Monday, February 1, 2010

Krauthammer Echoes Palin



In August 2009 Charles Krauthammer wrote a bizarre article for the Washington Post on the topic of “death-panels” where he asked that Governor Palin “leave the room” arguing that there are no “death panels in the Democratic health care bill”. In the next paragraph of the same article he goes on to explain exactly why the bill does contain said “death panels”. C4P smacked this down here and here.

It seems that Dr Krauthammer has turned around and now agrees with most if not all of Governor Palin’s positions. During her appearance with Greta Van Susteren this past Thursday discussing the State of the Union address, Governor Palin made various statements in describing her views of the speech. Three days later Charles Krauthammer echoed the governor on Fox News Sunday:


ON BIPARTISANSHIP:

Greta: So if you were the president, would you call the Speaker and say, you know, Tone it down? Is that something that you would suggest that he do?

PALIN: Absolutely. And if I were the president, I'd say, You know, yes, you're right. We moved too fast. We did not do a bipartisan approach, as I had promised to do. And we're going to back up and we're going to do this right now. But we didn't hear that last night. We didn't hear that again today. So I don't think that it's kind of in their political DNA to even arrive at that point of being able to back up, be gracious about it, be humble about it, be sensible about it, and I'm talking about Reid, Pelosi and President Obama[.]


WALLACE: Do you see a practical, a realistic possibility of compromises with the two parties coming together on some of these great issues and do you sense any political will on either side to do so?

KRAUTHAMMER: No and no [...] I think he [President Obama] has not learnt I think he has not changed he remains an ideologue and I don’t see a pivot [.]


ON HEALTHCARE:

PALIN: The State of the Union address did not help. There was a lot of lecturing, a lot of finger-pointing. And obviously, it wasn't just to the opposition party in, I think, President Obama's mind.
But you know, there was finger-pointing, too, and against the Supreme Court Justices who were there in the audience, and to the American public, with kind of a condescending tone there coming from the White House that made us feel like we're not intelligent enough to have understood what the president was trying to explain about health care, when, in reality, no, we understand that one sixth of our economy being enveloped by government is something that we do not want. We don't want government takeover of our health care system. That's what we have been saying. But the president still disconnected, not getting it.


KRAUTHAMMER: The State of the Union address he explains healthcare in saying, well this is a very complex bill and he didn’t explain it enough. He gave 29 speeches on healthcare, it’s a condescending idea that somehow the electorate - truck driving God clinging electorate – doesn’t understand the complexities and sophistication of this new liberal agenda. It’s not that. It was rejected it wasn’t that it was misunderstood that’s why I think he doesn’t get it.


ON THE JOBS BILL

PALIN: How are jobs going to be created when you talk about cap and tax, which is taxing energy, which will prohibit more developments across our nation, when you talk about the second jobs bill, which is a stimulus bill, more spending, which is going to require tax increases to pay for these things. How in the world is that going to help the middle class? How will that help job creation?


KRAUTHAMMER: Again it was healthcare, it was education, federalising college education and energy, he said he wants a climate bill, after all of this and of course at the centre as you said the first half was what is now, what is a stimulus package he calls it now, its renamed, it’s called a jobs bill he understood that the PR last year wasn’t smart in jobs he had a stimulus last year he’s having another one this year [.]



This is not about going after Dr Krauthammer. He is a smart intellectual man, a staunch conservative and highly respected. But the fact that he lives in the beltway doesn’t necessarily mean he has to act like it. Smart people attract other smart people and it is obvious that the Governor and Dr Krauthammer agree on most issues and express themselves as such. I look forward to welcoming him and other smart and intelligent people back into the room.

38 comments:

RINO-Hunter,  February 2, 2010 12:18 AM  

Wow.  I wonder if he'll ever give her credit for any of it.

Whitney the Pipsqueak,  February 2, 2010 12:19 AM  

Sheya,
  This was an amazing video.

Sarah will gladly let Charles into the room. He'll just have to accept that there are moose head mounted to the wall as decoration.

MarkRNY,  February 2, 2010 12:20 AM  

Not in a million Ivy League, elitist years.

Way to go Sheya!

Whitney the Pipsqueak,  February 2, 2010 12:21 AM  

<span>Sheya, 
  This was an amazing video. 
 
Sarah will gladly let Charles into the room. He'll just have to accept that there are moose heads mounted to the wall as decoration.</span>

Nancy,  February 2, 2010 12:22 AM  

Sheya,
You da man!:)

Whitney the Pipsqueak,  February 2, 2010 12:25 AM  

Wow, watching the clips from that discussion with Greta, she really is so passionate talking about this stuff. I love it! I'm getting really excited for her speech on Saturday. This is one of the first speeches we will get to see in a long time, and no one can give a speech like she can. I'm so glad that there will be video!

Wildmanbill,  February 2, 2010 12:25 AM  

He will never give her any credit because Krauthammer is a Romney fan.
On one of these panels, Charles was asked who should be the republican nominee in '12 and he said Romney because he is "refreshingly dull". His words if I'm not mistaken. if they werent the words they were very similar.

PatrickinOH,  February 2, 2010 12:28 AM  

Thanks Sheya.  I too look forward to the day when Sarah and the Krautman will meet, I have a feeling that they would really hit it off.  I remember reading an article in NR back in November.  It was the one with CKon the front cover.  He said when Reagan first came on the scene he didn't take Reagan intellectually serious and he admitted he was wrong about Reagan.  This was in the days of him being a lefty.  Me thinks he is underestimating Sarah as well. 

BTW, Adrienne Ross had a post on Mark Begich now it's gone.

RINO-Hunter,  February 2, 2010 12:28 AM  

That's par for the course with elitists.  Just like David Brooks supporting ObaMao because of the perfect creases in his pants.

PatrickinOH,  February 2, 2010 12:38 AM  

Never mind it's back up now.

Recovering Democrat,  February 2, 2010 12:38 AM  

CK was a lefty? Ha ha ... I guess there are quite a few of us. Funny how there are very few conservatives who go liberal. Arlen and Jeffords. Well, maybe Andrew Sullivan.

Oh, and Pat did you like 24 tonight???

narciso,  February 2, 2010 12:41 AM  

He used to write speeches for Mondale 25 years ago, so there is room for change in most everyone, One notices that Romnety and Huckabee don't make these sorts of arguments,
yet she does, Then again I don't think they've read Sowell or seen the application of Alinsky
that close up.

PatrickinOH,  February 2, 2010 12:42 AM  

Yes he was back in the day RD.  He actually worked as a speechwriter on Walter Mondale's lame Presidential campaign.  I liked it pretty good, I agree with you that Taylor's COS kinda reminds me of Emmanuel.  I liked the part at the end where Jack is talking to those guys in German then before they can take him out, Agent Ortiz takes the guys out with a sniper rifle.  That Russian guy is one bad dude.

PatrickinOH,  February 2, 2010 12:43 AM  

What do you think of President Taylor?  She reminds me a bit of Hillary, definately not a Sarah Palin.

MarkRNY,  February 2, 2010 12:45 AM  

Have a feeling that it's going to be one for the ages. This is a HUGE speech for her (and the country) and she's had a lot of time to get it ready. Hold onto your hats!

Sheya,  February 2, 2010 12:48 AM  

Thank you guys for those and all of your nice comments in the other threads.

A lot has been going on lately and too distortions are coming afloat, and with the political season in full swing, you can bet it’s just going to get worse.

There are over 300 Million people in the country with 40% considering themselves to be conservatives, which is 120 Million people everyone with different opinions. With the decisions the Governor is going to make she is bound to hurt some feelings. No matter which side she’s on and whom she endorses the people on the other side are going to feel let down and there is going to be a lot of misinformation popping up.

We have to be at the top of our game for the next couple of months and wherever we can make the case that Governor Palin is on the side of true conservatism and that most of the respected conservatives agree with her – whether they know it or not – we’ll have to bring that front and centre.

As for me I don’t know much about the Kentucky race or many other races for that matter – other than what I pick up here - I mean how many politicians can one guy follow? Governor Palin is good for me and I follow her lead.  I’ll just say this about her endorsements. I don’t know the why’s, the when’s and the what’s that go into her decision making process but I do know that Governor Palin knows the controversy that will arise with every endorsement she makes so I’m confident that each one is well thought out.

I have a message for anyone who is or has been a supporter of the Governor and feels let down by a particular endorsement. Think about this, why have you been a supporter of the Governor? What attracted you to her in the first place? Is it her policies, her stand on issues, her social philosophy ot is it just her good looks? If it’s the first than an endorsement you don’t agree with shouldn’t change your opinion of her, you may not like it, but you trusted her till now, i believe you can trust she knows what she’s doing.

If it is the later and you supported her just because she has a pretty face, my question is, do you really know why your supporting the candidate of your choice, is it really the issues or is that they too just have a pretty face.

It’s a free country and everyone is entitled to their opinion and that’s what democracy is all about, you vote for the candidate of your choice, but don’t tell me you always loved the Governor but just because she supported the wrong guy she has suddenly lost all her values.

If you think that you dropped the governor just because she didn’t support they candidate of your choice, you’re wrong. Governor Palin dropped YOU because YOU didn’t support the candidate of her choice.  Does this make sense? Of course not, but neither does it make sense that you dropped her because she doesn’t like your guy.

Too much rambling had to get it of my chest

PatrickinOH,  February 2, 2010 12:50 AM  

I see no rambling here Sheya.  Couldn't have said it better myself.

MarkRNY,  February 2, 2010 12:52 AM  

That wasn't rambling Sheya. You just helped me get it off MY chest! Thanks.

Whitney the Pipsqueak,  February 2, 2010 12:53 AM  

Well said, Sheya. Thank you.

Sheya,  February 2, 2010 12:54 AM  

Excuse the spelling and grammar errors, typing to fast. JS-KIT needs to add spell check

MarkRNY,  February 2, 2010 12:57 AM  

Yeah, watch that speling.

Whitney the Pipsqueak,  February 2, 2010 1:01 AM  

RD,
  Has your husband had his test yet?

PatrickinOH,  February 2, 2010 1:11 AM  

I just realized that I've stayed up way too long.  I have an 8 AM class tomorrow so heading to bed now.  Sorry once again for the sandra impersonation, it seemed to have upset quite a few people here tonight. 

Good night everyone, God bless!

Anonymous,  February 2, 2010 1:16 AM  

I think it's pretty clear that given she joined the cast last season for the Nov 2008 24 movie and Jan 2009 Season 7 debut, that the producers and writers were counting on Hillary wining and that Taylor would serve as her stand in on the show.  Looks/demeanor wise she's clearly supposed to be Hillary.

Although I think on the show she's actually a Republican since the last President was a dem and she beat him in the election.

But 24 was ahead of the curve with Pres Palmer and Obama so if they're ahead of the curve with another different type of President I'm ok with that.

Who knows, maybe with her new FOX deal, something will happen to Taylor later in the season and we'll be introduced to a new cast member, her younger sister who's brought in to handle some crisis.

PatrickinOH,  February 2, 2010 1:18 AM  

Yes, but again Barack Obama is no David Palmer.  David Palmer was a man of integrity as demonstrated by that exchange with Charles Logan at the end of season 4.

Anonymous,  February 2, 2010 1:26 AM  

I think if you read a number of the things she's said and showed them to people without identifying who it was who said them, most people wouldn't find them objectionable in any way.  But when they know it's from her, they react differently.  Unfortunately there's still a perception out there among many that was fostered by a few bad answers out of 1000s of questions.

She needs to figure out a way to undo some of the damage they did and get more people to take her seriously.  There's plenty of time and I think she can do it.  Also, the political climate appears to be shifting and if things go well for the GO pthat will be a much better atmosphere for her, or any other Republican for that matter.  Already the public actually appears to agree with her on a number of the big issues of the day.  Health care, terrorist trials, the deficit and debt, etc...  It'll be about getting people to recoginze that and to come up with an attractive agenda of her own.  

If she even wants to be President, that is.  Why would you?  No matter what you do half the country or more despises you, your family and friends become instant targets 24/7 and get subjected to unrelenting abuse, the opposition stops at nothing to take you down at every turn.  You lose all privacy.  She'd make far less money than she stands to.  Less time with your kids and husband and family and they all appear very important to her.  In the end, being President seems to be more trouble than it's worth.  I don't think I'd want to be President.

I wouldn't be surrised if she continues to remain influential on the political stage but in the end decides she'd rather stay with Todd and the kids and have some semblance of a normal life.

Recovering Democrat,  February 2, 2010 1:27 AM  

Well, Taylor beat the guy who was Wayne Palmer's VP ... Daniels???

I didn't think about that. So, Taylor IS Republican. Hmmm ....

I like that. She seems very strong.

I am lamenting the fact that there is too much of the Kevin character. I can't stand him. Can someone please shoot him. Oh, and we need more Freddie Prinz. Loved the way he defended Jack from the plot to take him out. Nice little sniper action.

Before that scene, hubby and I were asking: "Ok, how's Jack gonna survive this?"

We should have known better :-)

rae4palin,  February 2, 2010 1:28 AM  

Kraut is not a "staunch conservative."  He advocates the government confiscate all privately held firearms.

Recovering Democrat,  February 2, 2010 1:30 AM  

Sarah is engaged in hand-to-hand combat with the Obots. She's got the scars to prove it, and she is so much more in tune with "We the People."

I like Romney and Huckabee a lot. I know some people find fault with them for one thing or another.

But all things being equal: Sarah is more in tune with the Zietgeist.

Recovering Democrat,  February 2, 2010 1:34 AM  

Next Monday and Tuesday ... He had to reschedule due to an error made by the testing center. So irritating. Thanks for asking, Whit. We can still use the prayers.

Funny thing: Hubby is a psychiatrist. Just like Charles Krauthammer. Ha! (Here's praying that my sweetie can continue to be a psychiatrist, and that CK can analyze his clinical cluelessness about Gov. Palin)

Recovering Democrat,  February 2, 2010 1:53 AM  

Populist winds favor Sarah. Tea Party movement (finally being accepted as a "real" phenomenon by media pundits and liberals) favors Sarah. Huge gov't debt favors Sarah.

In my book ... the entire situation in the country right now including the narcissist in the Oval Office favors Sarah becoming president.

I can't wait to see how this all plays out ... but Sarah just seems destined to be the yin to Obama's yang. She is his natural rival in a way that Mitt, Huck and the others can't match.

techno,  February 2, 2010 3:35 AM  

I think Charles K is a little ticked off since the beginning of January because Fox News imho has an unwritten rule, which is that you don't on air attack one of your colleagues that works at Fox News. So Charles K can no longer bring Palin up into the conversation or address issues as related to a possible Presidential run or if he does he has to walk a fine line because he knows the unwritten rule and thus can no longer become vicious in his criticism of Palin. 

Did you notice how Fox News came to Huckabee's defense over the clemency issue? I don't think that escaped Palin's notice. If anything Palin needed going forward is an ongoing platform in which she could express her views to as wide an audience as possible and at the same time provide her with a port in a storm or a sanctuary that would provide her protection and rally to her defense or at least not eviscerate her when severe criticism or ridicule were directed her way.

Yes, in early January many political pundits speculated on the benefits that would accrue to Palin due to her frequent appearances of Fox News (exposure, political legitimacy, money), but few dwelled on the above idea. This is what iconclasts do-think outside the box.

As for Fox News, they are capitalists. They know a ratings bonanza when they see it, even if pundits like Charles K, Mort Kondracke and the like grumble about Palin's hiring at the water cooler or while taking a leak.

techno,  February 2, 2010 3:53 AM  

Guest:

I will address two points you made. First that "Sarah needs to figure out a way to undo some of the damage they (MSM) did and get more people to take her seriously." Guest, where have you been for the last 2 and 1/2 months? On a desert island playing Robinson Crusoe or like the actors of Lost. C'mon man, what do you think Going Rogue and the Going Rogue tour was all about? Sure many people focus on the money but if you have studied Palin like I have for the last 18 months, she is not about the money; this is all about taking back her country and saving its soul and short-circuiting Obama and his radical agenda. Everything is geared to that. That is what got the trolls out in force recently and driving the Obama war room and the GOP establishment crazy-the lady is a relentless, a fighter and is on a mission, and nothing on God's green earth is going to stop her from achieving her goal of destroying the Far Left and the Obama presidency. By the way Kos is coming out with a 2012 presidential poll today and in that poll 53% of Republicans claim Palin is MORE qualified to be POTUS now than Obama.

And your arguments why Palin will not run for POTUS is BS, condescending and sexist. You would not make the same arguments if Palin was a man. Palin, for the umpteenth time is a major player in GOP politics currently; she is not going anywhere. She has a game plan for 2010, but do you really believe if Palin can help orchestrate a huge GOP victory in the midterms that she will suddenly suspend all her political plans, become the next Oprah or retreat to Alaska and never be heard from again. That's not realistic. Palin loves her country too much to see it go permanently Marxist. Don't for a second doubt the grit and determination of a Sarah Palin. And finally what makes Palin a superstar is her enjoyment of competition against the GOP establishment and Obama and the Far Left and her ability to perform on cue at a high level every time she is in public or on stage. Nobody chucks that away so they can watch Romney or Huckabee fight it out for the GOP nomination.

CTSherman,  February 2, 2010 6:43 AM  

Thank you, Sheya. 

JeanA,  February 2, 2010 7:48 AM  

techo,  It may be condescending and sexist but that is just the way it is.  Sarah will have to keep pounding the fact that Todd is now a full time stay at home "MOM" and they have always had a 50/50 relationship with the care of the children.  That is life in Alaska.  We are equals.

CharterOakie,  February 2, 2010 9:27 AM  

Sheya - great side by side comparison of SP's and CK's recent comments, nicely done!

Sarah was fantastic in that interview on Greta.

BTW, agree, spell check would be a great addition here.

CharterOakie,  February 2, 2010 9:33 AM  

Nicole - that's extremely well stated.  Agree completely.

hrh,  February 2, 2010 1:23 PM  

So why doesn't Romney forgo politics and settle down with his wife, who has been ill, I believe, and their sons?

Or Huckabee with his wife and their kids? Then he won't have to watch his weight anymore.

You see how ridiculous those kinds of arguments are against Palin when they're not made against the men?

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