Monday, February 22, 2010

Time Magazine: But can Palin be elected?



For several decades, it has been an article of faith among politicians and political analysts that no candidate can win a U.S. presidential election unless he can dominate the broad center of the spectrum, that all candidates on the edges of the left or right are doomed. Barry Goldwater's "extremism . . . is no vice" campaign of 1964 provides the classic evidence, reinforced by George McGovern's 1972 defeat in 49 out of 50 states. And since G.O.P. Front Runner Sarah Palin relies upon a base of support that is on the far right wing of the Republican Party, some experts have long declared that if she wins the nomination, the G.O.P. would simply be repeating the suicidal Goldwater campaign.

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National opinion polls continue to show Obama leading Palin by an apparently comfortable margin of about 25%. They also show that more moderate Republicans like Romney would run better against the President. This suggests that Palin is not the strongest G.O.P. choice for the 2012 election and that she clearly faces an uphill battle.

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If popular unhappiness with domestic and world problems finally comes to rest at Obama's doorstep, voters may begin to see all sorts of previously invisible virtues in Sarah Palin.

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Palin cannot hope to win, however, unless she moves beyond the hard-line conservative base that has sustained her since she first appeared on the national political scene as a spokesman for McCain himself. She has no experience in Washington politics or foreign affairs. Both Congress and the federal bureaucracy are as unfathomable to her as they were to Obama. Indeed one of Palin's major supporters in the Senate notes that the Alaskan is uncomfortable even visiting Washington.

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Worse perhaps than the verbal gaffe is Palin's relentlessly simple-minded discussion of complex problems.

Full disclosure: I may have changed a few names here and there. It's not actually Gov. Palin this Time Magazine article's talking about here, but Ronald Reagan. Yes, the Gipper was really running 25 points behind Carter as late as March 1980 - a mere eight months before the election. Simple statements, no experience in DC politics or foreign affairs, supported only by the rightwing fringe - completely unelectable, that Reagan fellow, wasn't he?

Read the whole thing here.

H/t: anonymous.


151 comments:

Dan C,  February 22, 2010 11:21 AM  

Reading that was amazing. It is uncanny how the attacks against Sarah are identical to the ones used against Reagan. And Sarah is only down 7 or so to Obama. This needs to make the rounds.

AKReport,  February 22, 2010 11:22 AM  

25% WTF? PPP shows her only down 7%

AKReport,  February 22, 2010 11:22 AM  

this needs a fact check.

terri,  February 22, 2010 11:24 AM  

Joshua....You sly devil you.

I was just getting ready to rant....and then I read the last paragraph.
HaHa...you almost got me.....almost.

section9,  February 22, 2010 11:29 AM  

Oh my God, I was completely taken in. 

Email this to George Will. Rub his nose in it. My God in heaven, they were using the same template then with Reagan that they are now using with Palin.

Jesus. Or as Marx once remarked, "History tends to repeat itself, the first time as tragedy, the second time as farce."

Whitney the Pipsqueak,  February 22, 2010 11:34 AM  

Sarah Palin--the Amiable Duncess

Dan C,  February 22, 2010 11:36 AM  

AK, I think that was what Reagan was down to Carter back then according to polls.

Steven,  February 22, 2010 11:46 AM  

That's funny. But that article is uncanny and really had me fooled about it being about Reagan rather than Sarah. It also endeared me more to Sarah because it is her simplicity and her outside the Beltway persona that gives her major credibility. I just think that with this administration doggedly pursuing this suicidal left wing agenda in the face of public opposition with their health care scheme and mounting evidence of fraud with their global warming agenda, that Sarah Palin will indeed become more and more appealing for her refreshing candor, patriotism, optimism, and her message of energy independence to rebuild this great country. Can't wait for the 2012 campaign.

Al B.,  February 22, 2010 11:52 AM  

Good find, Joshua.

It was even worse than that for Reagan going into the 1980 NH GOP primary.  The Bush campaign was flying high coming out of Iowa and Reagan was on the ropes.  Craig Shirley, in his great book on the 1980 campaign on page 127, recounts how the Republican National Committee and state parties were surveyed and heavily favored Bush, wanting a "philosophical moderate."  Shirley recounts that one RNC state chairman said that Reagan's intellect was "thinner than spit on a slate rock."

Reagan turned it around in NH with personal barnstorming and a Bush campaign screw-up in the NH debate.

It really is dejavu all over again.

GAHanson,  February 22, 2010 11:52 AM  

Excellent, and it explains just why 0bama has stayed in campaign mode, and why Palin continues to be the target of his minions in the media.

Seabee,  February 22, 2010 11:55 AM  

Section9,

If I recall correctly, George Will is Reagan supporter and a family friend.

riley4palin,  February 22, 2010 11:59 AM  

Elitist Extraordinaire Richard Stengel, editor-in-chief of Time Magazine and regular MSNBC guest being fact-checked by C4P to show the correlation between Reagan and Palin and how they use the same Dem talking points from 30 years ago.

Delicious.

Has well-known Plagerism Expert/Pulitizer Prize Winner/Historian/Biography/NBC/MSNBC regular guest/Liberal Doris Kearns Goodwin been asked by the LSM yet to write the rebuttal Op-Ed in Tuesday's Washinton Post against this C4P contributor?

Steven,  February 22, 2010 12:10 PM  

I like the last part of the article that got to the meat and potatoes. It said that Carter only beat Ford by 56 electoral votes and that if Reagan held on to all the states Ford won and flipped a few other states like Texas, etc, he would be the next president of the U.S. Is there any doubt that if Palin holds on to all the states McCain won and flips a few states that in the past traditionally voted for the GOP like FL, VA, OH, IN, CO, IA, NV, and NC that she will be president of the U.S? Is this really out of the realm of possibility with the polling in these states on Obama? And besides I frankly think that Palin can finally lead a GOP breakthrough in the Great Lakes adding Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania (though that is always seemingly elusive for the GOP because of shenanigans in Philadelphia). She wins one of those three in addition to the ones I mentioned above that are winnable, she wins (NH and NM are unlikely to flip though you never know, see Massachusetts going Scott Brown). So I don't buy the media spin and the early polling because we all know that it will come down to whether Palin wins the GOP nomination, what's Obama's approval numbers in September 2012, what's the unemployment rate, what's the price of gas in 2012, and how well Palin runs her campaign in terms of messages, etc.  Campaigns matter not media pundits and I think Palin has the skills to mount a great campaign and I think Obama is so ardently left-wing that he is providing plenty of fodder for her to use to define a new path for America prosperity.

Whitney the Pipsqueak,  February 22, 2010 12:11 PM  

I'm reading Ronald Reagan and Margaret Thatcher: A Political Marriage right now. That coupled with much of what else I've read, it's amazing the similarities amongst the three of them. I'm trying to play catch up on all of this Reagan/Thatcher knowledge as I was either unborn or very young during the Reagan and Thatcher administrations. My assessment of things is coming from the opposite direction. Rather than seeing how much Governor Palin is like Reagan and Thatcher, I'm seeing how much Reagan and Thatcher are like Sarah. I don't want to diminish Reagan and Thatcher's national accomplishments by that comparision, as Sarah has yet to hold a national office to potentially match their accomplishments (I mean no disrepect at all to Sarah in saying this). However, I can't wait to see what Sarah accomplishes in such a position if she becomes President (Lord willing)!

A,  February 22, 2010 12:17 PM  

http://www.azcentral.com/news/election/azelections/articles/2010/02/22/20100222mccain-tarp0222.html

McCain is/was really for/against TARP.

CTSherman,  February 22, 2010 12:18 PM  

Excellent post Joshua. Sometimes even Time magazine can offer inspiration;)

Bill in Baltimore,  February 22, 2010 12:20 PM  

<span>Ok folks, I need your help 
 
I'm being told by my Wash contact that because no other Governor has EVER resigned other than for a jailable offense, this is de factor proof that Gov Palin couldn't stand the heat in the kitchen, and proves she is not able to deal with challenges. 
 
I'm also being told that Sarah can't ignore history, resign with a flimsy argument, and then expect to be taken seriously because she is telegenic. 
 
I'm also told that of 1,000 conservative activists, they would say Sarah has an ego bigger than George Will. 
 
Can you help me ? I can argue on Sarah's record, but not on what big conservatives might be saying.</span>

section9,  February 22, 2010 12:26 PM  

You recall correctly, which makes his astonishing lack of historical memory all the more amazing.

riley4palin,  February 22, 2010 12:30 PM  

Bill:

Your "big consersative" friends and Washington contacts give me a headache.

I am glad I live far away from Washington. 

A,  February 22, 2010 12:30 PM  

"Press conferences are scary.

http://washingtontimes.com/news/2010/feb/22/obama-tops-bushs-record-for-putting-reporters-on-h/?feat=home_headlines

"<span>The president has seemingly shunned formal, prime-time sessions since his last disastrous presser, when he said police in Cambridge, Mass., "acted stupidly" by arresting a Harvard professor who broke into a home that turned out to be his own. The off-the-cuff comment took over the news cycle for a week, overshadowing his push for health care reform, and culminated in a White House "Beer Summit," where the president hosted white police officer James Crowley and the black Harvard professor, Henry Louis Gates Jr.</span>
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<p>"He does seem a little snakebit on the whole presser thing," said Julie Mason, a longtime White House reporter and board member of the White House Correspondents' Association.
</p><p>"At his last big press conference in July, he lost control of the message with his response to the Gates question, and then returns six months later with an unannounced, five-question avail in the briefing room - on a snow day. Was it something we said?"
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riley4palin,  February 22, 2010 12:32 PM  

Bill:

Your "big conservative" friends and Washington contacts give me a headache.

I am glad I live far away from Washington DC.

Whitney the Pipsqueak,  February 22, 2010 12:33 PM  

Technically, Sebelius, Napolitano, Huntsman all resigned to take government jobs. Why is it looked down upon when someone resigns because she and her staff were stymied by baseless ethics charges that cost the state a ton of money? Why is it looked down on when resigning gave her a bigger megaphone to provide ciriticism of the Obama administration and offer solutions on health care (tort reform, purchasing across state lines), energy independence (drill and use nuclear energy appropriately), and tax cuts. Turn the question around to them in this way.

Remind them too that DC only account for a few million of the votes, not all of the votes.

As far as Sarah ego, people who think that are either projecting, are jealous, or mistake extroversion and crowd appeal for ego. Does someone with an ego say they will run "if people will have me"? No. Does a person with an ego refer to her gubernatorial accomplishments by using plural not singular pronouns? No. Does a person with an ego make fun of themselves regarding "handgate"? No.

These are just a few thoughts, Bill.

BostonBruin,  February 22, 2010 12:33 PM  

The last year or two that Mitt Romney was Gov. of Mass. he spent a significant time out of the state in campaign more. That is worse, IMO since he left the state w/o a governor. And you could make the case that Obama accomplished nothing for the people of Illinois as a Senator; he only used them as a stepping stone to the WH.

Let's wait and see what happens this November. If Gov. Palin is very instrumental in "draining the swamp", then more people might understand why she resigned.

A,  February 22, 2010 12:33 PM  

Nonsense.

Who is the Gov. of AZ.... KN.... ?

Why are they the Governor?

Governors quit all the time.

Who will be the Gov. of ND in one year?  Why?

Such balderdash.

BostonBruin,  February 22, 2010 12:34 PM  

<span>The last year or two that Mitt Romney was Gov. of Mass. he spent a significant time out of the state in campaign mode. That is worse, IMO since he left the state w/o a governor. And you could make the case that Obama accomplished nothing for the people of Illinois as a Senator; he only used them as a stepping stone to the WH. 
 
Let's wait and see what happens this November. If Gov. Palin is very instrumental in "draining the swamp", then more people might understand why she resigned.</span>

A,  February 22, 2010 12:35 PM  

What do they say the Gov. of UT did, flee to China?

MarkRNY,  February 22, 2010 12:35 PM  

So, as O's crashing and burning they're "concerned" about whether Sarah's electable. O can stay as radical left as he wants, but the Repubs, who we all know Time cares deeply about, have to worry about the "Center"--political analysts say so. Sarah Palin--Extremist.

Of course they're doing the same to her as they did to Reagan. They've got nothing left. These headlines are going to be worth their weight in gold as they keep coming out--and they WILL keep coming out--for the primary even more than the election.

Good a man as Goldwater was, he was doctrinaire and had the charisma of a head cold. Reagan and Sarah could light up a stadium. Of course the answer to TIME is that a gifted politician brings the Center over to them. Problem is that too many on "our side" fall for this crap or outright promote it--and they all seem to have microphones . That'll change.

Keep going TIME, etc. You've been weighed in the scales and found wanting. You're going down with your Manchurian Candidate. I take this headline as GREAT news! They're going through Depends the way Pelosi goes through face lifts.

Now TIME is a "concern" troll!  

Not Much,  February 22, 2010 12:35 PM  

So what do you all make of the evidence posted on The Immoral Minority this morning.

You have to admit the evidence is compelling(unless you are totally blind). Birth defects dont just go away...hmmmm.

But I would love to hear someone try and explain how Trigs defects to his ears when born magically disappeared in a couple of months. A few different doctors were consulted Jesse Cornish, and they all say it is impossible for this to happen. Plus a Google search would verify this fact.

Come on any takers... Sarah's not gonna help you out with this one so I really want to know how you explain away this oddity.

Was it prayer warriors, miracles from God, plastic surgery? Well not plastic surgery because a doctor wouldnt do it that early and scars would have been visible on the campaign trail.

MarkRNY,  February 22, 2010 12:36 PM  

Rush dissing CPAC!

Not Much,  February 22, 2010 12:38 PM  

Well, instead of fighting to change the ethics laws she chose to quit. She cant run from that. She had other choices, she made hers. For a POTUS run it was an extremely bad decision.

section9,  February 22, 2010 12:38 PM  

Understand something: most people in Washington have a stake in Romney and won't be convinced of Palin's bona fides until she actually does two things:

1. Begins an actual campaign and hires a real, honest-to-God Campaign staff. Right now, that is NOT happening. This is the source of a lot of skepticism. The "resignation" thing is a rationalization for that. If and when Palin shows the national party people that she is serious about running by putting together a national political apparatus with serious Adults running a national campaign who can overwhelm the likes of Axelrod and Plouffe, the "resignation" arguement will fall away. Campaigns change everything.

2. Puts together a national program for economic recovery that is both Reaganesque and creates a clear, intellectual contrast to the Obamist Regime. It must be bold, it must be real, and it must pass the smell test.

Nobody cares about the checklist that Mittens is putting out in his campaign book, because that's what conventional politicians do. However, Palin will be held to a different standard because she's Obama's doppelganger. That's not fair, but guess what, that is what it is.

It gives Palin a bigger stage and a bigger megaphone. If she isn't ready to be Reagan, she might as well go home. She's expected to lead. Not follow, and not tinker around at the edges. She will either carry the Party, then the country, with a clear, contrasting vision for change or she will not. But there must be meat added to the bone. 

Reagan went to the nation with a clear program. So must Palin. Her SRLC speech must be both soaring and meaty. It will be her one chance to show the party that she means business.

She won't get a second chance.

terri,  February 22, 2010 12:38 PM  

^^^riley,  thank-you!

Sarah quitting will ALWAYS be brought up.....it's just an easy excuse for them because they don't have anything else.

Not Much,  February 22, 2010 12:40 PM  

<span>Well, instead of fighting to change the ethics laws she chose to quit. She cant run from that. She had other choices, she made hers. For a POTUS run it was an extremely bad decision.</span>
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<span>Plus she is not going to run anyway, she knows she cant win. She needs people to believe she will though so that she can siphon as much money from your pockets while she still can.</span>

terri,  February 22, 2010 12:40 PM  

Because he doesn't have the answers on the  teleprompter. He can't speak off the cuff so to speak.

MarkRNY,  February 22, 2010 12:43 PM  

I'll never forget this--on the day Reagan left office, they were doing a round table on ABC about how he'd be remembered. Will "decreed" that he'd go down "in the 1st rank of the 2nd rank of American presidents". So much for Will the "conservative" oracle. I was just a kid at the time and I remember it pissed me off.

terri,  February 22, 2010 12:43 PM  

You're right whit...maybe we should make up a list of all the "quitters".

ZH,  February 22, 2010 12:44 PM  

"resign with a flimsy argument"?
http://wizbangblog.com/content/2010/01/10/she-quits-to-conquer.php

Sarah Palin explains her reasons for resigning as Alaska's Governor to CNN.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRCa1xUgaHU

terri,  February 22, 2010 12:44 PM  

^^^^Can anyone say Pawlenty????

John.Glube,  February 22, 2010 12:46 PM  

Sarah keeps reminding us that conservatives need to just plow through all the media cr*p.

<span>Joshua's post vividly underscores this point. Thank you.</span>

Changing the topic slightly, although still on the subject of conservatives, the media and electability, Obama has unveiled his Health Care proposal in advance of the Health Care Summit.

In essence, it is warmed over "Senate mush," with a few tweaks.

All the attempts at spin, language changes, tweaking and threats will not change this reality. The public has said no. The President's proposal is bad policy. We need to focus on stopping it.

Bradley Blakeman in an article titled Health Care is DOA posted earlier today on FOXNews.com suggests the Republicans should give the President one final and public opportunity at the Health Care Summit to take reconciliation off the table.

If the President refuses, the Republicans must walk out of the Health Care Summit.

Blakeman goes on to write:

The Republicans job is not to make bad Democratic legislation better. Their job is to stop bad legislation from being passed and to offer alternative legislation and policy that is in keeping with what is of most concern to the people of the United States.

The Republican mantra needs to be job creation, deficit reduction, budget discipline, tax reduction and a strong national defense. If they stay true to those principles, they will be wildly successful. If they don’t, they won’t. Good governance is good politics. It is just that simple.


Statements made recently by Minority Leader McConnell, lead me to fear that Senate Republicans are about to go wobbly.

Perhaps Our Iron Lady may wish to stiffen their spine with a well timed Not Just No, But Hell No Facebook post underscoring Blakeman's theme.

Of course and as always, I fully trust Sarah's judgment on how best to proceed.

Either way, conservatives need to tell Republicans to stand firm, while plowing through all the media cr*p.

P.S. On the topic of media spin, conservatives and elections, Politico is running a poll titled Who Should Have Won The CPAC Poll.Bottom right hand corner of the page:
http://www.politico.com/

Dan C,  February 22, 2010 12:46 PM  

Simple, Alaska was being cost time and money and Sarah was being personally bankrupted. That has not happened to other Governors. Also, these so called big conservatives, well I do not believe that they are conservatives. Are these the same guys who were in favor of Bush expanding a new 9 trillion entitlement that we are now stuck with? These the same guys who love Romney? So nameless conservatives and beltway types who are too cowardly to speak in the open do not impress me.

terri,  February 22, 2010 12:48 PM  

"Not much"....good name  s/.
Was going to repond to your "opinion"......but never mind.

terri,  February 22, 2010 12:50 PM  

You're right Mark......Those in the "center" WILL come over after Sarah wins the nomination......Where else they gonna go???

Kentucky Colonel,  February 22, 2010 12:51 PM  

<span>The answer is simple.  The obvious response is that your contact is an idiot, since the argument is framed by the comment, "resign with a flimsy argument".  The obvious answer is Sarah Is One Of A Kind.</span>

Bill in Baltimore,  February 22, 2010 12:51 PM  

R4P, I get headaches too listening to my DC contact. But it is an education.

I'd say it's kind of like a bunch of generals who don't get along, then all of their subordinates pretty much fight each other as well.

but it is reality that can't be dismissed.

Also, it doesn't help that Sarah hasn't reached out to basically anyone in DC, not even Phyllis Shafly or Ed Fuehlner of Heritage.

While I won't speculate on why, it is creating a perception of her own arrogance, and this then gets cemented by those who follow Will, Cal Thomas, etc.

I won't speculate on the grand strategy, but don't you think it would be in her best interest to reach out to some of  the good DC people ?

BostonBruin,  February 22, 2010 12:51 PM  

I have wondered why no one asked Gov. Palin why she didn't try to fix the ethics laws - at least to force complaints to be thrown out if they were made public. But that would be seen as a self-serving, wimpy course of action and I doubt she would have gotten anywhere with the Alaska legislature on it.

I really think her desire to assist with the Tea Party movement and have the freedom to speak at Right to Life events, etc. was a greater reason why she resigned. As some would say, she really wasn't pushed out of her Gov's chair, she was pulled out by her desire to stop this Obama train wreck.

ZH,  February 22, 2010 12:52 PM  

"resign with a flimsy argument"?
http://wizbangblog.com/content/2010/01/10/she-quits-to-conquer.php

Palin: 'I am not a quitter; I am a fighter'
http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/07/07/palin.resignation/index.html#cnnSTCVideo

Not Much,  February 22, 2010 12:56 PM  

No one except for C4Pers buys that excuse as credible. She was getting donations to cover the costs, she could have fought to make changes so that this could not happen again. Instead she walked away and now her pockets are pretty full. Wise choice for her bank account, bad choice for Alaska, people can still take advantage of the ethics laws she chose to do nothing about, the problem she chose to run from is still there.

Whitney the Pipsqueak,  February 22, 2010 12:57 PM  

1) I don't mean to diss your friend or the rare people of DC, but isn't the phrase "good DC people" a bit of an oxy moron?

2) Sarah's going to be unconventional. She likely won't draw from the usually sources of contacts. I think the establishment's "outrage" of this shows thet they are arrogant not Sarah. Actually, the fact that she seems to be utilizing outside the beltway connections shows humility to me.

3) She is getting daily briefings from someone; this very well could be one of the "good DC people". We don't know every contact she's made. We can't jump to any conclusions.

Not Much,  February 22, 2010 12:57 PM  

She wasnt being bankrupted... The good people of C4P were filling her Trust to cover it.

A,  February 22, 2010 12:57 PM  

"<span>She won't get a second chance."</span>

Nonsense. Pure nonsense.
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narciso,  February 22, 2010 12:57 PM  

How about they actually pay attention to what she speaks on and writes about, and yes sometimes even look at her facebook account. What general area did this fellow work in, on the domestic front, many of Reagan's initiaves were frustrated by the moderates., less so on foreign policy, but there was some slippage there

terri,  February 22, 2010 12:58 PM  

Section. you bring up really good points.
I think it is getting to the part where Sarah needs to start nailing specifics. People are LOOKING for them, they're asking for them....it's time. If Sarah is going to do this....it's time.
The people are looking and asking for a leader. It's time to step up. I think we'll know very soon if Sarah is going to run or not.

BostonBruin,  February 22, 2010 12:59 PM  

Oh dear! The IronDog website is back up and it says this for Palin/Davis "SCRATCHED AT PUNTILLA ON WAY BACK TO BIG LAKE".

I assume this means they dropped out. Someone reported yesterday that Scott Davis crashed and hurt his back. Too bad.

MarkRNY,  February 22, 2010 1:00 PM  

Sarah, like Reagan, will make her position the new Center/mainstream. It's the MSM who defines what the Right, Center and Left are, and what Extreme and Mainstream is and we accept their definition. No more. Reagan brought the Center/mainstream back where it belonged--with conservatism. Sarah will do the same. 

BostonBruin,  February 22, 2010 1:00 PM  

When Gov. Palin was in Tennessee to speak at the Tea Party convention, she met up with one of the wealthiest businessmen in Tennessee. This was posted somewhere else on C4P. Sounds like she is making the right contacts.

Al B.,  February 22, 2010 1:00 PM  

Bill, aside from the answer I gave you on the other thread, you should turn the question around and ask them what governor or Senator has knowingly accepted personal financial and career ruin rather than resign their office and save both.

SusanW,  February 22, 2010 1:03 PM  

Is your Wash Contact male?

The female mind is inscrutable...absolutely perplexing and completely unreadable.  That's why Sarah is always one step ahead...she's not playing by those well-worn, glaringly obvious, tired old rules...that wonderful woman's brain of hers has electricity firing through neural pathways that have never been traveled in a political career.

She cannot be judge by WHAT A MAN WOULD DO...or not even by WHAT A FEMALE POLITICIAN TRAINED TO THINK LIKE A MALE WOULD DO....Sarah is all female, and the masculine side that she does have is more in tune with the Todd Palin survivalist psyche...and NOT that of a prissy Washingtonian.

She's making new rules...and I would say that your "Washington Contact" has neither the creativity, nor the depth of understanding to even attempt to wrap his small brain around a WOMAN who thinks outside of the box.

As for Sarah ignoring history...this is just another way of telling the little lady to SIT DOWN AND SHUT UP.  

She's playing the hand she was dealt.  Masterfully, too, I would say.

It's the classic woman in a horror movie scenario.   Your friend would say she should have done the "smart thing" and hidden in the closet, hoping that someone would save her before the ax murderer found her hiding behind the shoeboxes (the anklebiters...the political operatives...her legislative enemies.)  

The woman isn't supposed to go in the closet, pull out the tool chest and proceed to craft booby-traps to snare the stalker. 

And that's what Sarah did.  

She knew help WASN'T COMING...and she was not going to sit by and become a victim, just because that's what was written in that tired, old script that Saul Alinsky wrote (and her Repub opponents secretly hoped she would fall victim to.) 

As for being taken seriously...she can expect to be taken seriously, because she is being taken seriously by millions of Americans.  And it sounds like your shallow-thinking friend is being a bit infantile in thinking that an entire nation of people THINK like he does.

As for this "1,000 conservative activists" who the hell are they?   I don't give a flying fruitcake what some namby-pamby Washington "Conservatives" think about Sarah Palin.  My guess is these are the same brandy snifting snoots who call the Palin supporters of the world, "uneducated and uninformed."

Please, above all...tell your "friend" that he can take his short-sighted, snotty "opinions" and shove 'em up his sanctimonious butt.

     

  

John.Glube,  February 22, 2010 1:05 PM  

Ditto on Whitney's comments.

You may also find some good suggestions over at Hillbuzz under the post:

Project: How Do We Stop The MSM and GOP Elite from Doing To Sarah Palin What The MSM and DNC Elite Did to Hillary Clinton:
http://hillbuzz.org/2010/02/20/project-how-do-we-stop-the-msm-and-gop-elite-from-doing-to-sarah-palin-what-the-msm-and-dnc-elite-did-to-hillary-clinton/

The boys at Hillbuzz really are very creative.

Steven,  February 22, 2010 1:06 PM  

Patience Section 9,  patience! The first order of business is to campaign for others fpr victory this year so they will then support you when your campaign starts up. When its her time she will produce her agenda. That will be circa 2011, not now. Now is the to advocate for candidates and policies, next will be the time to construct an agenda.

Steven,  February 22, 2010 1:08 PM  

Not Much,

 You're wrong. There was an suit to lock up those private donations that is still on going. And besides name another governor that needed private donations to pay legal bills on frivolous lawsuits to stay afloat?

Whitney the Pipsqueak,  February 22, 2010 1:11 PM  

That was awesome, Susan! Thanks!

Dan C,  February 22, 2010 1:12 PM  

The people in DC ARE THE ONES THAT HAVE FREAKING SCREWED US! WHy would anyone listen to anything they say?

MarkRNY,  February 22, 2010 1:12 PM  

Rush is really coming down on CPAC. This is important! He said Ron Paul winning the straw poll made CPAC a joke. Doesn't like the message that was coming out of there either. He's basically saying that the Insiders are cooked! This could be a paid advertisement for Sarah!

John.Glube,  February 22, 2010 1:16 PM  

Troll, but thank you for the opposition research.

Nicole (aka Recovering Dem),  February 22, 2010 1:16 PM  

Hi Bill .... I've posted three counter attacks to the "she's a quitter" complaint on my blog. I'm working on a 4th, specifically for folks on our side.

Countering the Quitter Meme: Sample Dialogues
http://recoveryfromliberalism.blogspot.com/

JeanA,  February 22, 2010 1:18 PM  

Bill, As far as histroy, you can tell them that resigning as governor is now part of our hictory and the rest has yet to be written.

As far as being $600,000 in debt and growing is no flimsy argument.

Ask them what they would have done under the same circumstances because she wasn't getting any help from the lower 48, support or money wise.

Tell them the 1000 conservative activists at the TPC had a different take and they all had the same ego as Sarah.

SusanW,  February 22, 2010 1:19 PM  

WE THE PEOPLE are a realty that CANNOT BE DISMISSED.

Are there good people in Washington?   They are all playing a game...they made the rules and they cheat.  Sarah is wise to steer clear.

These are the same people who have been telling us over and over and over and over again, month after month, article after article, interview after interview, analysis after analysis that Sarah Is Done....and yet the woman has remained unstoppable.

yogi41,  February 22, 2010 1:21 PM  

Bill,

The more you post about your well-connected, big-wig GOP insider friends, the clearer it is that they don't want to be convinced about Sarah. Sorry, but they're more interested in changing your mind about her than having you change their minds about her. Their opinion of her is already shaped and the one value they're bringing to you is, you now know what they're going to use against her when they unload their arsenal of attacks on her.

I'd rather spend my time working on bringing attention to Sarah's record and accomplishments to some people who are still open-minded about her. Those are the people we need to reach and convince, not D.C. insiders who think they know everything. They don't.

JeanA,  February 22, 2010 1:22 PM  

Are you talking about the trust she can't touch?

Beehive,  February 22, 2010 1:24 PM  

Susan...great comments!!!

JeanA,  February 22, 2010 1:24 PM  

Not Much,  you sound like a concern troll.

Lynda,  February 22, 2010 1:24 PM  

I like this one...<span>Please, above all...tell your "friend" that he can take his short-sighted, snotty "opinions" and shove 'em up his sanctimonious butt.  Very well said</span>
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Beehive,  February 22, 2010 1:25 PM  

Amen Yogi...

Dan C,  February 22, 2010 1:25 PM  

Thats too bad. I hope Todd Palin's partner is OK.

Beehive,  February 22, 2010 1:27 PM  

Mark
Never enough concern trolls....hehe :)

JeanA,  February 22, 2010 1:28 PM  

F### off troll

Izzy,  February 22, 2010 1:28 PM  

Yap... You are right Yogi41.

JeanA,  February 22, 2010 1:29 PM  

Listen to yourself, you are a sick kook.

Nancy,  February 22, 2010 1:31 PM  

Resigning for more political power is understood in D.C.
Resigning, and politically speaking, if I die, I die, not understood in D.C.

Izzy,  February 22, 2010 1:33 PM  

1000 insiders?  Sarah is gaining 10,000 everyday.  I would not sweat over the insiders.  Most likely they never liked Sarah in the first place.  Let's change minds of the common man and not waste time with the Beltway know-it-all dudes.

katiejane,  February 22, 2010 1:34 PM  

The people who still are beating the "she quit" drum are people who are too used to politicians being willing to ride the public office gravy train regardless of how something affects their ability to do their job.

The foolish ethics complaints had paralyzed Palin's office and cost the Alaskans big bucks in addition to costing her personally.  Why should she have had to be dependent on C4Palin to raise money to cover her legal expenses?  We all see how well that worked out anyway.  If she'd sayed she would have been facing even higher debt and still wouldn't have seen the money in the trust.  Every time she turned about one of the anklebiters filed a new complaint - most likely she saw no end and addressing all those snipes had to affect her ability to govern Alaska.  Imagine - a politician who doesn't want to continue to shaft her sonstituents? 

It isn't like there was no one to fill her role - they had a lt governor.  Has he had the same complaints?  Has he had to face financial ruin to defend smears?  Has ANY politician been thrown to the wolves like Palin?  The fact that her detractors complain that the excuse was flimsy is more a reflection on THEM and their common sense than on Palin.  It seemed pretty understandable to me. 

As for the people who accuse her of having an ego - what politican doesn't have an ego?  I imagine they all think they have something to contribute to things - why is it so wrong for Palin to think that?   Hell - the talking heads have even bigger egos IMO because they don't actually DO - they just talk about what others should do.  Why do they think what they say is so worthy?  EGO!!

 What I don't understand is why her detractors can't just wait until the primaries.  If indeed she is so inadequate - that will become evident when she goes face to face against the other contenders.  The primaries are the mechanism we have to select "hopefully" the best nominee.  What's the big rush to stop her from competing?

Beehive,  February 22, 2010 1:38 PM  

Hey Jean....that wasn't directed at me was it..;)

MarkRNY,  February 22, 2010 1:38 PM  

Pretty succint there Yogi--and yeah! Time to shove her accomplishments in their faces and have them contrast them with Romney's, who accomplished....

Beehive,  February 22, 2010 1:40 PM  

My question is this...How the heck do you or anyone else know who she is talking to and what she is doing? I thought that was very clear when her PAC numbers came out...

She has been doing things that nobody but Todd and God knew about...she gets briefings every single day...Did anyone know that? No....

Like Al mentioned...she met with heavy hitters in Tennessee...Nobody knew that..This is why the Republican party is broken...Until the good ole boys and the Rinos realize things need to change...we will keep losing...status quo needs to be thrown out...They need to think outside the box...the old way of doing things is out...They need Sarah Palin

Nancy,  February 22, 2010 1:46 PM  

She is very careful when spending other people's money, her constituent's money.
When her constiutents are getting scr#@ed, she is going to find a way to make it stop.
Her resignation will never make sense to D.C.
Perhaps, it will make sense to future potential constituents.

MarkRNY,  February 22, 2010 1:48 PM  

Yeah, Leave Beehive alone!

Just kidding. No one would direct that at you Beehive...maybe it was directed at me!...Have you been talking to my family??  

John.Glube,  February 22, 2010 1:49 PM  

Arrogance or perhaps "fear" on the part of the GOP political elites in being exposed as "statist" conservatives.

I mean who can forget all the winning hit since 2000, starting with the bungling in Iraq, gross over spending by Congress, the refusal by the President to reign in that spending, Jack Abramoff and corruption, relying on Keynesian economics to just push the problems down the road, instead of tackling the underlying problems by promoting savings and production ala Austrian economics, ignoring financial abuse and then misreading the signs of a pending financial collapse, and ...

Let us not forget the GOP Bush team's personal attack, get out the base campaign against Kerry at the Presidential level. Yes, Bush won, but he only eaked out a narrow victory. Kerry was a McGovern liberal. The Democrats were ripe for a crushing defeat, running a value based conservative campaign a la Reagan that likely would have resulted in a smashing landslide.

But then Bush / Cheney are "statist" conservatives, or if you prefer "progressive" conservatives.

We need a "sweep the board" clean, values based campaign that has broad appeal if we are going to clean up the existing mess.


Poll after poll shows a huge disconnect between the "GOP main stream" and the "GOP political class."

While I appreciate not wanting to "diss" the GOP Washington establishment, neither would it be wise to get particularly close to the GOP Bush/Cheney poliltical elites who moved us rapidly down the track of bigger and more intrusive Federal government, coupled with a lack of fiscal discipline. 

The public wants and frankly the Country needs smaller more efficient and less intrusive government. Stop the bailouts. Fiscal discipline. Cut spending. Pay down debt. Let us govern our own affairs.

So far I have seen little evidence that the GOP Washington elites, having rejected and mocked Ron Paul for years on the need for smaller more efficient and less intrusive government, based on sound economic and fiscal policy that promotes savings and investment, would be the persons you would want to seek guidance from in how to run a political campaign at the Presidential level.

T D,  February 22, 2010 1:49 PM  

As to Governor Palin resigning, that's the brilliance of female strategy. 

Men, who have set the "standard" for political action, tend to macho "face 'em head on" tactics.  They're like the British in the Revolutionary War.  They fight standing up in a straight line. 

Women act smart.  They do tactical retreats--like people without easy access to power do.  They fight like the Indians and colonists.  They hide behind trees.  They attack and withdraw.  They don't "stand up like a man" and take whatever hits are coming.

Sarah Palin is redefining winning political tactics--just as Indians and American colonists redefined winning military tactics.

Not Much,  February 22, 2010 1:49 PM  

How about instead of name calling you actually try to explain what happened to his ears? Can you?

Nancy,  February 22, 2010 1:49 PM  

Governor Palin is very careful spending other people's money, her constituent's money.
So, when her constituents are getting (forgive me) screwed, she will do whatever it takes to stop it.
Her resignation will never be understood by D.C.
Perhaps, it will be understood by future potential constituents.

narciso,  February 22, 2010 1:50 PM  

It would seem to be, that she is the most unegotistical candidate I can imagine. Alway humble even tentative when offered a chance to serve.

riley4palin,  February 22, 2010 1:51 PM  

Bill:

I am not as diplomatic and succinct in my thoughts as many others here, but I will speak my mind.

To me, it seems like every few weeks you like to "stir the pot" around here of what Palin should do.  Are you her husband?  No.  Are you a family member?  No.  Are you one of her closest friends?  No.  Did you ever work for Palin in any capacity?  No.  Would she consider calling you in time of need or crisis?  No. 

Since "No" is the answer to all of my own questions (no need to take my test), I'll go out on a limb and say that you and your big conservative friends, activists, and contacts are not high on her list to please these days.

Somehow without any help from Washington DC and the know-it-all pundits, she managed to succeed all on her own. 

Your opinion that she is "creating a perception of her own arrogance" is laughable.  I believe it is narcissitic and quite arrogant of you and your friends to even make that statement.  Do you know her personally?  Ever share a cup of coffee, personal story, or even policiy positions?

Please.  Enough already with your lack of support for Palin and even more posts of telling her what she should do.

If and when she wants some help from DC, I am sure she knows who to contact.  Until then, perhaps re-focusing your energy on something more important is in order.

John.Glube,  February 22, 2010 1:52 PM  

<span>Arrogance or perhaps "fear" on the part of the GOP political elites in being exposed as "statist" conservatives.  
 
I mean who can forget all the winning hit since 2000, starting with the bungling in Iraq, gross over spending by Congress, the refusal by the President to reign in that spending, Jack Abramoff and corruption, relying on Keynesian economics to just push the problems down the road, instead of tackling the underlying problems by promoting savings and production ala Austrian economics, ignoring financial abuse and then misreading the signs of a pending financial collapse, and ...  
 
Let us not forget the GOP Bush team's personal attack, get out the base campaign against Kerry at the Presidential level. Yes, Bush won, but he only eaked out a narrow victory. Kerry was a McGovern liberal. The Democrats were ripe for a crushing defeat, running a value based conservative campaign a la Reagan that likely would have resulted in a smashing landslide.  
 
But then Bush / Cheney are "statist" conservatives, or if you prefer "progressive" conservatives.  
 
We need a "sweep the board" clean, values based campaign that has broad appeal if we are going to clean up the existing mess.  
 
Poll after poll shows a huge disconnect between the "GOP main stream" and the "GOP political class."  
 
While I appreciate not wanting to "diss" the GOP Washington establishment, neither would it be wise to get particularly close to the GOP Bush/Cheney poliltical elites who moved us rapidly down the track of bigger and more intrusive Federal government, coupled with a lack of fiscal discipline.   
 
The public wants and frankly the Country needs smaller more efficient and less intrusive government. Stop the bailouts. Fiscal discipline. Cut spending. Pay down debt. Let us govern our own affairs.  
 
So far I have seen little evidence that the GOP Washington elites, having rejected and mocked Ron Paul for years on the need for smaller more efficient and less intrusive government, based on sound economic and fiscal policy that promotes savings and investment, would be the persons you would want to seek guidance from in how to run a political campaign at the Presidential level.</span>

IMHO, Sarah must not run an "establishment" GOP campaign, if she wants to win the nomination and the general election. Going "rogue" is the winning course, but then as always, I trust Sarah's judgment on these matters.

Not Much,  February 22, 2010 1:53 PM  

Very careful huh? She spent more money from her PAC on a hotel room than she gave to the cause of Down Syndrome.

She spent more money on her friends businesses than she donated to the "cause".

The blindness astounds me.

I really think if you met her in person and she actually stole your wallet from your pants you would say " She really needed the money for the cause... Go Sarah"

Beehive,  February 22, 2010 1:54 PM  

hahaha...I'm thinking maybe it was directed at the troll...Or if not the troll...then you..hehe

Not Much,  February 22, 2010 1:55 PM  

<span>Very careful huh? She spent more money from her PAC on a hotel room than she gave to the cause of Down Syndrome. 
 
She spent more money on her friends businesses than she donated to the "cause". 
 
The blindness astounds me. 
 
I really think if you met her in person and she actually stole your wallet from your pants you would say " She really needed the money for the cause... Go Sarah"</span>

John.Glube,  February 22, 2010 1:56 PM  

<span><span>Arrogance or perhaps "fear" on the part of the GOP political elites in being exposed as "statist" conservatives.    
   
I mean who can forget all the winning hits since 2000, starting with the bungling in Iraq, gross over spending by Congress, the refusal by the President to reign in that spending, Jack Abramoff and corruption, relying on Keynesian economics to just push the problems down the road, instead of tackling the underlying problems by promoting savings and production ala Austrian economics, ignoring financial abuse and then misreading the signs of a pending financial collapse, and ...    
   
Let us not forget the GOP Bush team's personal attack, get out the base campaign against Kerry at the Presidential level. Yes, Bush won, but he only eaked out a narrow victory. Kerry was a McGovern liberal. The Democrats were ripe for a crushing defeat, running a value based conservative campaign a la Reagan that likely would have resulted in a smashing landslide.    
   
But then Bush / Cheney are "statist" conservatives, or if you prefer "progressive" conservatives.    
   
We need a "sweep the board" clean, values based campaign that has broad appeal if we are going to clean up the existing mess.    
   
Poll after poll shows a huge disconnect between the "GOP main stream" and the "GOP political class."    
   
While I appreciate not wanting to "diss" the GOP Washington establishment, neither would it be wise to get particularly close to the GOP Bush/Cheney poliltical elites who moved us rapidly down the track of bigger and more intrusive Federal government, coupled with a lack of fiscal discipline.     
   
The public wants and frankly the Country needs smaller more efficient and less intrusive government. Stop the bailouts. Fiscal discipline. Cut spending. Pay down debt. Let us govern our own affairs.    
   
So far I have seen little evidence that the GOP Washington elites, having until recently rejected and mocked the need for smaller more efficient and less intrusive government, based on sound economic and fiscal policy that promotes savings and investment, would be the persons you would want to seek guidance from in how to run a political campaign at the Presidential level.</span>  
 
IMHO, Sarah must not run an "establishment" GOP campaign, if she wants to win the nomination and the general election. Going "rogue" is the winning course, but then as always, I trust Sarah's political judgment on these matters.</span>

Nancy,  February 22, 2010 1:57 PM  

I think I know what "Not Much" is in reference to.

That was for your entertainment, Beehive!:)

Beehive,  February 22, 2010 1:58 PM  

Hey John.Glube...I sure enjoy your comments...
That was spot on...thanks...

T D,  February 22, 2010 2:00 PM  

BostonBruin,

You're right.  Gov. Palin had too many foes in the legislature.  The Dems, who had given the key votes to get ethics reform previously, were not about to do anything to fix the system and help Palin politically.  The Republicans were split because too many of them had been part of the Republican "good old boys" ethics challenged network.

Despite that, the system wasn't as horribly flawed on paper as it turned out to be for Palin  That's why it isn't a real problem under Gov. Parnell. 

The main problem was the connivance of the press to undermine the system.  The press front-page published ridiculous accusations against the letter, not to mention the spirit, of the ethics laws.  The reason was that the press wanted to bring Palin down and didn't care if paralyzing Alaska's state government was part of the price.

It's a shameful episode in Alaska journalism.

Bill in Baltimore,  February 22, 2010 2:01 PM  

yes, male.

Nicole (aka Recovering Dem),  February 22, 2010 2:02 PM  

Not Much ... I have met her in person, thank you.

Your premise is a) Sarah Palin only gives money to Down Syndrome from her Political Action Committee which is ludicrous on its face; b) that Sarah Palin should check in with you to determine where to direct her PAC resources; c) that we give a damn about your opinions.

Why do I trust Sarah? I trust the woman who refused to accept pay raises in her mayor and governor jobs, who quit a six-figure job to protest corruption, who cut the governor's personal travel budget by 85% while laying of the chef, the chauffeur and selling the private jet. I trust the woman who vetoed $500 million in wasteful spending projects, tried to block the ridiculous stimulus control dollars, and actually reduced the size of state government every year in office.

I trust the woman who gave up power, when it would have been more "comfortable" to hold on to her office and just put on a charade of being effective.

Sarah Palin has a right to travel the country, make money, speak her mind and call out the president's ridiculous agenda. She is going to be campaigning for the "cause" very actively in coming months.

I suppose if she had just run an investment company like Mitt Romney and made her millions that way, it would have been ok, huh? But because she's a working woman who fishes every summer and gets paid to speak, she's a money grubber. OK.

Bye bye, not much.

Beehive,  February 22, 2010 2:04 PM  

That was part of your undercover operation...remember..geesh

MarkRNY,  February 22, 2010 2:05 PM  

Lipstick--THAT was a great response!

Beehive,  February 22, 2010 2:06 PM  

Awww....Nancy...thanks so much for thinking of me...  :)

Bill in Baltimore,  February 22, 2010 2:09 PM  

All, thank you all for the comments on my "insight" to DC (which we all knew anyway).

couple of quick comments:

section9 is right about "getting serious" (bringing in the professionals)
- until she does that they'll fall back on the "quitter" memeo

Nicole
- thank you for the links

Susan
- great thoughts, and yes, the problem with feminism is that they tried to become men !

Yogi,
- good points, but I won't be swayed ! But I am getting "schooled", just not "converted"

JeanA
- good points.

I'll try to review tonight and get back to you.

But this Js-kit is killing us, especially with no e-mails !

Nancy,  February 22, 2010 2:09 PM  

Hey Beehive,
The little troll toy disappeared!
Speed Bump.:)

Nicole (aka Recovering Dem),  February 22, 2010 2:15 PM  

I came up with another Quitter Dialogue ... Try this with your Republican friends :-)

http://recoveryfromliberalism.blogspot.com/

Pool Dog,  February 22, 2010 2:17 PM  

Bill,
Ask him how much more able to deal with a challenge does she have to be beyond coming in as a rookie governor and smashing an entrenched 'good old boys' club of corruption

Beehive,  February 22, 2010 2:20 PM  

Nancy...
Yep...He'll be back....haha

Beehive,  February 22, 2010 2:24 PM  

Hey Nancy
Are you here?...

Nancy,  February 22, 2010 2:28 PM  

Hey Beehive!:)
What's happening?

Nancy,  February 22, 2010 2:31 PM  

Too bad Bill's D.C. bigwigs don't seem to want a "big tent". It seems that they would open their arms to Governor Palin, because they have such a "big tent" philosophy!
Big tent for thee, not for me.
It seems.

Beehive,  February 22, 2010 2:32 PM  

I just wanted you to tell your girls hi for me...It's been awhile...:)

lonestar,  February 22, 2010 2:32 PM  

Troll alert!

Nancy,  February 22, 2010 2:35 PM  

Beehive,
Oh, that is so sweet! Thank you for thinking of them!
I will tell them their Aunt Beehive says hi!
I hope they get to meet you someday! They love hearing from you and their friends at C4P!
I told Angel Girl that Aunt Cruela said the other day, "party at Nancy's house", and she was so excited! She was already planning it!:)

CTSherman,  February 22, 2010 2:36 PM  

Bill,

I don't comment here much, but I read a lot of the threads. Many of your postings give me a good deal of CONCERN. And to steel from BeeFL, "just sayin!"

Pool Dog,  February 22, 2010 2:37 PM  

'brilliance'.....hm...
A woman did not write The Art of War (Sun Tzu) or Strategy (Lidell-Hart) both of which advocate the indirect approach. Douglas ('hit em where they ain't') MacArthur was not a woman. Neither was Genghis Khan. Hiding behind trees and skirmishing with your enemy did not begin with Indians and colonists, and incidentally it was not until American troops learned the 'continental' way of fighting as shock infantry that they were able to make headway against the British on the coastal plains and come out of the western forests and hills where guerrilla tactics could work fine, but couldn't capture seaports. Do you know the names von Steuben and Kosciusko?
Governor Palin did not resign because she is a woman. She resigned because she was seeing herself and her family attacked by the same anklebiter political tactics that you are saying are exclusively 'female' and thankfully is now turning them against her enemies. To equate this with half-correct military history is silly.

Beehive,  February 22, 2010 2:41 PM  

Nancy....thanks for your comments today...I appreciate you...:)

Beehive,  February 22, 2010 2:43 PM  

You rock Nancy...thanks for your comments today...I do appreciate them.. ;)

Nancy,  February 22, 2010 2:45 PM  

I think Bill in Baltimore is a strong supporter of Governor Palin, and I feel like he is trying to give us an insight into what the D.C. Republicans/RINOs/Conservatives are thinking about Governor Palin. A look at what the "enemy" on our side of the battlefield is questioning about her. Use his comments as reconnaisance reports, and use them to solidify our arguments and debate techniques.

I know what Bill's friends say, make me head explode, like a Frum or a Brooks, but it is good to know what the plan or schemes are that are going to be used against her.

Beehive,  February 22, 2010 2:46 PM  

But when you do comment...they are great comments...Thanks CTSherman..

senator20526,  February 22, 2010 2:47 PM  

Bill

These big conservative friends are worried that Sarah will listen to the little people, instead of them. She is unconventional, if they cant understand that then so be it.

Nancy,  February 22, 2010 2:47 PM  

me-my

Doing a leprechaun dialect there!:)

AndreaB,  February 22, 2010 2:47 PM  

Spot on Susan W!! You just kicked 1,000 Washington a**es.

Nancy,  February 22, 2010 2:49 PM  

I just told Angel Girl, and we started recounting that thread where you and Mia were figuring out which ones we were at the book signing!
We were cracking up! We were so confused by that conversation!:) It was great!

Nancy,  February 22, 2010 3:00 PM  

David Brooks, David Frum, Kathleen Parker, and Peggy Noonan are the TIME of Reagan's day. That is far off the "conservatives" in D.C. have gone from first principles.

senator20526,  February 22, 2010 3:03 PM  

She is an OUTSIDER

latinchic,  February 22, 2010 3:15 PM  

Okay, this was funny Joshua. It gives one reason to hope.

alwaysfiredup,  February 22, 2010 4:03 PM  

My guess is Palin waits to see what happens in 2010 before putting her national campaign staff in place.  She's making some big bets in GOP primaries.  She should continue to do so wherever possible in all swing and caucus states.  If those bets pay off, she will have loyal connections ready to go in those swing and caucus states.  She would have to recruit staff state by state anyway because she doesn't want and won't get much Washington help.  

If those 2010 bets do not pay off, then she may not run in '12.  She wouldn't have the organization but would have tons of time.  I would still put her in solid running for a VP spot behind her endorsed candidate, whom she would announce before the primary then help drag over the line.  And if not that, then she should challenge Begich in 2014.

(Interesting historical note: Women obtained the right to vote in 1920.  If 2012 is not her year, 2020 would be an amazing year to elect (or re-elect) the first Madam President.) 

alwaysfiredup,  February 22, 2010 4:06 PM  

Success in early primaries will end that line of argument pretty quickly. Nothing succeeds like success.

alwaysfiredup,  February 22, 2010 4:08 PM  

And then ask him how much he fears that happening.  If he doesn't, he should.

alwaysfiredup,  February 22, 2010 4:09 PM  

I am convinced the legislature was poised to repeal ACES and AGIA if she had stayed. They were getting truly vindictive, D's and R's both.

Kentucky Colonel,  February 22, 2010 4:28 PM  

AndreaB, by any chance you live in Versailles?

manajordan,  February 22, 2010 4:31 PM  

Joshua this was great. Thanks for posting it.

techno,  February 22, 2010 5:06 PM  

I have constantly harped on the fact that Sarah Palin is using the Reagan wilderness playbook to a great extent to get her ducks in a row and to map out the road and to help her forestall any challenges or pitfalls that may lie on that road while she runs her marathon towards the GOP primaries. What imho really helps Sarah is because hindsight is 20/20 she is able to take the best from the Reagan playbook and leave what history showed did not work as well or not at all. And again I cannot overemphasize this enough: Reagan was successful using this playbook; that provides Palin the sterling confidence and conviction that she is on the right path, regardless of what her critics may say in dissecting her decisions along the way and that if she duplicates Reagan's successful strategies enough times she will eventually prevail. Sarah is a genius because she is not trying to reinvent the wheel, unlike so many politicians with inflated egos tend to want to do.

techno,  February 22, 2010 5:14 PM  

BIB:

Sometimes you have throw away the facts and to embrace the legend of Sarah Palin.

I have never denied the 'quitter meme' would remain topical and for that reason I postulated way back in the spring of 2009 that if Palin were to be successful in her run for the presidency in 2012 she would have to assume the role of a battlefield commander in the 2010 midterms, a la Joan of Arc, leading her troops into battle agains the evil forces of Obama and the Far Left, and thereby orchestrating a huge triumph for our side.

BIB, the words quit and triumph or quitter and dynamo cannot co-exist in the same room or atmosphere.

Ted Torgerson,  February 22, 2010 5:20 PM  

Funny thing is I'm sure I read that article at the time and was probably worried Reagan couldn't win.

Thank heavens Al Gore invented the internet so I have access to better information now.

techno,  February 22, 2010 5:22 PM  

Section 9, I don't usually disagree with you but I think it is more important for Palin to LEGITIMIZE herself with firming up the base rather than to focus on the inside the baseball stuff about organization or 'the meat on the bone'.

Don't forget Palin is savaged everyday by the MSM, and she can't ever take for granted that her base may not stray eventually by consistent negative MSM propaganda if she does not attend to it in a nurturing fashion.

It will be like the Field of Dreams. If she calls, they will come. You betcha!

Huskers-For-Palin,  February 22, 2010 5:36 PM  

Should of saved this for April 1st   :)

Dan C,  February 22, 2010 6:18 PM  

I emailed a link to this post to Mark Levin.

John.Glube,  February 22, 2010 7:29 PM  

Speaking of Ronald Reagan, Sarah may wish to give thought to  the calls for bank reform as recently put forward by Paul Volcker, former Chair of the Federal Reserve.

In that regard, I urge folks to read three articles:

Basically, it's over
A parable about how one nation came to financial ruin
by Charles Munger
(Mr. Munger is Buffett's long time partner in the firm Berkshire Hathaway. He has come out against cap and trade.)

http://www.slate.com/id/2245328/pagenum/all/#p2

Buffett's Partner: It's Over For US Economy
http://moneynews.com/Headline/munger-buffett-economy-debt/2010/02/22/id/350529?s=al&promo_code=97C7-1

Hyperinflation Special Report (Update 2010) by John Williams of Shadow Government Statistics
http://www.shadowstats.com/article/hyperinflation-2010
I appreciate that Congressional Republicans (and a number of conservative pundits, including Glenn Beck) have come out against Volcker's proposal, but IMHO they are wrong.

One of the reasons we are in the present mess was the decision made by the Republican Congress and President Clinton to remove the firewalls between investment firms and banks, along with the refusal to regulate the OTC credit derivative market, so directly contributing to the financial collapse of 2008.

If nothing else, Sarah may wish to give serious thought to the concerns raised by Mr. Munger and Mr. Williams, because their articles reflect and underscore the underlying economic crisis that America is presently facing.


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Anonymous,  February 22, 2010 7:54 PM  

2020 would be an even better yr to elect the 2nd Madam President when VP Bachmann succeeds Pres Palin.

Anonymous,  February 22, 2010 8:02 PM  

I don't think she particularly cares what "the party" thinks.

Virtually her entire record speaks to the contrary.  I think she's figured out that if the party has any say she won't be the nominee no matter how many gurus she hires, how many economic recovery speeches she gives, etc...  If the party had their say she wouldn't have been Governor, or the VP nominee. 

Fortunately McCain is another guy who seems like he could care less about the pary and was really the only possible guy who could choose her for the ticket.

But I suspect her whole thought process going forward is rooted in the notion that she only wins by being against the party.  If the party is in control and the people want the establishment choice, it won't be her, and I think she'd be ok with that.

If the people are fed up, and they've had it with the party, and they're ready to make their voice heard, it won't matter what the party does.  The party couldn't even help their hand-picked man Mitt in must-win Iowa against a guy he outspent by 10:1 and who had 0 name recognition.  The party couldn't help their man Mitt in next door NH against a 72 yr multiple cancer survivor who the conservative base absolutely despised and whose campaign was at death's door for much of 2007.  Same in FL.  I wouldn't worry too much about the party.

Her path to victory does not lie with the party.  It never has.

Sapwolf,  February 22, 2010 11:11 PM  

Great post!  We are gonna witness 1980 all over again in 2012.  The only problem I have with it is that Sarah will win the primary and have to pick Romney as her Veep to 'unite' the party.  Maybe it will end better than that and she'll pick Rubio or DeMint instead and we stop the progressives.

eclecticak,  February 23, 2010 1:17 AM  

"Not Much" of a Troll...... 

Epic FAIL!!!!!

eclecticak,  February 23, 2010 1:22 AM  

Bill, why don't they just go to SRLC and offer to help her? She <span>ain't</span> gonna come crawling to them on her knees!

Serenade,  February 23, 2010 4:23 AM  

I know Palin can be elected, but the question is will she even run? I know she will not announce anything until much, much later as her focus is on 2010--but sometimes I get the feeling she's leaning towards having a different role in politics.

Palin says she's all about "the message." (of fiscal responsibility, limited government, etc...) but this is one of those cases I believe the MESSENGER matters as much as the message. I can't imagine getting enthused over a different candidate that she simply endorses. I really hope it's in God's will that Palin herself is the one that goes head-to-head with Obama and puts all the "wiser than thou" elites and entrenched powers in this country to shame---much in the same way Reagan did when he became President, contrary to people's expectations.

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