Wednesday Open Thread
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Rasmussen: Most Americans Oppose Second Stimulus and Using Bailout Funds for States
WaPo: Senate tentatively agrees to remove public option
Bob Moffit: A Thinly-Disguised Power Grab: The Latest Senate “Compromise” On The Government-Run Health Plan
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Times: Japan injects further £50 billion into economy
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Good Morning!
Recovering Democrat....thoughts and prayers..
Ciao Bello...
Imagine how many ethics complaints would have been filed if Gov. Palin had not resigned, and had gone on a book signing tour. My guess is that there would have been at least one filed for every stop on the tour, plus some just aimed at the tour as a whole. Let's say about 40. That's in addition to the Andree McNutt's recent complaint.
Yesterday was suppose to be the day Pfloufe made his big push to unseat Sarah's book. Does anybody have the final results on that. I watched throughout the day and never saw him come close on Amazon or B&N. Anybody see anything else.
I suspect Pfloufe's book went "poof" on Dec. 8th.
Dear Nancy, Cruela, Bestbud, and Firelight,
I only came to the Copenhagen thread a short while ago, but I want to THANK you for sharing your wonderful experiences of yesterday. Your simple eloquence was deeply moving...I loved it.
Firelight, I am most happy that our prayers were answered and that you did make it after all: the Lord is good and gracious, and "disposes all things sweetly"!!!
I want to meet you guys, and all my fellow C4Pers: WE MUST HAVE A C4P CONVENTION!!
Could we get Sarah to come as the featured speaker?!? It would be unlikely, but not impossible.
Anyway, this is something to think about...indeed, to pray about!!
Meanwhile, again thanks from the bottom of my soul for sharing your special moments with Our Sarah and with her family.
God bless you always!!
Brianus/Brian (PS: I have been up all night, and must leave soon to get some rest --but I will be back later on today)
Yes, Recovering Democrat, God bless you. Praying for you!
Ciao Bella, buongiorno!
RecoveringD: prayers and thoughts--God bless!!
Bean Counter,
It is so good to see you here. Good morning!!
Mia and Charter,
I have come to look forward to your early-morning Italian (and even French)!!
Which of these right-wing commentators or bloggers made the assertion or at least suggested that Sarah Palin was finished politically and/or would not be the GOP presidential nominee in 2012, shortly after her resignation in July?
1) Charles Krauthammer, Fox News commentator
2) Lars Larson, talk show host
3) Erick Erickson of Red State
4) Chris Wallace of Fox News Sunday
5) Ace of spades, blogger
Last night I gingerly ventured out to a Christmas party for the board members of the local AFTRA and Screen Actors Guild. There's a handful of us who are die hard conservatives in the sea of entertainment liberal weenies, and our dinner conversation consisted of praise for Gov. Palin, "Going Rogue" and the book tour, tea parties, and hope for 2010. What was fascinating was that others at our table joined in our conversation saying they felt they were the only ones who thought as we did and were happy to know they weren't alone. Plus, we found out that an ever growing number of people in these unions, particularly the Screen Actors Guild, are identifying themselves as conservatives. Folks, that's huge.
This "movement" that's going on is clearly bigger than I think any of us really realize. Those of us huddled together last night vowed to do whatever we can to be as active as we can in the coming months, and to be bold in our convictions. That, coming from a bunch of show business types, is nothing short of astonishing.
I vote for the first convention to be in Alaska...in the summertime. ;-)
I also vote for moose chilli at the afterparty....hehe...
Good morning, intrepid barbarians. God bless.
Despite the weather in much of the country, it's another great day to be alive, American, and following the GuvWeLuv.
We've all thought it, and at times some of us have mentioned it, but it must again be exclaimed: Sarah's dedication, determination, energy, stamina, compassion, fearlessness, love and joy, on full display day after day during her book tour, are a wonder to behold!
She may hail from an "ordinary" background, but Sarah Palin is anything but ordinary. Praise God, Who has blessed and inspired this extraordinary, lovely person.
Splendid: thanks, Bean Counter, for sharing this fascinating and encouraging experience.
The Sleeping Giant is yawning, stirring, awakening...and will be marching on DC soon!!!
God bless you always!
Brianus
I am bummed I won't get to go to the book signing today. I have a family obligation that I need to do.
Family first.
Man it is cold. -2 right now.
Well at least it stopped snowing.
Love it, latinchic!!!!!!!!!!!!!
AOS.
or maybe CK.
No!
All the above?
BC, Reagan's Army (inside the Beltway) has the same view of America as Sarah.
And they are warming up to her.
But they got a tad bit nervous after hearing her 3rd party comment on Lars Larson.
There supposedly was an article "Lord I was born a Rambling Woman" on Real Clear Politics, but I could not find it.
- anyone else know about this ?
Love the early-morning thunder and roll of your eloquence and passion, my friend!!
Brianus
Right answer!
So sorry, Beehive!!
Agree. Their comments almost need their on post. To have 4 C4Pers together and with Nancy basically live commenting was very special. I think we all lived the experience through them.
I missed the SARC sisters comments yesterday, where can I find them ?
And it's almost winter! But really, the EPA is the end run route to making CO2 a hazard, and their doing so will cost all of us. Call your representatives and Senators and let them know that laws made by departmental edict are bad. VERY BAD. And that they are the ones who have to fix it. They created it.
I was gonna say that ! Really ...
I guess that leaves Erick Erickson, which seems counterintuitive, since he spearheaded "Operation Leper" against Nicole Wallace, and other anonymous snipers of Sarah
I was trying to show even those folks considered highly-regarded hardcore practitioners of right-wing politics can have lapses of judgment on occasion.
These folks may not be as smart as we think they are but we are not as average as we think are either.
Bill, first on the open thread, then on the Copenhagen thread. I think these were the main places. Someone can correct me if I've missed one!!
I think there actually was one other...
Going Rogue in Montana and Colorado, I think!!
Bean Counter - very happy to see you this morning and trusting that you're recovering well.
I'll add my concern for Recovering Democrat (who is, without a doubt, recovered), though I must have missed whatever the issue is. If someone could clue me in, I will add prayer (more effective than mere concern).
Was my answer the correct one?
Techno - On Real Clear Politics they have a Bloomberg poll. Within it they have Palin's #s at 39-49. Sounds bad except their last poll had her at 55% disapproval. That is a big shift.
Brianus - bonjour cher monsieur!
Most of the after the meeting was in the Copenhagen Thread. We need a sarc sisters posting.
Yes!
et a toi aussi, bonjour, mon ami!!
You have a ball with their comments, Bill!!!
They got so heated up, they started to melt the ices of Colorado...global, er, C4P warming!!!
You'll-typo
Thank you, good sir. However, such a commendation would be more fairly attributed to you!
I think the 46/46 poll of Palin's overall F/UF by CNN is reflective of where the country is among all potential voters, but in terms of likely voters I think the 47/42 F/UF by the recent Fox News poll sounds pretty reasonable.
To really understand how far Palin has come go back to previous polls starting in August and you will realize the reason at the time that Palin was left for politically dead. A F/UF of 38/55 was quite common back then.
What Palin has done is truly remarkable and again only a superstar could have pulled this magnificent turnaround off in such a short period of time.
GAHanson:
You got it, but for a bit of perspective go back to the archives and read the countless number posts offered in the spring which basically said that Sarah would lose all her credibility if she did not run for re-election (they did not even contemplate at that time an early resignation) and that anybody who even dared to suggest that Sarah give up being governor (including myself) was an idiot or politically naive.
Thanks for sharing that, BC! Agreed, this movement is gathering steam and getting...veRY BIG.
Thanks, my friend!! Well, the combined eloquence and force and power--and above all prayer--of everyone here is going to help stir up a wind, nay, a whirlwind, a cleansing whirlwind, to blow obama and his cronies and the rinos right out of DC..SARAH IS COMING!!!
Sarah is WAY ahead of her enemies. They just do not comprehend whom and what they are trying to thwart. Or maybe they do comprehend but continue...in vain.
Sorry, Charter, I have held in my mind the FACT of remembering to pray for RecoveringD the last few days, but I cannot recall the issue at the moment...
Hello all! I received this from a friend. Looks old, but I wonder if this is still the agenda? Lou Dobbs, maybe he did not fit into CNN?
<span><span>http://d.yimg.com/kq/groups/17260182/1610997888/name/ftc-vi26.wmv, it's a Cnn newscast of Lou Dobbs.</span></span><span><span>
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Good morning friends,
Comment ca va?
It's a beautiful day....the SUN is shinning....but I am a little sad...Sarah's book tour is almost over...what will we do without our daily dose of Sarah and all the wonderful side stories by C4P members. I have noticed that our ranks seem to have grown.....new people blogging every day. I predict that the tour will be back after some well deserved rest and some intensive hand physical therapy for Sarah. After all, the lower 48 is huge and this tour only covered about 1/3 of the states our less if we ever dicover the extra 7 states claimed by Oblamo. I bet that's where the 400 nonexistent congressional districts claimed on recovery.gov are. I'm sure that ACORN has already started signing up voters in Oblamo's invisible fairyland states.
So Sarah...sending you a message....you and your wonderful family will be back home in a few days .....get your Christmas shopping done....wrap your gifts.....spend some well deserved down time with family and friends....go for a few snow machine rides with Todd.....let the beauty of Alaska restore you...then come on back down for another go....you have books to sell....people to meet.....hearts and minds to win....and liberals to drive crazy.
There are thousands of ordinary barbarians in dozens of states that want to stand in long lines for hours or days, if need be, to meet you. Might I suggest that Southern Louisiana would be an EXECELLENT place for the start of Book Tour II...the sequel. The weather is a little warmer than Alaska, the food is legendary, and the people exhibit La Joie de Vivre (joy of living). We will through you a traditional Fais Do Do(party) with some zydeco music. If you make it around Mardi Gras, we'll even make you Grand Marshall of our biggest parade.
So, how about it Sarah. Dis-mon la verite. (Tell me the truth) Are you game to come to the only state in the US that does not have counties?
A couple of messages from the Deep South.....Lache pas la potat ( Means Hang in There or the literal translation...Don't drop the potato)....and Laissez les bon temps souler! (Let the good times roll!)
Rasmussen daily tracking poll:
-10 (29-39) strongly approve-strongly disapprove
-4 (48-52)
From Rasmussen:
"These figures have been remarkably stable and have stayed in a narrow range between 46% and 50% (approval) every day but one for more than 2 months...an analysis by Pollster.com...found that despite identically sized three-day samples, the Rasmussen daily tracking poll is less variable than Gallup. During the Election 2008, the Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll was the least volatile of all those tracking the race."
Utahns waiting in line for the book signing. They expect 3,000.
http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=8967511
"Dave Hansen, the state's chairman for the Utah Republican Party, tried unsuccessfully to arrange an event for Utah Republicans featuring Palin but says he was turned down.
Hansen says he sees Utah continuing to be a Mitt Romney state, even with this visit from Palin."
"The people in line Wednesday morning would like to see Utah become a Sarah Palin state. Many want her to announce her candidacy for the next presidential election"
Hansen is a Rino.
Here are two disparate facts that clearly make one shake their head:
Mike Huckabee appears on Comedy Central's "The Daily Show" to promote his book while on the same day 20,000 people mourn the deaths of 4 police officers by Maurice Clemmons vs the PPP reporting that Huckabee is actually doing slightly better in the a head to head matchup against Obama in a poll to be released tomorrow.
Charter,
She had knee replacement surgery yesterday.
J'aime vos paroles, chere kjanlady, et votre sens de l'humeur!!!! LOL!!!!
All things are possible with God: I wonder if Sarah will ever come to the San Francisco/Berkeley area? Not likely now, but who knows what prayer can accomplish in changing at least some hearts in this sorry corner of the country, my "neck of the woods"!!
God bless you!!
Thanks, Whit!!
Hi Kjan, I posted on the first thread above this morning. I have been watching, reading for 3 wks, having great laughs with everyone. This site is a hoot! Couldn't figure how to log on, duhhhh. They need a chat room, that would be great!
Sarah 2012! loved her book, it really humbled me, as probably everyone that has read so far!
I think you are correct techno. In the digital age with so many people having as much access as the "so-called" experts, they are often times not as knowledgable as we are. Take Krautenhammer. He knows from previous experiences and that is how he draws his conclusions. We can research and see other things in the making. They also study all the candidates where we focus on one. We know the setails of our candidate better than them where CK would know more about a Jindal, Romney etc.
Is today the last day of the book tour?
techno, PEC,
when Sarah tweeted on July 3 that 'it is good' or something like that,
- I KNEW it was good, my nerves were calmed
and she hasn't disappointed once !
Hi, Guest,
We are so blessed to have Sarah in our personal lives and in the life of our country.
What overwhelmes me with wonder and gratitude is that, on the book tour, WE all suppose that we are the ones who have the honor to meet her and speak to her. What is amazing is that Sarah truly thinks that SHE is the one who has the honor of meeting US. And all who meet her can perceive this in her wonderful eyes and in her great, lion of a heart!!
She is a person without equal in today's world!!
You are too kind sir...I hope you all get to experiece whatwe all did yesterday.. it was truly special!
Found them, thanks !
that was sweet, especially the children getting looked in the eye by a future POTUS !
It's a PPP poll, so I pay it no mind, techno, they are substantial as the data out of East Anglia. Now as you've seen I fault the administration of Christine Gregoire, as being the proximate cause to this tragedy. although Huck's evasions in his part of it, infuriate me
Hot Diggity Dog.. We are having a heat wave! -11 now.. up from -18...Windchill -25. WOO HOO!
I'm gong out and get a tan!
Best one was "in the corner with Todd" . . .
now, if I said I was in the corner with Todd, I'd get BLASTED !
but Sarah . . . she's my daughter, my sister in Christ. That's it.
I mute all the talking heads. Ya know whats funny? They think they know everything, can fix the problems of the world, whow how a campaign should be run, yet never run themselves. Talking about it is all they do. Sarah on the other had has alwasy had the spine it takes to put her words into action. The political big heads dont understand Sarah because she goes against every political playbook ever written and it makes the BIG talking heads look SMALL.
No she has the 2 in Idaho tomorrow and then she said back to Alaska for a signing.
son, you said you were up all night. you need to get some rest.
Yes, thanks, Whitney. Now I know what to pray for.
Wow, and she put forth the effort to drive from Wichita, KS to the two MO events last week despite facing knee surgery. That's barbarian dedication.
Ok, thanks for the info. :)
I laughed when you talked about people in line recognizing you by your screen name here.
I met several people in line in both Fort Wayne, Indiana and in Columbus, Ohio who read the comments all the time here at C4P, but never post.
They were all wanted to know who I was at C4P and it went around pretty quickly that I was "defend" from C4P. It was a topic of conversation in line. I thought it was kinda weird and I did not have the privilege of waiting in line with others from here, so there was no one to joke about it with!
Palinism
"A surprising thing is taking place as Sarah Palin starts speaking out on the issues in recent speeches, internet postings, and in the book tour she is now undertaking for her memoir “Going Rogue.” An outline is starting to appear in respect of the substance of her world view — call it “Palinism” — and it is far more substantive than her detractors suggest or than we gained a glimpse of during the campaign. She has been, in a straightforward way, stepping up on certain issues that her fellow Republicans would do well to emulate."
http://www.nysun.com/editorials/palinism/86894/
we need a dislike button!
Hi Brianus,
I've read your posts C4P. Your writing is wonderful. I could never express my feelings fro Sarah the way you do.
You speak for so many of us!
"for"
I know...you see the effect of this great site, gelston...I can't tear myself away!!!
summed up well beehive....
Really the last 4 words are what was really needed!
You know what? The Republican party big whigs, small whigs and whigs in between seem like they still haven't woken up to the fact that people do not like the party machine. People are not lining up to meet Sarah Palin because she is a Republican, they are lining up because they see her as an American who represents their voice. The attempt by some of the Repub whigs to make her look bad because she is not carving time out of her book tour to meet with them, is kinda pathetic really. She wants to meet with the people not with the party.
I'm so glad that global warming is allowing you to tan in December.
Most welcome, my friend...Army-Navy in three days!!!
Here is the result of the Quinnpiac survey on Obama's job approval numbers and to prove it is not an outlier here alongside are the results of the Marist poll released yesterday:
QUINN MARIST
F UF F UF
OVERALL 46 44 46 44
GOP 17 75 12 81
DEMS 80 11 77 16
INDIES 37 51 41 44
MEN 42 50 45 47
WOMEN 51 38 47 42
WHITE 38 51
BLACK 89 6
HISPAN 65 28
<$50,000 49 40 50 37
LIBERAL 74 16 85 13
MODERATE 56 33 48 37
CONSERV 21 72 23 68
Yeah move over Mittens. There's a new sheriff in town!
Polls are similar.
Dear BeefL,
Thank you so much. Sarah is a figure who inspires like no one else. I think she will prove to be even greater than Reagan...and that is saying a lot!!
God bless you!!
Brianus
Here is a further breakdown on white voters, Jewish voters and military voters in the Quinnipiac survey:
F UF
WHITE:
NO COLLEGE DEGREE 44 45
COLLEGE DEGREE 51 41
BORN AGAIN/EVANG 23 68
PROTESTANT 32 57
ROMAN CATHOLIC 42 50
JEWISH 52 35
MILITARY HOUSEHOLDS 41 49
This Hansen guy is everything that is wrong with the GOP. These are the kind of Rino's she has fought throughout her political career.
By the way. There is a conservative candidate named Cherilyn Eager who is running against Mr. Clap for Obama Bennett.
Cherilyn Eager will be at the book signing and is holding a little get together in the parking lot. She likes Sarah Palin a lot.
Love it, manajordan, especially your closing, "She wants to meet with the people not with the party." So true!!!
<span>Love it, manajordan, especially your closing, "She wants to meet with the people not with the party." So true!!!</span>
and your play on "wigs" /"whigs"!!!
Well for.. me it was more my Avatar...but yes...they knew Cruela too...It was fun!
Branius came up in a conversation we had...Can't tell you what was said about him...or Nancy would have to kill me! ;)
Yeah.. I wonder if Sarah and clan wishes they were back in Alaska...It's 16 there!
Now ya got me curious, Cruela...hope you were not trashing my Raiders!!! :-)
I've heard good things about Eager. That's cool that she is going to be there.
Michelle Malkin's article on her blog about meeting Sarah is great; she also posts the Fish NYT book review.
Even more heartwarming are the comments . . . Michelle's fans heart Sarah !
article here
COMMENT:
1) The November Quinn poll had Obama' F/UF at 48/42 three weeks ago. There are too many polls now that prove that less than 1/2 of American voters support Obama and his agenda.
2) The November Quinn poll had Obama's Indy F/UF at 43/46 three weeks ago; Obama has lost 11 points in 3 weeks, a significant dropoff confirming the open secret that independents are fleeing from the gentle hand of the Messiah.
3) The white F/UF of 38/51 confirms Rasmussen on Nov 24 who had Obama's F/UF with whites at 38/61.
4) Obama's standing with moderates at 56 F and Marist's F at 48, at odds with Obama's consistent polling in the low to mid 60's among moderates prove that Obama is being hurt by the economy.
5) Church going whites are fleeing the Messiah; perhaps they are not as CHARITABLE now as I accused them of unjustifiably being a few months ago
My point!
I slipped Sarah's Dad a Christmas card I made for them.. also My Mom asked me to give her a poem that a friend of hers wrote back before Sarah or I were even Born. The Poem was about the despare of finding out as a Mom that your child has Down's Syndrome....then the joy that comes from it! Much of it reflects exactly what Sarah has taked about in her own life. It is a 46+ year old poem and the similarities are spooky!
Dad thanked me.. promised she would get it and stuck it in his back pocket...He had a huge smile on his face as did I!
Thanks for sharing, Cruela...what a day you guys had yesterday!!!!
That's so touching, Cruela! :)
What the liberals don't get, is that with all of the dems plans (healthcare, cap and tax, etc..) they will be paying more for everything. I guess they think that they are immune from a higher electric bill, higher food prices, higher everything! I just don't get it!
What we need to see from Hollywood is that conservative scripts getting made as coherent, decent movies that are hard-hitting and realistic and that show individuals throughout the movie struggling with decisions based on their own morality or their environment juxtaposed to the morality or the state of the world at the time. Stop with the assumption that all conservatives are stupid, yahoos and religious extremists and stop with the assertion that all liberals are enlightened, set the Zeitgeist, and entitled to do anything they want to without suffering any negative feedback, consequences or blowback.
techno... i will never understand why obama continues to take the jewish vote with such a wide margin. he has to be the most unsupportive president of the jewish people the us has ever had and yet they continue to support him. it's frustrating!
2313 registered voters in the Quinnpiac survey
That is beautiful.
Nope it as all about you and the mission we now find ourselves in...regarding you! ;)
Obama continues to reward those who tried to take Sarah down.
http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/1209/Administration_hires_Palin_foe.html?showall
new avatar test...
Surprise, surprise. Will Obama hire Steve Schmidt or Nicolle Wallace next? Maybe Andree McLeod? Perhaps that's why she continues to file these stupid ethics complaints--she wants a job in the Obama administration.
Oh boy! The Hill has a story about $6 million in stimulus money going to Mark Penn. Remember him? Hillary's campaign manager to whom she owed about $5 million to at the end of her campaign and she couldn't pay if off? Looks like they found a way to pay him... with our money. The Hill site, for some reason, is extremely slow to load today.
http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/71353-mark-penn-got-6-million-from-stimulus
"Nearly $6 million in stimulus money was paid to two firms run by Mark Penn, Hillary Clinton’s pollster in 2008.
Federal records show that $5.97 million from the $787 billion stimulus helped preserve three jobs at Burson-Marsteller, the global public-relations and communications firm headed by Penn."
I know this sounds petty, But did any of you lady's ask Sarah what makeup (foundation) she wear?
She looks great! I'd buy it in a heart beat!
Perhaps that is the sweet deal that Hillary and Obama worked out before she agreed to become his Secretary of State.
The Clintons have been known for a long time to never pay off their own debt. They always count on the rest of us to carrry their load.
This is one of many reasons why people should be very careful in throwing their undying love and support to Hillary.
Now I am REALLY curious...and to think I should try to get a couple of hours of sleep...LOL!!!!
Shape up or become an obsolete party.
More polls: this time from PPP polling on Obama's poll numbers comparing the numbers today with November's:
TODAY NOV
F UF F UF
OVERALL 49 47 49 46
LIBS 87 10 87 4
MODERATES 66 28 62 32
CONSERV 15 81 12 85
WOMEN 54 40 48 47
MEN 42 54 50 45
DEMS 83 14 83 12
GOP 11 84 10 87
INDIES 46 47 47 46
I posted this in another thread -- re: Sarah and a possible third party movement...
<span>RE: Sarah and a third party -- she addressed this very issue in the interview she did with Rush for the December issue of The Limbaugh Letter.
Rush quotes a passage from her book stating that she was a registered Republican and believes in the principles of the Republican party. Then Rush asks, "Therefore, do you worry about the rumblings that I'm hearing about going to a third party and abandoning the GOP?"
Palin: "That's not a practical thing, I think, to consider. And maybe it will disappoint some people to hear that from me. But I believe we should hold out that hope in our own GOP and understand that, again, if the principles are just applied and lived out, the Party is going to be fine. We don't have to go third party. As you mentioned, though, I'm not obsessively partisian. To me, an obessive partisan is someone who will go with the flow, who will scratch backs that are disagreeable in order ot go along to get along. I'm just not wired that way; I can't do it. But certainly I'm proud to be a Republican. Been a Republican since I registered to vote when I was 18, and I truly, sincerely believe that, yes, the planks in the platform are best to build our country."</span>
and she said "trust me", so we did
I believe everytime Obama plays this predictable card, it only makes Governor Palin more resolute.
Sorry, Cruela, I didn't mean to post this under your post. I thought I was starting another one... :)
Bingo!!!!! Behold the fate of the Whigs..who thought they were big ..."wigs"!!!
(CONTINUED)
TODAY NOV
F UF F UF
HISP 74 21 67 31
WHITE 38 57 42 54
A/A 91 9 77 12
OTHER 57 37 60 36
18-29 53 40 58 33
30-45 50 45 50 45
46-65 48 48 51 45
65+ 49 49 33 61
NORTHEAST 59 35 54 42
SOUTH 41 55 46 44
MIDWEST 40 57 46 52
WEST 64 28 53 42
Didn't have time to post on Adrienne's thread the other day regarding the, shall we say, effeminate food throwers in Rochester, NY and Minneapolis.
No wonder they show up afterwards or launch from two stories up. Unless they're stupid in addition to being deranged (I'm positing a distinction), they must know that there are current and former military personnel in the lines, probably an occasional SEAL or Ranger or Marine, whose wrath and skill those losers would not want to face.
Maybe they're counting on the cops to protect their sorry asses. (Sorry, Brianus, eloquence failed.)
Looks cool, defend!!!
Persilly, he was the one touting that Evita comparison in the People magazine this spring. It just goes to show the contempt he has for the oil industry and the state of Alaska,
OH LORD! Can we make it another 3 years> WE NEED SARAH NOW!
http://hotair.com/archives/2009/12/09/breaking-obama-administration-reverses-course-on-tarp/
Now let's compare the PPP poll to results from the average of the Marist/Quinnpiac polls:
PPP MAR/QUIN
F UF F UF
OVERALL 49 47 46 44
LIBS 87 10 80 15
MODERATES 66 28 52 35
CONSERV 15 81 22 70
MEN 42 54 44 49
WOMEN 54 40 49 40
DEMS 83 14 79 14
GOP 11 84 15 78
INDIES 46 47 39 48
LOVE IT, my friend!!!! Eloquence wins---eloquence of the gut!!! What I think of these scum...and that is a kind word...is not printable. BRAVO!!
Especially to my fellow Illinoisans, I must wish you a happy 1st anniversary of Blago's arrest!
Thanks, Lipstick! I use MAC, funny, I hope she does too. The ladies on the XFACTOR in the Uk use MAC. It's in Macy's and Dillards etc... Not as pricey as others though.
Thanks!
(CONTINUED)
PPP MAR/QUINN
F UF F UF
WHITE 38 57 (QUIN) 38 51
HISPANIC 74 21 (QUIN) 65 28
A/A 91 9 (QUIN) 89 6
18-29 53 40 (MAR) 57 28
NORTHEAST 59 35 (MAR) 48 45
MIDWEST 40 57 (MAR) 49 39
SOUTH 41 55 (MAR) 41 50
WEST 64 28 (MAR) 52 40
<span>The </span><span>Goracle</span><span> resonds by taking Sarah's bait!<span> </span></span>
<span><span>Gore: </span>“It’s like gravity. It exists.”</span>
With your blogger name how do you not know all the exact specifics about Sarah's makeup, Lipstick? ;)
http://blogs.suntimes.com/sweet/2009/12/sarah_palin_at_the_gridiron_di_1.html
COMMENTS ON THE ABOVE RESULTS:
1) Clearly the PPP poll of moderates yields a far different result (66% F) than the M/Q (52). I would guess that PPP oversamples moderate democrats and independents and M/Q may oversample moderate Republicans.
2) PPP shows Obama's F at around 46, 47 with INDEPENDENTS while M/Q shows it now at 39 F, which is more reflective of what Rasmussen and Gallup weekly has been showing. PPP is definitely propping up Obama's indie numbers by oversampling liberal and moderate indies and undersampling a growing number of independent conservatives which ironically PPP recently showed now give Sarah Palin a 84 F.
3) Both PPP and M/Q show Obama declining among men F.
4) And surprisingly both PPP show Obama's F among whites at 38%. This is why you have to question PPP's overall F of Obama as high as 49% since white voters make up roughly 3 in 4 American voters. This should indicate that PPP undersamples white voters but PPP clearly states that in today's poll 74% of respondents claimed to be white.
5) The results of the NE, MW and West are all over the place but in the South both PPP and M/Q report Obama's F at 41.
6) Having said that the PPP result for Obama in the midwest is very interesting (40/57). If this is indeed true we may be seeing a preview of the 2012 election: Obama strong in the NE and the West and Palin solid in the Deep South and midwest except for Illinois, extending into the Rocky Mountain states.
Afternoon, just read all the posts and all the comments to catch up, I was very entertained by the stories from Cruela, firelight, Nancy, and Bestbud, did you really kiss Todd Cruela? Better be careful I heard Sarah packs heat :) I heard that Beehive could not make it because of family concerns, family does come first, don't feel too bad Beehive Sarah would have done the same thing if she were in your position, and I couldn't make it to her signings in Ohio (damn final exams) we will get to meet her someday I am sure of it
Palin vs Gore....
Since AlGore was stupid enough to respond, I think its time for a Facebook post regarding the complete inaccuracies and LIES regarding Gore's movie "An Inconvenient Truth" that won him an Oscar from the Hollywood crowd.
He is such a tool.
Whit, love the purse...Otter!! That should make PETA's head spin. It looks like Governor Palin and Todd were having a blast at this event.
As for Barney....well he looks like he was the bride left at the altar.
Does Gore try to claim that the polar bears are still in danger even though there are more of them then ever before? Go away Gore, and take your stupid cable channel with you
Welcome guest....expect to hear from you in the future....pick a name or handle that describes you or that you like or for any reason at all and become a friend of Sarah....the postings under the guest handle just make me think of people who check us out but don't intend to stay. Stay awhile and join in the fun.
Bawney doesn't look to happy wonder why? :)
Oh My Heck. Todd's cumberbund has the dipper and the north star on it.
Wow. That purse is sweet.
Dang it Guv. First the hat. Now the purse.
Please don't let my daughter see the purse. I need to be finished Christmas shopping.
With okra?
Todd is da man! Sarah is a role model for women everywhere, Todd can be a role model for men everywhere especially for young men such as myselk
myself
By the way to show you how ridiculous PPP (D) has become in supporting the Obama agenda in the poll it asks who would you vote for now if an election was held between Obama and George Bush (Obama over Bush 50 to 44). Obama thinks all he has to do is to mention George Bush's name and all of sudden his polls will skyrocket.
Copenhagen is now a "dumb butt liberal" refuge like ANWR, except it is called DBLR.
I think she does it on purpose. It's the physical manifestation of the metaphor of my avatar.
Thanks Whitney....I wanted to get a good look at Todd all dressed up ....Sarah's right, Divorce Todd, have you seen him? He's a hunk......Sarah's a lucky lady.
Sarah's purse looks great...looks like hand made...wouldn't be surprised to find out that it was an Alaskan Native Handicraft...probably made by Todd's relatives as are a lot of the earrings she wears.
At least the beltway boobs had some new, impressive people to see and be jealous of.
Todd's grandmother Lena, has made stuff like this for Sarah before, during the campaign she pointed out some earrings that Todd's grandmother had made for her
The goreacle recently said the earth's core was 2 million degrees. How anyone takes him seriously is mystifying!
I do have to thank him for his wonderful invention that let's me communicate with you all. You know, the internet.
Excuse my misspelling of let's instead of lets, I got a new imac with this little keyboard and am stilling getting used to it.
Everything I've read about the dinner indicates the DC women couldn't stay away from Todd. He was fawned over like he was Pitt or Clooney.
Barney looks like he was having the time of his life...Was he jelous of the purse or was his purple thong riding up?
<span>Barney looks like he was having the time of his life...Was he jelous of the purse or was his purple thong riding up? The world may never know!</span>
Only in my dreams Patrick
http://www.redcountry.com/why-do-jews-vote-democrats
<span><span>Barney looks like he was having the time of his life...Was he jealous of the purse or was his purple thong riding up? The world may never know!</span></span>
Barney got a good look at Sarah's man. He is seething with jealousy.
Yeah I noticed in one of Anrea Mitchell's tweets she refered to Sarah as "Palin" but refered to Todd as"Todd"
The world doesn't want to know
Then you have something in common with Andrea Mitchell NBC News Washington CruelaDev
If anyone is planning on attending the Coeur d'Alene book signing tomorrow and would like to get together you can email me at manajordan@comcast.net
jealous
Todd's Father will be on the Richard Randall show tomorrow starting at 8:30am MTN time. KVOR.com
probably a combination of both, plus he has now seen Todd and is super jealous
Rush talking about Palin now
Think that Sarah's following is increasing?....on November 17th Sarah posted note about reaching 1,000,000 followers on Facebook...now 21 days later, she has 1,093,768 followers.....thats about 4,500 new followers per day
Time to celebrate....Jonathan Martin, the PDS inflicted "writer" from Politico has quit to go to work for ultraliberal Congresswoman Debbie Wassermann Schultz.......good riddance.
Great op-ed in the New York Sun....funny we are starting to see positive articles from people in the oddest places.
http://www.nysun.com/editorials/palinism/86894/
Has anyone heard from Bestbud since the book signing????
I had originally thought about going to the Coeur d'Alene book signing, in addition to the Richland event. However, I now feel that one book signing is enough for the time being. ;^) Besides, it is a 6 hour drive from where I live, and I already drove 4 to attend the Richland event. If I was going, then sure. However, I hope that you will meet up with some other commenters. Have a great time, Manajordan.
sorry to dissapoint you Kjanlady it was was not Jonathan Martin but Jonathan Allen, Martin used to write for National Review I think he is a Romney hack
Brian, your post sounded like the perfect place to repost this!
<span>O/T The libtards are telling their folks that the public ire has died down re the deathcare bill and it's safe to vote for it. Show 'em that's not the case. There's one final rally being held in DC on Tuesday, Dec. 15 at 1:30 p.m. -- the Code Red rally. Please plan to go if at all possible. They're trying to make this the biggest one yet -- since the passage of this "healthcare" bill will fundamentally change our country forever. </span>
Off topic:
I am not very computer smart.How do you get an avatar to appear?
These are the type of Candidates we need to talk up. It is individuals like her that Sarah will need to get anything through the legislative body.
STOP THE PRESSES....WOW....I GOT MY SARAH HAT TODAY....Really quick delivery, of course it is made or distributed from San Diego and I only live 70 miles north of
San Diego. It is so darn cute and fits like a dream. My hubby loves it.
Hey, Everyone check this out & support our troops- Project Red Shirt (read the info section)
Ipsos/Mcclatchy poll released today on Obama's job approval numbers:
F UF
OVERALL 49 (53) 49 (43)
DEMS 77 21
GOP 16 81
INDEPENDENTS 41 (45) 55 (41)
NB: That's a drop of 18 points overall in indie F/UF since the last poll done around the end of October
By the way in case you don't remember here is what CNN said about Sarah's recent standing among indies:
"INDEPENDENTS are EVENLY DIVIDED on Palin. According to the poll, 51% of men see her in a positive light, with an nearly equal amount of women view Palin in a negative way."
Now here are Obama's Indie F/UF from the last 5 polls reported in the last 2 days:
F UF
IPSOS 41 55
QUINNPIAC 37 51
PPP 46 47
MARIST 41 44
GALLUP 42
It doesn't take a genius to figure out that Obama is really glad the election is 3 years off for his job.
Back breaker for Obama. This is one of those liberal leaning polls that favor him.
Interesting comment by David Boaz at the Cato Institute who thinks the WAPO decision to run two op-eds this year by Sarah Palin amounts to a subversive effort to brand her as the GOP's leader (GOP 12 take).
Perhaps David it simply a case where WAPO wants to increase its readership and to make more money. Have you ever heard of a concept called capitalism?
From GOP 12 headline:
"Santorum Camp Courts Huck Supporters"
Borrowing from Rush Limbaugh as to why she (Michele Bachmann) elicits so much outrage and loathing among liberals:
"I don't know. I'm a loveable little fuzz ball!"
Joke poll of the day by bloomberg.com:
F UF
OBAMA 58 38
SARAH PALIN 39 49
Does anybody really believe that Obama is now 30 points ahead of Palin presently?
No. Last time Bloomberg ran their polls I asks for the details and didn't get it. Clearly had something to hide. Also as bad as this is their last poll had Sarah's unfavorbilities at 55%. That is a huge drop.
Seth Adam Smith was at Costco today. Hopefully he has a report.
The wigs are blind dunces. They don't seem to grasp that people are disgusted with them because THE HOUSE IS ON FIRE AND THEY SEEM TO THINK IT''S NORMAL! It pains me that all I can do is contact my dunderheaded elected reps and state my positions. They don't seem to care. They're in the club, and the whiskey is good, the buffet never ending.
The PPP blog now trying to make a huge point that LIBERALS, despite anecdotes to the contrary are NOT unhappy with Obama (95% approval among liberal Democrats). This is a complete red herring.
The point which I and several pollsters have been making over the last couple of months is that INDEPENDENTS have been fleeing from Obama. I don't remember reading anywhere about the Far Left deserting Obama. This is an effort to invent a story where no story existed in the first place.
Bill Kristol, editor of the Weekly Standard claims Reid does not have 60 votes to elude a filibuster on the health bill. Lieberman appears to be the fly in the ointment.
As most ordinary barbarian probably know John McCain received some funding from George Soros; while it just has been disclosed on FR that McCain was the keynote speaker at an ACORN rally re: comprehensive immigration reform in Feb 2006.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2404100/posts
riley4Palin wrote,
"<span>Palin vs Gore....
Since AlGore was stupid enough to respond, I think its time for a Facebook post regarding the complete inaccuracies and LIES regarding Gore's movie "An Inconvenient Truth" that won him an Oscar from the Hollywood crowd.
He is such a tool."</span>
<span></span>
<span>I agree. He's not even a sharp tool either. lol</span>
<span>He</span> was supposed to be the belle of the ball!! Waaaa!!
He reminds me of the stepsisters in the Cinderella story.
The women in the background of the Barney - Sarah photo look catty.
Maybe Andrea is in that bunch.
CBS/NYT poll on Obama's job approval:
F UF
OVERALL 50 (53) 39
DEMS 82 12
GOP 19 70
INDIES 43 (45) 41 (40)
1031 ADULTS; D: 36; R: 27; I: 37
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