Saturday Open Thread
WSJ: "Everyone is preoccupied now with the politics [of ObamaCare], but ultimately at stake on Sunday is the kind of country America will be. The consequences of this bill will not only be destructive for the health-care system and the country's fiscal condition, though those will be bad enough. Inextricably bound up in a plan as far-reaching and ambitious as ObamaCare are also larger questions about the role of government, the dynamism of American enterprise and the nature of a free society."
Mike Brownfield: The Aftermath of Obamacare: What America Will Look Like If The White House Gets Its Way
IBD: Truth Is A Casualty Of ObamaCare Final Push
Kathryn Nix: Obamacare’s Delusional Deficit Reduction Claims
Hot Air: CBO confirms: ObamaCare with “doctor fix” will actually add billions to the deficit
Michelle Malkin: The Demcare bribe list, Pt. III
VDH: A Pyrrhic Passage?
Matt Patterson: Will Democrats in Congress stop at nothing?
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http://theessexblog.blogspot.com/ part 2 of my visit with sarah and glenn in tulsa. Ciao mia bella morning to charter whitney bean brian lipstick jean uffua emily nancy cruela and everybody here in palinland.
Morning kcnut! :)
Good morning from Alaska
<span>"It really reflects the lack of experience of President Obama's, which it was warned about during the campaign - that candidate Obama did not have executive experience; he hasn't been an administrator or manager of anything, so to jump into this huge, hugely important responsible position as President of the United States without the experience to know how to work across party lines and to know how to administer and to manage a team to get policy through that makes sense and is supported by the people - it's a bit over his head if you will and things are not going well, and the public is really voicing their frustration. That's what you mentioned in the 100,000 plus calls that are choking up Congress' switchboard right now. That's the voice of the people and their frustration." </span>
<span> -Gov. Sarah Palin to Greta van Susteren (3/19/10)</span>
I Stand With Sarah Palin
Gooood Morning everyone!
I know it may not be a good morning to some, but for some reason I feel strangely optomistic. After all, when November comes around, it will be a fight to the finish. I am confident that these minions who say they serve us will now have to work in McDonalds. Yum, breakfast.
I know we can win this.
Aren't we "the people"?
Thought so.
Good morning Emily
Good morning to you Kenton! :)
We Americans we can and will fight for our future. Obama going to wish that he never heard of obamacare when we get through with congress in November.
Good morning to my C4Peepz, who are my best Internet-adult-friends in the entire world. Who knew that grownups have a sense of humor? (I confess, I really haven't encountered them in such a large group)
I heart you! *draws a heart in the air with two index fingers*
My Dear Friends in Sarah,
This will be just a brief note today, and I have to leave right after I post this.
Nancy, who came up with the inspired idea of fasting, asked us, as I recall, to post on the morning open thread if we were "on duty" for the day.
I have been fasting since last night, and shall continue until tonight..."where two or three are gathered together in My Name..."
Cal over Louisville last night!!!
I shall continue with the Going Rogue commentary on Monday.
God bless you all!
Sarah Domination 2010; SARAH 2012!!!
Brianus
Mornin' my good buddies. As usual, a lot to catch up on. Working again this weekend -- when I'm not on my knees praying for our country -- but I can sort of see the light at the end of the tunnel, work-wise. Just hope it's not a train coming at me.
Great interviews w/Sean, Glenn and Greta.
A belated happy birthday to our little princess Piper Palin and our grown up princess manajordan, both of whom are sources of joy and inspiration for all of us.
And, since I don't think Cookboy is around yet today, I'm off to have country ham, biscuits, homemade preserves and sorghum, grits and eggs at the Loveless Cafe.
Regardless of the outcome of this weekend's brawl in D.C., as the Gov. reminds us, Sunday's coming, and so is November. Stay strong.
Brianus, I just wanted to say that you are completely and utterly amazing with words, and I now believe that God gifted you with such a marvalous talent (I'm still cultivating mine). God bless you Brianus! You are definitely an amazing person.
Good morning Bean Counter! :)
Good morning folks,
Kitty and I are about to embark on a road trip in protest to the nanny state Obamacare socialism take over of our country while we can....we're going to IHOP for an enormous breakfast filled with carbs, calories and contempt for the short-termers in the WH........We'll probably have our favs....strawberry stuffed french toast....we are so pissed....we just might have seconds.....even thirds.....if Michelle Oblamo wants to discover obesity she only has to look at her backside in the mirror.....its enormous.....almost as big as her idiot hubby's ego........so our act of defiance may not be as political as the Washington protests, but at least it will taste good......if this bill passes We will not become beaten down or depressed.....instead I will focus on November 3rd when conservatives take back the House and the Senate......and will look forward to November 4th......when the Congressional investigations of this administration begins with the added hope of criminal investigations and if they use the Demon Rule.......the impeachment proceedings......the Chicago thug-in-chief will come to learn what it feels like to have his tactics directed back at him and I don't expect he will handle having his past, his actions and his career exposed to the sunlight.....payback is hell.......wonder how Pukelosi will handle being told to sit down and shut up by the new Speaker of the House.......Dirty Harry will be busy opening a new Chicken Ranch in Nevada.......so Kitty and I will not become depressed........The Sun Will Come Out in November.......and Sarah will fill our hearts with joy as she continues her battle to put America on the right path.........our day of rejoicing will come........January 20, 2013.........Be there.
I will be there! Promise.
Love ya Kjanlady...enjoy IHOP, we don't have one :(
Very nicely said. I just wish I could be in DC today.
Where's techno and his posting for Rasmussen? Oh well, here are the main numbers. I'm sure techno will elaborate:
-21
43% overall approval
56% disapproval
There is a new video going viral from the RGA (Republican Governor's Association) called "America's Comeback". I'm not going to post it because I was appalled at who they left out of the video. It starts out with the corruption and arrogance of those in power; fair enough. But then it highlights certain Republican "leaders" who are supposedly battling this corruption and are on the side of the people. Their idea of Republican leaders? Mitt Romney, Graham, McCain, Gingrich, and other RINO's. Pointedly left out of this video is Sarah Palin.
Watching CSPAN this morning, listening to some nit Dem congressman and some really whacked out Dem's call in . . . makes one's blood boil.
What also boils my blood is the idoicy of the CSPAN moderator who sits learn and lets lies fly through the air and says nothing . . . <span> </span>
Who pays for CSPAN anyway ?<span> </span>
I DID NOT give money to the RGA when Sarah asked us to donate...and I am soooo glad I did not.
If the Republican Good Ol' Boys think they can push aside Sarah Palin..and somehow get the rest of us to get "fired up" about one of their plastic faced,"chosen" males...they can forget about my vote.
Republican Leader, Mitt Romney, they're kidding right?!! where is he?
Rep Dave Camp calling obamacare the largest tax increase in American history. CPAN-2 Rules meeting right now
43 approve? OUCH!
oh man, the ladies are kicking our tail in March madness bracket !
1. Beehive
2. manajordan
3. RAM
4. CruelaDev
30. Bill in Baltimore :-(
So this is how the world ends...
Mitt Romney? What the craters has he done?
I hate how quiet it gets on the weekends.
Don't know if this is good or bad, but Stupak just canceled his press conference. Breakdown or breakthrough?
<span><span>#Stupak just canceled his press conference...</span> <span> <span>12 minutes ago</span> <span>via TweetDeck</span> </span></span>
I don't have health "insurance" . . . but I'm covered.
I have Christian Medi-Share, which acts like insurance but technically isn't insurance.
Anyone know if this is exempt, or will I be required to purchase an "approved" plan ?
Two of my secret revelations:
1. I think Obama is a Communist
2. If Sarah runs for the 2012 nomination and loses it because of the Good Ol' Boy's Club, I will happily "throw my vote away" by voting for a third party or writing Sarah's name in.
3. I think Todd Palin is cuter than Brad Pitt.
Breakdown perhaps?
Via NRO:
<span>"A group of pro-choice women just exited the Speaker's office and said that another vote on the Stupak language is not going to happen."</span>
Which hopefully this means that Stupak and most if not all of his 12 pro-life caucus members will vote NO tomorrow.
This ties the record across the board which was last attained on March 10th.
-13 (43-56) approve-disapprove
Oh goody! I'm rooting for a breakdown. :)
Nazi Pelosi may have the votes without Stupak, I hope that Stupak stands is ground and can not be bought!
Sarah 2012- Cleaning House in 2010!
<span>@John Cornyn</span> tweets: "A deal on taxpayer funding for abortions in House cannot pass in Senate."
Stupak and his pro-life caucus would have to be delusional to think the Senate will fix the abortion language. If the Democrats in the pro-life caucus are in fact pro-life, on principle they must vote NO.
Word is from John McCormack of the Weekly Standard that Pelosi cancelled her agreement with Stupak that would have given him and his cronies a separate vote on the abortion language or something to that effect.
“Language that would restrict paper companies from claiming a biofuel tax credit is back in the House health care bill. The provision that would restrict paper companies from claiming a $1.01-per-gallon cellulosic biofuel producer tax credit for their production of a wood-pulping byproduct, known as “black liquor,” that is burned as fuel has become a legislative darling to Democrats thirsty for offsetting revenue for big spending packages. Some estimates have said closing the potential loophole could save up to $24 billion.”
You would think that the tree hugging demsocraps would understand that paper companies burning “black liquor" lowers the amount of oil purchased from forgien countries ...but they see it as something else to tax. Healthcare bill will make the cost of disposable diapers and Obambi's Depends increase.
They are spinning it that the dems don't need the votes of the Stupak 12. However, I think it is probably because they would stand to lose more votes then they would gain.
Rep Paul Ryan telling the rules committee how it I-S is CBO numbers are crazy and house using medicare like piggy bank!
Really what choice does Deem Queen Pelosi have? Tick off the 40 members of the pro-choice caucus causing them to bolt, or deny the Stupak 12 a vote on fixing the abortion language? I could be wrong, but it seems to me that Pelosi still trying to cobble some kind of agreement between the pro-choice and pro-life caucus indicates to me that she still doesn't enough votes.
Keep praying, calling, emailing, and faxing.
We can win!
Good morning everybody....
Rough day yesturday until Sarah "lifted America's Spirit" via Greta last night...
The king is undressed (Brett) The King is taken to school (Sarah)
Have a great weekend all
Breaking News
Via NRO
"Stupak Is Finished With Pelosi"
Two pro-life GOP members close to Stupak tell NRO that any Stupak deals are off. They just spoke with him and they said he's finished with Pelosi. They rejected his enrollment corrections proposal.
<span>But why was Pelosi negotiatng with Stupak late last night and early this morning if she doesn't need his pro-life caucus vote?
What am I missing?</span>
<span><span>Slaughter is an idiot....</span></span>
Here is how Ace is reporting it:
Okay, I thought this morning's press conference with Congressman Bart Stupak would settle the fate of the healthcare bill. He and the leadership were working furiously last night to work out a deal on abortion language.
It turns out the House Pro-Choice Caucus told Pelosi that if she cuts a deal with Stupak, <span>they will vote against the whole mess</span>: the Senate bill, the reconciliation sidecar, and any abortion provision offered to placate Stupak's bloc. So Stupak tried and Pelosi looked like she was going with it, but she's facing a mutiny if she does.
The fact that this occurred like this is great news. It means that Pelosi doesn't have the votes yet. Most counts have her a handful short. By my own count, she has to peel off some of the Stupak folks or she won't get to 216.
My final whip count and all the latest news on the healthcare vote will be up in a bit.
Yes
Yes
Not yet. Have faith Uffda. It is not over yet.
Stay strong. It's hard, but stay strong.
I deem yes.
<span>Rep Paul Ryan is smarter than a whole room full of Democraps. They don't want debate, they just want America to sit down an shut-up.</span>
Henry Waxman says, NO deal on Abortion.
Ed at Hot Air:
Was Henry Waxman chortling with glee, or hiding his tears, when he confirmed this? Waxman is a big abortion supporter, so I doubt he’s unhappy to see Stupak shut down. However, if it kills his health-care bill, Waxman may end up shedding a few tears over the radical nature of the Democrats in protecting future federal funding of abortion.
John Boehner tells Robert Costa at the NRO:
"Clocks still ticking, and she still doesn't have the votes."
Under Obamacare...what will happen to Dental Coverage?
<span>Whip Count
Via Gabriel Malor at AOSHQ
Since my last count yesterday, Pelosi got Sanford Bishop, Scott Murphy, Suzanne Kosmas, Brad Ellsworth, Allen Boyd, Tom Perriello, Dina Titus, Harry Mitchell and John Boccieri.
She lost Jason Altmire, John Barrow, Lincoln Davis (for sure; he was already headed that way), Peter DeFazio, Heath Shuler, and Harry Teague.
So Nancy has 200 “definitely voting yes” congresscritters. She is 16 short of the magic number. There are 216 publicly declared “no” votes. There are 18 undecided/undeclared congressmen left (including Cuellar):
Yes votes in November now undecided:
Tim Bishop (NY-1), Mike Capuano (MA-8 ), Gabrielle Giffords (AZ-8 ), Bill Foster (IL-14), Baron Hill (IN-9), Paul Kanjorski (PA-11), Alan Mollohan (WV-1), Bill Owens (NY-23), Earl Pomeroy (ND-All), Nick Rahall (WV-3), Zack Space (OH-18 ), John Tierney (MA-6).
No votes in November now undecided:
Brian Baird (WA-3), Rick Boucher (VA-9), Jim Matheson (UT-2), Glenn Nye (VA-2), John Tanner (TN-8 ).
Stupak bloc remaining:
Bart Stupak (MI-1), Marion Berry (AR-1), Joe Cao (LA-2, Republican), Jerry Costello (IL-12), Henry Cuellar (TX-28 ), Kathy Dahlkemper (PA-3), Joe Donnelly (IN-2), Steve Driehaus (OH-1), Marcy Kaptur (OH-9), Dan Lipinski (IL-3). Cuellar is thought to be “leaning yes”, but he’s refusing to take the President’s phone calls.
Of the maybe’s left, I suspect enough have told Pelosi privately that they are voting “no” that she believes she has to peel apart Stupak’s bloc to pick up the final handful of votes. That’s why all the effort last night. Unfortunately, the Pro-Choice Caucus mutinied and Pelosi is running out of “maybes” to turn.</span>
Jimr3, thanks for your hard work . . . <span> </span>
Rules Comm-Paul Ryan:deeming this into law without actually having the courage clean up or down vote..is not good govt,it's not democracy.
I don't know for sure about the eligibility but because it is not insurance I doubt Medi-share would qualify under the healthcare plan.
I think we'll have to share each other's dentures (as per the "healthcare summit"). Perhaps toothbrush sharing is in the fine print as well.....
Stacy McCain gets an Email from a GOP House leadership aide:
See floor schedule for the House today (from Hoyer’s office)… last vote should be 3-ish. Rules Committee is meeting now to write the rule for tomorrow’s reconciliation bill… we expect it will include the “Slaughter Solution” deeming the Senate bill passed and making Obamacare law. . . .
Things are tight . . . DO NOT let up on your efforts.
Stacy McCain says: In other words, Pelosi is going for the “deem-and-pass” strategy, rather than an actual up-and-down vote, which may explain why she’s giving Stupak the stiff-arm.
Ed Morrissey reacts: Yes, but the vote count is on that bill anyway. If Pelosi doesn’t have the votes for the reconciliation bill — which is what’s coming to the floor tomorrow — then the Senate bill won’t be “deemed” anything. We knew the Democrats would stick with the Demon Pass strategy; it’s all they have.
Rep. Paul Ryan - CBO letter shows that ObamaCare gives us a 458 BILLION DOLLAR DEFICIT!
NRO links Sarah's "<span>Be heard or brace for transformation" Facebook post. </span>
Hee hee...
When I see Nancy Pelosi I think of the following:
1. Lizards
2. "I'll get you my little pretty."
3. Dante's Inferno
<p><span>A view from the left on the Whip count, Pelosi and Stupak - Firedoglake seems nervous:</span>
</p><p><span>If Speaker Pelosi were to get every single one of these votes – and that’s a tall order – she would still need two members from the confirmed Stupak bloc.</span>
</p><p><span>[…]</span>
</p><p><span>So if the deal is dead, Pelosi needs everyone in the first two categories and two from the Stupak bloc. If she can peel off more from the Stupak bloc, it gives her room with the undecideds. The only other option would be to try and flip one of the sure No votes, like Stephen Lynch or Mike Arcuri. Expect the two committee chairs voting No, Collin Peterson and Ike Skelton, to get a lot of attention.</span>
</p><p><span><span>Given those odds, you can see why she explored the Stupak deal. But pro-choice women apparently slapped it down so soundly, that the path of least resistance is now this agonizing trek to peel off enough votes to get to 216.</span></span></p>
According to Daniel Foster at NRO, Henry "Nostrilitis" Waxman "just Stepped in it"
<span><span>A rough and rowdy Rules Committee hearing just recessed, but not before it had another great moment. Challenged by Rep. Lincoln Diaz-Balart (D., Fla.) over Deem-and-Pass, Rep. Henry Waxman (D., Calif.) responded, with not a little dissimulation: "We're not going to deem the Senate bill passed.We're going to pass the Senate bill. We're going to pass it by a vote in the House." (Editor's Note: No, they won't.)
</span></span>
<span><span>Rep. Joe Barton (R., Texas) responded. "We're making news here. . . Praise the Lord!"
</span></span>
Ditto. The worse that can happen is if they pass the original Senate bill with an up or down vote; that will be legal and there won't be anything we can do about it becoming law. If they use Deem and Pass, which I think they will, we have options to keep this from becoming law.
Here is the link to the Good Ol' Boys page.
Let them know how you feel about their video without Gov. Palin or maybe it's a good thing they lefted her out. You decide. Scroll down for the message block.
http://www.rga.org/homepage/
We have all heard the expression that history repeats itself. On the eve of the possible passage of Obamacare, I think it is appropriate to ask the question has something of this magnitude ever occurred before in American history, that is the passage of a certain law having the ability to transform fundamentally the nature of American society or how it operated to the extent that it provided the tools to facilitate more GOVERNMENT INTERVENTION and in turn reduced FREEDOM. And could Obama and the Democrats be following the same playbook in the passage of Obamacare. I'll let you folks decide.
In 1912 the Democrats gained control of both Houses of Congress and the new President was a Democrat, Woodrow Wilson.
According to wikipedia, Woodrow Wilson then went against the platform of his party in the creation of a central bank per se and in 1913 and came up with a "progressive" plan that would make the Federal Reserve Board a "public entity" instead of being controlled by private bankers, and made the currency, the new Federal Reserve note to be an obligation of the U.S. Treasury. Membership be national banks became mandatory, not optional.
Oh, by the way the the 16th Amendment to the Constitution giving the federal government the power to levy INCOME TAXES was ratified in 1913 as well. Coincidence?
Basically, what these two measures did was give the government the right to print money and to raise as much money as they felt they needed. Before 1913 it could be argued the federal government did not have the tools at its disposal to INTERVENE in the economic and political life of America.
And it was only passed primarily along party lines--only after considerable political manipulation of Congressmen by Woodrow Wilson and it fundamentally changed America for all time.
Does this sound familiar?
Uh Oh
Don't fall for it Stupak! The President could rescind it at any time.
Are they for real!?! Rhomney care Mittens, don't worry obama is a nice guy my friends McCain, and Nancy amnesty take your DNA identification card Grahm are not leaders of anything. I don't know who is more out of touch with America, Pelosi or the RNC. Oh this makes my head hurt.
And if you watched the guy from Florida, he said that to passit withouth the Slaughter Rule, which means they vote on the Senate Bill and the Reconciliation Bill, the Senate Bill itself could become law because it has passed both houses. This is a BIG deal and I said as much the other day. I know we shouldn't get bogged down in the process, but there is no clarification on the "yes" votes. Will they vote for the reconciliation package and the Senate bill, will they take that chance? Or are they only saying yes to the reconciliation package, which, imo, means they use the Slaughter rule. Even it it gets sent back to the Senate with the understanding it doesn't become law until the reconciliation package is passed, it will still meet a lot of opposition. Hatch has already said that the Senate will add an unlimited number of amendments to it and do whatever they can procedurally. This is a long way from being over, but if it fails, this could be the end. This is what I am praying for.
More than likely you'd be forced to purchase.
sorry for the spelling in a rush on way out the door
Sorry didn't say GOOD MORNING C4P!
Here is the link to the Good Ol' Boys page.
Let them know how you feel about their video without Gov. Palin or maybe it's a good thing they lefted her out. You can leave them a message and let them know how you feel about Romneycare. You decide.
I lefted a message about Where is Romney, Romneycare, McCain, and Graham and didn't mention Gov. Palin.
Scroll down for the message block.
http://www.rga.org/homepage/
Mark Levin : CONTACT THESE 13 MEMBERS FAST & DON'T GIVE UP! (Ladies,, what ru wearin?)
http://www.marklevinshow.com/Article.asp?id=1733252&spid=32364
I lefted a message about Where is Romney, Romneycare, McCain, and Graham and didn't mention Gov. Palin.
Good Morning, C4P and Guests!
Health Care Takeover, by the numbers, it ain't pretty
such as
<span>$569.2 billion: Tax increases in the legislation, including $48.9 billion in new tax increases in the reconciliation bill alone.</span>
and
<span>12: The number of new tax increases in the bill that violate President Obama's pledge that, "Under my plan, no family making less than $250,000 a year will see any form of tax increase."</span>
Mitt Romney will be on Monica Crowley's program shortly.
Go to www.monicamemo.com
Gov. Palin knows how to pick the good and bright ones. Since Gov. Palin put his name out there on the Chris Wallace show the man has been all over the TV.
"under my plan, no family making less than $250,000 per year, will see ANY form of tax increase"
This morning I have spent alot of time in prayer and there are a few things that keep me optimistic:
1) I put my trust in God, not government.
2) No matter how many of my freedoms they try to take away, my true freedom comes from Christ.
3) I am still the mom of the two most beautiful girls in the world.
4) This fight isn't over yet, even if it does pass, there is still a bunch of obstacles that stand in the way.
5) The battle may be lost, but the war is not over.
BTW, I am not convinced the battle is lost yet.
What rock did Monica find him hiding under?
thanks for the link- just left a message as well. if palin decides not to run or she just can't win the primaries that is one thing but if the establishment thinks they can railroad her out of the contest then i think alot of palin supporters will just sit 2012 out.
My letter...was...ummmm...very scathing...I used some research polls and whatnot...to show that Americans do not want this.
SH-ZAM! Bye bye Dems!
Payback sucks. :)
Monica said that years ago she predicted Mitt would be the GOP nominee-says she got it wrong in 2008 but may be right in 2012.
I wonder what camp she is in.
Thank you!
Latest AOSHQ Whip count:
So Pelosi has 202. She needs 14. There are 15 maybes left.
Reminder: it will get closer before this is over. Change your pants and tighten up those sphincters. She'll be closer than 210 before this is over. Doesn't matter if she doesn't get the 216th vote.
FDL has the Whip count at 204-206, 11 undecided, 10 Stupak bloc.
Via NRO:
Pelosi: <span>'No Separate Votes'</span>
Pelosi says there will be no separate votes on abortion, and that she will have votes for passage when she comes to the floor.
UPDATE: Reps. Driehaus (D., Ohio) and Dahlkemper (D., Penn.), two Stu-Packers, just went into Pelosi's office. Of the meeting, Dahlkemper says "we're still working on it."
Mitt equates "American exceptionalism" to freedom for the rest of the world.
I always thought of American exceptionalism as more the free expression of a free people to create a thriving, dynamic economy that benefits the American people by making them more prosperous and more happy as they strive to achieve their goals. And part and parcel of that exceptionalism was that America was founded under God and under the principle of the natural rights of man to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.
I have never thought of American exceptionalism as "foreign-centered" in telling foreign people what to do or how to live their lives but as an example of what a nation could acheive if it took a certain course of action and that if anyone in the world wanted to participate in American exceptionalism then they are more than welcome to do so by legally immigrating to America.
Monica: "If you are elected POTUS will you repeal Obamacare?"
Romney: (paraphrased): "I think the people will call for it; the legislators will call for it I think. But we'll have to see what Obamacare contains; it's such a morass. I think there will be a movement in that direction."
Romney never answered the question focusing on what others would do that may prompt a repeal. Absolute crap answer. All Mitt had to say was: "I favor the repeal of Obamacare if it passes, no ifs, ands, or buts."
If you missed the interview with Mitt Romney you can go to the WABC web site and listen to it there around 1:30 EST. Monica's show comes on an hour later on WABC, starting at 1 PM EST.
Here's the message I left:
"It's too bad Governor Palin promoted you last year and asked her supporters to donate to you. Your new video is horrible in the extreme to snub her. What in the world has Romney done to fight healthcare? Romney care is the test program for Obamacare, for crying out loud! And Graham is busy pushing amnesty under cover of the health care issue. He and you are shameful. You underestimate Sarah's supporters and our absolute disdain of the good ol' boys club politics as usual that this video embodies."
Cable companies.
Mitt is just trying to appeal to that David Frum mushy middle. The man has no guts whatsoever.
<span>Why would he repeal it? Unlike Sarah, he didn't fight against it's passage.</span>
This is like watching a football game where you are rooting for the refs!
You will lose it.
It is not approved.
It is not government run.
And actually, I think medi-share really IS insurance as in, you pay as you go, but if a catastrophe happens the group helps you pay for it. That's what insurance is!!!
<span><span>From <span>Politico</span>:
Rep. Dan Lipinski (D-Ill.), though, said Stupak’s group is holding firm.
He said that to support the legislation he needs an ironclad guarantee that Stupak’s language will be resurrected and enforced — whether the vehicle is legislation or executive action.
Executive orders are worthless, especially with Obama, don't be played a fool!</span></span>
Update 2 from NRO:
Rep. Diana Degette (D., Co.) confirms to NRO that there will be no second vote on abortion language.
From <span>The Hill</span>: Stupak still commands more than seven votes against the bill, said Rep. Dan Lipinksi (D-Ill.).
"They're still short on votes," said Lipinski, a Stupak confederate. "There's still time and they still need votes."
Good afternoon all,
Instapundit has some photos up of the D.C. protest. Preliminary crowd estimate is around 25k, with people still arriving.
As to the vote count, Fox says Pelosi has the votes. However, progressive blogs like Firedoglake say that she does not. None of the other major media outlets are calling it. The New York Times is reporting that Pelosi is having to scamble to find the votes.
Bottom line: Keep calling, emailing, marching and praying.
No update on GDTP poll today, per their web site.
I wonder why.
Here's what I wrote:
'It's too bad Governor Palin promoted you last year and asked her supporters to donate to you. Your new video is horrible in the extreme to snub her. What in the world has Romney done to fight healthcare? Romney care is the test program for Obamacare, for crying out loud! And Graham is busy pushing amnesty under cover of the health care issue. He and you are shameful. You underestimate Sarah's supporters and our absolute disdain of the good ol' boys club politics as usual that this video embodies."
Sad to here; Monica usually defends Sarah so well on BOR. What in the world got into her? Wonder if BOR did, since he claimed in Tulsa last week that Sarah would not be the 2012 nominee ...
here = hear
Oh yes, Byron York has a report up titled Rules Committee meeting descends into chaos.
hrh, yes, but in the rules of the plan, it's not considered insurance. We're supposed to tell the doctors and such "it's not insurance", as the plan (like-minded individuals) determine what is paid and not paid, not the Insurance Commissioner.
It's another big brother step, and btw, I really like it. It's for disease and accidents, not well-care.
And the game is between two teams you can't stand, but you hope the right team wins, only because it helps your team.
What I think what overlooked in the analysis of the Palin interview with Greta last night in expressing her outrage regarding Obamacare was how savvy a political "animal" Sarah Palin is, that she fully understands the dynamics behind the raw, insufferable political corruption perpetrated by Obama and his merry men and women and the lengths they will go to get Obamacare passed and that she therefore approaches the vote tomorrow with realistic expectations and not pie-in-the-sky unqualified assertions that Obamacare will not pass.
I just went there, and don't see the video in question. There is now a video called 2010 and Beyond, which just features various current republican governors, Pawlenty, Barbour etc., no sign of McCain, Romney or Graham. Maybe the RGA got the message, and replaced it with this new video.
I really think Pelosi needs more than 216 votes, more like 219. I can't see her taking a vote with only 216 confirmed 'yes' votes - it would only take one House Dem to change their mind during the vote and kill the bill. Seems risky to me.
I think Waxman knows that the reconcilation bill could get killed in the Senate and/or that there is likely to be a second vote in the House (as the Senate has been warning) in a few weeks which could fail and kill the whole thing. Voting to pass the Senate bill first is their best chance for victory, but too many of the House Dems won't go for it. Chaos, indeed!
it's kind of fitting the vote is going to be on Sunday - one way or the other.
Prayer works, pray into the night.
I thought her comments regarding republican members of congress was great. It put them on notice that sitting quietly is not going to be tolerated any longer. My suspection is that many republicans are quietly hoping that 0bamaCare passes. Many of them are nanny statists, that much control over the lives of every day Americans is pretty heady stuff.
Is there a way to recall your congressman? I live in Ellsworth's district (the traitor). I know he's running for Bahys seat, but I wish we could publicly shame these people by recalling them now.
About 30,000 reported at the 'Kill the Bill' rally in DC!
http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/2010/03/20/kill-the-bill-rally-in-washington/
Alcee Hastings (D, Fla): Rules? Who cares about stinkin rules?
Via Daniel Foster at NRO:
Yes, Democratic Rep. Alcee Hastings (Fla.) just said this in the most powerful committee of the United States House of Representatives. The people's house:
<span><span>"There ain't no rules here, we're trying to accomplish something. . . .All this talk about rules. . . .When the deal goes down . . . we make 'em up as we go along."</span></span>
<span><span>Welcome to the <span>Bananna</span> <span>Republic</span> </span></span>
I agree
The message I left trashed Romneycare and the good old boys. The video is posed at HA.
Code Red says it now stands at:
Yes: 207 votes
No: 209 votes
Undecided: 15 votes
Here are undecided according to Code Red:
1) Baird (WA-03)
2) Berry (AR-01)
3) Carney (PA-10)
4) Connolly (Va-11)
5) Dahlkemper (PA-03)
6) Davis (TN-04)
7) Kanjorski (PA-11)
8) Matheson (NY-13)
9) McMahon (NY-13)
10) Nye (VA-02)
11) Pomeroy (ND-AL)
12) Schrader (OR-05)
13) Space (OH-18)
Thanks BeanCounter. You are simply the best! God Bless
I read somewhere that Davis (TN-04) is a NO.
I can not get thru to the capital lines, IMO I think that Sarah is saying to the Rep party, we need some fire and brimstone anger at this bill, this affects my family, and they are acting like "oh well" really makes me mad, emailed the RNC, NRSC to tell them this has got to stop, I am tired of the R party "playing dead" on major issues, I need to see wrath in their eyes, and they have got to show it NOW!
Sarah 2012!!! Kill the bill!!!!
Firedoglake has Davis (TN-04) down as a NO on their Whip count.
A judge gave NJ the go ahead to recall a Senator.
They don't want to bring out BO's worst numbers of his presidency on the eve of the health care vote.
It would kill momentum because people would know it's because of health care. The House Dems would turn against it when they see how it's hurting BO.
Yes, I truly believe this. Gallup is not an unbiased org.
Firedoglake:
My running count shows 201 yes, but I’m adding Rahall and Carney to the Stupak-curious bloc and making them lean no votes. So it’s 201-209, but with leaners? 207-214. If a Stupak deal is struck, passage looks secure, unless the Pro-Choice caucus revolts. If not, Pelosi will have to draw an inside straight. It’s very tight right now.
UPDATE: If you look hard at the numbers, you can see why Pelosi is talking with Stupak and pro-choice women. With 214 No or lean No votes (including the Stupak bloc), Pelosi would have to prevent Dahlkemper and Kaptur from joining them. Then she would need all the other uncommitted votes, save one. That means she would have to get everyone who voted yes last time, plus Jim Matheson or Harry Teague (and all the lean Yes votes who went No last time, like Brian Baird and John Tanner). <span>It’s just not that plausible.</span>
Paul Ryan needs to be President after Palin.
Bachmann and Ryan rock!
Oh to have each of them cloned, and have hundreds of Ryans and Bachmanns running around Capitol Hill.
And in today's WSJ, the latest Repub being pushed forward even in the headline and lede graphs, John Thune, is featured in the Interview with John Fund.
Wonder if Sarah knew about this last night, and so made mention of those Repubs who aren't speaking up. Thune hasn't said much of anything that I've heard.
And I was disappointed in Fund's regular references to Thune's good looks, his being 6' 4" and taking long strides to the Senate chambers. Not quite creased pants territory but kinda' uncomfortable.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703580904575131451603332046.html?mod=WSJ_hpp_sections_opinion
I think #8 Matheson is from Utah. This is the guy whose brother just got a federal judgeship. What's interesting about his situation is that Utah just approved legislation saying they will oppose ObamaCare being shoved down their throats. So does Matheson vote against his state legislature?
I want to thank Nancy for suggesting the idea of fasting these last couple of days, and tomorrow. It was inspired. Thanks for all those participating, including those who are not able to fast, but are doing so in spirit. What a remarkable group of people there is in this community.
I wanted to just share some thoughts that have been on my mind lately, and especially today. I hope you don't mind if I go a bit religious here :)
Peter is one of my favorite people in the New Testament. He just seems so genuine and real to me. One of his experiences that has been on my mind was his response to Christ walking on the water toward their ship, which was in the middle of a storm. When Peter recognized it was the Savior he asked if he too might walk on the water, and the Savior bid him come. Miraculously Peter was able to walk on the water as he kept his focus on Christ. But, when his focus changed to the storm he started to sink. Of course Christ lifted him up again and gave him some instructions on faith. But, I'm touched by the importance of keeping our focus on Him, the Savior. Yes, we must be aware of the storm. We know it is there, trials, storms, tempests abound, physically, mentally, socially and spiritually. But, when our main focus is on God we are able to not just make it through, but to do so with grace and with miracles.
At this time of great turbulence and storm it is as important as ever to make sure our focus is in the right place. When our view is fixed on the eternal than the temporal, earthly stuff has a way of putting itself into perspective.
I don't know how this whole healthcare debacle will turn out. I'm still hoping for the best, but I'll praise God no matter what. It is crucial for our nation to right its course, and the most crucial step of all may be to turn back to our Creator. Storms will come, we may even sink a little. But, He is there, always there, waiting to help the seekers.
God bless you all. thanks for your examples and your faith. Yours in prayer and faith,
Sarah Emily Jordan
I wonder about him.
I read that Zsch Space is a NO too
From Ace of Spades:
Washington Post reporting Demon Pass dropped.
Susan
Thanks... left a thing or two for them to think about also... their not only RINO'S, their Neanderthals!
Yes and yes!
Your middle name is Emily?!?!?!?!?
The Hill is reporting Rep Dennis Cardoza (D-Calif) appeared to switch positions on healthcare on Saturday, saying he's vote against a rule that deems the Senate bill as passed.
But does that means that NO means NO?
<span>From Sapwolf:</span>
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</p><p><span>To my friends at HotAir, I just wanted to let you know that I've been restricted from posting comments at HotAir. I'm not sure why I have been prevented from commenting or if this has anything to do with HotAir's new management or if it has anything to do with the recent events in DC regarding the ramming through of Romneycare, oops I meant Obamacare. :-)</span>
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</p><p><span>Anyway, I just want everybody to know that I enjoyed my time here. I love how it can be so fun and 'hot'. Maybe HotAir won't be so Hot anymore under new mgt. Thanks to fellow Catholic Ed and to AP, yes even AP, despite his Eyeorish and moderate ways chur ning out stories and commentary so I don't have to get it from the hard on the eyes Drudge site.</span></p>
This is a verse that I have been using as my hope to the future (KJV) Jeremiah 29:11-12
For I know the thoughts that I think towards you, saith the Lord, thoughts of peace, and not of evil (OBAMACARE) to give you an expected end. verse 12 Then shall ye call upon me, and ye shall go and pray unto me, and I will heaken unto you.
This is my hope that if we all pray that we will have an END to this bill.
Thank you
Sarah 2012!
continue....
<p><span>There have been so many characters on HA over the two + years I've blogged here but some names have to be mentioned: Concern troll extraordinaire AnninCA, Pooptech and his posting of Mitt's resume (a million times), the canuck Drywall in all his misery showing us what we hope not to be, and it goes on and on.</span>
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<span>Most of you know that I am a strong supporter of Governor Sarah Palin and believe she would be a great President of the United States. You can count on that to continue as the Cuda's Crusade continues to grow and the real Sarah, the common-sense conservative and child of Reagan, continues to win the hearts and minds of the fellow Americans she so loves and holds dear in her heart. There will be a day in the future when you hear: "Sarah no longer needs weirding module." That day may be fast approaching, but I hope she never retires her 'original' palm pilot.
Those of you who are pulling for others in the GOP Primary need to ask yourselves "Am I a conservative?" </span><span>Go here to find out.</span><span> Is my candidate conservative? Will they have the courage to confront the federal beast and tame it. It is not enough to win the election. You MUST win with someone who will STOP the growth of government and begin the long process of trimming it back to its Constitutional limits or at least smaller than it is now. It is not enough to vote. That's coasting and that's how we got in this mess in the first place. Can you give money till it hurts? Can you give time and your feet on the ground? The enemy does and that is why they can entertain such abominations as the Slaughter rule and the use of Reconciliation for taking over 1/6th of the US economy.
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<span>Sarah is our happy warrior and will fight like no other and with courage, optimism, love for country, a twinkle in her eye and a selflessness that reminds me of the words 'And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes and our sacred Honor."
On May 4th I will be on the ballot in my voter precinct as a GOP Precinct Executive. I am unchallenged, but I almost wish to be challenged so that I would have to burn all the blood, sweat and tears.... . The few I talked to to get my signatures to be on the ballot were ALL wonderful people and I look forward to leading the effort to swing back another 100 votes the GOP way this November and for those initiatives to slap down a growing state government. Hmmmm...what's the new nickname for Ohio?......New Jersey? Not on my watch.
I leave you with a quote from the greatest writer of the 20th Century, Gilbert Keith Chesterton, a man who I would have loved to meet, exchanged my Kimber 1911 SIS Ultra 45 for his Derringer, a pistol he bought on the way to his wedding because he liked the idea of being able to defend his wife with it, and gone out shooting with him.
The whole modern world has divided itself into Conservatives and Progressives. The business of Progressives is to go on making mistakes. The business of Conservatives is to prevent mistakes from being corrected. Even when the revolutionist might himself repent of his revolution, the traditionalist is already defending it as part of his tradition. Thus we have two great types--the advanced person who rushes us into ruin, and the retrospective person who admires the ruins. He admires them especially by moonlight, not to say moonshine. Each new blunder of the progressive or prig becomes instantly a legend of immemorial antiquity for the snob. This is called the balance, or mutual check, in our Constitution.</span>
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</p><p><span>An Evening in Barad Morlas</span></p>
Yep! Blessed to share a common name with you :)
Awesome wide-angle photo from the 'Kill the Bill' rally in DC!
http://michellemalkin.com/2010/03/20/day-of-defiance-nationwide-protests-as-slaughter-house-rushes-through-demcare/
Anthony Weiner must be pulling his hair out!
A poster at FR says there may be a link between Cardoza and the Dems getting rid of Demon Pass.
Palin/Ryan 2012! Gov. Palin has referenced his Roadmap plan for fixing our entitlement programs a number of times.
Looks like any vote they take tomorrow is gonna be close. Keep up the pressure.
Bill
What about the plan congress will have?... they will surely have a better one won't they? I haven't heard much about theirs.
NJC
Nice!
Deem and Pass being dead is a good thing, even though some are saying it is bad because it would have definitely come under constitutionality issues. This bill STILL has constitutionality issues, mandating health insurance. The only way I can see this being upheld on constitutionality is by somehow equating it with the draft. To force us to buy insurance is NOT constitutional. The federal government has no right to make us purchase a commodity in order to be a citizen of good standing, in other words not having to pay any sort of fine.
This bill still has a ways to go. KEEP THE PRESSURE ON AND ABOVE ALL: PRAY!!!!
I swear, I feel like I'm in occupied France. Bachmann and Ryan are leaders of the Resistance, fighting like hell in Paris and Sarah's like the American Army that everyone knows is coming to liberate us. Everytime I hear her--especially when she's speaking from Wasilla HQ --it's like a communique received over the BBC.
Vive la Sarah! Vive le Wasilla! Vive la You Betcha!
<span>Tweets w/in the hour from our Fearless Leader: </span>
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<span>"Remember Joe-Plumber & Tito the Builder in'08 campaign? Tito said today:"I did not come 2 America for dependency,I came 2 America for liberty!"</span>
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<span><span>"Pix of rally in DC look great,wish I were there! Patriots who r:Keep the faith! Keep up the good fight to "Kill the Bill" & take our country back."</span> </span>
Repubs just have to say on TV, internet, "wish the dem party would have this much energy to see people back to work with jobs, rather than lose their homes, not pay their bills, its JOBS stupid!!!!!!!!!
Sarah 2012 Kill the bloody bill!!!!!! Every Dem that is a yes vote, will have blood on their hands due to abortion language!~
Another communique! Twitter Free America!
Well...Emily's aren't known to be prim and proper...they're fiesty...and know what they want. On the other hand...Sarah...nice. :)
I need Mark Levin to sit down right in front of me and talk to me like I am a 3 year old, to explain what Pelosi dropping deem and pass means, exactly what tomorrow's 3 different votes means, and what I should be praying for.
Mark,
That's a great analogy. I still think that Rep. Paul Ryan is gonna be the next GOP's Budget Director. He would shine in that role and articlulate how we can survive this financial nightmare and stay solvent.
"Thy will be done" always works! :)
If the Dems give up on Deem and Pass, maybe they will take a straight up vote on the Senate version. The problem is that they don't have enough votes for the Senate version yet.
manajordan
So like Sarah your thoughts and words are... keep our eyes on our creator! I've posted this before...
..."Everything in our lives is Grounded in a simple truth: That we put our lives in our creators hand... Knowing that following his path ultimately will lead to our fulfillment and happiness." SP
Kinda says it all, just like you did.
I did see the other day you had a birthday and posted late there, but wanted again to say after these words of yours... A simple birthday wish for you seems small compared to what you you just gave us in the way of a Blessing. Thanks for sharing.
You know what I think it means?--and I may be very wrong here--they know deem and pass is too blatantly unconsititutional to get away with, so it HAS to be an up or down vote or nothing. I wouldn't buy into the "They know they have the votes"crap that's being spread around, for the millionth time to demoralize us. If they had the votes, they'd be <span>voting</span>. They wouldn't need the "Pep Talk" that O's about to give.
As soon as they have the votes, you'll see Pelosi beating them with a whip into the chamber, even if it's 3:00 in the morning. Just watch for that. You'll get no truth from the media, even Fox.
"Thy will be done" works for me too though.
Obama to speak on capitol hill, well who gives a flying fig!!! I am not turning on the tv as I like my tv too much.
Kill the Bill!!!
Sarah 2012!
I'm taking O's "pep talk" as a good sign. The last place he'd be would be in front of the cameras today if they had the votes. Just my opinion--but we're makin em pay a price! Win or lose, Obama's finished (which is what I've been saying to the congressmen I've called today btw). Why hitch your wagon to a corpse--as in Navy.
<p><span>A new cartoon on the corruption behind the healthcare vote at </span><span>http://drawfortruth.wordpress.com/category/corruption/</span></p>
... and hopefully they never will!
And officially the Vichy French (RINO's in Congress) are the only thing the enemy from completely overrunning the local populace. But in reality it was the resistance leaders like Palin, Bachmann, Ryan, Pence and others who have allowed our side to rally to at least to throw a monkey wrench into Obama's plans.
St. Mary's (#10) defeats Villanova (#2) . . .
ConservativeDukie only one in C4P bracket contest to pick St. Mary's . . . but he also picked Georgetown to go to the Final Four . . .oops<span> </span>
Awesome, Jane.....
;-)
Dispense with the charade and just send TOTUS alone to Capitol Hill.
From Robert Stacy McCain:
3:11 PM EST:
"Now hearing that "deem and pass" is dead, and a DC source tells me that pro-lifers aren't buying the executive order pitch, rumors of which had been heard earlier this week. However, the fact that leadership is even talking about a far-fetched maneuver means that Pelosi still doesn't have enough votes to pass the bill."
Obama is riding into the room on a white horse!
And he brought a pony that he had promised Kucinich for his vote. How sweet!
Sarc Sistas...
Current song on my iPod touch:
Tea Party by Kerli
Great song, but the chorus is the real thing.
My God! Romney's surfaced! He picked one of the most obscure radio shows on a Saturday afternoon to do it. What a warrior!
He's speaking now. Don't know how much longer I can stay awake...
O on the Tube and Mitten on the radio! I'm in Hell.
Well, I would hope they wouldn't go for the executive order nonsense. Some of these Dems do have brains and Obama's lack of credibility is coming back to bite him!
Does anybody have the phone numbers to call?
It's a freak show up there!
Reid/Pelosi/Obama
Since this is an open thread. I'd figure I would treat you all to the wise (and now famous words) of Mr. Daniel Hannan when he lit up PM Gordon Brown months ago.
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<p>Prime Minister, I see you’ve already mastered the essential craft of the European politician, namely the ability to say one thing in this chamber and a very different thing to your home electorate. You’ve spoken here about free trade, and amen to that. Who would have guessed, listening to you just now, that you were the author of the phrase ‘British jobs for British workers’ and that you have subsidised, where you have not nationalised outright, swathes of our economy, including the car industry and many of the banks? Perhaps you would have more moral authority in this house if your actions matched your words? Perhaps you would have more legitimacy in the councils of the world if the United Kingdom were not going into this recession in the worst condition of any G20 country?
<p>The truth, Prime Minister, is that you have run out of our money. The country as a whole is now in negative equity. Every British child is born owing around £20,000. Servicing the interest on that debt is going to cost more than educating the child. Now, once again today you try to spread the blame around; you spoke about an international recession, international crisis. Well, it is true that we are all sailing together into the squalls. But not every vessel in the convoy is in the same dilapidated condition. Other ships used the good years to caulk their hulls and clear their rigging; in other words – to pay off debt. But you used the good years to raise borrowing yet further. As a consequence, under your captaincy, our hull is pressed deep into the water line under the accumulated weight of your debt We are now running a deficit that touches 10% of GDP, an almost unbelievable figure. More than Pakistan, more than Hungary; countries where the IMF have already been called in. Now, it’s not that you’re not apologising; like everyone else I have long accepted that you’re pathologically incapable of accepting responsibility for these things. It’s that you’re carrying on, wilfully worsening our situation, wantonly spending what little we have left. Last year - in the last twelve months – a hundred thousand private sector jobs have been lost and yet you created thirty thousand public sector jobs.
</p><p>Prime Minister, you cannot carry on for ever squeezing the productive bit of the economy in order to fund an unprecedented engorgement of the unproductive bit. You cannot spend your way out of recession or borrow your way out of debt. And when you repeat, in that wooden and perfunctory way, that our situation is better than others, that we’re ‘well-placed to weather the storm’, I have to tell you that you sound like a Brezhnev-era apparatchik giving the party line. You know, and we know, and you know that we know that it’s nonsense! Everyone knows that Britain is worse off than any other country as we go into these hard times. The IMF has said so; the European Commission has said so; the markets have said so – which is why our currency has devalued by thirty percent. And soon the voters too will get their chance to say so. They can see what the markets have already seen: that you are the devalued Prime Minister of a devalued government.</p>
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</p><p>I'm just waiting to see which member of congress will have the guts to say that to President Obama.
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I am praying Chicago-Olympics/Copenhagen kiss of death.
Romney just said that O might have the clout to pull this off. Now, even if you believe that, a leader NEVER says that in the middle of a battle! This guy can never lead this nation.
Now he's trying to defend MittenCare (lol).
Jean, go to Levin's website. He's got them listed. I'm about to call Carney in PA.
These people are incredible.......not in a good way.
Reid just said we are fouling them, and fouling them, trying to stop them.
Anderson Cooper is scratching his head.
That means they don't have the votes.
Fight on!
This should be good Obama is going to attempt to talk without TOTUS.
Wonder if he'll have a Sycasuse moment?
My TV is off. I can't watch this liar anymore. I wish Sarah was President.
"We are fouling them" - that means the Tea Party Patriots are on offense and the Obama-Reid-Pelosi team is on the defense! Perhaps we just need to hold on to the ball, get enough first downs and run out the clock next week! Why do I get the feeling there will not be a vote tomorrow.
Bush's fault-15 seconds in.
He is so full of it. Lots of it.
<span>I guess we can't "Deem" her as President any more either. Oh well, we'll do it in November 2012 the good old fashioned way.</span>
He doesn't have the votyes and I think he might sense things turning against him. He never DREAMED it'd be this tough! He's in his Martyr mode. For once in his life, the last place he wants to be right now is in front of the cameras.
Fight!
Thanks so much.
I hope they don't go for the executive order crap either because Obama was the most liberal member of the Senate on the abortion issue. (remember in Illinois, he voted to deny care to bablies that had survived an abortion)
Sarah tweets:
<span>Shocking new questions re:whether military healthcare plans r protected under Obamacare.How will underpaid troops afford their own purchase?</span>
also
<span>Take a look here for more on this:http://tinyurl.com/yhduo9d</span>
questions on whether military health care plans would even qualify
Nobody's pulling the plug on granny.
This bill runs straight down the center of American political something.
This is a middle of the road bill.
By ears hurt from all of his lying.
Obama live on foxstream now, talking to Dems, exhorting them.
I cannot believe they are following this guy off the cliff.
He is so arrogant, condescending, dictatorial, unfriendly, de-motivating.
and he drops his 'gs all the time . . .
By-my
A patient's bill of rights on steroids??
I thought steroids were bad.
And he is a liar.
mana
You are right on target. Thank you for your beautiful words...
I appreciate you mana...
http://www.marklevinshow.com/Article.asp?id=1733252&spid=32364
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