyone can read that book and listen the those interviews and not know that she is running for president.<span> </span>Could some unforeseen event derail her ambition?<span> </span>- Of course.<span> </span>But the circumstantial evidence is overwhelming enough for me to conclude beyond a shadow of a doubt that she is running.<span> </span>Many here disagree and are uncomfortable with such pronouncements but the circumstantial evidence that she is NOT planning to run - Is nil and NONE.</span>
We have been on the same page for awhile what we did not see coming was the stepping down. We knew it was one term for Sarah if she had any thought of '12.
The other thing I have notice on this tour is the VIP's (local party officals) get some face time with Sarah. Networking comes to mind. This very important and it seem to be flying under the radar to everybody else.
good for us . . . I think . . .
I can't shake off that little tidbit Obama told CNN the other day, that he may not run for re-election in 2012 if his poll numbers tank. Sarah is the complete opposite of Obama in every respect, from policies to personality to patriotism. No potential GOP candidate draws as big a contrast. If Obama's policies flop, the RINO will have to go into hiding.
Soros and the shadow party will not allow Obama to fold his tent. They have billions on the line that could be completely jeopardized with a Palin presidency that would have a better chance to come to fruition if she did not have to go up against the Messiah in their judgment. You know what happens to those who threaten to quit the mob, don't you?
Sarah knows the importance of pressing the flesh and touching base. It's called 'laying the foundation'. Only a complete idiot would conjecture that Sarah is not running in 2012.
Techno, I don't think Soros will be able to control what will be a personal decision. The last thing Obama wants is to lose. He has the Nobel Peace Prize now, he will do everything to protect his image, and "losing" will not give him a good image. Also, the longer he remains CIC, the more likely he will have to make tough military decisions. He would much rather not have to make those decisions at all, especially with his Nobel Peace Prize, but he knows that he won't be able to avoid them.
Well I can think of a few. KHammer is one, Tucker Carlson is a idiot as well a talk show for Sarah not on your life, need I say more. One more thing I wish BOR and Beck would shut the F up about a third Party. Monday nite BOR is going to be interesting.
You have got to be kidding. Soros owns the Democratic party, Private decision. In the mob there is no such thing as a private decision. These folks are major players. They are not about to give up everything they have worked for in the last 40 years. Obama has been bought lock, stock, and barrel. He is the marionette. Darker forces are pulling the strings.
Right now these folks are brainstorming how to foment the next 'crisis' (akin to the financial meltdown) to keep Obama in power or to allow him to prevail in the 2010 midterms or 2012 elections or working on the way to legalize 20m illegal immigrants. Short of nuking middle America, I wouldn't put anything past these folks. They are amoral, relentless and cruel Fascist bastards. Just because the detention camps haven't been built yet, don't think they are not in the works. Can we say, Obama maximum security for conservatives who would rather go to jail than pay for health insurance?
I know this sounds over the top. But read The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich and then come back and tell me that I'm full of s**t.
Thank you terri, God bless.
I think you're spot on. Unfortunately.
Techno, I just requested a copy of "<span>The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich" from my local library. LOL.</span>
What I am afraid of is Obama retreating after one term. What happens next? I am terrified of Hillary running and facing Sarah. I think Sarah can take down any Dem except Hillary because Hillary would eat into both working class and women vote. Hope that won't happen.
To many Hillary fans who frequent these forums, I want both women to run but not against each other. (My respect for HC has grown during 2008 even though I pretty much disagree with her on everything. )
all good points. The UF # is the real issue. He has 47(or 51) vs 38 for her. Very nice to see. Either way she looks good.
Since Favorables are usually always higher than approval ratings if Biden is at 32F in Gallup among Is, his approval rating must be in the 20s or worse. Nice. Joe's no joke.
I've got a question regarding the ramifications on universal healthcare...
How would the universal coverage effect the services and prescriptions for people with things like anxiety, depression, etc. ?
I have not heard anyone talk about this, but I would think that these types of services and drugs might be limited. My main concern is that 'experts' would argue that you don't need them to survive and you can live without them, which would effect millions of American's who need them to get by.
Clinton would but I think Obama sold his soul to the Far Left wing a long time ago. Look at Afghanistan. HE knows what will work but he wants to stay with his base. They own him. Soros says jump and Obama says how high.
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<p>In a Hillary/Sarah matchup, I'll be in Sarah's camp for sure. I'm so over Hillary. She had her chance but she blew it. I still have a lot of respect for Hillary as a person, but politically, her time has passed. If Obama quits after one term it will be due to the unpopularity of his policies, which will reflect badly on the entire Democratic party and that won't help Hillary. If Hillary runs in 2012, she will have to quit her SOS job in mid-term. I don't see her leaving her SOS legacy unfinished only to run in a race that has no guarantee she will win. I don't know, I just have this strong vibe that Hillary is done with running for the presidency, though I could be wrong.
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<p><span><span><span><span>In a Hillary/Sarah matchup, I'll be in Sarah's camp for sure. I'm so over Hillary. She had her chance but she blew it. I still have a lot of respect for Hillary as a person, but politically, her time has passed. If Obama quits after one term it will be due to the unpopularity of his policies, which will reflect badly on the entire Democratic party and that won't help Hillary. If Hillary runs in 2012, she will have to quit her SOS job in mid-term. I don't see her leaving her SOS legacy unfinished only to run in a race that has no guarantee she will win. I don't know, I just have this strong vibe that Hillary is done with running for the presidency, though I could be wrong.</span></span></span></span>
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<span><span><span><span><span>In a Hillary/Sarah matchup, I'll be in Sarah's camp for sure. I'm so over Hillary. She had her chance but she blew it. I still have a lot of respect for Hillary as a person, but politically, her time has passed. If Obama quits after one term it will be due to the unpopularity of his policies, which will reflect badly on the entire Democratic party and that won't help Hillary. If Hillary runs in 2012, she will have to quit her SOS job in mid-term. I don't see her leaving her SOS legacy unfinished only to run in a race that has no guarantee she will win. I don't know, I just have this strong vibe that Hillary is done with running for the presidency, though I could be wrong.</span></span></span></span> </span>
i hope things go well, wisetrog
I think the actual number is around 80 million but that is netiher here nor there. Get 1/4 of them out to vote for you and the rout is on. States are in play that people never imagined.
I agree to some degree with this assessment but Obama was below 50 in 5 polls to include Gallup and QUannipac which are not COnservative bastions. PPP is too inaccurate so I don't look at it. THe interesting thing right now is if the poll doesn't say WAPO, NYT, NBC, CBS, CNN or ABC he is below 50. Do the math.
Oh and a big problem with CBS was what question did they ask to get a 23 % Favorable and 38 unfavorable? One thing for sure with her is most people either like or hate.
I know I am lone voice in this opinion, but I have always thought OB would be a one term president. He is no administrator, he likes the kudo's from everyone, he doesn't like the work required, he dosen't like to make decisions especially those which might result in negative comments and he is a party animanl. He is a show horse, maybe a race horse, but not a work horse. A president has to be a work horse if they are going to serve the people. Sarah is all three that is why she keeps on going and wins kudos from many,
http://www.therightscoop.com/
for all of us that cannot see Glenn Beck or his rebroadcast, this is a day late but non the less, you can see the whole shoe
10 signs of things to come:
1) "I want to phone a friend." Tina Fey on SNL (playing a Sarah Palin who does not know the answer to a question asked) Sept 28/08
2) "Anyone who hunts moose don't care too much about what they do with Jews and blacks." Alcee Hastings (D) Sept 24/08
3) Palinmania: 60,000 turn out for event in Florida? Sept 21/08
4) "If Obama loses, it's because of racism." Jack Cafferty Sept 17/08
5) "I think that a culture of life is best for America." Sarah Palin Sept 12/08
6) "Do I have to be worried about becoming a slave again?" Whoopi Goldberg to John McCain on The View Sept 12/08
7) "Palin's 'qualification' is that she hasn't had an abortion." Carol Fowler, SC Democratic chair Sept 10/08
8) Only 29% of Obama supporters think Supreme Court should decide cases based on the Constitution (Rasmussen poll) Sept 9/08
9) "The media's overplayed its hand in shilling for Obama." Newt Gingrich Sept 4/08 (Media Malpractice proved him wrong)
10) "They (the Left) are going to have to kill her and kill her quick." Peggy Noonan Sept 3/08
Newsmax reports that the democrats have 60 votes for debating on health care:
http://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/healthcare_lincoln_yes/2009/11/21/289469.html
I read that Sarah reads Newsmax (never heard of it) so I went there to check it out, only to find that bad news :(
Argh! Many people say: 'Its no problem.. its just being put on the table for debate' but they don't realize that 97% of the bills that come up for debate end up passing. Also I read that once the bill is on the table for debate, Reid can apply some procedural shuffling and pass the bill on a 'budget reconciliation' something (I wish I had more details), that will allow it to pass with only 51 votes, which he already has. Reid has nothing to loose and is a street fighter.. so that's probably what he is intending to do. I hope not.
I don't believe anything the Dems have to say, including that Lincoln with vote against the bill if it contains a public option.
Sarah Palin on Twitter:
Not sure I can convince Sen. Lincoln to vote no-but will do everything in my pwr to convince my friends in Arkansas to vote against her.
Comment:
Isn't it ironic that a man named Lincoln helped to emancipate the slaves while a lady named Lincoln is going to cast a vote to enslave us!
Obama is a great actor. Trust Rush Limbaugh on this one: the Messiah is out to transform America and to destroy the American economic engine. He knows exactly what he is doing. Obama is not stupid.
Palin pandemonium:
I like that.
Wow!!!
Check out Josh Painter's Memo to Kathleen Parker on Texas for Sarah Palin. Could Josh be fed up by the slimy elitist rhetoric? Josh....consider the source....she's an over the hill......unattractive.......untalented......wannabee gossip columnist who slept her way to her current position....and now finds that no one would ever consider boosting her to any other level by the same tactics.....there's only one way she can go now.......along a path to obscurity......kinda like an aging prostitute.
Thanks for the heads up, Lipstick. Are you going to be there?
Hate to point this out, but brace yourself, pics. of you know who in Playgirl have been leaked. I am speechless. Hope Sarah is alerted so she can say 'NO COMMENT'....PLEASE DON'T RESPOND TO THIS SARAH.
juju:
You are not advocating a 'coverup', are you?
I thought the question itself was the LAMEST of all questons! Why the Hell did BOR feel he even had the right to ask it?...because she is a dumb woman?....That SOB would have gotten an answer from me...and it would have been painful for him!..I'm just sayin'!
Techno...Noooooo...these pics are far from a "coverup". I just don't want Sarah to become a part of this by responding. She has already expressed her opinions about it and why say more.
The only thing I can say about the pics which I have seen..".it is amazing what a small towel can cover up."
palin should hit around 50% favorable the next few weeks.
Sarah already did with Rasmussen (51/43) last Monday.
isn't the classic line from David Niven at the Oscars something to the effect that poor *** will be remembered only for his shortcomings?
Good article about Sarah from Ralph Reed on Newsmax:
Sarah Palin Shines as a Rogue
http://www.newsmax.com/ralph_reed/Sarah_Palin_Rogue/2009/11/19/288330.html
Just came back from Barnes & Noble. They had every bestseller marked with either 10,20 or 30% off EXCEPT Going Rogue.
On Tuesday, it was 30% off but not now. Are they trying to lower sales?
50% will adults, not just likely voters
My guess is they were flying off the shelf at a lower price so they upped it, thinking it would still sell at the higher price.
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